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Greeks Celebrate IMF/ECB Bailout By Blowing Up Athens HSBC Branch

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Zero Hedge will not report on any of today's so-called Greece bailout news, because a) this is not news and b) Greece will still go bankrupt. According to latest polls, 53% of Germans oppose the bailout, with just 39% approving it. Guess what - same thing in Greece: per Reuters, "Opinion polls show the public opposes the
measures and more than half of those asked in a recent survey said they
would join protests against them." In other news, Greece has just expressed its appreciation of bankers and the European Commission, who as of noon today run the country, by blowing up an Athens HSBC branch.

From Reuters:

A bomb exploded at a branch of HSBC bank in Athens on Sunday, damaging the entrance but causing no injuries, police said.

"It appears a home-made bomb comprised of gas canisters and fuel caused small damage to the bank's facade," a police official said.

Gas canister bomb attacks are common in Athens and are usually staged by leftist and anarchist groups against business and political targets.

Sunday's bombing against the U.K.-based banking group was the first since the Socialist government announced tough new austerity measures in exchange for international aid to cope with a debt crisis.

With Greek retirement age just raised from 53 to something like infinity +1, something tells us all foreign bank deposit branches are about to vamoose out of the bankrupt country.


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Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:31 | Link to Comment aldousd
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Infinity +1. Funny.

Tue, 05/04/2010 - 01:37 | Link to Comment Adam Neira
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HSBC are one of the best run and most ethical of all the international banks. The senior managers are of the highest quality. There are far worse banking institutions to pick on. These bombers are a few olives short of a Greek Salad, so such behaviour is to be expected.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:36 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Gas cannisters and fuel, huh?  Isn't that convenient.  That certainly would seem to head off any speculation that the NYC "bombing attempt" was something other.  Maybe it's the same guys and they took a plane to Greece...

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:47 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Yep, it's got all the hallmarks of the Taliban.  Those dirty diaper-headed bastards!  We need to go into Pakistan and wipe those ragheads off the face of the earth, salt the land, then turn it into glass with a nuke.  Send that missile right up the ass of...whoever the fuck is the new evil leader we're supposed to hate.  I don't care who it is, I just like to see shit get blowed the fuck up!


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Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:52 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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And right on cue:

"According to The Long War Journal, Qari Hussain Meh, a member of the Pakistani Taliban is behind the scare."

OH! YEAH!  Let's get this mother fucking war ON!!

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:59 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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BTW, "The Long War Journal" ("long war" = "war on terror" after some lipsuction and botox) is made up of a bunch of neocons and neocon-lite douchebags.  Exactly the kind of useful idiots you'd call upon to start the propaganda campaign for expanding the war into Pakistan to eradicate the evil Taliban terrorists.


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Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:31 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:09 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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<cough> <cough> ZIONISTS <cough> <cough>


Had some phlegm in my throat there.

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Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:50 | Link to Comment Internet Tough Guy
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Put your white sheet on.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:38 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Yes, we know you're with the douchebags.  Noted.

Now get lost.

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Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:48 | Link to Comment tmosley
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I put on my robe and grand wizard hat.

Also, Israel has more mass murderers per capita than any other nation.  *HINT* most of them are Jewish.  Not that that matters.  Except when they form a nation based entirely on the concept of ethnic cleansing.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:56 | Link to Comment Internet Tough Guy
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Grand wizard? I think you are grade inflating. You seem more like the pointy-headed foot soldier.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 18:00 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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DUDE, I just plotted a road map from a false-flag bombing operation to those in league with the perps, and you pull the Jew-bashing card?

What a complete and utter tool you are.

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Sun, 05/02/2010 - 18:05 | Link to Comment Internet Tough Guy
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Dude, you are a racist fool, just accept it. The fact that you see jews with bombs behind every tree, without the slightest evidence, tells us who you are. Think you hurt my feelings by calling me names? I'll wear it like a badge of honor but you have to be a miserable racist your whole life.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 22:20 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Now you're projecting.  You want to talk about boogeymen?  Ask an entire nation that suffers from PTSD and imprisons the indigenous population they uprooted in ghettos to secure their own safety.  Too bad for them, retribution is inevitable.

By the way, my thesis is validated:

You're a braying jack-ass.

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Sun, 05/02/2010 - 20:50 | Link to Comment Seer
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You're spot-on Chewy!

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:05 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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This is all so predictable, and we have in fact predicted it here, haven't we?

Edit:  The gold and oil markets are going to be interesting this week.  Bailouts to infinity and oil wars; what a surprise!

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:04 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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 Chumba, you are correct as always.After serious reflection and meditation the answer came to my mind clearly.We must NUKE Greece...and everywhere else for that matter.Those damned reprobates deserve it.Their despicable culture and architecture sicken me and all good Americans.If they don't acknowledge the supremacy of the Big Mac and Disney they need to be killed.


 And steal their gold.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:09 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Definitely steal their gold.

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Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:29 | Link to Comment Gussiefink-nottle
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What gold?

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:11 | Link to Comment David449420
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OH, this is getting way beyond surreal.  Zero Hedge.  And the hits just keep on coming.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:10 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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I'm just a little surprised they didn't roll out Bin Laden's look alike double and whip us some new video assuming blame that is quickly confirmed as real by an unnamed "security big shit" as being as authentic as apple pie, Chevrolet and Grandma Taibbi.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:18 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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It's too early yet CD.  Too soon after the fact and there would be some suspicion.  Credibility is vital to the conspiracy.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:26 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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You're right of course.

But after you've seen the cult classic movie a couple dozen times and know the entire dialogue by heart, sometimes you can't help but shout out the lines before they're actually spoken. :>)

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:29 | Link to Comment Amsterdammer
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Spot on, tomorrow we will get another

Obama Bin Laden video on CNBC, shot somewhere

in a part of Pakistan that has not yet been

droned out, claiming responsibility for the

car, the sabotaging of the oil platform.

The warheads have come to the conclusion

that they cannot nuke Iran right now, but

the shipping of all this nuclear warheads to

the Diego Garcia basis will promptly enabling

the nuclear attack on those bloody Pakis

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 19:24 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Speaking of twofers,

Oil rig explosion result of North Korean sabatoge.

Let the disinformation campaign begin.

(will need to scroll down for the latest conspiracy theory.)

Let WWW III begin!

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 21:01 | Link to Comment Seer
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NYC’s Kelly Says No Evidence Mossad Taliban Behind Incident

Gosh, it was just a simple guffaw!

This is how the game is played.  Subtle propaganda programming.  al Qaeda isn't the enemy anymore (the bin Laden story has run past its shelf life), now the focus is on the Taliban, those evil-doers who just never did accept the oil pipeline contract prsented to them (despite threats to do so else they'd be bombed back to the stone age- funny, even being stone-agers they're still able to repel our empire's army!).  Destination (as some have suggested), Pakistan (actually, it's Cashmere).  The work of Edward Bernays carries forward...

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:51 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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it was Dick Fuld in a turbin

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 18:26 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"it was Dick Fuld in a turbin"

with the candlestick.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 22:14 | Link to Comment Artful Dodger
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Ha. Funny on two levels.

Mon, 05/03/2010 - 11:20 | Link to Comment Marvin_M
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oh Dear! Ms Napolitano's face says random check points and anal probes ...I must remember to freshen up after every bowel movement...yes, note to self...

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:36 | Link to Comment ZackAttack
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Emmanuel Goldstein is the true enemy.

Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:51 | Link to Comment Fazzie
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" Team America!.. FUCK YEAH!!!"

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:09 | Link to Comment BlackBeard
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Amateurs.  They need to learn how to soak fertilizer with gasoline first....

Mon, 05/03/2010 - 00:42 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Half heavy fuel oil, half gasoline, a great high speed detonator and sufficient compression.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:36 | Link to Comment whatsinaname
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Now shrimpers / oyster farmers foreclosing and handing over boats from Louisiana Bayou to Florida panhandle ?

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:35 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Why stop at the panhandle?  I heard-say speculation today that the amount of oil being shat out into the gulf might be on the order of 25,000-50,000 barrels per day.  If that's the case and they don't put a cork in it soon, say bye-bye to the east coast, Greenland, and possibly most of northern Eurpope as well.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:59 | Link to Comment Fazzie
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 So hypothetically speaking, A "peak oil" fanatic could be enjoying the day swimming at the beach and get covered in oil from one accidentally unplugged well, out of tens of thousads, a continent away?


 Too funny.


  I know, I know it only underscores their case since all that precious resource was just lost.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 21:03 | Link to Comment Seer
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Funnier yet would be a peak oil denier getting bitten by a shark while swimming, and find himself in an ambulance that's run out of fuel.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 21:37 | Link to Comment Fazzie
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  My scenario more likely and much funnier.


  Take all those tankers full of oil, line em up and you could walk to Saudi Arabia.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:14 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Those familiar with the Web Bots might recall reading that Clif High explained the Web Bot results can sometimes yield the correct coordinates of a future event but on the wrong side of the planet.

The Bushehr nuclear research reactor in Iran is at about the same latitude (very close in fact), and almost directly opposite the oil spill in terms of the globe (ok, it's off my about 30 degrees).  The Shape of Things to Come report mentioned that, as a result of the Israeli attack on Bushehr, the airstreams would be polluted with nuclear fallout that would carry through the atmosphere twice.  What if the correct interpretation was an oil spill in the gulf stream?

This is all just alarmist speculation, and random coincidence, but it is interesting.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:57 | Link to Comment A_MacLaren
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In a recent interview, , Clif attributed the bad airstreams with the volcanic activity in Iceland.

This weekend, George Ure in his subscriber update, indicated the oil spill meets more of the parameters of the "Blue Flue" from The Shape of Things to Come, when the methane aspects are discounted.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:39 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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Oh yes, the volcano.  Duh.  I haven't been keeping up with the Web Bots.  I already live in the mire of my own bad omens.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:26 | Link to Comment dcb
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by killing off all life forms you make the enviroment safe for drilling. since you no longer have to pay for costly environmental controls anymore (it's already dead) it's good for profits

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Bay Trader
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Looks like tomorrow will be a great opportunity to snatch up more puts on the FXE at great prices.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:41 | Link to Comment daz
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Germany could borrow some billions at their rate and give the money to Greece to help... Europe is Europe... There should not be spreads between Germany and Greece.... oh wait... LOL


Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:56 | Link to Comment Lndmvr
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Expect to see " national guard" on the streets this week. I personally am working on renting 10 acres in N Florida to store boats on so they don't get full of oil. I'm thinking BP stations will be burning soon. It will be a disaster.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:08 | Link to Comment geminiRX
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The 10 acre thing sounds like a good idea. I wouldn't bet the farm that BP stations will be burning anytime soon....nor national guard. The sheeple of America will bend over and accept their new reality......unfortunately

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:11 | Link to Comment sangell
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Hey you don't want to burn BP stations. Those are assets to be seized to pay claims. BP paying $1200/day for small fishing boats to help with cleanup. NOAA has closed Federal waters to fishing from the Mississippi to Pensacola so your oyster boat is now a VSCC or Very small crude carrier.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:48 | Link to Comment Double down
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My understanding is that some sort of promise has to be signed as a part of the contract.  Little suspicious about that. 

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:53 | Link to Comment knukles
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Promise as in Margarine?
Golly, I prefer Kentucky jelly myself.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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That's just too funny.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 14:58 | Link to Comment w a l k - a w a y
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ooooowwwwwwooooooo !

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:05 | Link to Comment kaiten
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My view about this Greek issue still is that Greece will eventually default and leave the eurozone anyway. I doubt greeks will withstand more than few months of austerity. Otherwise the needed reforms would have been done long ago. Greek economy operates on this borrow-default cycle for two centuries already and I cant see any fundamental changes in the structure of the economy.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:06 | Link to Comment st louie mo
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Now that brings back memories.  There used to be a little old widow down the street whose husband was killed years back by an explosion at an Athens Citibank office.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:06 | Link to Comment mchandler@ameri...'s picture

It's hard to believe the bombs in Greece and in NY are connected because the one in Greece - you know, uh, WORKED.

What idiot would claim to have anything to do with the one in New York? Would you advertise your total incompetence?

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:23 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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Who says it was designed to actually work?  The gov't can get the same bang for the buck (I know, bad pun) without actually destroying anything in the process.  Troops on the streets of New York, here we come.  We need them to be an everyday scene when TSHTF.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:24 | Link to Comment Mojo
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Why are they Bombing an english bank? May be they took the wrong turn going to Deutsche bank?

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:28 | Link to Comment john_connor
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Sounds like an explosive situation.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:30 | Link to Comment nicktd
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Greek civil war is not far behind!

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:24 | Link to Comment Oracle of Kypseli
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The reds have been waiting since 1948 to fundamentally transform the country.

It may be very bloody. UN and the US will interfere for sure. 

However, the protests are left wing-right wing coolition against the socialists.

Strage symbiotic arrangement 

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 21:09 | Link to Comment Seer
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So, populist?

Mon, 05/03/2010 - 04:55 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Or showing that these labels mean nothing?

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:35 | Link to Comment virgilcaine
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The Imf banksters are really sticking it to the Greeks. They should get ready for Riots in the streets.  Let IMF pick up the garbage too.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:55 | Link to Comment Thunder44
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Always have to have to find a way to get our $ printing presses involved.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 21:11 | Link to Comment Seer
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Not a fan of the IMF, but...  Seems that Simon Johnson claimed that the failings were almost always the wealthy players, friends of govt officials, and that govt officials never can seem to force their friends to chip in and help fix things; the result being that the small-fry gets stuck with the bill.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:38 | Link to Comment DaisyMae
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What a misnomer...How can cutting the deficit to 3% by 2014 be considered austerity?  Austerity should be a surplus to compensate for deficits...It means after binging on donuts and twinkies you start eating carrots and celery...not chocolate chip cookies.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:43 | Link to Comment anony
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No one likes us-I don't know why
We may not be perfect, but heaven knows we try
But all around, even our old friends put us down
Let's drop the big one and see what happens

We give them money-but are they grateful?
No, they're spiteful and they're hateful
They don't respect us-so let's surprise them
We'll drop the big one and pulverize them

Asia's crowded and Europe's too old
Africa is far too hot
And Canada's too cold
And South America stole our name
Let's drop the big one
There'll be no one left to blame us

We'll save Australia
Don't wanna hurt no kangaroo
We'll build an All American amusement park there
They got surfin', too

Boom goes London and boom Paris
More room for you and more room for me
And every city the whole world round
Will just be another American town
Oh, how peaceful it will be
We'll set everybody free
You'll wear a Japanese kimono babe
And there'll be Italian shoes for me

They all hate us anyhow
So let's drop the big one now
Let's drop the big one now

r. newman

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 15:47 | Link to Comment LeBalance
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but that's so sudden Anony.  The owners are doing it through the back door with the IMF.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:21 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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Greeks?  Back door?

Nahhhh, I won't go there.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:02 | Link to Comment Spaceman Spiff
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How much time did this bailout buy Greece?   

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:59 | Link to Comment lucky 81
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the real ? is how much time did greece buy the us $. 

when is the next treasury auction? the next treasury auction time will be bought by portugal.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 18:25 | Link to Comment fuu
Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:30 | Link to Comment David449420
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About 7 minutes.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 20:10 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Didn't buy them any time at all, in terms of their ultimate default, which depends more on the maturity dates of important debts, and elections. This is kicking the social unrest can down the road, but that's all can be hoped for.

Greece will be allowed to implode shortly after Portugal and/or Spain enter the bailout pipeline, and the money pledge to Greece to keep the populace under control will then be moved over to the next problem child. Rinse and repeat until the world is uniformly ablaze.

It's called "an unpowered controlled descent". Get used to it.

Mon, 05/03/2010 - 00:49 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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As a practical matter, I wonder if EUO can fail at some point, as things continue to get ineluctably worse in euroland.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:03 | Link to Comment virgilcaine
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At what point are the Greeks classified as a puppet state ?  Now or when they sign the papers.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:19 | Link to Comment Rider
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WAR!! WAR!!!!

US will fight and win this NEW WAR for sure..

BTW.. Who is the enemy today?


Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:30 | Link to Comment Oracle of Kypseli
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The enemy has been identified for sure.

International banksters and arrogant governments.

Start with "Idyll Bank Felon" which is an anagram for GS CEO

Withdraw all your money and buy gold and silver.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:39 | Link to Comment A_MacLaren
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"We've always been at war with Eastasia."

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:27 | Link to Comment dcb
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Juat like iceland, you don't get the choice. eventually in iceland they decided to take a national referendum. you really don't think the banking cartel is going to let democracy get in the way. at all costs the Ponzi system must be maintained.

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:41 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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The Greeks are going to take that bailout whether they want it or not. Officials will be bribed/coerced by the usual bankster despots and if necessary the IMF will personally cram that bailout down Greece's throat, or up its...

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 16:59 | Link to Comment gratefultraveller
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Is Greece just a writing on the wall?

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:05 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Six degrees of separation from Greece to Kevin Bacon.

  1. Greece is bailed out by EU and IMF...
  2. IMF is headquartered in Washington...
  3. Washington D.C. is the headquarters of U.S. Congress...
  4. U.S. Congress passed Obama's huge stimulus package...
  5. Huge stimulus package contains billions of dollars of pork...
  6. Pork is the meat from which we get (Kevin) Bacon!


Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:10 | Link to Comment Mitchman
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Why can't they use fireworks just like everyone else?

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:19 | Link to Comment DoctoRx
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Chumba 14:35  -- best typo yet:  "Eurpope"!  

Sun, 05/02/2010 - 17:38 | Link to Comment Amsterdammer
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A view from Europe: the IMF has stated

it intended to stay 10 fuckin' years in

Greece to fix the mess....

As the Huffpo is reporting than a change of

CEO is in the work at GS, why not make him the Prime

Minister of Greece ? After all he did for them,

he must already have the Greek passport,

and for once, be on the receiving end..






Mon, 05/03/2010 - 00:53 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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At that point, why not parachute one of those "turnaround" CEO's that courts and/or debtholders appoint to restructure failing companies?   Rhetorical question of course.  The Greeks are of a marxist persuasion mostly and resistant to outside dictates.

Mon, 05/03/2010 - 04:57 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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The ten years target made me laugh.


Boom and burst unexplained.


Cook some recipes in decline times. Ten years later, tell the recipes are causes for pick up.


Looks like medicine pre 1600

Mon, 05/03/2010 - 08:32 | Link to Comment kujiranoai
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The reason the bomb did not go off outside Goldman Sachs office is that they don't have an office in Greece. But Goldman Sachs sold the Greek government swaps to hid its budget deficits. How did it do this without having a Greek office?

Could it be that Goldman Sachs is part of the Greek tax evasion problems we have been reading about?

The negotiation and conclusion of contracts in Greece by a foreign company (e.g by the sales or trading employees of the subsidiary of an investment bank acting on behalf of the subsidiary that was a counterparty to the Greek entities in the off market swap contracts FOR EXAMPLE) would normally give rise to a tax filing obligation in Greece for the foreign company and the profit attributable to the activities of the employees when they were in Greece negotiating the contracts would be subject to tax in Greece.

Put more simply, if a foreign company has been sending its employees running around Greece singing multi billion dollar derivatives contracts with the Greek government it might well find itself having a Greek tax liability for the contrubution to its profits of the staff who were in Greece.

I hope Goldman Sachs properly registered its office in Greece and paid its taxes - perhaps they accidently left their Greek office off their contacts section of their home page.

I hope Goldman Sachs properly registered itself for derivative sales in Greece (and didnt think because it was selling to the Greek Govt it was somehow OK).

When you think of Goldman Sachs think of gangsters. More specifically, think of Al Capone.

For specialists who can help solve Greece's fiscal crisis see the below.

US/Greek tax treaty -,,id=169479,00.html

Local law taxable presence definition taken from the web:

For the purposes of Greek income tax law (L. 2238.1994), permanent establishment of a foreign business or corporation in Greece is deemed to exist provided that the latter:... "3. Conducts business in Greece or provides services through a representative, who is authorised to and can negotiate and conclude contracts on behalf of the foreign legal entity, and also when the business or services are offered without a representative, provided that they are related to the drawing up of studies or projects or the conduct of research in general or provided that these works and services are technical or scientific in general...

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