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Greenpeace Conducts First Fukushima Press Conference

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Environmental activists Greenpeace, who recently arrived in Japan, and whose "findings" the Japanese government advised should be avoided, have completed their first press conference. A recording is presented below. Nothing very surprising here: Greenpeace argues that while there is no substantial variation between its findings and those of the government, it has observed inactivity by the government in protecting its people. Greenpeace also observes that so far the peak activity occurred on March 15 (as can be seen on the following graphs) when a radioactive cloud was pushed inland due to prevailing winds, confirming once again that the health of local citizens is more reliant on meteorological condition than on government actions.

The meat of the presentation begins 10 minutes in.

 


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Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:43 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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Greenpeace. environmental activists or extremists?

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:50 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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yes...

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:54 | Link to Comment A Man without Q...
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whale fuckers...

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:04 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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no. just global warming fraudsters.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:17 | Link to Comment Judge Judy Scheinlok
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They are on the ground in Japan taking real readings and releasing that info to the public.

What is the problem with that?

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:32 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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apparently they're not reliable.

Something to do with the whales I think...

I believe 'em...

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:37 | Link to Comment jus_lite_reading
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Let's face it. Whales and everything in the ocean is screwed. Radiation coming out of Japan and into the sea is too high to be safe.

 

http://fiatsfire.blogspot.com/2011/03/radioactive-iodine-131-in-pa-ma-30...

 

And now they are finding it everywhere!

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:58 | Link to Comment zaknick
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Global warming, carbon tax, foyprint etc all just another iinstitution of control. When are you fuckers gonna realize that the TPTB are wildly corrupt and masters of Machiavellian manipulation.

Below my comment you will find the useful idiot who defends something he has done no due diligence on.

Useful idiots; what a nightmare.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:02 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Greenpeace data might prove problematic to "officials".

Japan Urges Calm On Its Farm Products At WTO

Japan expressed concern over recent moves to ban imports of certain Japanese farm products in the multilateral trade body's Trade Negotiations Committee, saying shipments of products possibly contaminated by radioactive materials have already been halted in Japan, and urging members to maintain free trade.

According to WTO rules, scientific evidence is required to ban imports of agricultural products on safety grounds.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 12:33 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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yes, it doesn't matter if glow-in-the-dark-vegetable matter gets up and walks off of its own accord now does it?

Without the scientific stuff, who'd know there was anything wrong anyway...

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:36 | Link to Comment Zina
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There's no difference between an American conservative who says the global warming is a "fraud" and the good old conservatives of the Flat Earth Society, who used to say that "a round Earth is a fraud".

Opposing scientific facts because of political convictions is not very smart... And there is PLENTY of scientific evidence of global warming, and PLENTY of evidence that it's being caused by the increasing concentrations of greenhouse gases in atmosphere.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:47 | Link to Comment trav7777
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yes and there is also evidence of cooling due to aerosol contamination over the indian subcontinent and china. 

The AGW crowd wasn't helped by discovery of cherrypicked data either.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 12:30 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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How about promoting politicized scientific facts because of political convictions?

How smart is that?

You really need to wake the fuck up and realize that politics is evil, as is your perpetration of it.

Anyone who engages in the war of lefty-righty is nothing but a tool of societal destruction. Worst still, is that you are a self-propelled tool, blindly serving your masters while believing you are following your own interests.

Meanwhile all you do is further the destruction by creating a mandate for their next machination.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 11:03 | Link to Comment johngaltfla
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Amen. And worse they are so clueless as to what they speak. I mean come on, blaming the earthquake on the SUV and the nuke problems on Bush.

 

Sheesh, that's so 2000's....

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:57 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Greenpeace is a mouthpeace of special interests. Is all.

They are a manufactured opposition. Anybody so inclined should read what David Icke has to say about them. Spiral has it nailed below.

Strange thing is, on the ground, most Japanese are still in denial mode. Their conditioned mindset cannot wrap itself around the fact that the government is lying through it's teeth to them and that their fabled engineering is just so much show and no tell.

Truly, this is such a repeat of GOM, it boggles the mind. The truth will leak out in the end, but many lives and years later. Only, we don't have them, neither individually nor collectively.

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/03/30/sex-unnatural-oxymoron-and-comment-streams-of-consciousness/

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:04 | Link to Comment ArgentDawn
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David Icke? Seriously? You are losing credibility fast..

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:09 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Argent, it takes a little discrimination to seperate fact from fiction, ne? My credibility is not at stake here. He was their man in the UK for a good long while. While you may think i'm a moonbat on most matters, I can still tell you a thing or two about politics from having been in a hot-set for two years of my life at the highest level.

I also worked with Greenpeace India, they are quite a frightening bunch.

Don't throw the baby out with the Baath water. ;-0

ORI

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:44 | Link to Comment whstlblwr
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At least they have guts to go in there and do something. I sent money to them. Now I'm greenpeace activist!! I don't believe word that comes from your type. Go back to Karl.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 11:13 | Link to Comment malikai
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A sucker is born every day.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:45 | Link to Comment whstlblwr
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twice

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:15 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Bring it on. So far they have demonstrated the willingness to publicize the issue which is more than the owners, the government or MSM is doing.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:17 | Link to Comment malikai
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Yes, they certainly know how well publicity keeps those donations coming.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:32 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Your shilling is a ringing endorsement. In other news:

Edano Suggests Scrapping Of All Reactors At Fukushima Daiichi Plant

TOKYO (Kyodo)--Top government spokesman Yukio Edano suggested Wednesday that all of the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant should be scrapped.

Gov't to spray resin over debris at Fukushima plant

TOKYO, March 30, Kyodo The government plans to spray a water-soluble resin over debris at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant to prevent radiation leaks from spreading further, officials said Wednesday.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:35 | Link to Comment greyghost
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aren't they really just another bunch of clowns with no answers.....yet always yelling "fire"? did they bring hazmat suits for everyone or any at all, how about picks and shovels for clean up, food, water for those closest to the problem, did they fly in or do a beach landing up wind of the power plant? oh i know, since the japanese hunt whales they brought large fans to blow the radiation inland...you know, to teach the evil japanese a lesson!

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:35 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Some might paint the posters at ZH with the same brush.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:00 | Link to Comment grunk
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While they are in Japan, maybe the Greenpeacers could help clean up some debris from the earthquake and tsunami. 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:48 | Link to Comment spiral_eyes
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greenpeace. mouthpiece of climate lobby, maurice strong & david rockefeller. no crisis here.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:37 | Link to Comment TaxSlave
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About as informative as an OweBomba Peacewar speech.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:48 | Link to Comment themosmitsos
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FUCK greenpeace. They're just about the only group of assholes that can make me .... PRO Evil-Corporation

Fucking hippy douchebags

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:51 | Link to Comment themosmitsos
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Although, on second thought, I DO hope they inspect the radiological emmissions ....... VERY up-close.

In fact, they should do humanity a favor: become guinea-pigs: What DOES happen to an asshole when exposed to lethal doses of radiation. Any GreenPeace volunteer will do

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:52 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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I dunno, I thought they did a pretty good job of saving the whales...

Let's face it we do still have whales... don't we...

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:55 | Link to Comment Big Corked Boots
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yes, on many sushi bar menus.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:02 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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your feet will never fit in them boots...

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:06 | Link to Comment zhandax
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Tell me WHERE?  I have been pounding the counter at sushi bars across the nation demanding whale, and I get blank stares.......actually if you substitute cobia and wahoo for whale, this is true.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:13 | Link to Comment Golden monkey
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Thank God. Fucking a whale is better than fucking yourself.

Your whale doesn't like fucking? Well, that means your whale is enjoying life...

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:17 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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I remember Greenpeace was the leading opposition to the building of Diablo Canyon. Many demonstrations by many went ignored.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:32 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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That was long ago.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:46 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Your point?

In other news, the anti nuclear movement is increasing worldwide.

 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:05 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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My point is that between the 1970s and now GreenPeace has been co-opted.

I will not be surprised if the "anti-nuclear" groups turn out to be the same "global warming" groups that have been completely debunked.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:51 | Link to Comment trav7777
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Perhaps Greenpeace can suggest some way to keep the lights on.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 11:11 | Link to Comment malikai
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I think greenpeace's answer to that question is "die".

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:51 | Link to Comment firstdivision
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Sorry, but I don't have sex with hippies.  They are not very well kept, unless you're down with the 70's bush look.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:18 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
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I miss the '70s bush look. A trip to the City swimming pool gave real meaning to "Junk in your Trunks"

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 07:55 | Link to Comment AN0NYM0US
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“When I helped to create Greenpeace from a church basement in Vancouver in 1971 I had no idea that I would spend the next 15 years as an international director and leader of many Greenpeace campaigns. I also had no idea that after I left in 1986 they would evolve into a band of scientific illiterates who use Gestapo tactics to silence people who wish to express their views in a civilized forum.”

Patrick Moore, Ph.D.
Co-Founder of Greenpeace

http://www.greenspirit.com/printable.cfm?msid=26

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:01 | Link to Comment Harlequin001
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I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with Gestapo tactics.

I fully support the efforts of the police and the Internal Revenue Service in their efforts to implement the Patriot Act and the Anti Terrorism Act, and to infiltrate and nail to the floor any filthy terrorist who might dare try and launder more than US$250 a month for 10 years in an offshore savings plan.

Nail the bastards, that's what I say...

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:38 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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+1  add centrally planned economy and 'from each according to his need and to each according to his want' as well ... /sarc

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:02 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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+compromise, bitches!!

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:55 | Link to Comment usefuloutput
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Patrick Moore:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Moore_%28environmentalist%29

'Although he spoke out against nuclear power in 1976,[37] today he supports it, along with renewable energy sources such as hydroelectric, geothermal, biomass, and wind.[26][38][39] In Australian newspaper The Age, he writes "Greenpeace is wrong — we must consider nuclear power"'

This guy should make up his mind.

 

Nuclear fission sucks,

as far as I am concerned for myself

(and the victims of Fukushima, especially!)

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:00 | Link to Comment US Uncut
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Fuchushima DAINI has SMOKE. 4 Reactors there. This is how Daichi started!!!!!!

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/82065.html

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:02 | Link to Comment Byte Me
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Seems Kyodo and TEPCO disagree.

T claim this is happening at Dai-ichi #1 Turbine hall.

As to which is correct -- flip a coin...........

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:48 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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I think they k-now the k-difference -

- from the story:

The announcement came at a time when efforts are under way to contain the nuclear crisis at the radiation-leaking Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex, hit by the devastating March 11 earthquake and ensuing tsunami.

The Fukushima Daini plant is located about 10 kilometers from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi plant, and its four reactors have been stable in so-called ''cold shutdown'' after suspending operations following the quake.

 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:43 | Link to Comment Byte Me
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@Ident 7777

Is your quote from kyodo:

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/82065.html   ,?

TEPCO psyops report:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11033011-e.html

and later;

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/11033012-e.html

all talking about Fuku 1 (Dai-ichi) TH #1.

So far it looks like Kyodo doing typo monkey house stuff to me. Nothing to see here -- move along. Even so, the "wave" at Dai-ini was reputedly larger than at Dai-ichi.. and as they say 'where there's smoke..'

Nah...

 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 11:27 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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Yeah

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/82065.html

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Smoke briefly detected at Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant

TOKYO, March 30, Kyodo

Smoke was temporarily seen at the No. 1 reactor of the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant, but it soon disappeared, its operator said Wednesday.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said smoke was detected at around 5:56 p.m. from a power distribution panel on the first floor of the turbine building at the reactor. The company, known as TEPCO, said it made a call to a local fire department.

The announcement came at a time when efforts are under way to contain the nuclear crisis at the radiation-leaking Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex, hit by the devastating March 11 earthquake and ensuing tsunami.

The Fukushima Daini plant is located about 10 kilometers from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi plant, and its four reactors have been stable in so-called ''cold shutdown'' after suspending operations following the quake.

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QED

 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 11:48 | Link to Comment Byte Me
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It's just beyond sublime, from TEPCO (the u/d):

Press Release (Mar 30,2011)

Smoke generation from the turbine building at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Unit 2 (2nd Release)


On approximately 5:56 pm, March 30th 2011, TEPCO employee discovered smoke
generation from power panel (*)at the turbine building Unit 1 (Reactor cold
shoutdown). On 5:57 pm, March 30th 2011, TEPCO immediately reported this
incident to the fire department.

Subsequently the fire department consisting of TEPCO employee inspected the
area. On approximately 6:13 pm, March 30th 2011,we confirmed the smoke
generation stopped after interrupt electrical supply to the power panel.

From now, the fire department will conduct inspection around the area.

TEPCO will also conduct an investigation into a cause in detail.
This incident will not cause any effect of radiation externally.
(Previously announced on March 30th, 2011)

On 7:15 pm, March 30th 2011, the fire department made a judgmental decision
that this incident was caused fault of the power panel, they found no signs
of fire.

(*) power panel: power supply board to supply electricity to the motor of
a drawing water pump to the outdoor duct.

So they don't even keep their  story straight, starts off h/lined #2 and spouts about #1.

Oh, I get it now. They're breaking us in for fireworks at Fuku 2 down the coast. Well isn't that nice ...

Can't wait for the next psyops release, maybe they'll amend the amendment and inform us that the Reactor cold shoutdown was performed by their new superhero David Icke?

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:21 | Link to Comment CD
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Not that citing multiple bullshit MSM sources necessarily helps, but here it is anyway.

From the Kyodo release:

"The company, known as TEPCO, said it made a call to a local fire department."

#winning!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/30/japan.daini/

"The company said smoke was detected in the turbine building of reactor No. 1 at the Fukushima Daini nuclear power plant around 6 p.m. (5 a.m. ET)."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/30/idUSTKB00740920110330

"Smoke seen at a second power plant in Fukushima was from a so-called electrical distribution board and has dispersed, Japan's nuclear safety body said on Wednesday."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/30/us-japan-quake-idUSTRE72A0SS20110330

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:29 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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"Hello, fire dept?  Hi...we have a kitty up a tree and a smoking nuclear facility...not necessarily in that order..."

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:45 | Link to Comment Byte Me
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...and the kitty has green eyes..

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:36 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Uh oh.  Could be a "Pepsi syndrome".

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:43 | Link to Comment Ident 7777 economy
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"Smoke seen at a second power plant in Fukushima was from a so-called electrical distribution board ..."

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Going to see a LOT of that until those 'boards' are hosed off w/fresh H2O and dried out, meanwhile, back at the reactor buildings ...

 

 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:30 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Smoke Briefly Detected At Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Plant

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110330D30JF496.htm

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:04 | Link to Comment grunk
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This country just lost 30,000 people to an earthquake and tsunami.

These Greenpeaces of shit come into the country like Westboro Baptist Church criticizing Japan?

Not helpful.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:07 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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I was thinking Jessie Jackson and his entourage of filth, but Westboro Baptist Church works just as well!!

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:07 | Link to Comment grunk
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Jesse Jackson only comes in if he smells a shakedown opportunity.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:19 | Link to Comment Golden monkey
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According to Westboro church, whale fuckers are faggots, and so are bears fuckers.

I'm afraid God will soon be mad at you, fuckers.

(Per West church : "He sits in the heaven, and laugh at you", doomed sheeple) 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:34 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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I suppose I would care if I believed in the rhetoric of madmen and further to the point, god.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:44 | Link to Comment Golden monkey
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First and foremost, understand that :

1) Madmen are (really) bad people.

2) (Muslim) Babies killers are (really) good people.

3) At this point of your personnal evolution, you can't teach anything to your children (but you can -and have- to learn from them).

And don't forget, Tyler got a clear picture of both of our spirits.

But you're careless and doomed. Tyler knows that too...

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 11:49 | Link to Comment EvlTheCat
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Ok Golden Shower, thanks for the moral and ethics lesson.  I will sleep better tonight knowing you are crusading on the side of the Reicheous!

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:02 | Link to Comment Judge Judy Scheinlok
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You made me work for that one. Here is the link for those who cannot see the embedded.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13654029

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:15 | Link to Comment Capitalist10
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TEPCO turned "Nuke the whales" from a sarcastic slogan into its corporate motto.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:20 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Yes that turned out real well.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 08:33 | Link to Comment malikai
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Somehow I don't think the Japanese in general give half a shit about what Greenpeace has to say.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:05 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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It might benefit you to take a cue.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:00 | Link to Comment franzpick
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(Tepco to abandon units 1 - 4, president hospitalized.)

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:27 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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The interest group ecosystem has many niches.  I was hoping they would be eating bananas for the press conference but not much sense of humor.

Meanwhile it the blessed atmosphere, here is an awesome satellite loop for Japan...I do not like the tight cyclonic disturbance incoming.  The back end of that will shoot the plume straight at Tokyo.  The question: for how long?

I think once summer heats up there will be daily onshore breezes. 

http://www.eldoradocountyweather.com/current/satellite/japan-china-west-pacific-wv-satellite-loop.html

 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:31 | Link to Comment flattrader
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When the winds change, so will the fortunes of everyone on that Island, regardless of whether or not they are "close" to the reactors.

Thus far, they have been very, very lucky that the winds are out to sea.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:28 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Based on their complete silence during the GOM, it is clear that GreenPeace (and every other major "environmental group") has been co-opted.  So who sent them to Japan and why?

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:47 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Do I recall correctly that there was a no-fly zone and no boats allowed in the areas? Were not the journalists and news crews on the beach run off by FEMA?

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 09:57 | Link to Comment malikai
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No flights within 30km radius of Fukushima Daiichi. No altitude specified, which is unusual. But then again its an unusual situation in totality. Here's the NOTAM:

 

B1080/11 NOTAMR B1048/11 Q) RJJJ/QXXXX/IV/M/EW/000/999/3725N14102E017 A) RJSS B) 1103150259 C) PERM E) IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ARTICLE 80 OF CIVIL AERONAUTICS LAW, FLT PROHIBITED AREA IS ESTABLISHED AS FLW, IDENTIFICATION : RJP1 AREA : WI A RADIUS OF 30KM FM 372529N1410158E (THE TOKYO ELECTRIC POWER CO.INC. FUKUSHIMA NO.1, OKUMA-FUTABA-CHO FUTABA-GUN IN FUKUSHIMA) RMK/SEE AIP ENR 5.3-29 F) SFC G) UNL CREATED: 15 Mar 2011 03:03:00 SOURCE: RJAAYNYX

 

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:00 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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GreenPeace could have challenged these things and held press conferences.  There was nothing.  Articles from GreenPeace on the web?  Nothing.

Thanks for playing.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:08 | Link to Comment goldfish1
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Merely making the mistake of responding to your comments as though they invite dialogue. Thanks for the heads up.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:12 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Move along then.  No loss.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:12 | Link to Comment malikai
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Actually, greenpeace was a very vocal opponent of nuclear power. That is of course until they reversed their opinion following the AGW craze. If I remember correctly, they were formed in response to the Amchitka nuclear tests. I'm not sure how substantiated that claim is, however.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:27 | Link to Comment Jessica6
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I don't know who sent them to Japan but they were sending out anti-nuke press releases if not the day of the Earthquake, then the day after. They seemed to be chomping at the bit for some nuke doom whose photographs will likely replace the white baby seal on some of the marketing material.

They have a plain anti-nuke agenda, ignoring the differences in different types of technology, reactors, etc.

http://www.enviralment.ca/2011/03/23/nuclear-power-facts-the-differences...

Also: The CANDU reactor is a deuterium oxide (heavy water) moderated reactor which can operate on natural uranium fuel.

I'd be a lot more sympathetic to environmentalist causes if they targetted the lifestyles of the rich before that of the middle class, got science degrees instead of film studies and stopped holding conferences in exotic luxury resorts. There's no reason they can't just do webconferencing these days.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:46 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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I'd be more sympathetic if GreenPeace targetted the real pollutors; government (especially the MIC) and corporations, instead of the little guy.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 11:11 | Link to Comment malikai
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I'd be a lot more sympathetic to environmentalist causes if they targetted the lifestyles of the rich before that of the middle class, got science degrees instead of film studies and stopped holding conferences in exotic luxury resorts.

Re. Lifestyles of the rich and shameless, where would they get their money from then?

Re. Science degrees vs. film studies, that wouldn't work because the people who got science degrees might actually know the subject matter vs. the propaganda. Also, the science degreed people probably got real jobs after school.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:18 | Link to Comment malikai
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Updated winds/Fallout forecast for Japan (chrome translated) bad news:

 

Today, on Wednesday, crossing a weak fault zone of north-west Japan. It brings, especially in West-jam of the mountains precipitation in the form of showers. In the space Fukushima and Tokyo even some rain showers are possible, generally it should remain dry. The wind is in the next few hours along the east coast south of Fukushima even briefly up from South West, but otherwise mostly from West to northwest. These winds move from west to northwest in the wake of radioactive substances from Japan back out into the Pacific.

On Thursday a trough moves from north-west of Japan. This leads to some particularly heavy rain showers until midday in part, in the mountains is likely to snow showers. In the afternoon the weather is improving and it is often dry. The wind blows from west to north, the radioactive substances make their way out into the Pacific.

On Friday, the flow turns at the front of a cold front to southwest to west. It is mostly dry, until the evening hours in the far north is some rain expected. The wind comes into the early afternoon from southeast to southwest, so the radioactive substances can be north of Fukushima blown inland. Then the wind is blowing from southwest to northeast.

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Wed, 03/30/2011 - 10:54 | Link to Comment trav7777
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So their data shows a peak 2 weeks ago?  ZH hysteria didn't peak till long after that.

Daily we hear how the situation is "deteriorating," and here Green-piece says no?

Reading these comments I wonder exactly who most of the posters here would believe if they released data.

Wed, 03/30/2011 - 22:59 | Link to Comment Element
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Does anyone really think Greenpeace is more credible than TEPCO?

Piss off. They are both complete bullshitters and liars.

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