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On The Ground Reports From Japan

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Following much ongoing confusion about a fact-based reality in Japan, leading many to express somewhat extremist opinions due to persistent scarcity of facts, here are three much needed clips showing the sentiment on the ground in Tokyo courtesy of the mostly impartial BBC News.

The operators of a stricken Japanese nuclear plant have apologised
for a "mistake" in reporting a radiation spike 10 million times above
normal. Tokyo Electric Power Company, which has previously been
criticised by officials for its handling of the crisis at the plant,
said it got the readings wrong. Despite the mistake, the radiation spike at reactor 2 was still very high and enough to evacuate workers.

Anti-nuclear protesters have held a large rally in Tokyo, calling for
change in Japan's nuclear industry. Meanwhile, efforts are continuing to
locate the exact source of a radioactive water leak at the stricken
Fukushima nuclear plant.


Two weeks after an earthquake and tsunami hit Japan, the country's
prime minister, Naoto Kan, has said the situation at the Fukushima
nuclear plant remains ''grave and serious''. Fukushima's operators have
said water at one reactor was 10,000 times more radioactive than normal,
raising fears that its core is damaged. Anti-nuclear protests have been
taking place in Tokyo as an investigation is under way to establish the
source of the radiation leak.

And the latest video from a helicopter overflight:


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Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:04 | 1105952 Sudden Debt
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Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:35 | 1106039 What does it al...
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How can they be "impartial"?  They cancelled the live coverage right after Libya bombing started.

(This was a designated thread for Japan Quake/Tsunami/Nuclear Disaster.)

I will give you that they are way way more fair than US MSM, CNN still broadcast how upbeat the survivors are and what benefits there are in investing in Japan.  (Ali Velshi. around 5pm, Saturday afternoon.)  Although around noon EST, is the first time that they said this can last for more than 1 year.  (Maybe the institutional guys have finally positioned their books right.)

One tip, if you know Korean or Chinese, the Asian news streams are way more in depth and actually down right glee...

At this point, it is like the US deficit...  really, what is the difference between 14 trillion or 140 trillion?  (besides an additional digit?)  It is all a blur for most Americans, and human beings.  We don't do scale well...


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:36 | 1106088 Piranhanoia
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Beeb does things differently. Their coverage is much as it always was, and gets to the important info quickly. Even if deficient in fact, it comes with a bit less spin.

They might see live bombing as something different than our fug, CON, or More Stinking Nonsense Bull Shit would.  Here it's revenue time. The beeb allows you to go elsewhere if you want sensational opinion.   Not many people are experienced with a lack of opinion with news. It stopped in the 70's.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:36 | 1106287 Thinkor
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Some one probably confused millisieverts with microsieverts.

The situation does not sound so dire at IAEA, but you won't really know what's happened until the major work is over.  Wake me.

Some excerpts:

Dose rates at the Fukushima site continue to trend downwards.

On 26 March, the highest values were observed in the prefecture of Yamagata: 7500 becquerel per square metre for iodine-131 and 1200 becquerel per square metre for caesium-137. In the other prefectures where deposition of iodine-131 was reported, the daily range was from 28 to 860 becquerel per square metre. For caesium-137, the range was from 2.5 to 86 becquerel per square metre.

Two IAEA teams are currently monitoring in Japan. One team made gamma dose-rate measurements in the Tokyo region at 8 locations. Gamma-dose rates measured ranged from 0.08 to 0.15 microsievert per hour, which is within or slightly above the normal background. The second team made additional measurements at distances of 30 to 41 km from the Fukushima nuclear power plant. At these locations, the dose rates ranged from 0.9 to 17 microsievert per hour. At the same locations, results of beta-gamma contamination measurements ranged from 0.03 to 3.1 Megabecquerel per square metre.

The measured radiation doses rates above the sea remain consistently low (between 0.04 and 0.1 microsievert per hour

Caesium-137 was also detected above the regulation values in one sample of spinach taken on 24 March in Tochigi prefecture, but in the remaining two prefectures, the results were below regulation values.


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:23 | 1106422 mchawe
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BBC "Impartial" ???!!!

Oh dear Tyler !

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:21 | 1106565 SparkyvonBellagio
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Video of tsunami damage and incredible water rise. Nearly 6 minutes that everyone should view. It's horrible but important to watch to comprehend the wrath of tsunamis strength.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:11 | 1105973 Sudden Debt
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The operators of a stricken Japanese nuclear plant have apologised for a "mistake" in reporting a radiation spike 10 million times above normal.




Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:15 | 1105982 oogs66
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10,000 times, 100,000 times, a million times, its hard to tell when you are shaking and p*ssing your radiation pants!

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:18 | 1105989 Sudden Debt
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The Geigher caunter in his hands does look a bit beaten up when you look at the tape on the bottom :)


Mon, 03/28/2011 - 05:32 | 1107918 Kiwi Pete
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I think the original 10,000,000 times is most likely to be accurate. A sliver of truthiness before the spin doctors got involved. Note that they never actually came out with a revised figure. Hey, perhaps it was only 19,999,999 times.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:20 | 1106013 Atomizer
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Balloon Boy caused this whole media stir

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:25 | 1106034 whatsinaname
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Sorry, but even the BBC has been pandering the Libya news in all its profligate colors versus running coverage for the Jap crisis. The media is doing a great disservice to mankind in its attitude towards this and you- know-what crises in the past.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:34 | 1106076 What does it al...
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+1, I agree, check my post.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:12 | 1105976 Oh regional Indian
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The mostly impartial BBC. Hah! Nice Joke Tylers. Nice. The biggest .gov, Chatham House/Tavistock inspired "News".

But this is so clearly a mis-information campaign that it boggles the mind. Are they trying to hold back a panicked flood of people trying to leave Tokyo? Save face? 

Of course people are going to go on jumping off into extreme views. it's called COgnitive dissonance and it's probably never been higher. Japanese radiation in Nevada. Is it tagged so they can tell?

Something stinks to the high heavens with the coverage (At least the Hedge has been consistently taking the high (numbers) road, which usually turn out to be under-reported anyways).

Edgar Cayce might have been on to something here. Our collective jawboning seems as futile (since ALL the facts come from controlled sources) as during GOM, deepwater Horizonn.

And now the Sea is officially contaminated anyways.

Water, Air, Fire in the hole.



Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:16 | 1105978 LostWages
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Who are you going to believe--me, or your lying radioactive eyes?

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:13 | 1105981 Dick Gozinya
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I'm guessing opening at black light suschi bar in the Gulf of Mexico would be an unsuccessful business model at this point.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:22 | 1106014 Sudden Debt
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Maybe a Godzilla breeding farm will make you rich?


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:33 | 1106062 EvlTheCat
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Streaming Godzilla vs. Monster Zero;stream.nsv

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:47 | 1106132 What does it al...
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Neon green sashmi and oil slick noodles.  Must be the bomb!

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:01 | 1106173 mick_richfield
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Are you nuts?  This is brilliant!  We can have sushi that never goes stale!



Fed delenda est.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 19:55 | 1106956 Fearless Rick
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Dude, I'm junking you every time I see that stupid, "Fed delenda est," attached to your comments. Are you trying to impress somebody that you almost understand two words in Latin. We all know the Fed must go; try doing something about it instead of chanting in Latin. This isn't a fucking church and you're no damn priest.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 20:19 | 1107003 tmosley
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I'm pretty sure that's not actually latin.  Fed da lender is.

Suggest you not sweat the small stuff.  There is plenty to get mad about around here.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:14 | 1105985 koeleköpke
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Since long they play with nuclear energy. In case of an accident no fucking professional from the east to the west can come with a solution ! This means all over the world the nuclear processes will become nightmares as soon as something goes wrong. It is just a countdown!

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:48 | 1106326 flattrader
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Hey Texans!

You might want to DO SOMETHING to make certain TEPCO doesn't get a stake in the Texas nuclear project.

Of, course if you just want to wait it out, there might not be a TEPCO.

NRG CEO Says Tepco Exit Would Hurt Texas Nuclear Project -Nikkei

NEW YORK (Nikkei)--It would be a significant blow if Tokyo Electric Power Co. (9501.TO) pulls out of a planned investment in a nuclear power project spearheaded by U.S. firm NRG Energy Inc. (NRG) and Toshiba Corp. (6502.TO) in the state of Texas, CEO of the U.S. utility David Crane told the Nikkei in an interview published on Friday.

Tepco, which is battling a major accident at its earthquake-crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant, said in May 2010 it would spend up to $250 million Y(20 billion) to acquire a stake in the project to build units 3 and 4 at the South Texas Project nuclear plant if the U.S. government provides loan guarantees. The Japanese utility already has a technological tie-up with NRG Energy.

Crane said NRG has not yet talked with Tepco about what the Japanese utility plans to do regarding the investment. He also said if Tepco decides to end its involvement, his firm may seek investment from other Japanese companies such, as financial institutions and trading houses.

The expansion plans at the Texas plant aim to get approval for construction and operation in 2011, begin construction in the summer of 2012 and bring the two new reactors onstream in 2016 and 2017.

Crane said the Fukushima accident will delay the project by at least three to six months.

(END) Dow Jones Newswires
Copyright (c) 2011 Dow Jones & Company, Inc.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:16 | 1105990 Dr. Porkchop
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Chocolate rations increased to 28 grams per week.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:19 | 1105992 Highrev
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Despite the mistake, the radiation spike at reactor 2 was still very high and enough to evacuate workers.

It's the "very" part of that phrase that has me alarmed. /sarcasm


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:19 | 1105998 fragrantdingleberry
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Does radiation make you squint?

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:00 | 1106176 TheMerryPrankster
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Mostly just kills or damages at the cellular level, since we are a big bag of cells, a host of damage occurs. Cancer, destruction of the digestive system, destruction of  the immune system, pneumonia, internal bleeding and destruction of your entire sarcasm mechanism. We all are the same when we are dead.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:30 | 1106272 Sokhmate
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+ 2 pounds of the most common bacteria in the human gut.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 22:59 | 1107357 thegr8whorebabylon
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+ stronty, blood & bone.  luekemia bitchez

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:18 | 1106004 Bazooka
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To ALL Japanese Residents within 80 km, please, drive, fly away to the safest distance possible.

This is not the time to wait and's time for action!

God Bless!

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:21 | 1106027 Sudden Debt
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LET'S ALL RUN TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ISLAND!! 2nd on the right of those other Nuclear power plants...


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:46 | 1106128 perchprism
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If they all got on the other side of the island it would tip over, silly.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:01 | 1106183 Holodomor2012
Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:08 | 1106388 malikai
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Oh my god. I haven't laughed like that in days!

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:12 | 1106400 Hulk
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He looks high as a kite...

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:03 | 1106189 Stoploss
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They can't do that because the island might tip over and capsize. You see, a US congressman expressed the same concern about Guam, when the military wanted to move the CC's and troops to one side of the island, but were then disuaded due to the possibility Guam would capsize because of so much weight on one side of the island. So they can't do that.

Nice try though.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:19 | 1106008 PulauHantu29
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"It's only a tiny leak" the officals said at first....

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:26 | 1106048 sangell
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Deepwater Horizon or Fukushima?

Why the Japanese government ( and world) continues to allow TEPCO to conduct radiation measurements is beyond me. Its even more of a conflict that letting BP 'estimate' the oil flow at its Macondo well.3

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:18 | 1106554 PhattyBuoy
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But I  am not volunteering for the job.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:22 | 1106017 RobotTrader
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Heh, meanwhile, retailers cannot wait to re-open their stores to take advantage of the coming shopping boom in N. Japan:

"A dozen of Wal-Mart’s Seiyu stores in the quake-hit Sendai
area are restarting full operations today after being limited
mostly to relief efforts for two weeks, Scott Price, Wal-Mart’s
Asia chief, said in an interview yesterday. Of the remaining 12
stores, 10 will be opened as soon as possible.

Retailers from Wal-Mart to 7-Eleven operator Seven & I
Holdings Co.
are racing to reopen stores and replenish shelves
after the March 11 disaster left hundreds of thousands in the
Tohoku region, northeast Japan, scrambling for shelter, food and

And stocks in Egypt rally the most in 15 months as political stability was restored???  LOL... what a joke:

Sees like the worse the news, speculators appetite for risk increases even more.

Would not surprise me to see radioactive Japanese escorts now command ultra-high premiums in New York City.  "Man, that chick was ultra hot!!!  She was beaming!"

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:26 | 1106046 Sudden Debt
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Clearly a radiation victim...

Her eyes already start to focus onto 1 point and her skin is turning yellow...


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:40 | 1106104 Threeggg
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I just spit water all over my TEPCO alternate keyboard.

I know I shouldn't laugh but, man was that funny Sudden!

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:55 | 1106511 Rusty Shorts
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I believe that's REON KADENA of Japan.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:39 | 1106100 10kby2k
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This girl looks 15.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:52 | 1106148 Sudden Debt
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It's legal in most Europe countries.


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:16 | 1106236 trav7777
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Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:42 | 1106477 Mr. Mandelbrot
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Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:45 | 1106488 tmosley
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Perversion is the least of his many shortcomings.


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 23:20 | 1107425 trav7777
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still mindboggled over the difference between taking food and cleaning out an electronics store?  Or the difference between 10s of thousands and zero?

Mon, 03/28/2011 - 02:04 | 1107747 tmosley
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Uh-huh.  So now it's ok to steal one thing and not another, huh?

Let's add moral relativism to you list of shortcomings.

I see lots of whites, and they aren't just taking food.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:27 | 1106261 1fortheroad
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Robo, they have inventory to liquidate. 

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:20 | 1106018 unky
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if anyone interested, the ruling party CDU lost the Baden Würtemberg province.
Here is the link:

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:32 | 1106061 unky
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hehe sorry, didnt see that...

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:54 | 1106156 Sudden Debt
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you'd better not log off because soon you'll be confronted with the WRATH OF THE CAPTCHA TEST!



Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:53 | 1106152 Joe Grannville
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Tyler,  I realize that you need a constant stream of grist for the mill here but I'd say most of YOUR re-prints/posts need to be taken with a grain of salt.  I'm referring to last Sundays post about the Gulf oil spill part II.  Other than that I'd have to give you 5 stars for the entertainment factor but a zero with regard to checking your sources.  No worries though.  The information age has become the mis-information age. SSDD.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:40 | 1106305 defender
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Of course, he could have been entirely accurate as well.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:46 | 1106319 Joe Grannville
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"However, the company claimed in those reports that it had spilled less than five gallons of crude -- an amount far too small to account for the scope of the spill shown in aerial photographs. Nor would five gallons of crude square with reports of oil washing up over a 30 mile stretch of Louisiana's shoreline"

Thanks for making my point for me!


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:49 | 1106333 Cammy Le Flage
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You are a fucking idiot. How's that working out for you? Considering the majority of our planet is overrun with those like you (fucking idiots) - hence the major problems that exist today and yes, they do exist and are real. Please - shut the fuck up. The situation in the GOM is worse than being reported you fucking idiot. Anyone else sick of idiots? Man, I admit what I don't know but fucking idiots - they know it all obviously. Fucking idiot. Please tattoo on your fucking forehead.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:20 | 1106021 Dr. Porkchop
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I think there's an errror in the caption for picture #2.. those are the Tepco workers on their way to fix the cooling systems with their new protective gear.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:22 | 1106022 Amish Hacker
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This must be a war. Truth was the first casualty.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:21 | 1106026 stuartbushcraftblog
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An ICBM was fired off of the coast of L.A. a few months back and acording to the MSM it was "Some kids messing about with a bottle rocket!"

A fat finger caused the may 6th flash crash.

"Read my lips no more taxes"


Come on guys and girls who do we believe here? The BBC?


Of course it is bad,very bad but no one in 'power' wants to admit it because they can only handle a crisis of their own creation, when a real one comes along they run around like headless chickens.


They cannot handle the fact that Tokyo will no longer be the capital of Japan,if Japan survives that is.





Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:34 | 1106277 Things that go bump
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"When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout."  Attributed to Robert A. Heinlein 

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:22 | 1106030 stopcpdotcom
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"mostly impartial BBC News."

Do not make the mistake of thinking the BBC is impartial.

It is controlled by Common Purpose:


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:24 | 1106032 DutchTreat
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There goes my daily whale sandwich. 

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:31 | 1106058 buzzsaw99
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...the level of radiation in puddles near reactor 2 was confirmed at 1,000 millisieverts an hour.

That doesn't sound too bad. Just a minor leak. Ann Coulter's therapeutic bath water is more radioactive than that.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:31 | 1106064 EscapeKey
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Supposedly new horrifying tsunami footage. Keep watching, it gets worse, and worse, and worse.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:11 | 1106214 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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Absolutely incredible footage, some of the best documentation of the force yet.  Unlike 100 years ago, videos like this really do help people who are not close to the situation understand just how powerful and destructive this is and how it just slowly overtakes everything in it's path.  Hopefully doing the useful job of educating those in risk zones. 

You also have to wonder at what point during the recording did the individual wish they had not decided to be an ireporter and had opted to evacuate.   Hopefully he was in some fortress type building, that this isn't the result of a file that was written to a flash disk being found days later.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:27 | 1106259 trav7777
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this video is incredible...even people on the ground who got onto the roof of most buildings would have been killed.  The sheer volume of water and its flow pace is just astonishing

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:40 | 1106298 TaxSlave
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Absolutely horrifying.  You can see people getting swept into the town.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 18:13 | 1106724 Dabale arroz a ...
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WOW, this is the force of nature. If the video has been posted, hopefully it will mean the building it was filmed from also stood. Lucky one, almost all the rest were swept away. Incredible.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:32 | 1106069 davepowers
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everyone can relax

revised test claimed it was only 100,000 times above normal

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:34 | 1106072 Heroic Couplet
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1. We need a Wikileaks Radiation Japan from Julian Assange or his team, and we need it fast. 2. New meaning for the Internet Kill Switch: the Internet doesn't necessarily get turned off, it can get flooded with psyops and mis- and dis-information.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:33 | 1106073 LivermoreJim
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An apology?  Hundreds of people probably fled homes they were previously told to remain in -- exposing themselves to whatever airborne radiaiton they had been protected from.  Imagine what anger is beginning to simmer in the Japanese people.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:51 | 1106145 whoopsing
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Protected in their home's? your kidding right? the best bet for these people is to get as far away,as quickly as they can.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:19 | 1106238 Joe Grannville
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What is the Japanese government supposed to do?  "OK citizens, this is turning out to be a bigger shit storm than we previously suspected.  Everybody pack your bags and move to the north pole where we think it is safe to assume that we can successfully blend in with the Eskimo's."

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:35 | 1106075 davepowers
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A few hours later, TEPCO Vice President Sakae Muto said a new test had found radiation levels 100,000 times above normal — far better than the first results, though still very high.

But he ruled out having an independent monitor oversee the various checks despite the errors.

Officials acknowledged there was radioactive water in all four of the Fukushima Dai-ichi complex's most troubled reactors, and that airborne radiation in Unit 2 measured 1,000 millisieverts per hour, four times the limit deemed safe by the government.

Those high airborne readings — if accurate — would make it very difficult for emergency workers to get inside to pump out the water.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:29 | 1106581 HK
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But he ruled out having an independent monitor oversee the various checks despite the errors.


C'mon, it's a simple formula, you add this to that, divide by this, then wait .... wait, papa needs a new pair of shoes..... snake eyes.... okay your number has to be this.  I remember an article from Barrons in the 90's when one of the big market movers told the story of how he was talking with a Japanese executive and the executive told him the price of their stock was going to be a certain price in one year.  After a year, sure enough it was that price.  The market mover looked on this with disdain, said he didn't want to invest in a fixed market.  My, how things have come full circle.  God help us if the truth got out.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:37 | 1106077 davepowers
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2x post sorry


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:42 | 1106106 tim73
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This site is turning into a nut house.

Beware...UN guvmint is out to get you! Look out for black helicopters and men with white hats!


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:28 | 1106263 Broder_Tuck
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Your mother is turning into a madhouse.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:16 | 1106405 tmosley
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What, so there was no incident at the nuclear plant?  Is that what you are trying to say?

Because if there WAS an incident at the nuclear plant, then we are all discussing the possible and likely outcomes, along with the incompetence of those in charge.  We are also shouting down the fools who claim that it is "no big deal", or who give us projections based on illogical assumptions, like "the rate of radioactive release will stay the same at worst".

Fuck you for trying to shut down legitimate conversation by calling people "conspiracy theorists".  Get the fuck out of here, and take Trav with you.


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:46 | 1106644 Miss anthrope
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plus one million,  highly recommend

Tmosley do you think this sight ever really wakes someone up from the koolaid? 

Mon, 03/28/2011 - 00:41 | 1107624 knukles
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I think he's trying to say its a false flag false flag flag.... that there's really not even a nuclear plant, that it's just a combination April Fools and March Arbor Family Dollar Tree Celebration Day Scary Ride Entertainment Event.

Lot of confusion out there.
We must remain calm.  

Pass the Jello.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 18:48 | 1106813 TaxSlave
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This site is turning into a nut house.

Beware...UN guvmint is out to get you! Look out for black helicopters and men with white hats!

Ya, they said that about us when we warned about the Federal Reserve and the coming housing bust.

How's your real estate doing?

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 20:47 | 1107071 Yits and the Yimrum
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get lost Troll

even a dumb ass can see the energy purveyors are in serious melt down mode

enjoy some nice gulf shrimp and some fuckyoushima sushi and leave ZH to the non-Koolaid addled, human beings

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:43 | 1106112 bob_dabolina
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So TEPCO has decided to take a page directly out of the SEC crisis management playbook?

This sounds an awful lot like when the aforementioned institution blamed Waddell and Reid for the 1000 point DOW flash clash.

This misinformation being force fed down my throat is starting to burn a hole in my duodenum

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:44 | 1106116 savagegoose
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all said and done im just glad i dont live in 100km of the place. hell here in australian i dont think theres a nuke reactor within cooee of here, unless a us carrier is in port.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:01 | 1106178 avonaltendorf
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The lucky country. My favorite place.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:11 | 1106392 Traprock
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Lucas Heights, Sydney?

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:45 | 1106118 Pablo Escobar
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Here is the newest, baddest , high quality video of some exploded plants.  I haven't been following the debate of the architecture of the plants, but I thought that the spent fuel pools were at the second and third floors from the top of the buildings.....  If so, they are toastados...


In addition, one view had the top of a reactor container dome to the left of the picture.  I assume that this must be reactor 4, where reports were that the top was off at the time of the earthquake.


Finally, take a gander at the hole in the out building....  Something very big and very heavy fell on top of it.  I wonder if it was the reactor dome from the exploded reactor 3?


Anyone speak Japanese for a translation?

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:56 | 1106164 Threeggg
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That video tells more truth than anyone here can say !

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:12 | 1106212 whoopsing
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Thank's for the link Pablo,Some serious shit there

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:41 | 1106309 trav7777
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great video...they sure as shit should have vented those buildings prior to having 3 explosions wreck the shit out of everything.

If reactor 3 had blown up, the radiation levels would be immediately lethal for the chopper pilots; they'd be dead within a day.  Stop posting bullshit.

People over 1km away looking at the exposed Chernobyl reactor received immediate lethal doses.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:54 | 1106506 Mr. Mandelbrot
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Watch The Battle of Chernobyl, which interviews a man who was commissioned to take aerial photos from a helicopter the day after the accident.  The radiation was enough to break his camera after just 12 pictures, but he obviously didn't receive an "immediate lethal dose" since he gave an interview in 2006, twenty years later . . .

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:43 | 1106632 Muir
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I'm sorry Mr. Mandelbrot, trev does not believe in fractals, or rather, he insists that you plagiarized the idea from pre-Egyptian Pygmies living in what is now Alexandria.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 18:00 | 1106685 Matte_Black
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Thanks. I'm about 30 mins into it, and just wanted to tell others who have not seen it that this is a riveting film.

It is a true horror, what happened at Chernobyl.

I had thought, stupidly - perhaps even arrogantly - that I knew a lot about it.

Hell no, I didn't.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 23:24 | 1107441 trav7777
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what was his altitude?

People who were exposed to the reactor core from a bridge near Chernobyl (bridge of death), all died, some within a day.  It was 2km from the reactor.  Anyone standing up there (and lots went to look at the pretty colors) received a lethal dose. 

this guy probably lived bc his camera got fried.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 18:15 | 1106736 Pablo Escobar
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You know, Karl Denninger, your sock puppets bore me.  You are wrong, you are a troll, and you a laughingstock all across the net. 


Who else would run a hacked together "investment" website, and I use that term loosely as it's mostly a guaranteed fade win, that bans any mention of gold or silver as possible investments as "they are a guaranteed fail.  You can't eat gold".  Not to mention, your insistence over and over again that no way would Bernanke print, as it would only hurt him.





Sun, 03/27/2011 - 23:28 | 1107448 trav7777
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you're talking to me?  You think I am Douchinger?  ROTFL.

You know how many times Douchinger banned me from TF?  I bet him the Bernank would print and EMAILED HIM to remind him that I was right.

My last handle on TF was "FUKD"...just think through that one for a while.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 18:26 | 1106762 Dabale arroz a ...
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It would be great if an expert in this type of reactors could say its conclusions after viewing this video. I'm not an expert at all, but some things look really ugly.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:45 | 1106124 davepowers
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another quote from the AP article cited above

Workers have been scrambling to remove the radioactive water from the four units and find a place to safely store it. Each unit may hold tens of thousands of gallons of radioactive water, said Minoru Ogoda of Japan's nuclear safety agency.

Safety agency officials had been hoping to pump the water into huge, partly empty tanks inside the reactor that are designed to hold condensed water.

Those tanks, though, turned out to be completely full, said Hidehiko Nishiyama of Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency.

Meanwhile, plans to use regular power to restart the cooling system hit a roadblock when it turned out that cables had to be laid through turbine buildings flooded with the contaminated water.

"The problem is that right now nobody can reach the turbine houses where key electrical work must be done," Nishiyama said. "There is a possibility that we may have to give up on that plan."

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:54 | 1106155 Infinite QE
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Bottle it for Ann Coulter. She can drink more of the Man Juice to keep her pecker working.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:58 | 1106160 AN0NYM0US
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clips showing the sentiment on the ground in Tokyo courtesy of the mostly impartial BBC News


I assume sarc was on. The BBC for the most part are are lefter than left global warming alarmist anti nuke envirowacks.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 14:56 | 1106161 Infinite QE
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Wait until monsoon season comes! No place there will be safe.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:04 | 1106186 davepowers
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a very interesting article in the Wash Post

epco spokesperson Yoshimi Hitosugi said that the utility company did not know about the contaminated water in the No. 3 unit until the injuries occurred. "There was no water in No. 3 the day before when our staff checked same place," Hitosugi said. “So we thought it would not be problem on next day.”

One subcontracted worker who laid cables for new electrical lines March 19 described chaotic conditions and lax supervision that made him nervous. Masataka Hishida said neither he nor the workers around him were given a dosimeter, a device used to measure one’s exposure to radiation. He was surprised that workers were not given special shoes; rather, they were told to put plastic bags over their street shoes. When he was trying on the gas mask for the first time, he said the supervisor told him and other subcontractors, “Listen carefully, I’m only going to say this one time” while explaining how to use it.

When Hishida finished his work shift, an official scanned his whole body for radiation. He came up clean, except for the very tip of his beard. He was sent into a shower where he lathered up and scrubbed his beard. He was tested again and passed.

A few days later, still worried about the extent of his radiation exposure, he trimmed his beard.


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:04 | 1106187 Highrev
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Who was responsible for that helicopter overflight? Did they make it back alive? Or did they live stream it?

Hope they're okay.

It looks like there's lots of good new data there.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:05 | 1106201 tim73
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Hey you panicked headless chickens, read this:

"Radio-iodine, though, did have measurable (though very small) health effects after Chernobyl: if children and young people drank milk containing large amounts of it - thousands of times the levels seen in Japan to this point - their chances of getting cancer increased by approximately 0.02 per cent."


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:10 | 1106215 Threeggg
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Well then Timmy, I quess everything is ok then.

Dude why would you post that data ?????

It wasted my time even reading it.

What about all the other (much more ) serious compound shit comming out of Fukushima ?


Mon, 03/28/2011 - 00:15 | 1107575 StychoKiller
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Timmy:  "Golly Mr. Lizard, what does NitroGlycerin do?"

Mr. Lizard:  "Well Timmy, put it in this blender while I get behind this lead shield...(BOOM!)...We're gonna need another Timmy!"  -- Dinosaurs, (Jim Henson TV Series)

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:49 | 1106320 Colonel Sun
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It is interesting how posters here have a need to believe that the Fukushima incident is far far worse than it actually is.


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:26 | 1106431 tmosley
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More interesting is how you have a need to believe everything is fine.  Why?  To justify the continued existence of the world as you know it?

You need to get the fuck out of here, along with your other bullshit sock puppets.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:54 | 1106659 Colonel Sun
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So the world as we know it is about to end?


Anyways, be sure to take potassium iodide pills by the handful, stock up on food and bottled water, and keep vigilantly scanning the horizon for a reawakened radioactive Godzilla.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:08 | 1106205 truont
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What is this?

Everyone-Write-In-Italics Day?

Must have missed the memo...

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:25 | 1106229 Oligarchs Gone Wild
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LOL, was just going to post the same.  Something in the post itself an unclosed <I>

Tyler, the code problem is emphasis tag following the Helicopter overflight: <em/>

<p><em>And the latest video from a helicopter overflight:<em/></p>
Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:29 | 1106264 Dr. Porkchop
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Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:14 | 1106224 skwareman
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<sarcasm> Damned, we could have opted for wind energy, there's enough of it around our densily populated island. But wait, lets opt for nuclear energy and build some reactors right on fault lines and next to the sea... Let's see what will happen if disaster strikes... </sarcasm> I guess nuclear energy is much more profitable and therefore Japan only has installed about 10% wind energy in comparison with Germany, and that is not an island...
Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:54 | 1106327 tim73
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Wind power is unreliable. With 2 MW turbine you would get only 20-30 percent of the max on average, 400 kW-600 kW. Variation of that output is also very high, one hour you get 50 percent and two hours later zero. So for one 1000 MW nuclear plant, you have to install thousands of turbines, a lot of lines and even than you will get near zero output hours.

It also poorly matches the energy demand patterns. Freezing temperature with high pressure with no wind is the worst case. Plus the fact you have to build the grid to withstand that maximum capacity even when you will get that only few times per month. Then there is corrosive sea enviroment and maintenance being pain in the ass. Wind power means also you have to build also backup plants to cover the deficit during low output periods.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 19:46 | 1106934 DizzyFish
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Yes Tim, wind power is unreliable. Thanks for making that point. Not to mention being of great nuisance (low-frequency vibrations disturbing sleep, shadow flicker, visual and environmental detriment etc.) to the usually rural communities upon whom it is inflicted.

However it is not a good excuse to continue building nuclear power plants. As part of my physics undergrad studies I learned how nuclear plants work, in a very sanitised and idealiststic way. In this shitty cost-cutting environment it's clear now that safety standards are bypassed for profit, or perhaps more importantly avoidance of shareholder losses.

Given your various headless chicken shit statements earlier in the comments (and recently at #1105266, #1105191), perhaps there is an element of 'projection' going on. It strikes me you are either the most useless shill or it would be befitting for you to wander the streets with an 'End of the World is Nigh' sandwich board. Kindly get a grip of yourself.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 23:30 | 1107455 trav7777
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so how we keep the lights on then, dizzy?

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:13 | 1106225 savagegoose
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ok i gotta ask, how does the radiation of the 2 cities that got nuked in ww2 compare to the radiation they have here? i mean they recovered from being nuked twice. im guessing a lot less radioactive matter but spread over a mucvh larger area. but what about the levels?

oh right no ones telling what the levels are now.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:14 | 1106227 ivars
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Here is new measurment data from TEPCO, correcting the mistaken one ( columns 2-4, 4 being latest measurment):

There are no billions of becquerels, anymore, but:

3rd post from the top shows the measurment table.

Last row ( total activity) has increased slightly (5%) in the last 10 hours.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:32 | 1106271 AG BCN
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A rough check shows that the furthest distance from Fukushima is 700 miles from the Uruguay / Southern Brazil coast.

One of the nearest habitable places is the coast near Montevideo.


Wind patterns seem favourable


Sun, 03/27/2011 - 20:42 | 1107054 Fearless Rick
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Hey, shut the hell up. Don't tell everyone to go to Uruguay. That's where I'm headed.

Folks, the weather sucks, the people are complete ass-holes and the government is obnoxious, highest taxed place on earth - 100% taxation. If you do anything in this life it should be to AVOID GOING TO URUGUAY.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 15:39 | 1106300 whoopsing
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looking at the latest flyover vid,the damage to #3 is amazing. Those wall's are prob. 12 - 16 " reinforced concrete just totally blown out-look close at all the rebar in there,blasted away.Also,@ 3.05 I see a toroid shaped structure on the upper floor's,leaning against an outside wall-is this the reactor itself? Anybody?

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:17 | 1106351 flattrader
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If this info graphic is correct--

Edit--I'd say outer steel containment vessel--even the painted color is similar to the infographic--orange/yellow--...and the fact that it's LEANING is alarming, no?

And I'm assuming those rod cooling pools for #3 are gone or badly damaged.

Yes, #3 is the one containing Plutonium

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:06 | 1106533 whoopsing
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Flattrader,I see the yellow containment structure with the top blown off,but as the camera pan's to the right,there is a bell-toroid shaped thing,kinda grayish that is outside the yellow structure that sorta fit's the description of the reactor itself.My question is,did this thing blow itself completely out of it's containment structure!Crazy,I know,either way time to call ready-mix,this bitch is a bust

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:55 | 1106662 flattrader
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OK Yeah. I see what you're referring to now.

It does look like the yellow painted steel containment vessel cap got blown off and to the opposite side.

The infographic, if correct, it doesn't contain another similarly shaped structure.

So, it appears that the steel containment cap blew off the reactor vessel?

I see something that looks like a concrete ring or neck?

This is a freakin' disaster.

They need to put another chopper in the air and focus on that reactor for more than a few seconds rather than pan back and forth.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:02 | 1106365 Rogerwilco
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Yeah, the force needed to blow out those reinforced walls was produced by steam, not a hydrogen fart explosion. With a smoldering, steaming mess like that, I can't believe they haven't reached the obvious conclusion and started burying these buildings. The Russians started tunneling below Chernobyl to seal off that leach path as well. Can the TEPCO officials be that clueless?

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:47 | 1106641 PhattyBuoy
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Suggest you replay the footage of #3 explosion ... you will see a large fireball at blast inception, which lifts the roof off.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:02 | 1106527 Rusty Shorts
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What's the "Yellow Dome" sitting in the corner at 2:50?

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:08 | 1106540 whoopsing
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It seem's to be the reactor containment Rusty

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:16 | 1106556 cranky-old-geezer
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Also,@ 3.05 I see a toroid shaped structure on the upper floor's,leaning against an outside wall-is this the reactor itself? Anybody?

It appears to be the top of the containment vessel, not the top of the reactor vessel.

And yes It appears to be a steam explosion not a hydrogen explosion.

Force of explosion at reactor #3 was mostly upward, sending heavy materials nearly 1000 feet in the air.  That's not a hydrogen explosion in my view.  it's a steam explosion out of the containment vessel, much like the top blowing off an overpressurized pressure cooker.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:47 | 1106647 PhattyBuoy
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Suggest you replay the footage of #3 explosion ... you will see a large fireball at blast inception, which lifts the roof off.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 18:42 | 1106798 malikai
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I can also confirm a yellow flamefront when #2 blew up. Which I still find difficult to consolidate considering hydrogen burns with a very pale blue flame.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:01 | 1106364 Cammy Le Flage
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This situation is bad. Anyone that says it is not bad is a fucking idiot. A mother fucking idiot. I vote all mother fucking idiots must immediately be moved to Fukushima prefect right now. All of them. None of them will go. Some might.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:11 | 1106497 Herman Strandsc...
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Looking at that video, you wouldn't want to be climbing through that rubble at the best of times let alone in a fat sumo suit with radiation all over. (When it comes to dismantling or removing the core components, etc, whatever they intend to do).

I don't know how anybody can keep saying the levels are low and relatively safe when the place was supposedly built so that no radiation leaked out, never so slightly?

And I'm sorry but the BBC isn't unbiased. It's a socialist/marxist propaganda organisation paid for under threat of imprisonment.

Herman Strand Schnecke

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:33 | 1106454 buzzsaw99
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Start the reactor. Free Mars.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:50 | 1106502 Cthonic
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Meantime, watching the rising beta background in Dallas, TX:

Let's see, common fission products that are beta emitters:

Sr-89, Sr-90, I-131, Cs-134, Cs-137



Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:52 | 1106505 foghorn longhorn
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The only thing for certain, is that when #3 took the bigshit, this thing has not been in control.

Project Extension Cord and Project Water Hose were the acts of desperate men. Look at the damn video just posted. #3 is FUCKED UP.

Having watched the early press conferences, when TEPCO was actually giving them, the reps looked like they were going to/ were on death row. But seeing as how they only had The Moe, Curly and Larry Cleaning Company, LLC., to clean up this shit, I can understand where they were coming from.

Whatever, flame away assholes. 

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:16 | 1106543 Threeggg
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Hey Foghorn,

I resemble that post man !

Me and my boy's clean nuclear waste pretty good when we have ziploc bags duct taped on our hands and feet. We didn't know our tennis shoes would get nuke water in them. In hindesight, we should have used Hefty bags on our feet.

I'm Insulted.........................................wait until I tell Moe and Larry what you said.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:17 | 1106557 Herman Strandsc...
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Foghorn meant what he said without any fear of contraception.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:25 | 1106573 foghorn longhorn
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On the plus side, one of my cows is having a baby. If it's a girl, I'll name her Fukushima Lucy.

If it's a boy, we'll call him Fukushima Cheeseburger.

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 16:58 | 1106514 buzzsaw99
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(Reuters) - There is no chance that highly radioactive water from reactor tubine buildings at Japan's stricken nuclear plant could flow into the sea, the country's Nuclear Safety Agency said on Sunday.

"Itt is inconceivable that this should happen. We think there is no chance of the stagnant water (in the buildings) flowing directly into the ocean," a senior agency official told a news briefing when asked about such a scenario...

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:07 | 1106538 Herman Strandsc...
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 Yeah, if you say so but where does the toilet overflow go- Presumably they have bogs' downstairs in those buildings?

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:01 | 1106524 whstlblwr
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Not sure if it's posted yet. Someone here said Greenpeace monitors daily.

Ha-ha, nver thought I'd be support of Greenpeace.

Our team of radiation specialists in Japan brought back their findings for the day.
The press release says it all:

Fukushima, March 27, 2011: Greenpeace radiation experts have confirmed radiation levels of up to ten micro Sieverts per hour in Iitate village, 40km northwest of the crisis-stricken Fukushima/Daiichi nuclear plant, and 20km beyond the official evacuation zone. These levels are high enough to require evacuation.

“It is clearly not safe for people to remain in Iitate, especially children and pregnant women, when it could mean receiving the maximum allowed annual dose of radiation in only a few days. When further contamination from possible ingestion or inhalation of radioactive particles is factored in, the risks are even higher.”

Sun, 03/27/2011 - 17:22 | 1106564 MSimon
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Since some one asked:


Radioactive Japan Then and Now


and don't forget tits:






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