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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:11 | 1333498 firstdivision
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What is the Groupon deal if I get 4 people to buy shares?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:39 | 1333628 What does it al...
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Well, just like the ipo, it will pop for the instutional guys and then settle lower.

Just like the deals they have.... all marked higher and the promised a 50% reduction... There is no one that would buy anything without a coupon for a repeat business.

This is definitely the beginning of a bubble.  Why don't we learn anything from Dot Com days.  There is no competitive advantage here, Rue La La, Living Social, Gilt...

It might take 2-3 months to sort out this party, but damn, it will make 2008 and 2001 looks like a party...  

Now is the time to figure out how to short/borrow/synthetically short these guys...  Even at 120% borrow rate for LNKD, shorting it was the right call.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:43 | 1333648 mikla
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:43 | 1333667 Cursive
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@Mikla

LOL. Sums it up. I mean a fucking fly by night glorified green stamps operation.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:54 | 1333700 andybev01
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"Green Stamps"...your age is showing.

 

But then again, so is mine.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:54 | 1333707 What does it al...
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They pulled the trigger the day after the biggest loss since Aug. 2010.  Just like a stop loss order, they don't want to miss the window when the S&P goes sub 1,000 or 800.. 

Seriously, at one point, YHOO is unbeatable... now, they allow you to login to their email using google accounts and/or Facebook... WTF...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:01 | 1333731 UGrev
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wtf is "Groupon" ? 

never heard of it until today, ironically, on Linked In.. lol 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:15 | 1333797 TruthInSunshine
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It's a lame ass, money losing (Tyler, I read GO lost 400 million last year) turd  of another 'hot' stock that is coming out just in time for a prelude to a mortal wound just like in 2000, when traders believed in Unicorns and Magic Pixie Dust with anything being pumped by the shysters.

Yes, sir, a bag full of LNKD, Group On, and some Chinese RINO and solar companies, and one will be set for life, living on the corner of Easy Street and Good Times Avenue, well into their retirement!

/sarc

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:53 | 1333704 Manthong
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Dipweeds should've taken the $6B buyout from Google.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:01 | 1333718 What does it al...
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That was pure hype from the IBers, never confirmed.  More like a 600M or 60M buy out.  Bear in mind, they were NEVER profitable.  Low barrier of entry.  And lack a repeatable business model.  

It's fine to buy a 50% coupon from them... but then again, I can do that from any one of its competitors... and I would never visit any of the businesses, without the subsidy.  (Just like the govt housing purchase tax breaks earlier this year...  only accelerate the demand curve forward, not generating new demand... )  Remember Kozmo?  Cyberrebate?  I can go on and on and on... 

 

We would never learn.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:06 | 1333748 Manthong
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Yep, not much of a unique selling proposition.

In the hype though, they claimed high seven figure revenue. Also about a billion in venture capital in. I, for the life of me couldn't figure out how they could swing all that. Like their long term business prospects, all smoke I guess.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:16 | 1333774 What does it al...
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Their revenue goes out the window as fast as they come in.  Thus net negative.

The real question is:  Why are the investment banks allow to decide who to "go public"?  Isn't that the exact definiton of oligopoly?  The entire capital raising process is flawed, it is all a casino...  

The Cabal decides on who to make rich.  Google instead of Altavista, Groupon instead of Rue La La, Facebook instead of MySpace.  EVERYTHING is rigged.

Here is where I applaud Craiglist...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:18 | 1333802 NotApplicable
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The IRS will take care of Craigslist, and those 'evil black markets.' Just you wait and see.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:29 | 1333837 dark pools of soros
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how will they fight bitcoins??  will be interesting

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:11 | 1333501 qussl3
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Fucking Top.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:18 | 1333539 magpie
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No, Facebook will be the top.
But by then, you'll gladly buy EU and China Sovbonds anyway.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:18 | 1333560 qussl3
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facebook is everywhere, pervasive like google.

It demands huge attention from a good chunk of its user.

Groupon is a fucking clown party discount service.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:47 | 1333680 Cleanclog
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Agree.  I would buy Facebook, depending on terms, but Groupon - no way!  Ditto for Ruelala and Jewelmint and the rest of these easy to copy yet quick to have margins knocked down quite quickly.  FB more difficult to recreate.  A huge community exists there with real driving power.  Tumblr not so much, but still better than Groupon, Linkedin, Ruelala etc.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:12 | 1333503 Robot Traders Mom
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I'm actually getting kind of excited for the ponzi scheme that is our financial system, to end...

Although you can never tell when it will end, this all but confirms it.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:09 | 1333507 shushup
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It's crap - wouldn't touch it. Not would I even look for their groupons.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:11 | 1333517 Cleanclog
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In San Francisco Bay Area, the daily Groupon opportunities by email have been 1) Lame; 2) coached companies to run their prices up for month preceeding the "featured" 1/2 off or whatever Groupon promotion; 3) needs better partners - targeted Twitter, other social media that really knows where person is and then offers "deals" right in front of them.

My two cents.  Still, the fools will pile on and soar the deal before it gets pricked and drops.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:16 | 1333547 chet
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Google is already shopping it's coupon service around.

Low barrier to entry for these internet companies.  You have to race like hell to be the first and biggest and hope to get established.  Worked for some like Amazon.  Failed for others like MySpace and AltaVista and countless others no one even remembers.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:17 | 1334001 Mikebrah
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Lets be fair here....Google and Facebook respectively killed Altavista and MySpace.  While I wouldn't touch the GRPN stock, or even Facebook if/when it IPOs there is no denying that Google is/was a far, far superior search engine than Altavista.  That is why it got so popular in the first place, remember?

 

Same with Facebook.  It originated with college kids and was initially exclusively for that demographic.  This created a huge, legitimate network that created enough self-sustaining momentum and kept it on the legitimate track.  MySpace was open to any ass-clown with a computer and it rapidly turned into a sketchy, pedophile hotspot. 

 

Again, I'm not debating the stock valuations of any of the abovementioned companies but to suggest it was all a total fluke is inaccurate.  Google was amazingly simple and intuitive.  Facebook, same thing plus it felt "safe" to its users (although it most likely isn't).  These were deliberate marketing ploys.  Google still looks the same as it did 10 years ago.  It's the most simple, yet highly functional search out there. 

 

Just my $.02

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:47 | 1334077 chet
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I don't think it was a fluke.  But I think that both AltaVista and MySpace show how internet companies are always vulnerable to someone coming along and doing it better.

It could happen to Google or Facebook too.   Though Google has so much money and market share now that they set a high bar to overcome.

But Facebook may be just as vulnerable as MySpace.  There could be a guy named Zark Muckerberg writing code in a dorm room right now.  That's why they shouldn't have these ridiculous valuations.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 20:39 | 1334465 Mikebrah
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Truth.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:42 | 1333643 Dingleberry Jones
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Cleanclog, what is the source image for your icon? It's fantastic.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:49 | 1333679 Cursive
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And who is that? Chin is reminescent of Cybil Sheppard.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:52 | 1333688 Cleanclog
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You are all too flattering.  Photographer is a friend.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:12 | 1333761 Cursive
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Bet that's an interesting portfolio. :)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:48 | 1333898 Dingleberry Jones
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Wait, are you saying that it's you? Regardless, it's a ridiculously impressive picture.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:52 | 1334826 longorshort
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You really are a stupid fucktard. Folks read this as work and your not just showing cleavage there. We have enough unemployed people in the economy and do not need pictures of your fat ass adding to it.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:36 | 1334812 longorshort
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You know dumbfuck, take some of your coupon money and buy some clothes for your profile. Does anyone look at this shit here WTF.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:11 | 1333519 sabra1
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buy, and then short immediatly!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:20 | 1333566 TheTmfreak
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Don't want to be the 122 dollar LNKD guy.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:12 | 1333522 chet
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Hey, there's a whole new generation of traders on Wall Street and off that don't even remember 1999.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:28 | 1333843 dark pools of soros
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exactly.  load up the truck with some Z and P coming later this year!!!   One letter NAZ stocks are all the rage!!!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:15 | 1333523 buzzsaw99
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With a growth rate like that you gotta be a buyer bitchez!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:12 | 1333525 XenoFrog
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Buy! buy! buy! *frothing at the mouth*

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:12 | 1333527 TooBearish
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TY- Is this gunna be priced tonite???  thx

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:16 | 1333533 lizzy36
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SHOW ME THE MONEY before QE2 ends....quickly.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:32 | 1333613 Bam_Man
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Yup.

This might be the last chance to fleece the retail crowd for quite a while.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:39 | 1333646 chet
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Just like the dotcom days.  Build up just enough of a something to take it public.  The founders become very rich, don't give a crud if the company is still around in two years.  The IPO is the target, not a sustainable company.

I agree that time is very short for this round of nonsense.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:18 | 1333541 rumblefish
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another wtf stock.

go figure....LKND is up and silver is down.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:18 | 1333562 RobotTrader
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"Social Media" is the next bubble to be blown by Wall St. to create yet another frenzy.

Silver bubble already popped, it might re-emerge later this year.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:38 | 1333572 rumblefish
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i don't believe sound money is in a bubble mr.robot.

I do believe market dillusion is beyond bubbles.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:44 | 1333672 Bay of Pigs
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Once a bubble is popped, it doesn't "re-emerge", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

Silver and gold are the opposite of a bubble Robot Fader.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:33 | 1333850 dark pools of soros
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Robot blows bubbles outta his rear unit

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:20 | 1333549 JW n FL
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I am gonna buy it...

 

and hold it....

 

and name it george...

 

and Love it...

 

and pet it...

 

and keep it forever....

 

buy early and get the fuck out! and then buy back in after the fall.. as coupons? may have a following in the near future that is even stronger that it has now!

 

 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:53 | 1333693 Sokhmate
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ANother better name for it would be Stinky, a la Stimpy's infamous fart.

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