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Guardian Reports Core At Reactor 2 May Have Melted To Concrete Floor, Radioactive Lava Next?
And another update from Fukushima on its route to the concrete dome, irradiated ground water, and a 100 km "no live zone" from the Guardian:
The radioactive core in a reactor at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant appears to have melted through the bottom of its containment vessel and on to a concrete floor, experts say, raising fears of a major release of radiation at the site.
The warning follows an analysis by a leading US expert of radiation levels at the plant. Readings from reactor two at the site have been made public by the Japanese authorities and Tepco, the utility that operates it.
Richard Lahey, who was head of safety research for boiling-water reactors at General Electric when the company installed the units at Fukushima, told the Guardian workers at the site appeared to have "lost the race" to save the reactor, but said there was no danger of a Chernobyl-style catastrophe.
Workers have been pumping water into three reactors at the stricken plant in a desperate bid to keep the fuel rods from melting down, but the fuel is at least partially exposed in all the reactors.
At least part of the molten core, which includes melted fuel rods and zirconium alloy cladding, seemed to have sunk through the steel "lower head" of the pressure vessel around reactor two, Lahey said.
"The indications we have, from the reactor to radiation readings and the materials they are seeing, suggest that the core has melted through the bottom of the pressure vessel in unit two, and at least some of it is down on the floor of the drywell," Lahey said. "I hope I am wrong, but that is certainly what the evidence is pointing towards."
The good news is that the next step will not be a Chernobyl type explosion, or so the GE expert believes, but a far more "benign" radioactive lava escalation.
The major concern when molten fuel breaches a containment vessel is that it reacts with the concrete floor of the drywell underneath, releasing radioactive gases into the surrounding area. At Fukushima, the drywell has been flooded with seawater, which will cool any molten fuel that escapes from the reactor and reduce the amount of radioactive gas released.
Lahey said: "It won't come out as one big glob; it'll come out like lava, and that is good because it's easier to cool."
The drywell is surrounded by a secondary steel-and-concrete structure designed to keep radioactive material from escaping into the environment. But an earlier hydrogen explosion at the reactor may have damaged this.
So you see: there is no reason to worry, and it is everyone's patriotic duty to BTFD as the "QE3 on - QE3 off" daily speculation reaches a schizophrenic crescendo.
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Dude, take a pill. We're all trying to figure the MF thing out.
At least I am transparent.
I'm not. I'm opaque.
told ya to keep that head down lol.
The only evidence we had of primary breach was the pressure sitting at 1 ATM for a duration
You are probably right.:)
"Unfortunately, robots do not exist to do the work that would have to be done inside"
Actually the robots DO exist... But they're busy bidding up S&P futures & can't be spared... Sorry :-(
If TEPCO confirms that this melt-through has occurred, is it likely that the Vienna-based int'l. nuclear organization will raise its disaster rating from 5 to 6?
Dammit. I've been asking over and over again why the Japanese government hasn't taken control of the situation and brought in the millitary.
Seriously, what are the options now? As I understand the situation, which I admit isn't that great, now anyone's ability to get close to cooling this material will be extrmeley limited due to.....welll..um....death. Is it just a ticking bomb now till the fizzy material hits the water table below the concrete?! WTF?!
And dear christ this is only one reactor, now the other five are going to follow suit because noone will be alive long enough to look after the others.
No doubt I am getting drunk tonight.
sunrise in fukushima. Livecam shows nothing unusaul at the moment. But u never know...
the livecam shows of course not, what is going on inside the reactors. Only sometimes u can see white smoke over the nuclear plant - but only occasionally
Webcam Fukushima
http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/etc/7479-webcam-fukushima
Well you can sure see it fuming now (11:00 local I think).
Looks like a fairly large plume to me. I suspect that with the right equipment it would look like a roman candle in strong wind.
Radio active lava? Move along, nothing to see here. Just don't hoard the bottled water.
Exactly what I've been wondering: how is the radioactivity at the lower levels of the building burning through the building materials. Sorta like can the clean up take all the destruction and drop it into the nearest reactor fire and burn up the refuse.
I think the press releases from TEPCO must be ordered by 1. Saving face. 2. Letter of the law. 3. Spirit of the law.
HUGE PLUTONIUM LEAKAGE SEA & LAND
Arnie Gundersen – Chief Nuclear Engineer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOvgm8LBIfw
He has a few other very informative videos as well.
FWIW
Great clip, baby.
Thanks.
Forward these Google Earth coordinates to Arnie.
37°14'9.84"N 141° 1'1.18"E
37°18'58.88"N 141° 1'35.93"E
37°25'16.24"N 141° 2'2.36"E
37°39'57.90"N 141° 1'13.81"E
37°50'34.24"N 140°56'50.70"E
38°19'5.02"N 141° 4'24.06"E
Thanks for the clip.
Arnie Gundersen is the go to guy on this. He's been the most accurate and lays everything out with no bullshit.
Focus this morning in Japanese press seems to be the working conditions ( or lack of them).
This was interesting from Kyodo.
Amid increasing fears of workers being exposed to high levels of radiation at the plant, hospitals in Tokyo called on the workers to provide samples of their blood-forming hematopoietic stem cells ahead of possible massive exposure....
Apparently this works better than bone marrow transplants but when they want your stem cells before you go to work... well, what does that tell you about your long term survival chances?
I don't understand why there still seems to be so much guesswork about the state of the cores.
Surely at any nuclear power plant there are huge quantities of sophisticated instrumentation giving the operators information about the status of each core - and particularly whether there has been a partial or full breach of containment.
So why do TEPCO keep using the expressions 'may' or 'possibly' when describing the status of the cores? Do they know more than they are letting on - or after 18 days do they still have no clear idea of what is actually happening inside the reactors?
I realise that a lot of instrumentation was disabled by the earthquake/tsunami and subsequent power loss. But power was supposedly restored to all reactors over a week ago - and TEPCO are still guessing. WTF?
The whole thing is a heap of debris.
I can't understand how TEPCO is even still in charge over there. The Japanese govt, and the international community, should have stepped in a long time ago and kicked them the hell out.
Let's just hope the nuclear waste doesn't run into the underground waterways and makes its way into the islands water supply.
Bahh!
Here's another depressing take on what's in store.
http://www.temasekreview.com/2011/03/30/when-the-fukushima-meltdown-hits-groundwater/
Next stop: sea level (along with lots of radioactive steam)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOvgm8LBIfw
HUGE PLUTONIUM LEAKAGE LAND & SEA - Japan Fukushima Nuclear Reactor Meltdown
http://www.youtube.com/user/playbacklapompe
Nuclear Alert! FUKUSHIMA MELTDOWN STARTED!
one man's statement. 3/29/2011 from tokyo.
excellent.
god I love the french, the best complainers on the planet
When using atomic fission, there is no room for critical mistakes and there is no turning back, we've rolled the dice and "snake eyes" have come up - end of story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4
I dunno you guys.
The way Tepco has lied, omitted, and obfuscated its way through the past 3 weeks has made me feel that there is a high probability that whatever Tepco says, the situation is likely twice as bad.
I honestly hope I'm wrong. But if I'm right?
Plus it is still developing....
Stay tuned.
This I shall do, my friend. : )
"twice as bad"?
Don't forget a TEPCO 'puddle' = 5 feet deep.
More like 10 to 20 times as bad as they say.
Question:
Assuming one of the reactors is in meltdown, what will stop it? Will it cool at some point? If so when? And what is to stop the fuel from emlting though the concrete pad (as was the worry with Chernobyl)?
Is there sucha thing as a temporary meltdown?
I know jack-diddle about nuclear power generation, but from what I have gathered over the past 3 weeks these are the answers, generally speaking:
1. Assuming one of the reactors is in meltdown, what will stop it?
Boron, sand, lead, luck, and approximately 40,000 lives is what it took at Chernobyl, and they actually didn't stop it. They just entombed it. That meltdown continues, so...
2. Will it cool at some point? If so when?
Yes, it will. Most estimates put the figure in the tens of thousands of years.
3. And what is to stop the fuel from emlting though the concrete pad (as was the worry with Chernobyl)?
Arguments run both ways on this question, and it should be noted that Fukushima sits on bedrock rather than sand as Chernobyl did. Best answer I can give you is, cross your fingers.
4. Is there such a thing as a temporary meltdown?
All meltdowns are temporary. See #2
I did watch The True Battle of Chernobyl which as I understood it, explained that (at some point after containment) the nuclear lava pool condensed and cooled and as of now is a solid mass that is entombed and still highly radiocative. They covered it up on top with sand, and later lead (to help absorb some or the heat and bring the temp down) but then I believe they hastily built a container around it. It seems to me that is what they will have to resort to at the leaking Fukushima reactor. Try to bring the temp down (at this point on the fuel pooling under the containment vessel) and eventually entomb it as well.
This is exactly why we have to give up nuclear power. Sure these events (only) happen every 25 years but when they do, they make vast areas uninhabitable for hundreds of years. PLUS, the container at Chernobyl is leaking and they are worried about it collapsing. They have a plan to build a new containment vessel that would last (supposedly) 100 years at a cost of 2 billion dollars. They can't seem to come up with the money btw. I read the US amd UK are suposed to be chipping in.
The radioactive material inside the Chernobyl plant is said to be deadly for thousands of years! So every time we have to build a containment vessel it is not a one time thing. Each generation will have to come up with the money to bury our mistakes over and over and over......This is crazy!!
yeah civilizations always come and go, so what happens if we devovle a bit, say our electics get taken out for a time by solar flare, say 50 years from now...how many nuke messes does that leave. Time to turn them off and bury fuel in pieces all over somewhere least bad.
We must remember, Chernobyl was not 300 feet from the ocean. So will a lead and cement cap work? My answer is no, not very well. When you seek a place with a great source of water, guess what, you have a place with a great source of water. Steam pressure can push the earth aside. As long as the intense heat exists. radioactive steam will be created.
Not to mention even if they seal the reactors, they are still sitting on top of one of the most active earthquake fault lines in the world. How stupid can you get?
Is it time to buy Cemex yet?
JUST HAD A HORRID THOUGHT:
So, a ship from California that was near Japan for a few hours was refused docking in China due to elevated radiation readings.
Now.... What happens with ships from China get contaminated on the way HERE????? Will our ports IGNORE radiated ships and allow them to dock? Will product from China become contaminated? My question is lets say the reverse will happen. What would this mean for the economy and our relationship with CHina? Would we IGNORE the radiation so as to not strain our economic relationship?????
yes.
You want walmart to close?
hey this is good,maybe we can get our outsource jobs back...call it the radiation tarrif
hey this is good,maybe we can get our outsource jobs back...call it the radiation tarrif
As per the Chernobyl video posted on this site several days ago, where the heavy, radioactive magma went through the bottom of the reactor... althought the Russians were able to build a concrete bunker under the reactor to keep it from getting into the Ukrainian water table. They indeed will have to encase these things in sarchophogi, like the Chernobyl reactor. There should be an international effort to do this immediately, why there isn't, I have no idea.
Chernobyl also dumped concrete and other things on the reactor. But if they did on these, as i understand, the concrete would explode. It is too hot to do this. And no way to tunnel at sea level like that.
They can't seal off the reactor untill they fuel begins to cool. As they did with Chernobyl, they have to cover the fuel with lead to absorb the heat so they don't entomb a hot reactor.
I think.
They are really screwed now because some of the fuel has leaked out and is contaminating the environment, while some is still contained in the stainless steel vessel. By the time they get each reactor cool enough to bury the environment will be highly contaminated. This is not like 1986 in Russia where you could order thousands of reservists to go and expose themselves to high radioactivity. Back then they did not fully understand the danger. Now we do.
+1
Let us move to the positive!
There will be over 500,000 displaced Japanese. Many are seniors with excellent pensions.
There is nowhere for these people to move to on their island.
There are many vacant homes in the United States.
I see a win/win situation with a great humanitarian spin.
Before this is over, 50 million will be displaced ... imo.
long home-builders, then, huh? just like boyz & girlz on TV said....
... 50 million . in the US that is.
C'mon. serious?
- just my opinion friend.
Genghis Frikking Khan tried to displace the Japanese people once. His fleet ended up at the bottom of the Sea of Japan.
I know it does not look great so far -- but if I had to bet on any people on Earth to protect their country, I would bet on the Japanese.
They just need to realize that they are under attack.
I am in agreement with your estimation of the Japanese people. But, Ghengis Kahn on his best day, could never claim that his forces would continue their attack for 80,000 years, bottom of the harbor or not.
just sayin....
"They just need to realize that they are under attack."
With the small complication that they are effectively under attack by their own government, via its dishonest and incompetent handling of a national crisis, forced muzzling of the media, and complete failure to face reality.
Let's see if Japanese do any better than Americans in a somewhat similar fix.
A preliminary cost estimate. 360 B (usd) The GDP of Planet Earth is ? 11-14 T
Bleeding hearts will let them all in and unemployment will rise to 40%...with these new imports taking most of the jobs.
You sound like you have a house for sale . . .
Aerial photo taken by a private photography company. Fukushima plant in bright sunlight.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/fukushima-i-nuke-plant-aerial-photo.html
Darn it! Where's the hi-res version?
And if you ever wondered why the Japanese media have been not too critical of TEPCO, here's part of the reason why:
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/7-electric-power-companies-sit-on-boa...
Each reactor is able to supply enough power for a small city of 10,000 people for a year or more before fuel is spent. Imagine that available power condensed into an area of about 20 feet x 20 feet x 3 foot with no overload, pedal to metal. To think that there is any way to stop the reaction is rediculous. The mass will super heat eventually and burn its way into the underlying rock till it finds water. Once in water it will create a superheated steam explosion that will take out the remaining 5 reactors. The genie is out of the bottle and there is nothing to be done except exit stage left.
don't worry. they have "50 workers on the case" to prevent just that.
Meteorologists: Radioactive cloud is expected to reach Tokyo again on Wednsday. Forecast of radioactive fall out for coming days and real time radiation in Tokyo (german site with intersting graphics and meters)
http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/etc/7580-atomwolke-treibt-auf-tokio
And officials at Chiba water district sat on the sample for 7 days before they finally decided to send for analysis for iodine 131. People are saying water never tasted better last week.
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/03/7-electric-power-companies-sit-on-boa...
Chiba is doomed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neB4JLtX6tM
who owns the mortage on this fixer-upper property with the slightly messed up floor?
When the entire earth is reduced to a smoking crater, there will be one surviving cockroach hammering out a positive spin on his i-doodad so that his hatchling larvae can buy the fucking dip.
I was thinking more along the lines of a glow in the dark squid...
We now have the Continuity of Trading programs in place so that, in case of an Extinction Level Event, the HFT algos will still be able to buy and sell from each other, exchanging trillions of shares per day, while, high above their computer-filled caverns, the blackened Earth slowly cools.
It's beautiful.
SkyNet + Matrix waiting for the Micro-organisms to evolve....good Zelazny plot!
Another piece of speculation from someone outside of Japan. Theories for the leak of radiation from reactor 2 centre on two possibilities: steam is flowing from the core into the reactor housing and escaping through cracks, or the contaminated material is leaking from the damaged walls of the water-filled pressure control pool beneath the No 2 reactor.
The truth will out. And who will be prepared to admit they were wrong?
Few will admit, but they are damned if they do and damned if they don't. They want to cool the reactor and keep the reactor cool, so they have to pour water in. But there is a major leak in the containment vessels, and that water keeps leaking out. So they have a problem where the more they try to cool it down, the greater the radiation hazard as that water leaks out from the plant.
Mr. Market must believe that Gamera will awaken from the bottom of the sea, and plop his jet-propelled ass on the troubled reactors. No problem! Funny how oil over $100 was cause for a selloff, Japan cause for selloff, MENA cause for selloff, etc... and yet we are a stone's throw away from the recent highs with all of these issues still in play. To witness such wreckless ignorance in these markets is breathtaking... The exit door to get out before the end of QE2 is narrowing...
QE2 is ending? shit, I must have been asleep at the wheel
The markets will not respond until Tokyo sees major civil unrest and evacuations. Central banks are printing until printing no longer works. Get ready for $8 gas within 12 months IMO.
And the Nikkei rallies at the open.
Just think of how positive the clean-up will be for Japanese GDP.
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In a statement released today, Rael, leader and founder of the International Raelian Movement, had harsh words for those making war in Libya. "Shouldn't a Nobel Peace Prize recipient like Obama have the honesty to return his prize after leading this attack on Libya and killing the civilians he claimed to protect?" he asked, adding that leaders of the world's major powers "are once again proving that they're afflicted with profound mental confusion."
"While 300,000 homeless people desperately wait for relief in Japan and a nuclear power plant pollutes the entire planet with radiation that will cause millions of deaths, they're using their technical means and their billions to bomb Libya," he said. "If all the ships and funds turned into smoke by this illegal aggression against an independent state were to be used in Japan, it would, for the first time, point out some usefulness of the military forces and show real solidarity with the civilians who suffer."
wow! Something that makes a lot of sense! I thought the only reason to join the raelians was because they believe in having lots of sex with everyone.
A new photo of the last three reactors, taken by a drone airplane........
A never seen before perspective, and sadly, one that shows no good news.
http://www.asahi.com/national/update/0330/TKY201103290527.html
I'll let the experts decode the image....
Geological situation in Gabon leading to natural nuclear fission reactors
1. Nuclear reactor zones
2. Sandstone
3. Uranium ore layer
4. Granite
A natural nuclear fission reactor is a uranium deposit where analysis of isotope ratios has shown that self-sustaining nuclear chain reactions have occurred. The existence of this phenomenon was discovered in 1972 at Oklo in Gabon, Africa, by French physicist Francis Perrin. The conditions under which a natural nuclear reactor could exist had been predicted in 1956 by Paul Kuroda.[1] The conditions found were very similar to what was predicted.
Oklo is the only known location for this in the world and consists of 16 sites at which self-sustaining nuclear fission reactions took place approximately 2 billion years ago, and ran for a few hundred thousand years, averaging 100 kW of power output during that time
Here's a good article on Oklo from Scientific American
- http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=ancient-nuclear-reactor
just your dionarap.
c'mon japanese people get off your a-holes and get angry...you are getting played by the worst govt this side of Obama
Rather than get angry they are going to brainstorm and fix the problem. It would be nice if the rest of the world would give it a rest for awhile. nothing si going to get resloved by getting angry. Just look at the Middle East. We western nations are civilized. We brainstorm, not stir up the sh*tstorm.
There's an assembly of control rods immediately underneath the reactor core. But nobody sees this. Its all about the magical water.
If its true that a core meltdown occurred and the lava burned through the floor, then it would pour over the control rods like wax.
The control rods would not have actuated if the water had come out of the entire hydraulics system (including the core) after the plant was abandoned during the earthquake.
#3 is for sure a meltdown, #2 is one in progress, the other two will have to be allowed to melt.
There is very little information about the control rods, because its an obvious liability.
Voice of America today: "U.S. nuclear officials said Tuesday that Japan's troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is slowly being brought under control after a deadly earthquake and tsunami led to at least a partial meltdown of three of the station's reactors."
Somebody who gets it ... !!
Phew
Got the "all clear" from TEPCO
Nothing to worry about, just a few particulares out of place.
Plutonium is nothing to worry about. We all have that from the nuke tests, so we are just getting uncontrolled amounts of it, not even something to think about.
If it(plutonium) ends up in your food...well, it would have been there anyway. This is all completely normal.
It's all backround noise. I just want to make it clear that no one can die from plutonium exposure of any kind. If you get some in your lungs or stomach DON'T panic, this is normal. It all occurs in nature (like in the sun) so don't even think twice.
Just borrow more money and it will be fine.
-Ben Bernanke
p.s who wants a DOW @ 30,000? I know I do!
We have some guys who claim to be experts in nuclear energy and material sciences and they sneer condescendingly at posts that suggest we concrete the fucker up. If the rods have already melted then we are not going to be circulating cooling water through there. It will just get contaminated. partially or fully melted cores have only one viable solution. Concrete and boron. Any of you so called materials science and nuclear experts want to dispute this conclusion that there is any other way to deal with a melted core?
Potentially, you could circulate water until it finally cools. Theoretically. Contamination of circulated water is not a huge deal if it is closed-loop circulation. Just an option.
any equipment and pipes that come into contact with that water will be contaminated. How are you going to insulate the pies to keep radiation from contaminating the plants, yet keep the pipes all visible so that you can detect leaks quickly? It just doesn't sound viable to have a jury rigged closed loop recirculating cooling system, but it might work temporarily while they are trying to figure out how to entomb it. It looks like this is a permanent emergency for the next 1000 years. Great.
Well, radioactive contamination does not penetrate pipe walls (unless you have leaks), only radiation, which is transient. BWRs circulate contaminated water through the turbines as a matter of course....that is why the turbines are shielded.
isn't all that salt and plutonium corrosive? I guess they are going to be replacing the pipes frequently. BWR's circulate contaminated water, but not corrosive salt laden water full of plutonium and other radioactive oxides.
Please calm down. People with more expertise than anyone here are actually at the site working to cure the problem.
More than just I would assert that has yet be proven. Frankly, I've known meth addicts who could stack bee bees with their toes after a 4 day run better than these assholes at Tepco have managed so far.
wtf?
Salt is certainly corrosive, especially at elevated temps. Plutonium in itself is not especially corrosive in an aqueous matrix in the absence of dissolved oxygen. This can get complicated, and depends on valent states an so on, but in distilled water, Plutonium does not readily oxidize.
It sounds to me from a laymen's perspective that they will do everything within there power to continue to cool this mess forever if that's what it takes rather than pour concrete. Burying it that close to the ocean doesn't make much sense. This is a problem that has no quick or easy solution. Bare in mind I am not an expert but common sense tells me this is going to be a long term disaster operation.
there has to be something they can mix with boron that won't melt and could be used for a floor of the tomb. Otherwise we have a permanent emergency in japan with no end. If they don't entomb it then we are looking at radiation leaks and risks of serious world wide radiation poisoning for decades if not centuries. This would truly be a long emergency.
How many cores have melted?
How many SFPs have melted?
How many of them are "partial"
We are talking about 6 reactors in trouble.
When was the last time we saw real footage of all 6 reactors (and the time of that footage)?
Furthermore, what are the radiation levels? the type of radiation levels? and the location of previously undisclosed (under survey) levels?
I'd also like to know the rate of change in radiation levels (near the reactors) since the accident occured though I doubt I will ever see any type of real data.
We are sorry but that information is restricted to people not named 'bob'.
For further pointless efforts doomed to futility please dial the MorganSachs Global Elite Help Temple at +011-800-NOT-POOR and wait for your net worth to be felt by the Psionic Overlord Underling in the call center.
And wait.............................................................................
Midnight Sun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3o4Y9N2KeE&feature=related
Well at least, when they back fill those 1-6 Bitches. The Tsunami wall will be up to specs for (Dr. Moreau's) House of genetics!
Management by madness.
I am really pissed at the japanese. If the cores are partially melted then there is no solution but entombment. the fact that most of the radiation will drift west over the pacific seems to be the reason why they haven't been in a rush. I sure hope those winds turn. There is no solution but entombment to a partially or fully melted core. The sooner they do it the sooner we can put the risk behind us.
Bloomberg:
Tokyo Electric's Damaged Reactors May Take 30 Years, $12 Billion to Scrap
I think that is the optimist scenario
Guaranteed:
Radiation impact on the US will be far greater than anyone "anticipated", simply adding to carcino-cocktail here. Someone from Harvard will document a spike in cancer levels in study written in 2014.
With again the country focused on the Middle East, none question why we have not taken control of the situation and solved it i.e. demand that we concrete the sight - I don't give a shit whether that had to be done by B52s at 3000 feet. Again, $1 trillion a year in "Defense" and no one understands the concept of truly protecting its citizens. Read the first few pages of the 911 report if you don't know what the fuck I am talking about..
FOX heads will be confused as to how to blame Obama for this disaster as they are such blind followers of, its appears, any destructive energy source - be it fracking poisoners, oil lovers, or nuke freaks. Fuck you all by the way.
The Obama kids have been kept strictly indoors and Ms. is looking for an excuse to visit Brazil... that's the story folks... now STFU... cuz its a Madhouse....
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Shaw to Assist Toshiba in Providing Support Services at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant
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"The people of Japan have experienced an extraordinary tragedy. It is our hope that Shaw's nuclear, remediation and emergency response expertise will assist in bringing prompt resolution and relief to the situation at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station," said J.M. Bernhard Jr., Shaw's chairman, president and chief executive officer. "Our relationship with Toshiba spans the globe. We are ready to help our partners and friends in their response to the events that resulted from this unprecedented natural disaster."
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Maximum alert, maximum alert...
Japan on ’maximum alert’ over nuclear crisishttp://www.smh.com.au/environment/japan-on-maximum-alert-over-nuclear-cr...
Where the fuck is Godzilla when you need him?
How about Noriega? He's a Maximum Leader. May be the only one with his certificate framed.
Is "OUR" EPA trying to pull a Japan on us. ??
EPA is trying to drastically raise the levels of radiation allowed in food, water, air, and the general environment. (Dontworryaboutit)
Just so you know the next time you here the phrase.
"Radiation Discovered at levels far below the threashold to effect human health"
The new standards will result in a “nearly 1000-fold increase for exposure to strontium-90, a 3000 to 100,000-fold hike for exposure to iodine-131; and an almost 25,000 rise for exposure to radioactive nickel-63” in drinking water
http://theintelhub.com/2011/03/28/epa-to-help-mainstream-media-obscure-the-truth-about-radiation-exposure-to-americans/
The EPA is just as diligent as the SEC is.
We are screwed.
FWIW to anyone interested, here is the source material from Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER), with quite a few links to (apparently) EPA data/statements:
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=1325
From what I can tell, these have been in the works for several years"
"On a long enough time line anything with a half-life will fade to undetectable levels..."
KYODO: Radioactive iodine found in seawater near Fukushima plant - more than 3000 times legal limit. Highest level yet.
I am not worried at all. The reactors are working as designed. That's what the concrete floor is for. The concrete won't melt. I will go long Denison Mines at 2.3- and be strong. God bless the japanese. They are better than anyone at fixing anything.
A cloth,,right
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/03/81894.html
Gov't mulling new steps to bring Fukushima nuke plant under controlTOKYO, March 30, Kyodo
The government is considering applying new measures to prevent the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant from further spreading radioactive particles, its top spokesman said Wednesday.
Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told a news conference that the government and nuclear experts are discussing ''every possibility'' to bring the plant under control and that some measures that have been reported by the media are included in their options.
Media reports said that the government and the experts have been studying the feasibility of new steps such as covering reactors of the plant with special cloth to reduce the amount of radioactive particles flying away from the facility and using a big tanker to collect the contaminated water.
Since the March 11 earthquake and ensuing tsunami damaged the nuclear plant, Tokyo Electric Power Co. and the government have been battling to cool its overheating reactors.
As a stopgap, while they spend 30 years abandoning the reactors.
Bring it on
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KYODO: Radioactive iodine found in seawater near Fukushima plant - more than 3000 times legal limit. Highest level yet.
I keep hearing about the "1000 millisievert/h" radiation level, but are people aware of this:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471904576229854179642220.html
um... are the authorities not handing out geiger counters with higher measuring limits because they are afraid of what they will find, or are they not wanting people to know?
You know, it's a moral booster. I mean having a guy see that the actual rate of radiation will kill him in a month is just such a bummer for the crew...and the neighborhood...and the city...and Tokyo, too.
Anyway, the government is getting very busy raising the allowable exposure limit to take care of your concern. The regulators are totally on this thing...so not to worry about a gajillion millisieverts an hour or such stuff.
Yeah, we had been wondering if the dosimeters were just redlined. 1,000 certainly is a nice round number.
Thanks for the confirmation.
What if this Melts a Hole all the way to the other side of the Earth?
What's on the other side? California?
Here
58°25'43.38"S 26°21'49.11"W
google earth
You are one helpful dude. lol....
Beijing! We should be soo lucky. Where are China and Russia? Licking my BUNG hole from that barrel of Siberian putin goat piss!
The biggest con-Job the markets have seen in a long time, BoJ melt-ups of stocks and sell on the YEN. thanks to teh FED providing cheap USD's as the market starts to price in further QE's
C'mon China make Bill Gross proud
Nuked in Fukushima
Most people have no fucking idea what they are dealing with !
A friend of mine who is a physicist told me "it's not so bad" and that Radiation is Radiation and brushed me off like I was stupid and the whole thing was just a media beat up and that radiation was everywhere. Now I am no nuclear physicist but here is how I see this:
There are 3 types of Radiation,
1) External Radiation you get from a chest X-Ray or Radiation from the sun,
when you get sunburned after having been to the beach...etc...
You can walk away from that and after a while you most probably recover without
too many health risks or problems.
2) Internal Radiation you get from any of various radioactive substances
ingesting the radioactive substance into your system in a controlled way
like low-dose radiation of a controlled amount and type of a radio-active substance
with a limited life-time of radioactivity, as in cancer treatment for example,
or the potassium Radiation from eating a Banana,which won't kill you.
3) Internal Radiation poisoning by breathing in contaminated dust or air or ingesting radioactive substance by eating contaminated Food like Milk, Salad or Fish that contains radioactive elements like caesium 137 or radioactive Iodine or traces of plutonium
or any other toxic radioactive elements that are by-products from nuclear reaction ,fission or fusion. If a tiny substance of radioactive material like caesium-137 with a half life of 30 years or Plutonium with a half-life of 80 million years gets into your system,it will sit there and radiate a fucking hole into your head, your Thyroid, poison your blood by radiating and destroying your cells molecular structure ,breaking down the very atomic nucleus of your cells, the molecular structure of your very DNA until you are fucking cooked and dead like last Sunday's roasted duck. You will die by what you call Cancer of the Thyroid, Cancer of the bone marrow, Cancer of the blood or Leukemia, the Lung, the brain or any other so-called Cancer you can imagine in you worst nightmare.
Cancer is the destruction and break-down of the atomic molecular structure of living cells.
What better way to be euthanized than by the long-term bombardment with highly radio-active neutrons ?
This is my understanding of what is happening in Fukushima
and that is enough for me to realize that
the nuclear Industry including TEPCO and the whole Japanese Government
have all gone fucking insane.
Those brave man that wade around in highly contaminated water are dead men walking
and everyone fucking knows it.
So if you read this, and you are a Nuclear Physicist then you might
be able to explain to me what the fuck is going on !
But so far I have heard nothing but Bullshit from TEPCO
and that incompetent Japanese Government
who endanger the very People they are there to protect.
My advise to Goldman Sachs: Move your office to Fukushima, together with TEPCO and the whole of the Japanese Government. Move right into Reactor 3 , the one with the Plutonium Mox - fuel , that way you all can get real nice and cosy this Spring,
while the concrete around your feet melts like lava...
incompetent fucking idiots, the lot of ya -
You all deserve to be Nuked in Fukushima!
CONGRATULATIONS....YOU WON!!
THIS IS NOT A JOKE.
You know, I thought this thread would be kind of useless but it turned out really great.
Thanks everyone.
The dreaded "tarist" must be thinking "gee, great time to move a device with all these detectors turned off or jiggled up a few notches and the infidel press with their heads up the ass of president milkdud"
PRESIDENT MILK DUD! I am laughing my Colon OUT! Nice work!
I will make a prediction right here and right now.
Japan is about to engage in Yen printing that will shock The Bernank.
300 billion USD my ass. This Japan crisis is going to the most expensive clusterfock of economic losses and rebuilding ever known to the modern world.
See Google Earth and unfolding Fukushima Crisis for more details.
Friggin milk dudski. This is the second major environmental disaster of his WORTHLESS administration. During the first one he just chose to look away and not lead. In number two here when a real leader, someone with some fucking brains forchistsake, would realize that people are thinking about what this would mean if it took place somewhere on the Eastern Seaboard or near SanFrancisco or friggin Chicago. People need reassurance. This is a major issue on so many levels and it needs an international crisis team to come to grips with it like right now. President dud is not only not dealing with the very real crisis here but he just turned around and started a war. Way to fucking go. Not just disengaged anymore but actively fucking things up.