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Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt Market

An Agent Of The King In Every Home

The legal concept of citizen privacy from
government intrusion is unfortunately a very new one in the long strides
of human history. The idea that government can be limited,
or restricted in its powers by the people, and that certain realms of
life can and should be off-limits to the prying eyes of bureaucracy, is
rarely applied in any culture of any era. This is because most civilizations have been founded and ruled upon the principles of military dominance. There was no separation between the government and the armies it fashioned; the government WAS the military. That
is to say, martial law was a way of life for society, privacy was a
foolish dream, and daring to contest the fact usually led to one’s

The Magna Carta of 1215, which King John was
essentially forced to support, established a foundation for civil
liberties which would then be fought over for the next several
centuries. Beginning in 1627, and the ‘Petition of Right’
in Britain, common citizens began demanding a separation between
military and civilian life, as well as the dismantling of standing
armies which at that time were being used by the corrupt oligarchy as a
means to subdue the populace. The aristocracy called it “royal prerogative”. The masses called it tyranny. However, as we all know, such breaks in the suffocation of despotism are few and fleeting. Fractures
in the Petition of Right were frequent, and the aptitude of government
to make war (even when there is no call for war) became the common
excuse for the rulership to degrade civilian legal protections and
hurtle them back into the dark ages, where property is a novelty that
the authorities violate at their leisure.

During the years leading up to the American
Revolution, the British attempted to stifle the growing independent
nature of the colonies by issuing laws such as the ‘Writs of
Assistance’, bypassing rights to privacy and allowing officials to
search homes and businesses at will without probable cause, supposedly
in the name of “capturing smugglers”. Not fully satisfied
with this intrusion on the lives of the colonists, King George and his
cronies issued the ‘Quartering Acts’, which required all colonists to
welcome soldiers sent to subjugate them into their homes and to their
dinner tables. According to law, early Americans were not
only forced to allow warrant-less searches of their homes, they also had
to show hospitality to the goons sent to dirty their doorsteps!

The purpose of these actions by governments is to assert their control over a population. THAT – IS – ALL. Rationalizations
are always made; usually in the name of “protecting the public from
harm”, but the real name of the game is imperialism, and fear. When
the establishment violates the line of citizen privacy, and gives its
agents the legal free reign to enter your home at will, the message they
are trying to send is: “Your property is our property. Your life is our business. The law does not protect you. The law is our weapon.” In other words: Resistance is futile.

The Revolutionary War and the U.S. Constitution
should have been the final word on the matter of limited government and
the inherent rights of individuals. But, the Founding
Fathers only thwarted the elites for a time, and as long as such
powerful minorities of men exist, there will always be new methods of
tyranny, and new battles to be endured. Some may respond
skeptically, claiming that our society today is a far cry from the age
of British oppression and soldiers storming our living rooms and our
pantries. I would have to disagree of course, after I stopped cringing at their ignorance.

The 4th Amendment A Fond Memory…

Last month in a 3-2 decision that has shocked the
independent media community but gone mostly unreported in the
mainstream, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled that citizens have no right
to block an officer’s entry into their home, even if the officer does
not have a warrant. The officer also does not have to give
any clear indication as to why he wishes to enter your home, meaning he
can enter without cause. Justice Steven David, one of the supporting judges stated:

“We believe … a right to resist an unlawful
police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible
with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence…”

“We also find that allowing resistance
unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of
injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest.”,0,5143977.story

Keep in mind, this is the same Indiana court that
decided in a previous case that an officer serving a warrant is not
required to knock (make his presence known) before entering your home if
he feels circumstances require it. So, to clarify; if an
officer wishes to walk into your house, for any reason, he may do so,
without a warrant, and without even knocking. You cannot block his path. You cannot close your door and lock it. You cannot kick his ass. You can’t even discuss the matter calmly with him before hand. He just walks in, and, he is legally protected.


While the Indiana Supreme Court did follow the
decision by pointing out that a homeowner may protest an officer’s
wrongful search through the courts after the fact, this is hardly any
solace, and is almost adding insult to injury, since these are the exact
courts that have decided our 4th Amendment rights no longer apply. Obviously,
once you allow authorities to savage your Constitutional freedoms, they
are hardly going to let you punish them later through their own court

Indiana Sheriff Don Hartman Sr., in response to the
court ruling, stated in an interview that he believed the decision gave
him the power to conduct house to house warrant-less searches, an idea
which he still defends:

This is just the latest of a string of court decisions across the country which expand the definitions of applied law. That
is to say, there is a concerted and widespread effort by courts
(especially federal courts) to broaden the accepted language of the law,
so that, in fact, authorities can interpret the law to mean whatever
they wish it to mean for whatever purpose fits their specific needs at
the time.

Cell phones are fair game, according to courts in
California, and police now have the ability to search your personal data
when taken into custody, even if you have not been officially charged
with a crime:

The Supreme Court has ruled that cops are allowed
to search your premises without a warrant if they “smell marijuana” and
“hear evidence being destroyed”. Just out of curiosity, what does it sound like when evidence is being destroyed? Does the Supreme Court have the sound on file somewhere? Without a doubt, certain not quite-so-honorable police will take advantage of this ridiculous decision:

New Mexico has ruled that officers may confiscate
firearms from your vehicle during a traffic stop even if they have no
reasonable cause to do so, trampling the 2nd Amendment as well as the 4th. Also
in New Mexico (as in many states), if you have a conceal carry permit,
you are supposed to announce to the officer that you have a weapon on
your person. Meaning, now you have to let the traffic cop
know that you have a firearm in the car and hope he doesn’t decide to
take it away from you:

We saw the broadening tactic with the passage of
the Food Safety Bill S. 510 and the immensely heightened powers of the
FDA to regulate even the most minute farm activity. We also
saw it in the railroading of Liberty Dollar founder Bernard von NotHaus
by the Department of Justice when they used an obscure and loosely
worded statute, essentially comparing the coinage of ANY alternative
currency, no matter how distant in appearance to U.S. legal tender, to
counterfeiting. Now, we are seeing the tactic applied to the 4th
Amendment itself, as law enforcement agents are given extreme prejudice
to interpret their rules of engagement however they see fit. Such corruption has occurred despite the application of the 4th
Amendment, to be sure, but now, the ease at which it can occur and the
lack of any redress by citizens is so pronounced, there can be only one
outcome; police abuse on an incredible scale.

What we are witnessing is a time honored process
exploited by autocrats the world over, now being utilized right here in
America. What began with the passage of the FISA Bill and
the expansion of government power to tap and monitor any American’s
communications without a warrant, we are now seeing in our very
neighborhoods. The law is being fogged and obscured until
it is no longer clearly defined, which allows police and courts to
operate within a vast grey area of legal chicanery. All
social structures become warped in the wake of this process until we are
no longer able to recognize that which is lawful, and that which is
unlawful. In the end, we will discover that almost ANYTHING
can be labeled “illegal” by the establishment in such an environment,
and that no one, no matter how harmless and abiding, is safe from the

Going Down In Flames…

I see where this is heading, and the destination is
grim, but don’t take my word for it, just simply look at what is
happening around you. The divide between law enforcement and the citizenry is growing. With
the Department of Homeland Security now actively placing local police
and sheriff’s departments in military training regiments, in military
style gear, and even arming them with tanks and heavy machine guns (yes,
tanks and .50 cal machine guns), it is becoming much harder to qualify
local law enforcement as a civilian entity, rather than just another
extension of the Department of Defense:

Even if military outfits like Northcom are not used
openly as a standing army within the U.S., we already have a standing
army in the form of men who were once called peace officers, whose
mandate was once to “protect and serve”. Now, the words “to
protect and serve” are disappearing from police cars nationwide, and we
have a law enforcement community gearing up for war! The economic breakdown has exacerbated the situation even further. As
states lose more and more funding due to the crashing municipal bond
markets, they are now becoming completely dependent on federal cash. And, with federal cash, there are many unfortunate strings attached…

If you have been paying attention to
police brutality cases over the past few years, then you have noticed a
blatant trend towards swift and immediate unprovoked violence resulting
in terminal consequences. When law enforcement is trained
for combat, for attack, rather than defense, when they are conditioned
to believe that the public is the enemy, and that they are somehow
separate, or superior, very bad things begin to happen. Let’s take a short walk down memory lane…

Oscar Grant, 22, was shot in the back by police in
Oakland, CA, while restrained and laying on the ground, pleading with
officers that he had a four-year-old-daughter. The incident
was caught on at least three separate cell phone cameras (which may
have been one of the reasons why courts in CA are so keen on allowing
warrant-less search and seizure of cell phones). The
shooting officer, Johannes Mehserle, was eventually charged with
involuntary manslaughter (???) serving a two year sentence and eligible
for parole by the end of this year. If his actions had not
been caught on video and disseminated across the web, who knows if he
would have even been charged at all:


John T. Williams, 50, and nearly deaf in one ear, was shot by Seattle
police for whittling a piece of wood while walking across the street. Officer
Ian Birk exited his vehicle, claiming Williams was “acting strangely”,
yelled at him to drop the knife, then giving him less than ten seconds
to comply, fired several rounds from his weapon, killing the man. The officer later claimed that Williams walked towards him in a menacing fashion. Witnesses argued to the contrary. Note that Birk had already drawn his firearm as he exited the vehicle. Also
note that Birk did not identify himself as a police officer as is
required by law. Williams’ knife was also found folded shut by
responding officers to the scene. Birk resigned due to public pressure, but was not charged with a crime:


And most recently, Jose Guerena, 26, and a former marine, was shot 60
times (a sign of undisciplined fire) in Pima County, Arizona, by a
SWAT team entering his home also occupied by his wife and four-year-old
son. Guerena’s wife stated that she had seen men through the window with guns, but that they could not be identified. Guerena grabbed his rifle (as most marines would) and told his family to hide. The
Pima Sheriff’s Department has changed their story on this incident
several times now, but this much is clear; the department claimed
Guerena fired at them with his AR-15 as they entered the home. This was a lie. Guerena’s weapon had the safety still on after his death. When this fact was made public, Pima admitted that he never fired a shot. Pima claims that they have a warrant for the Guerena home, but have obtained a court order which had it sealed from the public. Why they had it sealed is unknown (did they even have the right house?). The Guerena raid was part of a neighborhood action, supposedly to bust a drug dealing operation in the area. No drugs were found in Guerena’s home. The reason why SWAT was necessary to serve the warrant in the first place is also still unclear:


My purpose in showing you these disturbing videos is not to make you hate cops. It is to illustrate a dangerous trend amongst our civil servants. Where
we once had a few “bad apples” to contend with in our police
departments, now we have official training handed down from the DOD
which practically requires law enforcement officials to undergo a combat
mindset, a psychology of aggression. In many cases, I believe, these officers are not doing what they do out of malice or ill intent. They are doing what they do because they are being TRAINED to do it. This is what happens when a society becomes militarized. It cannot be avoided, and it will only get worse from here on. Now
imagine a violent element like this being given unlimited power to
decide which homes they wish to enter and how they will enter them…

Why I Will Not Submit To A Warrant-less Search…

Constitutional values cannot defend themselves. They require the people to stand firm, and to never yield. Americans
today have yielded far too much already, and at some point very soon,
we’re going to have to make the hard choice on what is more important;
our general safety and personal comfort, or our freedoms and the
freedoms of future generations. Like the American Colonials, we have a system that does not serve our best interests, but the interests of an elite few. We are quickly losing our ability to dictate the terms of our own society, and our own destinies. Sadly, we are not yet presenting the determination that the colonials held in the face of this danger. Today, we are a nation mourning its own demise before it has even occurred. We have turned to reluctant compliance and submission. We are, frankly, whiny and pathetic.

This does not have to be.

While fantastic organizations like Oath Keepers are
working hard to educate police and military on their sworn duty to
uphold and defend Constitutional liberties, we as the citizenry must
also show our support and resolve to see that the values and principles
outlined in that historic document are not tarnished by apathy. The proverbial line in the sand must be drawn now, or not at all. This means, at the very least, non-compliance with unjust laws that defile our conscience, as well as our heritage.

The common response to this by naysayers would be: “You’ll comply when you have a gun in your face…”

That’s what naysayers throughout history have always said, though. They said it to the Founding Fathers, to Gandhi, and beyond. There will always be another gun to put in the faces of men who fight for the truth of a thing. There will always be men to point those guns at us. The question is, who will be more steadfast? Is the will to dominate really stronger than the will to be free? Can you ever control a people who do not fear you, even at the barrel of a gun? This
is the mindset that brought this country to life, and it is a mindset
we must rediscover, if we are to have any chance of survival.


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Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:08 | 1336555 Iriestx
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Until the world starts fighting back, violently, against elected officials and bankers, things will only continue to get worse.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:21 | 1336618 jus_lite_reading
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Just in case everyone was not aware.... these are the exact symptoms of an empire that has lost control and is about to implode.... the U.S. is in the last breath before death.... sad but true and it all was caused by greed, filth, corruption, fraud, greed, corruption and more greed. .. I wont be surprised to see them take a stab at organized religion before they go down...

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:31 | 1336676 Alcoholic Nativ...
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The death blow was on 9/11 2001.  Never forget.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:42 | 1337254 aerojet
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Never forget what?  That the Bush admin had their backs to the wall and had to do something grand to divert attention and allow for all kinds of emergency powers to be enacted?  We should have taken our medicine in 2001.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:11 | 1337415 Oh regional Indian
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9/11 was the hammer blow that launched a million blows, almost neverending since.

Can't imagiine what it must be like to live in the US now. India is a bit of a blessing with it's lawlessness in that regard. And perhaps large parts of it will be unpoliced and unplolicable after One World is because of complexity and diversity.

Un-believable. Un---------believable.


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:25 | 1337641 Marla And Me
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One can read about such abuses on a daily basis through Radley Balko's work at  He's been writing about police militarization and absuses for years.  It's been a long time coming...

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 18:33 | 1337841 High Plains Drifter
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i was outside a friend of mine's house, painting her house,  on the days after 911. it was so eerily quiet with the jets all grounded. it is amazing how much noise pollution comes from aircraft......i had the television on near the front door, and i watched that totally bogus church service with george bush getting up there running his head and then going and sitting down by his equally worthless dad, ghw bush , in that washington church. i felt something was amiss and boy was i right....

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:59 | 1337056 Crab Cake
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These are symptoms of a Republic on its deathbed. In truth the "American" empire is just in its infancy.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:46 | 1337691 DosZap
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 In truth the "American" empire is just in its infancy.



Not according to History.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 18:34 | 1337845 High Plains Drifter
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can this ship be saved or shall she crash upon the rocks?

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 20:11 | 1338117 chumbawamba
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Come on, you really believe that?  If so it will be the shortest-lived empire ever since it's financial system is about to implode terminally, rendering it a lame duck.

The Republic died sometime between 1865 and 1933.  There is evidence that it was stillborn in 1787.  But nonetheless, America has been an empire since 1945.

And now, it's dying.

So sad.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 23:15 | 1338577 baby_BLYTHE
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+ + + + + +

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 07:41 | 1338973 edotabin
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Remains to be seen how this will play out. Well said though.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:34 | 1336696 wanklord
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Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. In recent years this country has witnessed the emergence of a new breed of individuals who fervidly preach the US Constitution as their holy manuscript. In fact, thee mules have been brainwashed with tons of bullshit about the Constitution and other patriotic crap in order to make these idiots feel “proud to be Americans.” These people are just reacting to the ongoing economic upheaval and desperately seeking shelter in a document that allegedly protects their rights. Americans clearly fit in of Leo Strauss’ (*) categories of society, the Vulgar Many:

“The Vulgar Many, are lovers of wealth and pleasure. They are selfish, slothful, and indolent. They can be inspired to rise above their brutish existence only by fear of impending death or catastrophe.”

As long as ordinary Americans remain in such brutish state, it will be very easy for any skilled sophist to manipulate and subdue these savages while profiling from their stupidity.


(*) German philosopher, 1899-1973


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:42 | 1336750 Iriestx
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When the power goes off because they can't afford to pay, and food is too expensive to put on their plates, people will wake up, but not until.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:49 | 1336978 chumbawamba
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But what will they do?  They may wake up to a reality in which they are powerless because they didn't pay attention to what was important while they could .  So they'll never be able to overcome their fear to act because the stakes are now too high.  It's either resist and perish or submit and subsist.

No, what people need to do is start talking to each other: family, friends, neighbors, community, etc.  You will still get strange looks from the ones on Xanax or other prescribed anxiety medications, which is good, because we want to weed these people out.  They are not fit to be part of the next evolution of the human species.  They will devolve or die off, as nature intended.

The only way anything is going to change for the better is when People en masse WITHDRAW THEIR CONSENT from the current control structure and pledge their allegience to EACH OTHER.

Once you can get at least 5% of people who receive traffic citations to contest them in court--just 5%--then you will have initiated the turning of the tide.  Once you can get at least 10% of the people--just 10%--to stop paying their taxes at ALL levels, then you have begun a revolution.  The problem is, in any given crowd of people in America these days, you can probably find less than 0.1% who are concerned or irate enough to take real action.  The rest are waiting for someone else to do something, or are sitting on the fence, or are content with where they are and don't want to rock the boat, or are truly still happy and successful (probably in some cushy corporate job subsidized by government--i.e. taxpayer--money), or they are part of the elite control structure themself.  This is the problem.  Not enough people are angry enough.  Give it a few more years, when the elite start feeding on the middle classes having long since devoured the poor.  Then you'll get more civil disobedience.

But for now?  Submission, obeyance, consent.  Pathetic.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:53 | 1337029 the left behinds
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Also Well Put.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:28 | 1337195 uniman
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The key to success is to withdraw any "consent" and participation from the existing system.  It is an illegitimate occupying force only.  Remove your money from the banking system and stop paying your taxes.  Stop filling out any of their paperwork.  Find work in the underground economy.  Use Bitcoins.  There are many other strategies of civil disobedience and peaceful resistance that will enable us to take and hold land and natural resources. 

There is no way to reform the old system at the ballot box and we cannot violently kill it.  Our only hope is to form a new society while the old wallows and suffocates in its own filfth.




Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:40 | 1337505 CH1
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Amen, uniman, amen.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 18:33 | 1337851 High Plains Drifter
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a lot of people still fly. they allow themselves, their children and wives to be subjected to invasive patdowns and feel downs and say nothing. they allow themselves to be eradiated with what some have said is harmful scanning but say nothing. they just grin and bear it.  does this speak volumes about the way the american mind works now? i think it does.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 21:01 | 1338232 Confuchius
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Hope is not a plan.

Your ancestors eventually realized that their European "colonial masters" would, in fact, have to be violently killed. There is no other way and never has been. Prepare.

Sun, 06/05/2011 - 08:23 | 1340914 skipjack
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Whilst I totally agree with your statements, I would like to see a plan by someone on how to keep your land and yet not pay property taxes.  I can and have dispensed with about everything else but that.  Any suggestions other than not pay taxes and go thru a tax lein sale in 3 years ?

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:41 | 1337259 Miss anthrope
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I don't really see that many middle class people any longer in Houston, Texas.  They have all had their standard of living slowly eroded. 


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:48 | 1337521 Medea
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Darwinism for Superdummies.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 21:33 | 1338349 CulturalEngineer
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You're on to it Chumbawamba... 

Build another system!

Catalyze the Network!

(and sustain it by taking the transaction landscape...)

Leveling The Transaction Landscape: Technology and the Campfire


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 23:16 | 1338580 Abitdodgie
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I pay no taxes anymore , as they are voluntary any way . How many other people pay no taxes or are you all still too scared

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 00:46 | 1338755 Estrella
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Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:50 | 1336771 the left behinds
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"Young people of America, awake from your slumber of indolence and hark-en the call of the future! Do you realise you are rapidly becoming a doomed generation? Do you realise that the fate of the world and of generations to come rests on your shoulders?  Do you realise that at any time you may be called on to protect your country and the freedom of the world from the creeping scourge of communism? How can you possibly laugh in the face of the disasters which face us all from all sides? Oh ignorant youth, the world is not a joyous place. The time has come for you to dispense with the frivolous pleasures of childhood and get down to honest toil until you are sixty-five. Then and only then can you relax and collect your social security and live happily until the time of your death. Also your insolent attitude disturbs me greatly. You have the nerve to say that you have never known what it is like to live in a secure and peaceful world; you say that the present generation has balled things up to the extent that we now face a war so terrible that the very thought of it makes hardened veterans shudder; you say it is our fault that World War ll  was fought in vein; you say that it is impossible to lay plans for the future until you are sure you have a future. I say Nonsense! None of these things matter. If you expect a future you must carve it out in the face of these things. You also say that you must wait until after you have served your time with the service to settle down. Ridiculous! It is a man’s duty to pull up stakes and serve his country at any time, then settle down again.


I say there is no excuse for a feeling of insecurity on your part;there is no excuse for juvenile delinquency; there is no excuse for your attitude except that you are rotten and lazy! I was never like that! I worked hard; I saved; I didn’t run around and stay out late at night; I carved out my own future through hard work and virtuous living, and look at me now: a respectful and successful man.

I warn you, if you don’t start now it will be too late, and the blame for the end of the world will be laid at your feet. Heed my warning, oh depraved and profligate youth; I say awake, awake, awake! 

Fearfully and disgustedly yours,       John J. Righteous-Hypocrite.  "



Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:35 | 1337488 Katow-jo
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As a young person myself, I'm going to put it frankly: We don't care.


And theres a reason for that.  We can't change a thing.  So why worry?  Realistically, If I sat in front of city hall with a sandwich board, or hell even set myself on fire, nobody would pay any attention.  And when it comes time to resist or submit, why bother?  To give your life so no one will remember it?  No thanks.


When the cards fall, most young people will just walk away, which is what everyone should do anyway.  Just leave.  Let the corrupt crazy people rule themselves.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:46 | 1337513 CH1
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Yes, but you should give a damn about yourself.

Start building a parallel life that doesn't leave you at the mercy of corrupt, crazy people. .

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 21:58 | 1338408 robobbob
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walk away? from the greatest structure ever built for the protection of individual freedom?

walk to where exactly?

to form your own self styled communities with your tweets, and face book families? that new media increasingly managed and controlled by the same elites devouring the current system?

so you can run into the arms of a waiting trap laid by the parasites who have caused all of this?

as the saying goes, you can run, but you'll only die tired.

grade school is over. the time is coming where you must decide to stand for something, or just disappear.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 23:27 | 1338608 Abitdodgie
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Walk away , well i guess you like been a slave then kodos to you your just what they want ,you would of liked 1939 Germany , oh wait most Young people in Germany were sent to war and died . The young women and old for that matter were all looked after by the russian army it was the biggest rape session in history , so if your married your wife will have something to look forward to after the war that's coming 

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:51 | 1336775 tarsubil
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Thanks for the asterisk oh wise one. It is nice that people like you come on here and give us a glimpse of the emptiness and evil that possesses the minds of the oligarchs.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:29 | 1336929 PierreLegrand
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What is it about the Constitution you don't like?

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:05 | 1337079 chumbawamba
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Let's start with the fact that it's a fraud and doesn't really apply to anyone, or if it did it certainly does not anymore.

Did you read the title of the essay?  There is no rule of law.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 21:06 | 1338260 Confuchius
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The Swiss have succeeded for some 800 years with no proper "constitution".


They are all armed to the teeth. They are also the militia and the national guard rolled into one.

You will find zero "home invasions" there. And definitely none by "police" unless they are suicidal.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 21:14 | 1338291 PierreLegrand
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They also don't have the "diversity" we have...

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 22:07 | 1338439 robobbob
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news flash

suisse came close disarming the citizen army Feb 2011 and "storing" the weapons in formal depots and banning keeping ammunition at home.,1518,744837,00.html

anti gunners vow to keep trying

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 01:03 | 1338776 dogbreath
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rock and roll baby

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:09 | 1337081 Cow
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Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:26 | 1337463 Oh regional Indian
Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:37 | 1336952 Hacksaw
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You are just pissed because Americans kicked the Germanic ass twice in less than 30 years. Take your weak Euroism somewhere else. The USA isn't the great evil of the world, the great evil of the world comes against Americans. The thing that is wrong with the economies of the countries of the world didn't come out of the USA it came out of Europe.

The problem Americans have is they listen to morons like you and eat up all that Euro monarchism BS. Leo Strauss is clearly a plagiarist, he stole that idea out of the Bible.

2nd Timothy, 3rd chapter

But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying it's power. Have nothing to do with them. They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins, and are swayed with all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth, men of depraved minds, who as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:37 | 1337484 Reptil
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Contrary to popular belief, evolution is not a slow steady climb to a better more sophisticated organism. Evolution is in leaps and bounds, often regression to an earlier stage, as the genetic markers of this characteristic are activated. Of course the concept of an "ecosystem" as a stable platform, an interconnected web of forces and energy, is also bogus. There's chaos basically, and brief patches of some stabillity, but no promise of this resulting in a "better", more stable world as the next outcome.

Human beings have far more history than is in the books. The part before say.... 6000 BC has been erased. The megalithic society that was in existence on the bottom of the mediterranean sea and in mesopotamia (now the american province of Iraq) was largely peaceful, very sophisticated and used technology that was lost to later generations. The extensive temple complexes on and around Malta are one of the few surviving artefacts of this culture. The language written (and thus spoken) was Sanskrit.
Something happened. Something went terribly wrong. It all disappeared, and was replaced by a world filled with wandering nomads, like the tribes of Israël, and but a few places existed where the old culture and technology survived.

Human beings then regressed. They became "uncivillised" and that's where that Bible quote is from.

History repeats itself. It's all cycles. The idea that a nation state, even a global culture and technology like ours can exist without serious challenges, is nonsense.

So is holding on to values that do not reflect the present situation. That's my opinion, but I base it on the idea that I'll never fight a losing battle. It's useless.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:51 | 1337531 Medea
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Darwinism Not for Dummies.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 21:44 | 1338376 Rhodin
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Likely something like this has happened several times, reducing civilization repeatedly to cave dwellers and nomads.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 22:13 | 1338451 robobbob
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Are we not men?

You are devo!!

sometime a losing battle must be fought or it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy by forfeit. is that your choice?


Sun, 06/05/2011 - 00:59 | 1340647 Reptil
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No, I'm not advocating surrender nor do I try to make defeat palpatable. There are many ways to win a war, one of which is knowing where to fight, for what, and how. Just remain without action, leaving the initiative to the enemy, because of a moral perspective (which is very powerful, please don't get me wrong on that) is a losing strategy at this point in time.  Pulling out of a battle, so the enemy wastes resources, and so is positioned "on the wrong foot" seems more attractive to me than facing up to forces infinatively better prepared, and worse; TO FIGHT ON THEIR TERMS.

I don't want to sound corny but this Sun Tsu reference is very apt.

17. According as circumstances are favorable,
one should modify one's plans.

18. All warfare is based on deception.

19. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable;
when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we
are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away;
when far away, we must make him believe we are near.

20. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder,
and crush him.

21. If he is secure at all points, be prepared for him.
If he is in superior strength, evade him.

22. If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to
irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.

23. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest.
If his forces are united, separate them.

24. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where
you are not expected.

25. These military devices, leading to victory,
must not be divulged beforehand.
Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:58 | 1337559 andybev01
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I'm neither unholy or holy; more like aholy.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:53 | 1337699 DosZap
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Herr Wanklord,

How did you type that while Wanking Off?.


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:41 | 1336982 rumblefish
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revolution......the only way out.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:49 | 1337527 CH1
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No. Revolution works in the state's favor. Just leave them behind and build separate systems.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 17:46 | 1339925 bruiserND
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Oath Keepers Tucson Memorial Day to Honor Jose Guerena born 1984,USMC shot 61 times by a SWAT team as he awoke from a sound sleep in his own home with his wife and children . Jose had no prior record and had committed no crime.    

Jose Manuel Guerena is us. This? could be any of us....any of us could be next.     

Stewart graduated from Yale Law School in 2004, where his paper “Solving the Puzzle of Enemy Combatant Status” won Yale’s Miller prize for best paper on the Bill of Rights. He assisted teaching U.S. military history at Yale, was a Yale Research Scholar, and is writing a book on the dangers of applying the laws of war to the American people.  (

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:08 | 1336560 baby_BLYTHE
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They can try to steal the Gold, but they will have to walk over my dead body first.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:12 | 1336573 redpill
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They won't have a problem with that.


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:18 | 1336589 baby_BLYTHE
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they can put the cold steel in my mouth and demand I surrender my PMs/Firearms.

My response won't change, "pull"

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:24 | 1336634 jus_lite_reading
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My plans to enjoy retirement have thus far not been what I expected. I was to move to a nice warm place in Florida and watch the sun set everyday on the beach. Now I will have to do that in another country in south Amercia. Costa Rica maybe but anywhere but here....

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:30 | 1336669 baby_BLYTHE
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at least you got to retire.

Some of us will be working until we are 90

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 19:00 | 1337928 el Gallinazo
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Only David Rockefeller will be over 90 in 15 years. He'll be 147. The trick is to live exclusively on human blood.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:50 | 1337013 rumblefish
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turmoil will not be isolated to the good ole USA. 

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:28 | 1337177 ConfusedIdiot
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Hello JLR. Already did it. If you have $1600/month. Live like a prince down here. FT Housekeeper and gardner, 21st Cent. Medical care, perfect weather, beautiful housing choices, drink and eat like Midas. Regards,

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 23:29 | 1338538 pops
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Bot flies.  No thanks.  I'll reload and stay here.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:42 | 1337271 WALLST8MY8BALL
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If you choose Costa Rica then you will be on the Pacific side of the country- that is where all the American's are. Better on the Carribean side -you can see the sun rise every day and less Americans.. Check out Cauhita

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 19:12 | 1337965 el Gallinazo
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Too damn muggy without A/C and don't count on electricity in 10 years. Recommend the central mountains at least a 1000 meters up. San Isidro de General is a nice spot. Lots of veggies and cows. But I have been in 7 Latin American countries in the last two years and I found the Costa Ricans to be the absolutely most reckless, stupid drivers. Also, CR ain't cheap compared to many other countries. Everyone with two colones to rub together is a wanabe land speculator. And duties are huge. A quart of economy oil is $7.00.

Mon, 06/06/2011 - 15:31 | 1344177 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Got my AC on now. Ride around on a 4 wheel drive that I only need to fill once a month, but the wear and tear does add up - but if you know your way about then you can get deals. And yes, alot of terrible drivers. Almost as bad as New Jersey.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:28 | 1336635 InconvenientCou...
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:) Nice idea, but can't take it with you. Puke down the barrel instead, followed by a nut cracker.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:44 | 1336999 wombats
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I admire your stand on this.  Free people can only remain free through determined resistance to all encroachments to liberty. 

Unfortunately such determination will be increasingly difficult as our gov't/leaders/rulers assert greater control upon our lives. 

We must all decide to take a stand for liberty or surely watch our freedoms expire in the dustbin of history.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:05 | 1337069 Urban Redneck
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History and current events demonstrate the determination of resistance increases in direct correlation to the government's erosion of civil liberties.  In the larger scheme of things, the US government's actions don't measure up to its contemporaries, yet.  The civilian body count needs to increase, then the State body count will rise in correlation, before the US government collapses, because said Government is made up of COLLECTIVE IDIOTS.   

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:27 | 1337466 I did it by Occident
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Just remember to put in a deadman's switch.  Surprise!

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:42 | 1337682 AldoHux_IV
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Right on

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:12 | 1336562 Turd Ferguson
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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:13 | 1336567 Iriestx
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We're beyond the point where that piece of parchment can save us.  "Bullets change governments far surer than votes."


It's going to be a sight to see when the most heavily-armed civilian population in the history of the world rises up and takes their country back.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:23 | 1336606 aint no fortuna...
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"It's going to be a sight to see when the most heavily-armed civilian population in the history of the world rises up and takes their country back."

Not as long as The Biggest Loser and a dozen other "reality" shows turn 300 million sheep into happy, gurgling zombies.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:20 | 1336611 Iriestx
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Hunger is a powerful motivator, and lean times are coming.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:04 | 1336801 Zedge Hero
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 I think the US will be the last to wake up. When they do, watch out, like telling someone their entire existence is meaningless.  World Revolution has begun without us, how long until we join in is the question.  And whoever junked the Declaration of Independence should be barred from life here at the hedge.  Then again they might not have realized what it was either, pathetic.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:28 | 1336925 DosZap
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Americans , as a whole have always been the last one's to the fight.

But, when we get there, we have a resolve(even the sheeple), seldom seen.

As for this;

So, to clarify; if an officer wishes to walk into your house, for any reason, he may do so, without a warrant, and without even knocking. You cannot block his path. You cannot close your door and lock it. You cannot kick his ass. You can’t even discuss the matter calmly with him before hand. He just walks in, and, he is legally protected


He may be protected by an illegal law( and it IS illegal, no matter what the fuckstick judge said), but he wont be protected from a hail of gunfire,and a grieving family.

Best keep that shit up north.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:02 | 1337355 Miss anthrope
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Please can ANYONE explain to me one thing, I am not a lawyer, wish I was but I don't understand..... what is the legal course of action when a supreme court or judge or anyone passes a law that is unconstitutional?  Or is this Chumba what you are talking about?  Is this the reason why we are lawless.  


I don't understand how we have all these , WHAT, thousand, hundreds of thousands , of "public servants" who have sworn an oath to protect and defend the constitution and there is no one to say when it is they have violated their oath and so they are therefore no longer ELIGIBLE to serve out the remainder of their term in office.  I don't understand this.  Can anyone who has legal background explain.  THANKS!  and love you all, each and everyone of you!



Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:34 | 1337479 I_ate_the_crow
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The only recourse to overturning a Supreme Court decision is a constitutional amendment, which must be ratified in 2/3's of the 50 states. Otherwise Congress must redraft the law which the Court finds unconstitutional to conform to its interpretation.

If the Indiana law is not overturned by the Court of Appeals, prepare to panic. If the case gets all the way to the Supreme Court, and they affirm it, panic and move the fuck out of the country.

There are many nuances to this, but I will leave the rest of the research to you.


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:42 | 1337512 Miss anthrope
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Thank you so much for that enlightened answer.  I will be watching the case closely. 

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:08 | 1337570 MrPalladium
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The decision of the Indiana Supreme Court can be appealed to the United States Supreme court on 4th amendment grounds, as it is in conflict with prior U.S. Supreme court decisions. I suspect that the Supremes will side with the scathing dissent in the Indiana decision. I am greatly amused by the dictum in the case that a victim of a warrantless search can sue for civil damages, because in most cases there will be no actual damages of any significance. A plaintiff will be entirely at the mercy of a jury for punitive damages, which he is unlikely to get, especially if the victim of the search has a criminal record, or the police actually find something incriminating.

In effect, the police in Indiana have been given a green light to search on a hunch, but are the insurers of the accuracy of their hunches. Redress in the courts will only be available as a practical matter to very sympathetic plaintiffs with the resources to hire a good lawyer.

Perhaps the most dangerous defect in the Indiana decision is that part of the decision which allows a conviction for impeding a police officer based on police testimony of an officer who is in fact breaking the law at the time of the alleged offense. How can such testimony be credible? Why is it not excluded? What officer is going to resist the temptation to charge an illegal search victim when there are no other witnesses to the act. Then the county prosecutor will offer to drop the impeding charge if the victim agrees not to sue for damages in a civil action.

This is a knowingly corrupt decision.


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:43 | 1337683 Miss anthrope
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much obliged Mr. Palladium, I hope that you are in the chain of defense of our dying Republic in some high capacity.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 12:05 | 1339241 Milestones
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Marbury v Madison 17 Wall 205 Cranch 2 1803

"Thus the particular phraseology of the Constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principal, supposedly to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is VOID; and the courts AS WELL AS ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE BOUND BY THAT INSTRUMENT."

This is the Supreme Court ruling that removed all doubt that the U.S. Constitution was the supreme law of the land. Of course it is now a roll of toilet paper.      Milestones

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 17:32 | 1337652 goldsaver
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7.62x51 delivered at over 1,400fps seems to be the only thing these cretins, and all of their predecessors understand.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 21:54 | 1338395 DaddyO
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The 7.62x51 rounds I shoot are a bit faster than your's, the average is around 2800fps with the average muzzle energy at 600 yds being the same as a 9mm at point blank range. Cheap WalMart ammo will deliver the same ballistics I just outlined and match grade will be far higher. Just Sayin...


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 23:36 | 1338619 vxpatel
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Anyone who worships an institutional doctrine should be banned for life, they aren't worthy of the brain in their skull.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:02 | 1337070 TheTmfreak
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This is fact supported by history allllll over the place.

The Egyptians started getting just a little bit hungry.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:34 | 1336951 PierreLegrand
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There are plenty of folks who are not bedazzled by the bullshit on TV...or anywhere else for that matter.

But I don't think a revolution is the answer...once they start they are out of control and where they end up no one knows.

Instead we must adopt the tactics of those who have put us into this situation. It should be easy enough given that NOW they are the defenders of the status quo and we are the insurgency. We must envelope them, overwhelm them, silence THEM...he who fires the first shot will lose. And as awful as those deaths mentioned in the post are those do not qualify as first shots.

We still have a chance to win this in the ballot box but it is going to take the same sort of effort that those who corrupted this nation made. Are those of you calling for arms admitting that you don't have the patience, ability, or worse argument needed to win a long fight?

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:21 | 1337133 I Told YOU So
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I beg to differ, it's one government, 2 heads, voting is not the way to go, 

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 09:22 | 1339042 FreeNewEnergy
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Voting. Quaint relic of a bygone era.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:16 | 1336870 1100-TACTICAL-12
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it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

Let's get this party started.......

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:35 | 1336959 Pchelar
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Vote from the rooftops...

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:44 | 1337001 America- Some A...
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Doesn't matter how many guns you have in the USA. How effective is your .30-.30 against a Predator drone or a .50 cal armed robot? Once the famine sets in (home farming becoming all but illegal with the passage of the food safety bill) and people have to eat gov't-issued Meals by Monsanto® there will come a day when they will confiscate all your weapons because people will kill each other for food.

Oh yeah, simply talking about a revolution makes you a suspected terrorist, which means you can be detained FOREVER without a trial, thanks to the good people that brought you the Patriot Act.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 18:03 | 1339959 cranky-old-geezer
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It's going to be a sight to see when the most heavily-armed civilian population in the history of the world rises up and takes their country back.

Forget it. 

If it hasn't happened by now, it's not going to happen.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:12 | 1336577 Turd Ferguson
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I like it that someone here has decided that the Declaration of Independence is "junk".


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:19 | 1336593 Iriestx
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I didn't junk it, but it's useless relic at this point.  People don't need a 200 year old piece of parchment to tell them they have the right and responsiblity to take their country back, and it certainly won't be what motivates them.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:18 | 1336601 Turd Ferguson
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I'm just saying that, after 200+ years, the rationale for revolution hasn't changed.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:46 | 1336993 DosZap
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Who junked the DAMNED truth?.


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:44 | 1337507 I_ate_the_crow
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Haha. They act as if a group of people who can see through the utter bullshit of a complex global system of political, legal and financial fraud can't see through meaningless junks.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:17 | 1337433 Arnolds Love Child
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The Patriot Act eviscerated the Bill of Rights. Most Americans were too shell-shocked by the 9-11 scam to protest. Now it's much too late. Your masters reside in Wall St. and City of London boardrooms.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 18:37 | 1337853 CH1
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The Declaration still rocks after 235 years.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 05:47 | 1338937 WaterWings
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Hell yes.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:20 | 1336612 US Uncut
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Absolutely because the reason the paper was CREATED was AFTER people took up arms and fought.

What has not been a part of American CONSCIOUSNESS is that you have to KEEP fighting for it.

And fighting not by these FAKE fights of freedom in other countries, but HERE, ON OUR OWN SOIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:22 | 1336625 tickhound
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"... Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a god damn piece of paper!"

George W. Bush is on Zerohedge?

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:39 | 1336972 DosZap
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"... Stop throwing the Constitution in my face, it's just a god damn piece of paper!"


Link Please

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:16 | 1337420 weinerdog43
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Look it up yourself.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:22 | 1336829 Bay of Pigs
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Let me junk you for being a useless tool on US history.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:13 | 1336860 Nacho.Libre
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I think they DO need that piece of paper.  People don't react more because they aren't educated.  They believe that they HAVE to listen to the government and the officials.  They don't understand rights theory, freedoms, etc.  They have been brain washed with public education and TV.  I still remember back in high school government class the teach saying that the reason the constitution was written to protect the rights of the minority was because the founding fathers were rich landowners with slaves that wanted to protect their property.  We never discussed tyranny of the majority or protection of individual freedoms as such, it was framed as protection of the wealthy elite from the masses.  Of course, looking at the world today, it might that was the intent if it weren't for all the constiutional trampling it took for us to get here.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:22 | 1336605 baby_BLYTHE
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It' despicable. Shows how far this country has fallen.

Ron Paul said in his latest CNBC interview "We don't have much of a Republic left".

Mitt Romney's version of the republic will be austerity for the sheeple and unlimited bailouts for the bankster crooks.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:24 | 1336615 the not so migh...
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++++ Ron Paul has to mobilize his supporters more.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:18 | 1336878 Cognitive Dissonance
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I suspect you have that backwards. Ron Paul's supporters must mobilize themselves.

As long as we expect someone else to do the work, either the mobilizing or demonstrating or the revolution, it ain't gonna happen. Leadership begins within. As long as we are waiting for leadership to motivate and organize us, we are just lying to ourselves about what needs to be done. This isn't going to be solved at the ballot box. To think that it will is to continue to be trapped by the left-right tail chasing.

The political system is broken and I would argue always has. Now that the country has been systematically raped of it's wealth over the last 20 years what exactly are we going to fix with the very same political system that enabled it. The system is rigged. Time to refresh the system.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:40 | 1336979 the not so migh...
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Cog, He is running as a Repub elephant still, he has to win the primarys playing this route.  The others are organizing to squash him.    

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:03 | 1337057 Cognitive Dissonance
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The political system is terminally broken and will not, and can not, be used to save us. We must find the courage to save ourselves, an admittedly tall order.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:06 | 1337085 TheTmfreak
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The best he can do is inspire people to start taking personal liberty a little bit more seriously. No questions asked, and nobody can argue against this, he has.

Even if a friend or somebody said "you should check out Ron Paul" (so the friend is the start of it) he has certainly helped pull people out of the slumber. He is at least a voice for SOME reason. I'm not going to call him some sort of god figure, or he has it figured out, but at least his overall principle and what drives what he does, is based off liberty.  For a politician that is good enough for me.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 19:05 | 1337941 ffed
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I'd like to see Ron Paul announce that he is quitting and removing himself from office because the entire system is corrupt.  As long as he remains part of it no matter how good his intentions, he is still part of a corrupt and broken system and at some level supporting its legitimacy. Somehow we need to try something new, this isn't working anymore.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 19:16 | 1337976 Cathartes Aura
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at this stage, voting is a palliative, it's like giving a child crayons & paper and a chair at the kid's table.

the Paul family is part of this history, stop "hoping" they'll "change" things for you.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 19:37 | 1338023 el Gallinazo
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You really think they would let Ron Paul take office, assuming he could win (without Supreme Court endorsed unlimited corporate money), unless he agreed so sell out his supporters in a back room deal the way Obama did? The last president who thought the office meant shit was JFK. With a man Paul's age, they wouldn't even gun him down; they would use medical means. The Israeli's have perfected drug based assassinations.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:28 | 1336636 GreenSideUp
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You forgot wars, wars and more wars + empire building all over the globe.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:25 | 1336643 InconvenientCou...
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and the mormon elder cabal

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 19:28 | 1337999 Cathartes Aura
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oooh yes, dejunked for that one!


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:29 | 1336650 jus_lite_reading
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Turd I am with you on this one... who the hell would junk you for that?? It only goes to show who reads zh!! Ben is that you? Tiimay?

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:43 | 1336736 Dr. No
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Turd, I want to beleive the post was junked because someone does not like YOU rather than the content of the post.  That has been happening around here.  Perhaps, the junker is a imperialistic brit whos forefather owned some of that tea. Or it could be krugman marking the post as read, as he as admitted doing.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:32 | 1336924 Duuude
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Who is the Asshole who junked Turd's quote ?


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:15 | 1337107 DosZap
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Fri, 06/03/2011 - 20:51 | 1338220 Campagnolo
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are you his fucking lawyers or something?....Turd was junked for whoever not agree with him...

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:02 | 1337353 Urban Redneck
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Even 200 years ago recycling was trendy. However, in today's PC academia Jefferson would be a plagarist.  

A DECLARATION OF RIGHTS made by the representatives of the good people of Virginia, assembled in full and free convention; which rights do pertain to them and their posterity, as the basis and foundation of government.

SECTION 1. That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.

SECTION 2. That all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people; that magistrates are their trustees and servants and at all times amenable to them.

SECTION 3. That government is, or ought to be, instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the people, nation, or community; of all the various modes and forms of government, that is best which is capable of producing the greatest degree of happiness and safety and is most effectually secured against the danger of maladministration; and that, when any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community hath an indubitable, inalienable, and indefeasible right to reform, alter, or abolish it, in such manner as shall be judged most conducive to the public weal.


Adopted unanimously June 12, 1776 Virginia Convention of Delegates drafted by Mr. George Mason.

Article I of the July 1, 1971 Constitution of the Commonwealth of Virginia, changed the preamble to read:

A DECLARATION OF RIGHTS made by the good people of Virginia in the exercise of their sovereign powers, which rights do pertain to them and their posterity, as the basis and foundation of government.

Virginia Declaration of Rights, 12 June 1776
Virginia Constitution, 29 June 1776
Declaration of Independence, 4 July 1776


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 20:01 | 1338081 rocker
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You sure have balls to post this turd. After you defend, 'you got to shoot them in the head' asshole's like your buddy glenn beck. 

Your a disgrace, go hide behind your patriot or homeland securtiy acts. See where that gets you.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:15 | 1336570 SilverDoctors
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@ baby-Blythe: Thats why gov't wont attempt to confiscate gold or silver. They will nationalize gold and silver mines, 401k's, IRA's and pensions.  The few people who actually own gold and silver are heavily armed. The rest of the sheep don't have anything worth confiscating outside of their retirement funds.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:18 | 1336585 Highrev
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That sounds like a challenge that the police state simply can't let slide by.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:12 | 1336572 carbonmutant
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 Home of the brave and the land of the free...

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 18:41 | 1337869 CH1
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If only...

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:12 | 1336576 Highrev
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Time to start considering relocating . . .

. . . to some other country.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:15 | 1336590 Turd Ferguson
Fri, 06/03/2011 - 21:07 | 1338263 Campagnolo
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hey Turd don't post that shit....Americans dont want to know how really is the world out there, if here, in America there is no justice so then, people will not find justice anywhere in the world..if here in America things turn like a third country...then we are close to the real end of times.

Sat, 06/04/2011 - 11:02 | 1339150 doggings
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hey Turd don't post that shit....Americans dont want to know how really is the world out there, if here, in America there is no justice so then, people will not find justice anywhere in the world..if here in America things turn like a third country...then we are close to the real end of times.

its obvious anyone with any brains who isnt up for what is coming will leave to find a better place.

and believe it or not blinkerboy there are many many alternatives to the USSA.

but you better be quick, the clock is ticking..

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:45 | 1336741 Northeaster
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Why leave? If there were ever a country that has the freedom to rise up, whether by peaceful or non-peaceful means, The United States is it.

I'm betting the wrong (or right) American(s) will be attacked, probably by a TBTF bank, and "The People" will render aid to said person/people on their own.

I stated before, in the piece by "Cognitive Dissonance", as a former P.O., your only as good as your leadership. Some officers will be sheep and do whatever their Chief tells them, others will have normal Chiefs and sit it out and just respond to what is necessary. Are there bad cops out there? Sure, but the good ones far outnumber the bad ones.

Unless something has changed since I was in the military, the oath is to The Constitution, not any one person, politician or group. Chances may be the brass orders the troops to sit on the sidelines and render only humanitarian aid.

What will be the catalyst? Who knows? I'm waiting like many others, not for destruction, but for pillaging to be put to an end on my fellow Americans for the benefit of a very few. For those "you first" types, be my guest, but I have children, and until some meaningful event happens, I'll be sitting on the sidelines watching and waiting, watching my children grow into this completely corrupted Plutocracy. If I had nothing to lose, this would be a whole different post, while on the run.


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:36 | 1336944 Bananamerican
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"Are there bad cops out there? Sure, but the good ones far outnumber the bad ones."

I hope to god you're right Northeaster.

and yet in that 2nd video (the Seattle murder) the other officers can be heard saying "good job" and "you did the right thing" having not even SEEN the incident! 

I've been hearing about FAR TOO MANY excessive use of force incidents the last couple bout you?

And the cops that make the force these days look more and more like gangsters themselves, fat, bald, dumb and decadent

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:09 | 1337095 equity_momo
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The bad apples pollute the rest. Its like Sub Prime mortgages. Sure , you can have the majority of a CDO as AAA paper , but once you add just enough Junk , it turns the whole thing to sh*t.

Look at places like East Germany for guidance on where our Police State is heading.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:20 | 1337130 DosZap
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it's dudes like you that give me HOPE.

And let me know my thinking is RIGHT headed.

On SWAT  raids, most of the teams, are told why they are going, and do not question the authority to do it.

They are the Sheeple of the LE Force.

The folks that must be held accountable are the Leaders.

IF you want to kill a Snake, you do not start by chopping off the tail.

HEAD first.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:48 | 1337285 Crab Cake
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You have everything to lose. Go ahead and sit your old fat ass on the sideline, and prey for your kiddos to make or fuck their way to the top 10%. I really don't like cops, and hearing your sentiment just backs that feeling up. Oh, and should any of your junior fascisto friends try anything like was outlined in the article above in my neck of the woods I hope their vests are rated short range. 308. The pigs shoot first ask later and so will I.

Don't ever dial 911, and do not ever speak to a cop. Get a gun and a dog, preferably multiples; you've been warned.

On CDs last thread I was told I was "making the world and future worse, and called dishonorable " for stating we must use every peaceful means of resistance right now.... Paint THIEVES on banks, tell your elected Reps you want a CON CON or you will revolt, don't pay your mortgage, dump your CC debt, buy pm's, don't pay taxes or pay as little as possible, don't do business with Wall St, don't bank and use cash.... Fucking stand up. Think I'm crazy? The surest road to bloody revolt and/or tyranny right now is to do nothing.

I no longer recognize the federal government as the just central ruler of these United States, and declare our land to be ruled by a tyrrany. Tshit, the shit fan, it's on... what do you do now?

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 16:08 | 1337382 Northeaster
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"what do you do now?"  "you've been warned."

First, I'm going to start packing my shit and head home, sit in traffic, and think, wow, there's some really dumb freaking Americans in this country. Second, not sure who you're warning, but as soon as you throw language like that out, as well as your lack of command of the English language, we're better off without retards like yourself in any kind of revolt, even if it were "bloody". Thanks for sharing.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:51 | 1337287 Crab Cake
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Fri, 06/03/2011 - 19:52 | 1338050 Chicken_Little
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Why leave? Because when the people march on Washington DC it'll be the wrong people. They'll be demanding their government goodies back and the US will become another Argentina. I left 9 months ago and have a good life in Thailand to weather the storm from a safe distance. When the supply lines get cut off in the US cities, people have NO IDEA what they'll be facing and I don't want to be anywhere near it.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:40 | 1336965 Gene Parmesan
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I'll consider relocating to a state here in the US that's more like-minded before I consider abandoning the country.

The best that we can hope for if/when the shit really starts hitting the fan is to have states or groups of states spin off, circle their wagons and start over with a clearer focus on their respective citizens' ideals.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 22:05 | 1338435 DaddyO
Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:16 | 1336579 Atch Logan
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The American people, vis a vis the middle class, did not fight back against the Viet Nam war until it saw body bags of their sons coming home: find some way to show our people the equivalent of that today, and you will have a marvelous, violent reaction.

Unfortunately, the control of the propaganda is in the hands of the administration and the elete.  When the ball field is leveled, if ever it can be, then we can fight back.

For a very long time, I have believed that, today, our future is in the hands of our hackers. You go guys.


Fri, 06/03/2011 - 18:38 | 1337857 Uncle Remus
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Cue "V"

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:13 | 1336581 shushup
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Try being a middle aged single person in this country. We are the highest taxed with the fewest rights of anyone in this country. We are not equal in any way. Abolish the state and federal government and the FED. Start over with the constitution and maybe this country has a chance.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 13:35 | 1336682 firefighter302
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Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:25 | 1336893 Shell Game
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+2015, the new 1776..

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 15:24 | 1337149 DosZap
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