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Guest Post: Bundesbank Executive Attacks Jews, Turks, Africans et al in Xenophobic Seizure
Submitted by Toni Straka of The Prudent Investor
Bundesbank Executive Attacks Jews, Turks, Africans et al in Xenophobic Seizure
German Bundesbank executive Thilo Sarrazin has sparked a new uproar by
saying that "all Jews share a common gene" and also attacked the Basques
in Spain the same way in a newspaper interview.
This comes only a few days after Sarrazin came under fire in Germany for
using shock talk about the country's Muslim immigrants, Turks, Middle
Easterners and Africans when he presented a new book.
Sarrazin’s new book, whose title translates as “Germany Eliminates
Itself,” sparked a heated debate. A spokesman of the Bundesbank so far
only said that the book is Sarrazin's personal opinion, not exactly
distancing itself from Sarrazin's xenophobic bouts.
His frothy statements were immediately rebutted by foreign minister
Guido Westerwelle and minority representatives. A spokesman for
chancellor Angela Merkel began his Sunday with expressions of outrage.
Sarrazin is still on the job after an interview with conservative German Sunday paper "Welt am Sonntag" where he extended his attacks to Jews.
German official news outlet Deutsche Welle was the first to report on
Sarrazin's nationalistic outbreak that is destined to destroy Germany's
image rebuilt in the last 65 years.
Sarrazin appears to have wild mood swings. In 2009, the central banker,
who is a member of the Social Democratic Party (SPD), had said he would
prefer immigration "if it was by eastern European Jews with a
15-percent-higher IQ than the German population."
His new book, to appear on shelves this week, claims that immigration
from Turkey, the Middle East and Africa would dumb down his country and
led him to draw a line between Christian culture and the rest.
From Deutsche Welle:
German central bank executive Thilo Sarrazin has stirred
fresh controversy over the weekend with discriminatory remarks
concerning religious minorities.
"All Jews share a particular gene," Sarrazin said in an interview. "That makes them different from other peoples."
Sarrazin, who is currently promoting his book "Deutschland schafft sich
ab", remained undeterred in expressing his views despite criticism and
calls for his resignation from the board of the Bundesbank.
The cultural peculiarities of the peoples is no myth, but determines the
reality of Europe," Sarrazin told the newspapers Welt am Sonntag and
Berliner Morgenpost.
Berlin's former finance chief has said in the past that Muslims living
in Germany do not contribute to the country's economic prosperity,
reducing their role to the running of fruit and vegetable stands.
He reiterated his view that Muslim immigrants all over Europe were
integrating more poorly than other immigrant populations into the
societies of their host countries.
In 2009, the
central banker, who is a member of the Social Democratic Party (SDP),
had said he would prefer immigration "if it was by eastern European Jews
with a 15-percent-higher IQ than the German population."
The Jewish community in Germany reacted with indignation to Sarrazin's attempts at racial profiling.
Whoever tries to define Jews by their genetic makeup, even when it is
superficially positive in tone, is in the grip of a race mania that Jews
do not share," said Stephan Kramer, secretary of the Central Council of
Jews in Germany.
While Sarrazin made reference in his interview to the alleged unique
genetics of social groups, he also claimed he was not racist. It was not
ethnicity, he said, but rather the culture of Islam that kept Muslims
immigrants from integrating into European societies.
Germany's Foreign Minister, Guido Westerwelle, responded to Sarrazin's
latest comments, saying statements "that promote racism or anti-Semitism
have no place in political discourse."
Radical speech
Roland
Koch, the outgoing premier of the German state of Hesse, told the
newspaper Bild am Sonntag that Sarrazin was pushing himself into the
margins of politics. Koch recognized that the banker was "addressing
existing problems that society mustn't ignore," but added that he
obviously appeared to be concerned only with pursuing "radical speech
and the breaching of taboos."
Before Sarrazin's latest statements were published, the chairman of
Germany's Turkish Federation had called for Sarrazin to be removed from
his post. Meanwhile, a spokesman for Chancellor Angela Merkel and
Germany's integration commissioner Maria Boehmer expressed outrage at
Sarrazin's statements.
Christian Gaebler of the SDP told news magazine Spiegel that if Sarrazin
did not willingly leave the party, he and other members would "begin
procedures to expel him from the party."
Sarrazin has claimed his views toe the party line. Other parties, he
said, would prefer to see immigrants kicked out of Germany, whereas he
claimed to advocate integration.
Looking at my calendar I
see the date of August 29, 2010. Sarrazin's version must be from 1938.
Berlin's local SPD organisation has initiated a move to expulse Sarrazin from the party.
Finance minister Schaeuble had said on last week to Bloomberg,
he was ashamed of Sarrazin. A Merkel spokesman had called Sarrazin's
views that migrants are making Germany “dumber,” are “not helpful at
all” and “can be hurtful for a lot people.”
IMHO it would be most opportune if we keep religion out of politics. Europe has never fared well on that path.
UPDATE: Reuters quotes a Bundesbank spokesman, saying
they are his personal opinions and not linked to his role at
the bank. The central bank requires evidence of "serious misconduct" to
bring about Sarrazin's dismissal.
The central
bank last year stripped Sarrazin of some of his duties. If the central
bank's board voted to remove Sarrazin, the move would then need the
approval of the president.
and summarized the outrage in official Germany:
Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle and Defence Minister
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg said Thilo Sarrazin was out of line for
comments about Jews, remarks that were also criticised by Jewish leaders
in the country responsible for the Holocaust...
There's no room in the political debate for remarks that whip up racism or anti-Semitism," Westerwelle said.
"There
are limits to every provocation and Bundesbank board member Sarrazin
has clearly gone out of bounds with this mistaken and inappropriate
comment," Guttenberg added.
Stephan Kramer and
Michel Friedman, leaders in Germany's Jewish community, also criticised
Sarrazin, 65, a member of the centre-left Social Democrats (SPD) and
former finance minister in the city-state of Berlin.
"Someone who tries to define Jews by a genetic make-up is consumed by a racist mania," Kramer said.
"Enough
already!" Friedman wrote in Bild am Sonntag newspaper. (NOTE: This is
Germany's best-selling paper) "No more tolerance for this intolerance.
It's okay to provoke thought but enough of this baiting and defamation.
We don't need any hate preachers, especially in the Bundesbank."
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Albert Einstein
Jude
You must be a Beatles fan.
Finally some Europeans are fed up with the political correctness bullsh*t.
One guy that has the balls to say the truth (Sarrazi) or at least to say what he thinks, and all hell breaks loose, there is no freedom of speach and no tolerance when your opinions are on the wrong side of political correctness.
All he has said can be scientifically, mathematically and logically proven(false or correct) but noooo, here comes the witch hunt squad
Its TABOO baby, dont even speak of it. Free speech costs dearly.
Stay real , its the rich versus the poor.
Besides if it got to be too good on earth, who would want heaven?
"Germany eliminates itself"--low birthrate, lots of moslem immigrants--well duh!
Sarrazin, Saracen. Either way you spell it, the guy can recognize a fellow immigrant/invader when he sees one.
you imply that unchecked immigration in all eras, even those in which genocidal campaigns and culture extinction exist (all), should not be at issue?
Perhaps you are confusing two different things:
- the (legal) right to say what you want, without fear of being jailed
- the feeling that you can't be judged for what you say by anyone
I have my doubts on racial explanations, but if the man perceives Jews to be smarter than he is, they probably are.
is the mafia smarter? No , they just work well together.
Italian mafia? Jewish Mafia? Russian Mafia? Which one.
The newspeak of 21st century Western Europe does not permit the questioning of historically unprecedented immigration.
I live here in Germany(in a 500k city) and between 20% and 33% of people I see on the street(depending on time and place) are 'foreign' most of them Turks, Arabs, Africans (non Caucasian), they usualy stay in groups of their nationality and speak their own languages(between them selves) I feel like living in the Middle East or North Africa at times, it's scary I can't imagine how this will look like in 10 years, probably with Mosques everywhere Immams calling to prayer and Sharia being officially or in officialy enforced, it's not a question of Xenophobia but naked survival.
Then rise up and fight back. It is your only hope.
Do not be silenced by the elites, who want you to submit willingly to racial and cultural annihilation.
You don't know much about Germans I see, an average German would not make waves if he got pushed of a boat and fell into the watter, I hate to say this but post war Germans are a bunch of woosies. You in America have a right and a left well think of 90% of Germans as the equivalent of your average Al Gore, Apple, Peace no War, the Government will save us type, who ask the Government to raise their taxes just a little bit higher just in case the poor are not getting enough
Agreed - as a German ex-pat I can only say that Sarrazin is right on the money and the globalist politically correct media/politician gestapo is sweeping in trying to contain the truth he is spreading. Go Thilo!
You should not call the thing Gestapo but Schaeu-stapo or Mi-Si.
Translation for non-Germans:
Gestapo was Hitlers secret police.
Schaeuble was last minister of internal affairs in Germany while the current Minister of internal affairs, de Misiére, is from Eastern Germany where they had a secret Service called Stasi.
Both seem to like the power the secret police had in the dictatorships.
Sad but true. I have alot of family there, and my cousins are all pretty much gutless leftists by US standards. American occupation has destroyed Germany, now its a nation of weaklings utterly dependent on government and unable to even defend themselves. This man is correct, but the poliltical structure there will shout him down.
gutless leftists by US standards???? Whoa!
Strangely, I wouldn't really mind if they stayed that way.
Sort of in the same way I am happy with Greece being a non-nuclear nation.
+ 10
Then I'm afraid your situation is hopeless.
Germany--or rather Germans--are destined for extinction. Your land, property, and culture will be taken over by Turkish and African immigrants, while your elites continue to consolidate wealth and power at your expense.
I don't know who is flagging Megatoxic's comment, but I suggest they return from the planet Lala to the real world.
I lived in Boston in 1880 and between 20 and 33% of the people I saw on the street were 'foreign', most of them Irish or Italian, they usually stayed in groups of their nationality and speak their own languages (between them selves) I feel like living in Southern Europe at times, it's scary I can't imagine how this will look like in 10 years, probably catholic churches everywhere with bishops calling for prayer and Catholic law being officially or in officially enforced, it;s not a question of Xenophobia but naked survival.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I am with you on this 1, I am as scared of Catholic as of any other organized religion
tmosley
Fucking Micks and Dagos will never assimilate in the US. Christ! Look at those Spaghetti Bender boys growing moustaches to look like their mothers.
Pathetic.
i lived in australia in 1784 and really enjoyed it .
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Wow, 7 people either hate comparisons of historical "invasions", or think I'm a 140+ year old racist from Boston.
Note that the above post is a word for word repeat of the parent post. The US hasn't exactly become a Catholic nation since the "invasion", despite the higher birthrate and the self segregation of "invaders" from Catholic Europe that went on 90-130 years ago.
Really, the only organization that owns more land in the US is McDonalds. Come to think of it the parallels are fantastic. All fat people worship at the golden arches as they are promised internal salvation. The religious go to church, worship and are promised eternal salvation. Both teach of love and then screw you out of money fulfilling an empty promise that leaves you hungry 30 minutes later.
I better stop before i get too carried away, i am making myself laugh in front of the computer. I'm hungry think I'll go to McD's :)
Last time I was in Berlin and Köln I noted the same. Enclaves of Turks & Arabs throughout the city. More troubling was their smoldering hatred of Anglos, particularly those of clean cut GI Joe persuasion. Their anger was palpable. Make no mistake. They are waiting, biding their time. Our German friends best "grow a pair" and start fixing a problem three or four decades in the making while they still can. Surely the land of Bach & Beethoven and Brahms & Schumann can somehow survive without a Döner Kebab stand on every street corner.
I left germany in 63' and recall the griping then of the "turks" and others "taking our jobs". My sister living there now is clueless re elctions, government and finance. Never even heard of silver.
You Germans are all fucked up.
Keeping "the good image"? Who gives a shit about image. It is the survival time for both Europeans and America!
Your great chancellor Bismark was perfectly right: the human history was built on sweat and blood. You fucking Germans thought you are too-good to clean your own toilets. So you needed Turks to do a dirty job. You blame yourselves for killing Jews who were your enemies? Shit, you Germans lost all your marvels.
I remember the famous saying of a Russian soldier in Stalingrad: "Germans are funny people. They came here to Stalingrad in shiny leather shoes. They thought it would be a boardwalk..."
Just look how Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great and Stalin have built Russia.
Just look how America has built its greatness. It was/is an endless sequence of war crimes and invasions.
Just look how China is building its future. Chinese tanks were slaughtering their "too intellectual" students (who were supported by CIA and MI5-6) so China would have the real future. As you see, they were right.
Summary is quite simple: either the white race will survived or it will be gone. The human Darwinism will prevail at the end!
It's amazing that after two world wars, both West & East fail to understand the essential psychological make-up of Germans. (Speaking as someone whose grand-father was chased by a mob in New York during WWI anti-German riots, and a closed-lipped Alsace grand-mother who never revealed anything.)
Let me spell it out for you: Sturm und Drang. Or, as Churchill so eloquently said: "The Hun is always either at your throat or at your feet".
Thanks Hun
so you got junked for speaking the truth. i'm here in small town, Michigan. all the tellers @ the banks branches & @ the local WALMART are from BOSNIA !! How did this happen ? Those jobs used to be the jobs that we housewives took years ago so we could help 'supplement the family income '. something fishy is going on here ....... small town Michigan & i see a woman walking down the sidewalk in traditional / full African robe balancing a 25lb. sack of rice on her head !!! WHERE AM I LIVING, IN AFRICA or MICHIGAN !!?? WHO IS ORCHESTRATING THIS ! ? DO I DARE EVEN SAY THE TRUTH ? DO I DARE MENTION THE NAME GEORGE SOROS & GLOBAL BANKING INTERESTS OR WILL YOU ALL JUNK ME ?! ..... do i dare speak the truth ......... or has our Congress already put in place "hate laws" that prevent the truth from being spoken. Why are the immigration laws so lax here in the U.S. & EUROPE , but in places like AUSTRAILIA they have such strict immigration laws ? .... yea, something fishy is going on alright & we citizens here have nothing to say about it unless we go into revolution .
something fishy is going on here ....... small town Michigan & i see a woman walking down the sidewalk in traditional / full African robe balancing a 25lb. sack of rice on her head !!!
You go Gran! It is high time something is done about those people. And we should speak the truth - We will rally behind the cry of freedom until others do things we disagree with.
"The most striking fact about Weimar was not that the Nazis managed to destroy the Social Democrats and the Communists but that the traditional parties, the Conservative and Liberal parties, were hated and disappeared. It left a vacuum which the Nazis very cleverly and intelligently managed to take over.”
Deutschland Erwache
Comments might have more standing if they didn't come from a guy who, based on his last name, has plenty of Hungarian Jew in him. Just saying.
Es ist Zeit für Rache bitchezzz. Wait what? ;P~~~
"Sarazene" is an old-fashiond German term for Arab.
I know someone that is begging for a copy of Mein Kamp for Christmas.
Unless you're talking about "what I did at summer camp," I think you mean Mein Kampf.
Ha, you would be correct dear sir. Guess my joke lost all of its glory in my horrible delivery.
Mad Max
Obviuosly it was about a camp. Maybe a Bill Murray movie?
This is what you get for telling the truth.
PolishHammer
I just saw Juan Cole claim that Jews are a religion and not a race.
So I offer you Sammy Davis jr as an example who's corpse needs to be tested for that gene referred to.
Judaism is a religion, Jewish people are an ethnic group.
Saying that openly in Germany would brand you and AntiSemite, Xenophobe, Nazi and possibly having wet dreams about your mother
You would also get a visit from the DA via helicopter and 1000s of people lighting a candle in the face of your "neo-nazism". Sadly, freedom of speech is non-existent.
Where is the lack of free speech? He is free to make any outrageous statement he likes (and he did), and people are free to tell him he is a fool.
ITG, there are numerous charges on the way against Sarrazin (we will see about the outcome) and if you compare that to other European politicians previously indicted of hate speech/crimes after bringing up the issue of unprecedented immigration (e.g. Wilders, Winter), then you would not take this broad based reaction (I'd call it slander) that lightly. I agree that some statements could be perceived as provocative or "insensitive", but the fact remains that there is no freedom of speech like (still) here in the US. In fact, I believe a lot of right-wing politicians in the US would not be able to live that freely in Europe - whether one agrees or disagrees with their statements is irrelevant.
I do not understand how the existence of Jewish ethnic groups is disputed. There are indeed distinct Ashkenazi, Mizrahi, and Sephardi communities.
I think what he was trying to say is that Jews are loyal to their tribe, not any country or nation.
When times are tough people circle the wagons and start shooting; when times are good they sit down to table and share food.
I have no idea if that's what he is trying to say, but at least your comment makes sense. It's rather hard to refute, and applies to pretty much all self-identified groups that I've ever seen.
I am sure Sarrazin posts here.
Sarrazin = Israhole
Hating American government=hating white people.
I guess I'm a "self hating white".
No, tmosley, we're Crackers!
Why use shock talk when the facts speak for themselves? How come the USA, UK, the EU, Japan, etc does not attack, or at least place sanctions on Israel, for violating over 60 UN resolutions?
1.Resolution 106: "...‘condemns’ Israel for Gaza raid"
2.Resolution 111: "...‘condemns’ Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people"
3.Resolution 127: "...‘recommends’ Israel suspend its ‘no-man’s zone’ in Jerusalem"
4.Resolution 162: "...‘urges’ Israel to comply with UN decisions"
5.Resolution 171: "...determines flagrant violations’ by Israel in its attack on Syria"
6.Resolution 228: "...‘censures’ Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control"
7.Resolution 237: "...‘urges’ Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees"
8.Resolution 248: "...‘condemns’ Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan"
9.Resolution 250: "...‘calls’ on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem"
10.Resolution 251: "...‘deeply deplores’ Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250"
11.Resolution 252: "...‘declares invalid’ Israel’s acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital"
12.Resolution 256: "...‘condemns’ Israeli raids on Jordan as ‘flagrant violation"
13.Resolution 259: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation"
14.Resolution 262: "...‘condemns’ Israel for attack on Beirut airport"
15.Resolution 265: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan"
16.Resolution 267: "...‘censures’ Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem"
17.Resolution 270: "...‘condemns’ Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon"
18.Resolution 271: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem"
19.Resolution 279: "...‘demands’ withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon"
20.Resolution 280: "....‘condemns’ Israeli’s attacks against Lebanon"
21.Resolution 285: "...‘demands’ immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon"
22.Resolution 298: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s changing of the status of Jerusalem"
23.Resolution 313: "...‘demands’ that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon"
24.Resolution 316: "...‘condemns’ Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon"
25.Resolution 317: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon"
26.Resolution 332: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s repeated attacks against Lebanon"
27.Resolution 337: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violating Lebanon’s sovereignty"
28.Resolution 347: "...‘condemns’ Israeli attacks on Lebanon"
29.Resolution 425: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
30.Resolution 427: "...‘calls’ on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon’
31.Resolution 444: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces"
32.Resolution 446: "...‘determines’ that Israeli settlements are a ‘serious obstruction’ to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
33.Resolution 450: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon"
34.Resolution 452: "...‘calls’ on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories"
35.Resolution 465: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel’s settlements program"
36.Resolution 467: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s military intervention in Lebanon"
37.Resolution 468: "...‘calls’ on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return"
38.Resolution 469: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s failure to observe the council’s order not to deport Palestinians"
39.Resolution 471: "...‘expresses deep concern’ at Israel’s failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention"
40.Resolution 476: "...‘reiterates’ that Israel’s claims to Jerusalem are ‘null and void’
41.Resolution 478: "...‘censures (Israel) in the strongest terms’ for its claim to Jerusalem in its ‘Basic Law’
42.Resolution 484: "...‘declares it imperative’ that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors"
43.Resolution 487: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel for its attack on Iraq’s nuclear facility"
44.Resolution 497: "...‘decides’ that Israel’s annexation of Syria’s Golan Heights is ‘null and void’ and demands that Israel rescind its decision forthwith"
45.Resolution 498: "...‘calls’ on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon"
46.Resolution 501: "...‘calls’ on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops"
47.Resolution 509: "...‘demands’ that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon"
48.Resolution 515: "...‘demands’ that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in"
49.Resolution 517: "...‘censures’ Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon"
50.Resolution 518: "...‘demands’ that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon"
51.Resolution 520: "...‘condemns’ Israel’s attack into West Beirut"
52.Resolution 573: "...‘condemns’ Israel ‘vigorously’ for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters
53.Resolution 587: "...‘takes note’ of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw"
54.Resolution 592: "...‘strongly deplores’ the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops"
55.Resolution 605: "...‘strongly deplores’ Israel’s policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians
56.Resolution 607: "...‘calls’ on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention
57.Resolution 608: "...‘deeply regrets’ that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians"
58.Resolution 636: "...‘deeply regrets’ Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians
59.Resolution 641: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s continuing deportation of Palestinians
60.Resolution 672: "...‘condemns’ Israel for violence against Palestinians at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount
61.Resolution 673: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s refusal to cooperate with the United Nations
62.Resolution 681: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s resumption of the deportation of Palestinians
63.Resolution 694: "...‘deplores’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return
64.Resolution 726: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of Palestinians
65.Resolution 799: "...‘strongly condemns’ Israel’s deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
Do you have any clue as to how the UN works? Any clue whatsoever?
The UN works!?!? Since when?
Exactly.
Who cares about the UN?
The world bank cares.
Since Gulf War I - The USA made the moronic dicision to use the UN to legitimise the stomping of Saddam Hussein insted of just make underhand deals with Russia and China.
This gave the UN all manner of ideas way above it's station: It now sees itself as a Nation-builder, Soon to be World Government and A World Improver. The UN is creating laws, that are enacted on people that never voted on them!
This is very, very bad, given that everyone in the UN is Appointed (for previous services rendered), not Elected and the majority of the UN is in fact failed states and islamic dictatorships now using the UN to boss everyone around.
The UN worked better during the Cold War - because everything the UN did or said would be vetoed by one of the super-powers!
Well it is called the "uhn" for a reason.
UN-useful
UN-reliable
UN-fair
UN-trustworthy
etc.
You forgot UN-der American Influence
Exactly.
. . . and it has never resolved anything despite the endless river of "resolutions." Be it resolved that we resolve to do everything while accomplishing nothing. Amen.
Ah, but we do embezzle money efficiently.
Or do blue helmets rape young African girls more efficiently than green helmets?
Good point. That does seem to be something they are relatively more efficient at.
The UN: #1 in rape by foreign "peacekeepers." Good new slogan for them to use.
What does Israel have to do with this story? You must be a paid pro-pal poster.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Truth, without context, is meaningless.
The UN? You mean the voting club of non-democratic muslim nations? Shut that joke down, and replace it with a forum for democratically elected governments to convene.
The UN...lol.
Today all Jes and their supporters are busy, very busy. That's why they've junked you. Truth is painful.
Luv to watch all the politically connected try and tiptoe thru the tullips w/o offending anyone with their contorted statements and even worse logic.
Everyone wants to think we still live in some sort of make believe world of the rabbit hole in Kansas.
Lookie mommy, I the media have turned another molehill into a mountain so all the semites have punching bag to beat upon.
Gawd, I luv circuses!! Milestones
*cough*Jena*cough*
Using race as an explanation for whatever is NOT the truth. Individuals vary in intelligence. That is the fact, but it is not because of their race. Flame me, junk me, kick my ass, but I'm [not] sorry, you'll have to come up with a better explanation than race.
"Neither the existence nor the size of race differences in IQ are a matter of dispute, only their cause,"
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/04/26/9530.aspx
"Those who have followed recent research on intelligence will find this to be an uncontroversial statement of the current state of scholarship. Those who know about intelligence and heredity only from following the mass media may be surprised to discover how widely these views are accepted by reputable scientists.."
http://mangans.blogspot.com/2005/04/racial-iq-differences.html
Inteligence being only 1 of 1000's things that differet races differ in etc.
Yeas, and the women, they are less intelligent than the man. They have'a the smaller brain. It is science, no?
/Borat
Individual differences far outweigh any difference in "race". 98+% of difference between races can be attributed to variance in culture rather than genes. The remaining 2% is simply vulnerability to certain diseases, which is linked only to where your ancestors lived, and your ancestors did not necessarily look like you do (see African genes that are widespread in Ireland, etc).
Having lived in Ireland a few years, I have no doubt they have a lot of African genes lol
BTW. I am quoting reputable science magazines and you throw Borat at me? was it even serious ?
Actually you were quoting a blog, like this one. Did you know you are a bear/pig/man?
http://www.thinkgene.com/scientists-successfully-create-human-bear-pig-c...
Why not? Your argument (and that of the blog you cite) contains the same logical fallacy.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v457/n7231/full/457788a.html
I can find you articles from Nature, Scientific American, New Scientist, Nobel Prize winers, you name it
Contrary to popular opinion wikipedia has a good section on this with references to real studies by real scientists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
It's not about a logical fallacy concocted by philosophers it's about real life studies by independent scientists
(and feel free it flag this as junk if you think quoting scientific studies is 'junk')
lol, your link said that it should be investigated. Not a word about darkies being stupid to be found.
The ability to learn comes from many different aspects. Choosing a variable as vacuous as "race" as your main predictor is going to lead to nothing positive. You can't really separate "race" from "sociology". If a society has a major anti-intellectual inclination, like the black community in America, and increasingly white communities in America, then of course people are going to get dumber, or pretend to be. Conversely, if you have a society that promotes hard work and study, such as society in general used to do, and asian communities always have, then you get higher IQs. It's as simple as that. The same thing happens in Jewish communities, where children are forced to study, and hard, before they even get to be called a man.
Also, some quotes from your Wikipedia article:
The neutrality of this article is questioned because of systemic bias. Please see the discussion on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the issue is resolved. (April 2010) This article's factual accuracy is disputed. Please see the relevant discussion on the talk page.
Hmmm, the article itself says it is probably biased and based on bad facts.
Come off it. Individual variation in intellect is so great that it completely drowns out any real genetic difference. The fact is that the differences in genes between individuals is greater than that between the so called "races". Race is determined by nothing more than skin color, and the shape of your eyes and nose. That is as deep as it goes. Another fun fact is that Africans from different parts of Africa are more genetically diverse than than some blacks are from any other "race" on Earth. This is because those "races" left early. Their increased genetic diversity would point towards more fitness. Yet Africa is a shit hole. Why? BECAUSE CULTURE DOMINATES GENETICS.
Stop wrapping your racist babble in the cloak of science. I am a scientist, and I know bullshit when I see it.
Azannoth, you are one arrogant little shit , I have no trouble admitting my countrys flaws and defects but Germany is not the fount of all wisdom.
One particularly funny characteristic of the Teutonic mind is the ability to persue failed objectives despite the fact that in the real world they are unworkable - you create wonderful models and then precede to stick the square block in the round hole despite the fact that they are incompatible - you may eventually get the blocks to fit but you completly destroy the mould that you have created to make the system work.
"Azannoth, you are one arrogant little shit" - I can't help but take this as a complement so keep it going
to your defence the Irish are not the only peoples on my 'hate list'
You will have to do better then quote Wikipedia to gain the respect of this Mick - you are doing your countrymen no favours Azannoth.
Ps - a nice little piece of research for your amusement.
Review - Saints, Scholars, and Schizophrenics: Mental Illness in
this area was once my favourite area of Ireland - inhabited by people with flaws but also a certain nobility.
Now the ravages of globalisation have taken its measure of the landscape and its people until there is little left.
But just remember if that village was inhabited by rational automans 6 young Germans would never have seen home again.
homepage.eircom.net/~wrgi/ikg40.html
Brandon Mountain Focke Wulf Kondor Dingle
that and they laugh at the shittest of jokes.. you dont catch the generally funny-as-fuck Irish doing that.
You're proud of being willfully ignorant and close-minded? Why, because it makes you feel good? I'm sorry, ma'am, but that is nothing to be proud of.
aldousd
If each race carries specific genetic coding then race very much matters.
Each race will adapt to their environment and their genes will reflect that.
In the sixties one Black comedian had a joke about talking to God, asking why his skin is Black and God saying so he wouldn't be burned by the tropical sun. Asking why his nostrils are large and flared and god replying so he could run in the tropical heat. Asking why his hair is tightly curled and God responding so he could run through the Jungle with it getting caught in the limbs.
The punchline was then why the fuck am I in Chicago.
Sarrazin is right on, and he is mainly arguing on the basis of culture, not of race - a very important difference (obviously there is a natural overlap between culture and race, but the degree of the overlap can vary massively).
Well that explains Frankfurts hostility to us poor Irish rednecks - on my travels to the Basque country I was always struck by the similarity between the Irish and the Basques although outwardly they were less friendly and spoke a archaic language unlike anything I have ever heard although I remember stumbling into a few mountain village bars and feeling at home almost immediately.
This is a real phenomena although given our history in this bog hole it would be dangerous and foolish to claim superiority over any group - hell the difference between Gaelic western Scotland and the Pictish east can still be felt despite the mish mash of christian religions.
In fact I believe the average Calvinist pict can smell a taig like me at 50 yards - what makes western Scotland so strange is that they forced poor Gaelic souls into Calvinist self harm seminars and completly fucked up their little minds.
It is funny if you keep your distance and are not seen to laugh as to do so is to invite extreme violence on your person.
I'm pretty sure it was the Scots Irish that saved Ireland from--whatever.
Treeplanter
Not heart attacks and alcoholism.
Ourselves ?
Perhaps we were better off we real money, slaves and beer rather then fractional reserve mischief imported by Cromwell and William of Orange.
The calvinists only failure was the beer thingy.
Having said that I have always respected Cromwell republicism and can understand why he uttered those immortal words "to Hell or to Connaught"
Inbred retard
You talking to me , are you talking to me ?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzPBUGUM7KQ
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Looks like the 30s all over again..and the crash hasn’t even hit its height yet..not even close...whether its Mosques in NY.,..or Jews in Germany...it is just an excuse..the real problem are the money worshippers...the scum on Wall Street .The Central Bankers Federal Reserve system..the House of Saud..the Bush Family and its 3 generations of stealing and corruption...just like the 30s..they will look to divide us so as to take the heat off of them..and what they have done......until we realize we are being taken to the poor house by these scum so they can control even more..then we will go to the poor house...It is time to call a spade a spade and these scum as scum..As the story goes in the Bible..Jesus kicked over the table in the Temple of the Money worshippers..he knew they were just corrupt bankers...Just as were the Pharos of Egypt and Just as the Kings of Spain England and France....who have ruled over the ages.....it is the fraud of the ages...they say they have been given the right to rule over us because they are Devine...only a moron would buy into this..or otherwise referred to as sheople...We must get rid of the Federal Reserve and all Central Banking systems....first and foremost and not let these Money Lovers divide us....otherwise it will be WW3......and as Albert Einstein famously said... I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with .sticks and stones…..It is time we kick over the table of the Federal Reserve…….
.Looks like the 30s all over again..and the crash hasn’t even hit its height yet..not even close...whether its Mosques in NY.,..or Jews in Germany...it is just an excuse..the real problem are the money worshippers...the scum on Wall Street .The Central Bankers Federal Reserve system..the House of Saud..the Bush Family and its 3 generations of stealing and corruption...just like the 30s..they will look to divide us so as to take the heat off of them..and what they have done......until we realize we are being taken to the poor house by these scum so they can control even more..then we will go to the poor house...It is time to call a spade a spade and these scum as scum..As the story goes in the Bible..Jesus kicked over the table in the Temple of the Money worshippers..he knew they were just corrupt bankers...Just as were the Pharos of Egypt and Just as the Kings of Spain England and France....who have ruled over the ages.....it is the fraud of the ages...they say they have been given the right to rule over us because they are Devine...only a moron would buy into this..or otherwise referred to as sheople...We must get rid of the Federal Reserve and all Central Banking systems....first and foremost and not let these Money Lovers divide us....otherwise it will be WW3......and as Albert Einstein famously said... I do not know with what weapons World War 3 will be fought, but World War 4 will be fought with .sticks and stones…..It is time we kick over the table of the Federal Reserve…….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
The rest is just agenda.
Only for those without the learning to be able to correctly differentiate a closer look. Many diseases appear more frequently in a given race due to differences in genetic make-up among races (but you need to know the language of genetics to truely understand this sentence). This has been known for some time in the scientific and medical communities. For example:
http://019221f.netsolhost.com/carrierstats.shtml
Statistics are towards the bottom.
If genetic makeup can contribute to disease, can it also contribute to other things (skin color, perhaps. Hair texture. Average height)? On a purely scientific level, I think the question has merit. But I think it is dangerous to debate the question at the political level - simply because most of those who would hear that discourse are not familiar enough with the language of genetics to properly interpret what is being said.
We are all the same "race" dude.
Should have said ethnic group. I know that, and I still screwed up.
wow didn't know that ZH was filled with bunch of isalmofascist and neo nazis. what a bunch of retards
ZH is filled with people who tend not to follow Group Think, even if I dissagree with some people here I respect their opinions as being Their Own, I am not sure you fall into this category
yeah whatever you ignorant pussy..hating seems to be group think with you...I disagree
Azannoth
Really? Cause I see a LOT of group think and very little individuality.
Hi Azannoth,
Just because a group is not thinking it, doesn’t give the idea any implicit de facto importance or worth. Sometimes the group figures it out early that, what is on offer is absolutely worthless to its own progress and betterment. But, certain types of individuals might misinterpret this cumulative wisdom of the group as being the phenomenon of Group-think. They might do this for several reasons, usually personal, and very little to do with an objective study on group psychology, or their proposed intimate knowledge of the said group.
Its clear to me in this case, that you have very little control over what you are thinking and feeling, and now want to apportion responsibility to an imagined group for not also thinking your thoughts. This is the usual problem with racists, they think they are objective quasi-anthropologists, dissecting the world with structured thought developed through their own flexible scientific measures, but they are usually just confused and fanatical. And when the fantasy unravels they start blabbering about groups.
But its really got nothing to do with the group. You would actually be hostile to the group, because you know it would reject you with gusto. You only imagine that you have a problem with the phenomena of group-think, when infact you have a problem with the collective wisdom of the group, you have a personal problem with people. You are a dreadful moron and cant handle the fact that 99.99% of healthy and functioning human beings find your ideas and personality repulsive.
For the record, I am not in the 0.01%.
You must be new.
Well, OrdellRobbie you 've only been here a week. Like I said on another thread yesterday. This place "Jumped The Shark" over a year ago. "Azzanoth" and "Sudden Debt" are the average poster here now. Like most things, the irony of their racial/anti-semitic rantings are lost on them.
I miss the old ZH, I'd wait for the end of the day to read the marvellous, educational comments, enjoy the quicksilver wit and banter, the deep insights pulling from the grand scale of history, literature, poetry...Now I have to wade through this ugly swill to find stuff of value.
Makes me wonder, is the invasion something to do with the blog ops arm of the Koch empire? Tyler needs to be alert to this.
http://blogs.alternet.org/oleoleolson/2010/08/05/massive-censorship-of-d...
I don't see the problem here. Jews are different. Just look at them! Even my dog doesn't likes them.
But that doesn't mean they don't make good classic music.
Even we European have a different gene from the Africans. You won't hear us complain about that difference.
One more comment from you and you IP address goes public...bitch
IP address is serious business.
Will this reply do, or do I need to call you a moron first? :)
No just give me your real name and address..pussy
You first, we could all have tea and discuss this face to face :)
hahaha how old are you? 12? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjWFZPJZTxU
LOL, arpwatch, bitchez!
:) are you seriously making threats on the interwebz?
fucking cretin
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9510/internetargumentzd6.jpg
negligent discharge, or double tapping as we used to call it
Sometimes in my town we throw three europeans in a pit with a bear and a knife. Winner gets to leave the pit, it's good fun and if the euros win, well, they make good flan so we keep them until the next week.
My father survived the big war. He is scared shitless by what he sees happening.
http://williambanzai7.blogspot.com/2010/08/tea-party-round-up_28.html
Germany is a huge and ongoing experiment in psywar since before the end of WWII. The allies set out to implement a program of "Volkserziehung" (re-education of the nation), "Volkspädagogik" (national pedagogy), "Entnazifizierung" (denazification) based on the psywar techniques developed by Marcuse, Horckheimer, Adorno, Tavistock Inst., Bernays, CIA, KGB, MI6 and Renseignements Generaux.
The idea was to do in the German psyche what the Morgenthau Plan intended to do with the German population proper, that is, literally castrate all German males and send them to Russia as slave labor. German women should be, again according to Timmy Geithner forerunner Sec. Treas. Morgenthau, also be sent to Russia to serve as sex slaves and reproduction beasts. Morgenthau failed to turn Germany into a wasteland and liquidate any surviving trace of its people, but post-WWII psywar was quite successful in undermining the German sense of self-preservation. The irony is that the people of the victorious allies could never have expected that Germany was simply the laboratory for the social engineering techniques that would soon be implemented with the same fervor in the US, UK and France.
As to Michael Friedman pontificating Sarrazin, well, this is the man who in 2003 was caught as a ringleader in an operation for the import of Ukranian sex slaves into Germany. The day he was caught with the poor forced prostitutes, he was also in possession a large amount of cocaine. Germans are good learners and have learned well to be good citizens of the American Empire by overcompensating all their real and imagined faults. So Friedman, who has used the name Paolo Pinkel in his trafficking career, got out of jail and of the scandal scott free, despite all incriminating evidence, for the sole reason that he is a Jew.
Western democracy is, after all, minority rule. Welcome to Absurdistan.
Sarrazin, whose party has been on the forefront of immigration policies and in giving Israel the means to mass murder Palestinians and to nuke the German people, is nothing but maintaining the illusion of democratic debate. This is just a sick dog and pony show.
Shylock, you are one sick fuck.
Hotspur:
And I can teach thee, coz, to shame the devil
By telling truth: tell truth and shame the devil.
If thou have power to raise him, bring him hither,
And I'll be sworn I have power to shame him hence.
O, while you live, tell truth and shame the devil!
Shakespeare in Henry IV. Part I, 1597
Okay, we're not too surprised that a big shot Kraut would bash Jews and Turks. But the Basques? I thought they made good fridges and stoves. And they discovered the coast of North America long before Cris Columbo. Smart enough to keep quiet about it and have the cod fishery to themselves for a long time. I think the man should grovel for forgiveness. Unless he included the sheep ranchers of Nevada and Idaho. In that case I advise banishment and confiscation of all his silver and gold.
He's not bashing Basques, that's just what 'they' want you to belive, the said from German (that Jews like Basques have a gene that differentiates them from other nations) which is maybe not that scientificaly correct but not untrue either, but his critics will make you belive that he offended Basques, the Mormons, Santa Clause and your mother personaly
Well, Okay, as long as he doesn't bash Santy Claus, that's the patron saint of New York. Genetic distribution is bizarre. There is a tribe in Brazil the has the same rare blood type as the Cheyenne.
Who knew Sunday afternoon could be so entertaining?
Market truth:
When there is only one Jewish state and forty five Moslem states, guess who the UN is going to excoriate.
Did Assad's Syria get censured by the UN when he wiped out ten thousand of his own people in the early eighties in the city of Hama?
The examples are endless. The point is how easily the criticism goes from being against all non-Europeans in Germany to the state of Israel.
Muslims are welcome to murder other Muslims all they want. It's when the infidel or worse, the Jews, of whom Mohammed was so jealous, kill a Muslim for any reason that the UN has to take notice. The Saudis know how to spread the money around. The UN is mostly about money.
As long as it is "over there", Muslims murdering Muslims, what's not to like?
and this is why the world waits anxiously for the second US civil war ;)
"All Jews share a particular gene," Sarrazin said in an interview.
That's what some of the effected people claim when it's in their interest. Further a lot has been spent in terms of time and money identifying the gene in the male population and tracing who has it around the world. Remember the furor it caused when it showed up in a small tribal segment of a black polulation in sub-saharan Africa? But I guess if you mention that using insensitive language it makes you an anti-semite. Being German automatically puts you in suspicion anyway. Although this guy does look the part though.
Even the Basques? This guy Sarrazin has quite the Macro View!
"Deutsche Welle", as the majority of mass media here in Germany, is run by left-wing dumbasses. No sign of a "nationalistic outbreak that is destined to destroy Germany's image rebuilt in the last 65 years". Or do you think that his statement he would prefer immigration "if it was by eastern European Jews with a 15-percent-higher IQ than the German population" is a xenophobic seizure?
You wrote, "Friedman [leaders in Germany's Jewish community] wrote in Bild am Sonntag newspaper. (NOTE: This is Germany's best-selling paper) No more tolerance for this intolerance." Michel Friedman is an outstandingly trustworthy man. Excerpt from Wiki: "In 2003, Friedman was convicted in a case involving prostitution and drug usage. Friedman had been accused of offering cocaine to Ukrainian prostitutes he had ordered through an escort service that was being investigated for forced prostitution.[1] Friedman's crime was discovered almost by chance, when police wiretaps for the investigation into forced prostitution led them to the name "Paolo Pinkel", which turned out to be Friedman's alias when using the service.[2]" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Friedman)
Forget Friedman, forget Westerwelle, forget newspaper "Bild am Sonntag", forget "Deutsche Welle" and all that crap. If you understand German, read this Sarrazin interview: http://tinyurl.com/3afe7ar
Best from Germany.
Agreed - full ack.
Altough obviously very provocative in the way he delivred the message I can't help but think that M. Sarazin is still raising some very valid points that are unfortunately considered as taboo and as such not ever open for debate.
The most German of Germans were Jewish - the "Germans" we talk about now identified themselves as provincials - the allies have tried to reinforce this identity to weaken the state and kill Bismarks creation with free love and fiat kindness.
France had many languages before it became a nation state - all of these things are constructs - some are sustainable and some are not.
How do you explain yourself that 88% black population still supports ObaMao if not racial support? Of course Sarazin is right. Germany has been alenated by US psywar from the very begining after WWII. There is so much history to cover that is kept locked from the people. We know nothing about our history. However Friedman is a dirty whoremaster, a Zuhälter (proxenete) and nobody in Germany can take a fight with him. I wonder why...maybe I should ask the Central Council of Jews in Germany.
I wonder if zero hedge/ prudent investor have created a piss take to out all the racist blogger on this site - The Bundesbank does have a degree of respect amongst certain circles.
Who is this prudent investor Tyler - is their anymore headlines on this subject ? - or is it being suppressed.
I love the comments from people that think reddish spots on modern gold coins are a sign for rust because of an iron core!
Sarazzin is 95% correct in his assessment and that is better than everyones beloved PC politician. I deduct 5% for ignoring e.g. ethiopian jews. Not that most Jews in Israel would not prefer to ignore them too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel for a read on DNA evidence that these are not belonging to "conventional" jewish population, interesting somehow, isn't it...?
They're not ethnically Jewish, they are converts.
I'd suggest decent German nationals sit back and relax, break out the pop corn and beer and watch the elites (including the jewish) get pulled into full blown islamofascist domestic terrorism coming soon to a mega mosque building German city near you...
Eat lots of pork. Can't go wrong either way!
Sarrazin should be first in line for Trichet's succession. This guy would take care of the mess at the ECB. Forget Axel "The Ax" Weber.
This Sarrazin guy seems the real deal. The name is fitting too. Sounds like the villain in a Star Wars episode.