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Bundesbank Executive Attacks Jews, Turks, Africans et al in Xenophobic Seizure

German Bundesbank executive Thilo Sarrazin has sparked a new uproar by
saying that "all Jews share a common gene" and also attacked the Basques
in Spain the same way in a newspaper interview.

This comes only a few days after Sarrazin came under fire in Germany for
using shock talk about the country's Muslim immigrants, Turks, Middle
Easterners and Africans when he presented a new book.

Sarrazin’s new book, whose title translates as “Germany Eliminates
Itself,” sparked a heated debate. A spokesman of the Bundesbank so far
only said that the book is Sarrazin's personal opinion, not exactly
distancing itself from Sarrazin's xenophobic bouts.

His frothy statements were immediately rebutted by foreign minister
Guido Westerwelle and minority representatives. A spokesman for
chancellor Angela Merkel began his Sunday with expressions of outrage.

Sarrazin is still on the job after an interview with conservative German Sunday paper "Welt am Sonntag" where he extended his attacks to Jews.
German official news outlet Deutsche Welle was the first to report on
Sarrazin's nationalistic outbreak that is destined to destroy Germany's
image rebuilt in the last 65 years.

Sarrazin appears to have wild mood swings. In 2009, the central banker,
who is a member of the Social Democratic Party (SPD), had said he would
prefer immigration "if it was by eastern European Jews with a
15-percent-higher IQ than the German population."

His new book, to appear on shelves this week, claims that immigration
from Turkey, the Middle East and Africa would dumb down his country and
led him to draw a line between Christian culture and the rest.

From Deutsche Welle:

German central bank executive Thilo Sarrazin has stirred
fresh controversy over the weekend with discriminatory remarks
concerning religious minorities.
"All Jews share a particular gene," Sarrazin said in an interview. "That makes them different from other peoples."
Sarrazin, who is currently promoting his book "Deutschland schafft sich
ab", remained undeterred in expressing his views despite criticism and
calls for his resignation from the board of the Bundesbank.
The cultural peculiarities of the peoples is no myth, but determines the
reality of Europe," Sarrazin told the newspapers Welt am Sonntag and
Berliner Morgenpost.
Berlin's former finance chief has said in the past that Muslims living
in Germany do not contribute to the country's economic prosperity,
reducing their role to the running of fruit and vegetable stands.
He reiterated his view that Muslim immigrants all over Europe were
integrating more poorly than other immigrant populations into the
societies of their host countries.

In 2009, the
central banker, who is a member of the Social Democratic Party (SDP),
had said he would prefer immigration "if it was by eastern European Jews
with a 15-percent-higher IQ than the German population."
The Jewish community in Germany reacted with indignation to Sarrazin's attempts at racial profiling.
Whoever tries to define Jews by their genetic makeup, even when it is
superficially positive in tone, is in the grip of a race mania that Jews
do not share," said Stephan Kramer, secretary of the Central Council of
Jews in Germany.
While Sarrazin made reference in his interview to the alleged unique
genetics of social groups, he also claimed he was not racist. It was not
ethnicity, he said, but rather the culture of Islam that kept Muslims
immigrants from integrating into European societies.
Germany's Foreign Minister, Guido Westerwelle, responded to Sarrazin's
latest comments, saying statements "that promote racism or anti-Semitism
have no place in political discourse." 

Radical speech

Roland
Koch, the outgoing premier of the German state of Hesse, told the
newspaper Bild am Sonntag that Sarrazin was pushing himself into the
margins of politics. Koch recognized that the banker was "addressing
existing problems that society mustn't ignore," but added that he
obviously appeared to be concerned only with pursuing "radical speech
and the breaching of taboos."
Before Sarrazin's latest statements were published, the chairman of
Germany's Turkish Federation had called for Sarrazin to be removed from
his post. Meanwhile, a spokesman for Chancellor Angela Merkel and
Germany's integration commissioner Maria Boehmer expressed outrage at
Sarrazin's statements.
Christian Gaebler of the SDP told news magazine Spiegel that if Sarrazin
did not willingly leave the party, he and other members would "begin
procedures to expel him from the party."
Sarrazin has claimed his views toe the party line. Other parties, he
said, would prefer to see immigrants kicked out of Germany, whereas he
claimed to advocate integration.

Looking at my calendar I
see the date of August 29, 2010. Sarrazin's version must be from 1938.
Berlin's local SPD organisation has initiated a move to expulse Sarrazin from the party.

Finance minister Schaeuble had said on last week to Bloomberg,
he was ashamed of Sarrazin. A Merkel spokesman had called Sarrazin's
views that migrants are making Germany “dumber,” are “not helpful at
all” and “can be hurtful for a lot people.”

IMHO it would be most opportune if we keep religion out of politics. Europe has never fared well on that path.

UPDATE: Reuters quotes a Bundesbank spokesman, saying

they are his personal opinions and not linked to his role at
the bank. The central bank requires evidence of "serious misconduct" to
bring about Sarrazin's dismissal.

The central
bank last year stripped Sarrazin of some of his duties. If the central
bank's board voted to remove Sarrazin, the move would then need the
approval of the president.

and summarized the outrage in official Germany:

Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle and Defence Minister
Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg said Thilo Sarrazin was out of line for
comments about Jews, remarks that were also criticised by Jewish leaders
in the country responsible for the Holocaust...

There's no room in the political debate for remarks that whip up racism or anti-Semitism," Westerwelle said.

"There
are limits to every provocation and Bundesbank board member Sarrazin
has clearly gone out of bounds with this mistaken and inappropriate
comment," Guttenberg added.

Stephan Kramer and
Michel Friedman, leaders in Germany's Jewish community, also criticised
Sarrazin, 65, a member of the centre-left Social Democrats (SPD) and
former finance minister in the city-state of Berlin.

"Someone who tries to define Jews by a genetic make-up is consumed by a racist mania," Kramer said.

"Enough
already!" Friedman wrote in Bild am Sonntag newspaper. (NOTE: This is
Germany's best-selling paper) "No more tolerance for this intolerance.
It's okay to provoke thought but enough of this baiting and defamation.
We don't need any hate preachers, especially in the Bundesbank."

 

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Sun, 08/29/2010 - 16:59 | 551787 Segestan
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German Bundesbank executive Thilo Sarrazin has sparked a new uproar by saying: 

 

+ 1000

 Finally an honest person.

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 19:20 | 551974 Hunch Trader
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Agreed. Must understand the european context. White Europe IS eliminating itself.

 

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 17:17 | 551811 Gunther
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The article is mis-reporting the real discussion in Germany and mis-quoting Sarrazin.

 

The only true statement is that there is heated debate.

If his statements were refuted by the Minister of Foreign Affairs, keep in mind that this guy, Westerwelle, is less popular in Germany the Obama with US Republicans.

The statement that Sarrazin seems to have “wild mood swings” results from taking his statements out of context. Those statements are about dumbing-down Germany. He states that on average low class people living in Germany have more kids and that on average low-class people have a lower IQ. Combine those arguments and it leads to dumbing down. Smart people immigrating are apparently welcome if becoming stupid is a problem.

 

If a Politician like Roland Koch uses moral arguments, he should start with himself.

Ten years ago the CDU in Hessen, where Koch was prime minister, got some illegal money for financing. The official cover-up was that those were “Jewish Legacies” (Links in German:

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/empoerung-ueber-angebliche-juedische-vermaechtnisse-hessens-ministerpraesident-roland-koch-entschuldigt-sich-fuer-die-legende/117086.html# http://de.indymedia.org/2010/05/282221.shtml)

 

 

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 18:24 | 551907 prudentinvestor
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All Sarrazin quotes are sourced and verified.

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 19:13 | 551964 Gunther
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... and put together in a misleading way.

edit (Interview in German:)

http://www.faz.net/s/Rub594835B672714A1DB1A121534F010EE1/Doc~E56B1E17FEB...

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 17:41 | 551836 MacedonianGlory
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Globalization is collapsing

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 18:16 | 551890 Yardfarmer
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a most interesting, dismaying, scintillating, depressing and enlightening thread of the sometimes commendable but mostly execrable gallimaufry exuding from some alternately really warped and inspired and yet all resolutely determined specimens of the wicked biped race. my hat is off to you all. aside from all of the various venting of ascerbic spleen and blackly humorous reverberations emanating from this chaos, one simple unmentioned determinant reigns supreme and unchallenged-known to our scientific community as demographics.

we all know that due to the indefatigable efforts of our dear eugenicists and race theorists from Charles Davenport and Margaret Sanger to William Draper and Frederick Osborne and the Bush family, a bewildering array of programs, pharmaceuticals, and surgical procedures have been deployed to purge the inferior stocks which have deplorably sullied and polluted the pristine streams of the pure bloodlines with rampant breeding and interbreeding. And be advised that the white race itself was the major recipient of concentrated attempts to regulate the unchecked production of the mentally and socially inferior. witness the mass sterilization of 60,000 assorted dimwits, semi-cretins and addlepated, mentally retarded caucasians during the 20s. I daresay this is not an issue of race alone but merely a program for the hopefully painless euthanasia of the most undesirable members of our species.

That this came to involve the delimitation of the Negro race in the US by a rigorous though initially unsuccessful program of artificial contraception's is simply an expression of the imperatives of the preservation of the more useful and productive members of our species, whatever their particular racial orientation might be. The wildly successful reduction of the Negro population in the US by application of the Guttmacher nuclear option of abortion combined with the implementation of George H.W. Bush's preference for surgical sterilization throughout South and Central America, Africa and Central Asia has produced optimum results in the reduction of surging yet undesirable populations.

Alas, along with the equally successful stabilization and actual core diminishment of the Anglo and Hispanic populations of the US and Europe proper, an exponential rise in the populations of both the US Latino immigrant and Central European Islamic migrant population has been experienced. A similar situation confronts Israel in the Middle East with a Palestinian demographic explosion. Apparently the designs of our eugenic social engineers have either failed miserably or perhaps gone quite according to plan given the prevalent exposure of a hidden agenda aimed at reducing the population of the former industrial Western nations and all the while bringing about an engineered social chaos with the admixture of growing and unsustainable levels of rapidly breeding immigrant populations.

 

 

 

 

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 18:24 | 551908 lynnybee
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by the way, how come ISRAEL isn't bankrupt ?    you know what DR. PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS says, "Israel owns the U.S. Government." ......... hey ! if he can say it, I can say it !!   

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 22:45 | 551909 lynnybee
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sorry .... hit the 'send' button twice by mistake.

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 18:44 | 551927 DosZap
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As an American whose ancestors came here in 1820 from Germany, and as part Native American, I find one thing ever present.

How many World Wars have we had, and WHO The Fk started all of them?.

Fkin Nazi mentality  just won't die.

Newsflash, we all know of the internment in the USA of all Japanese Americans during WWII.

What most people do not know, is FDR(scumscking pig supreme), intended to do the same to all of  the Americans of German descent.

Alas, he could not...........they were too numerous.

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 19:06 | 551963 dark pools of soros
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so saying that Jews have, on avg, a HIGHER IQ, that is anti-semitism ??

 

how is that ANTI??  Do jews even exist?? If they are the same as everyone else, then why still keep calling everything they own Jewish this and Jewish that??  

 

So to conclude.. the rest of the world has to act like jews are the same (better or worse, yes they can play in the NBA too, don't you dare say they can't) yet in their inner world, they are the Chosen People...

 

American Indians would easy play the 'forked tongue' card

 

 

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 19:26 | 551984 Hunch Trader
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In 1984, you are not supposed to see a 'group' anymore.

If you can be made to believe that groups don't exist, then you cannot be hostile towards any group.

(Un)fortunately, that doesn't forbid any group to be (covertly) hostile towards yourself.

 

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 20:37 | 552048 dark pools of soros
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wise

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 20:34 | 552043 Reese Bobby
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"He reiterated his view that Muslim immigrants all over Europe were integrating more poorly than other immigrant populations into the societies of their host countries."

Well I live in NYC and that statement is just, I mean really, disturbingly, completely true.

 

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 21:01 | 552077 tmosley
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Everyone has always thought that to be the case for any new group of immigrants.  Whether they were Irish, Italian, Eastern European, or now Arabic.  Similar to how bandstand, then jazz, then rock, then metal music was thought to be evil and corrupting the minds of minors.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 21:57 | 552087 Suisse
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You have no idea, in the U.S. those brought in historically were quite similar.  Do you think Blacks as a whole have really ever integrated into the mainstream?

 

Why don't you look at how religious these groups are and their educational attainment (or lack thereof).

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 21:58 | 552145 tmosley
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Blacks are a different story because they were a, brought as slaves, b, the target of reactionary laws, and c, forcibly excluded from many aspects of society on a persistant basis, where eventual government overreaction took it too far in the opposite direction, creating a generation that now feels like they are owed something. 

We can choose to go down the same road with Arabs that we did with blacks, or we can choose to go down the path we took with the Irish, Italians, and Eastern Europeans.  Enact laws to segregate yourselves from them at your own peril, Westerners.

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 23:51 | 552254 Hulk
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Journey of man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV6A8oGtPc4

We all bros! Ruby Begonia!

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 04:46 | 552463 fajensen
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Enact laws to segregate yourselves from them at your own peril, Westerners.

Problem is that all human-created laws are per default "segregating" against muslims, who must follw the superior "gods law" or be considered un-muslim, maybe even an apostate, which will then earn them a thorough knifing by the local fanatics inhabiting the ghetto!

Irish, Italians and Eastern Europeans were eventually integrated via their respective mobs - the muslims also create mobs, but their aim is not integration but conquest. It is a whole different game!

PS: The good side of the recession it that with taxes going off a cliff there will be less social security to sponge up in the future which should put a plug in the mass immigration pibeline!

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 08:51 | 552624 tmosley
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Problem is that all human-created laws are per default "segregating" against Catholics, who must follw the superior "gods law" or be considered un-Catholic, maybe even an apostate, which will then earn them a thorough knifing by the local fanatics inhabiting the ghetto!

 

I really don't see how you idiots can think these two groups are any different.

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 10:19 | 554669 fajensen
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I really don't see how you idiots can think these two groups are any different.

I really dont see any catholics rioting and burning cars because someone cracks a Jesus-joke in a newpaper written in a language that they do not understand.

I still dont see any catholic street gangs mugging teenagers for their mobile phones and cash cards.

I have never experienced catholic drug dealers killing their teenage daughters for bringing shame on the family for having the wrong "race" boyfriend:

I know you probably do, but you are obviously delusional (or buggered by a catholic priest)!

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 08:21 | 552596 Hephasteus
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There is nothing wrong with segregation when it's time for it. You have to have a safe place that's all your own before you can go out to wider spheres and integrate.You can study that with Jonny bravo. For instance when jonny bravo is sitting in his CONonomic class and the teacher says what is inflation and he goes it's GROWTH and his teacher says good job turd. He's safe and isolated. Then when he comes out here he can try to apply those teachings to the larger community. He get's beat up a bit but I don't think anyone is going to kill him. He's pretty safe.

The isolation integration process works to some extent. Though during the european process of it you got a bunch of new york burroughs of irish, english, italian etc etc. Since they are from europe and used to living close to each other like that they did what they did before. Ganged up on each other and started roving gangs that tried to subdue and overpower the other groups. Then one became dominant and took over government of new york and became "legitimized".

Blacks and native americans and eskimo's etc. Only operate in a tribal structure. Unfortunately most are too honest and straightforward to make the jump from maintaining that structure to the sociopathic expression of pretending to care about the groups interests. The ultimate end game of all the restructuring will be yanking sociopths from every group and pretending to be representin' thier group. While they are really just dominating and subordinating and making big promises that they can't and won't keep. Then you have 2 classes of people. Like take a person you've met them with big ideas that needs help and other people resources and expertise to achieve them and nothing ever comes from it. Then you have government who have the same big ideas and big plans but they have the banking system backing them up so they are able to fool some people into "joining up" because they get something out of it. Paid immediately.

So it's really just a legitimization play. The banks want to choose and legitimize the best sociopaths from the bunch to enable and act out plans that will never work instead of the little guy or girl who won't get any resources. It doesn't always work like with Linux. So they keep trying to kill that so they can force those resources to join their gang.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 00:41 | 552326 Arm
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I would normally agree, but all prior immigrant groups were Christian.  This is a major difference. 

Islam is a different value system, which is largely intolerant to other grouops. You cannot welcome that into a Western Society.  You cannot compare to a person of Muslim faith who holds the belief that others are Dhimini too be tolerated only as long as there are not enough Muslims to impose Sharia. 

My experience is that Muslim groups in small groups will over time assimilate to local customs. I've met more than my share of young Muslim men and women who are completely Western in thought... until they meet up with other Muslims or with family members.

The problem really is when they form a ghetto that reinforces their more extreme religous views.  Unfortunately, that is what you have in France and England right now.  France is probably past the point of no return.

 

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 01:29 | 552373 tmosley
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Right, because there was never any Confucians, Buddists, Hindus, or any other wacky bunch that ever set foot on our shores.

Muslims are just like Jews and Christians.  They have the same values and beliefs (short of who is the son of God and who isn't).  They are just as extreme in their religious fervor.  Both have and continue to invade countries based on religion.  How many countries have been invaded by Muslims on religious grounds in the last hundred years?  One?

But hell, they're brown and different.  I say we kill em all.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 08:14 | 552591 Hunch Trader
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They will practice taqiyya to make you believe whatever. However they will never waver from their principles of establishing an islamic society. Islam is god, law, rule and morals all in one. There is nothing else.

In the end what you get is Saudi Arabia, where you will not even be permitted to build a house of worship for any other religion. And if they had their way, any other religion would not even exist.

There is a steady invasion going on all the time all over the world, financed by Saudi money.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 08:55 | 552631 tmosley
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Jesus Christ, do you even know any Muslims?

Quit making shit up.  You're a one-liner away from rounding up anyone who is different and putting them into death camps because "they are scary", "thay can't be reasoned with", "they only want one thing, no matter what they or anyone else says", "they are all the same", etc.

Just shut the fuck up.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 09:25 | 552684 fajensen
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I do. One of them told me why he did not, after all his campaigning, run as a candidate for the Social Democrats; A guy with wahhabbi-beard turned up at his doorstep and pointed a pistol at his head!

The crazies are successfully ursurping themselves as The Moderate Speakers for All Muslims(tm), whether the aformentioned muslims like it or not, the government supports them, listens to their "concerns" so the delicate "sensibilities" are not disturbed and they start burning cars and stuff! What is a normal muslim person to do when it is clear that the government is listening to the crazies??

The muslims in the media are just the approved fronts for Saudi Wahabbism; normal muslims are not represented because they do not like to have their car torched, their children beaten up in school, or maybe getting fatally stabbed during a street robbery, this stuff happens ALL the time.

Our taxes @ work!

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 20:37 | 554051 laosuwan
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Quit making shit up. 

 

I think what he is saying is true according to the teachings of all four major islamic schools. It is uncomfortable to realize this but it is true.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 14:36 | 553368 Arm
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I know many, many Muslims and have even been in Jeddah.  You must understand three things:

1) Muslims behave differently when they are alone in a foreign society than when they are in their native social setting.  Social pressure is immense.  This is why you have all these stories of Western women marrying nice Muslim men, but then going to live to Iran only to see their husbands change.  Same as in my former college.  Alone, they are great fun and will go out drinking.  When in society they will disown their own Western behavior.  This is why a little Muslim immigration is NOT a problem. I welcome it.  The problem is when they form self-perpetuating ghettos.

2) Very importantly, Islam does not believe in the separation of Church and State.  There is no "give unto Caesar".  Sharia law is mandatory, not optional. 

3) Read the Koran. Unlike, Jesus, Confucius or Vishnu, Mohammed is a prophet who goes around on a horse forcefully converting others and killing those who did not.  It is an evil, violent book.

The Crusades were a deep perversion of Christian faith because Jesus was specifically against violence.  However, in Islam you don't need to be too extremist to advocate violence against non-believers. In fact, the main difference amongst "moderate" and "fundamentalist" Islamic scholars are amongst those that believe Dhimini (People of the Book) can be tolerated but not allowed to preach, and those who believe that Dhimini should be forcefully converted.  Incidentally, all other religions apart from the other 3 Abrahamic faiths cannot be tolerated.

Once again.  I'm not a racist.  I don't care what color they are (and there are plenty of White and Asian Muslims by the way).  What I care about is that their value system is not compatible with an open, Western society.

Visit Saudi Arabia and you will understand (you have to go on business because tourism is forbidden)

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 21:10 | 552091 laosuwan
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Turks, Middle Easterners and Africans when he presented a new book. Sarrazin’s new book, whose title translates as “Germany Eliminates Itself,” sparked a heated debate.

 

Having recently returned from a trip to Germany I would say what he said is not xenophobia but a simple admission of the truth; Germany will become a muslim state in ten of 15 years. Native German people and their culture will become extinct, in Germany. This is why we dont allow immigration here in Thailand. People are outraged he would say this only because they know it is true but cannot summon the courage to say it, themselves.

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 21:19 | 552102 Suisse
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5% of Germany practices Islam. How can it turn in to a muslim state in 10 to 15 years?

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 00:49 | 552340 Arm
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So it was in Lebanon at the turn of the Twentieth century.  Ok, 10 years is too early, but have you ever heard of compound growth?  

In 40 years France could be a majority Muslim nation just from native births.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 01:30 | 552377 tmosley
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Lebanon wasn't Muslim in 1900?  I'm going to need a source on that.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 14:17 | 553327 Arm
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Ok, I did not have time to Google a more academic source but here is a reference.

http://phoenicia.org/christiansmea.html 

In the XIX century Lebanon was 85% Christian (Maronite's).  If you add the Lebanese diaspora in Brazil, Mexico et al, to this day Lebanese Christians far outnumber Muslims.

Muslims started advocating Sharia when they became slightly more than 40% of the population in the 1960's.  Christian population fell due to immigration, declining birth rates, Palestinian immigration and finally their civil war. (Christians found it a lot easier to  immigrate during the war than Muslims)

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 07:30 | 552468 fajensen
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They achieve Critical Mass - The Nazis needed less than 10% of the population as active supporters to seize power; The same with the Communists in Russia or Pol Pot in Cambodia; few people are needed if they are violent and crazy enough, the majority of the population will refuse to see what is happening right outside in the street because they hope that it will pass away and leave them in peace if they only ignore it - or worse: Give concessions to the crazies in the hope that they will stop being what they are.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 07:48 | 552566 laosuwan
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The official statistics are 5% or about 3.5 million muslims in Germany. This however is does not include guest workers, non citizens, and illegal aliens. The true number is probably double the official number. More than 50% of ethnic or native germans are over the age of 40 and their birth rates are negative. Muslim birth rates are averaging 6 per thousand vs. 0.9 for native Germans. Most of the muslims in Germany are under the age of 40. When you do the math you get a muslim majority in about 20 years. I think its closer to 5 or 10 because there is no move to check immigration so the rate of change is accelerating upwards for mulsims and downwards the natives.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRTHSP0AWE0

 

The effects of muslims on the german state are already being felt at 5%. Imagine 20 to 30%. Its too late for Germany; its irreversable.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB13y2py0V4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxAf_t0_IB8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD5k0YTcbH0

Sun, 08/29/2010 - 21:39 | 552127 Remington IV
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Fourth Reich .... starring a lot of posters ?????

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 00:20 | 552298 laughing_swordfish
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Re: Our Own Experience.

Herr Sarrazin is completely accurate with respect to the Islamization of Germany and other nations of Europe.

Basically, the problem both in Europe and in the U.S. is permitting the unlimited immigration of non-white, non-English (or German) speaking minorities, who are in turn encouraged not to assimilate and not to acquire the language and customs of the country to which they have moved.

Rather, they are encouraged, financially, politically, and otherwise to continue the customs, language, and habits of the Third World nations from whence they came, and to force those customs on the native population, which was not consulted and continues to have no say in these elite-encouraged migrations of backward Third World peoples.

In Europe, it is creeping Islamization - in the U.S., creeping Latinoization.

And if you think that Mexico is somewhat peaceful and benign compared to Muslim countries, just take a look at what's going on over there. Ciudad Juarez (acroos from El Paso TX) looks like nothing so much as Baghdad West, with more casualties from car bombs and shootings in the last year than in Baghdad Iraq.

And just as the violence and disorder in Muslim nations will spill over into Europe (indeed, it already has), so also will the drug-fueled insurrection in Mexico spill over here, as immigrant Latinos pick and choose sides among the duelling cartels - with Americans caught in the crossfire.

Thilo Sarrazin speaks to a growing realization among ordinary Volk here and in Europe that their globalized, enervated elites have sold them out in the name of the bankrupt ideologies of Global Socialism and Political Correctness...

 

"Deutschland Erwache.... Amerika Erwache !"

(Gremany Awake ... America Awake !)

 

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Mon, 08/30/2010 - 00:29 | 552309 Arm
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Stabs at Latino's are in fact mostly racist dribble. This is exactly how you distinguish the educated thinking population from the mindless biggots.

Latino's share the exact same judeo/greco/christian value system.  Only difference is that they are less educated.  That can be easily fixed and is not destabilizing.  Case in point is Spain, which consciously brought in South American immigrants to avoid Muslims from Morrocco. Sure, some of the labor they displace does not like them, but they are in no way politically destabilizing.

Also, it is nice you point out Mexico, but you seem to conveniently forget that Mexico has been unstable for only 5 years. There is a mighty large continent called South America which is currently economically booming and is relatively peaceful.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 00:21 | 552300 Arm
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"Freedom is the right to say that 2 plus 2 is 4, all other freedoms come after"

It may not sound pretty, but what Sarrazin stated is scientific FACT.

- Jewish populations do exhibit close genetic relation.  Jewish and Indian people have been found to have on AVERAGE a higher prevalence of a gene linked to intelligence.  And yes, they appear to have a higher average IQ.

- Muslim immigrants are indeed not adapting to the values of their host nations in Europe.

 

The integration of Muslim Europe will be the single most important topic for world stability within the next 30 years. If Europe considers that its Christian derived values are worth keeping, they will have to take some form of action now.  If not, then no problem just stay the course.

 

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 20:31 | 554035 laosuwan
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the europeans have abandoned their christian religion and are committing suicide. every time i go to europe i visit the old churches to see their architecture and there is never more than ten people in them, if that. usually they are empty except on sunday when there are small numbers of old people attending. Some small children. 

My impression of European youth and young adults is that they are mostly drugged out on ecstacy, narcassistic, and live off their parent's wealth. This is generalizing of course but its the impression they give me in the main. 

But muslims are required to pray five times a day or risk being labeled as heretics and pressured by their community. they are free t marry native women but muslim women are not free to marry native men. everything they do and how they live makes it pretty clear to me they are there not to integrate but to overwhelm.

I worry less about the loss of europe's culture and civilization. I know that will happen; look at what the saudis and arabs organized in Afghanistan with the buddha statues. Think of what they will do to Rome. That is a given. What I worry about is Europe's nuclear aresenal coming under their control. Then it is really lights out for USA and Canada and the stage is set for a final showdown with China vs. arab. this is not a good world vision to leave for one's grandchildren.

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 04:54 | 554705 fajensen
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My worry is what we will eventually become, we know how it it will go but prefer to ignore it because once we dont, life becomes very unpleasant. On the present trajectory the European population will inevitably rise up again and elect angry men as their leaders. When that happens, he muslims will go the same way as the jews. The USA will yet again follow their Saudi master's orders and bomb Europe into submission like they did to Serbia.

The real, original, soul of Europe is preserved in the Balkans, what you see in western Europe is just the veneer, buffed to perfection through coercion and social engineering - you will not get a job, f.ex., in Europe openly having the wrong oppinions.

But, once the economy goes down the drain and the middle class goes bust the laid-back veneer comes off and trouble starts for real: You are never going to get a job anyway because of the recession; you see that the politicians are openly selling your rights out at every opportunity to islamic interests - then, suddently, not much is lost by openly joining the local right-wing nationalists and maybe get some jail time on the CV torching some mosques. Who cares, its not like jail is going to make things worse?

Even the politically-correct Danes will, quite literally, die fighting rather than living under Islams yoke! They prefer not to but they absolutely will when it becomes the only option.

I hope that the Euro, and with it the entire EUSSR, collapse long before then; otherwise, we are so screwed!

 

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 01:04 | 552353 yabs
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too right
the muslims are not the problem

Zionist jews who control the world through money are.

Shalom Bernanke, Greenspan, Goldman sachs to name a few

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 20:19 | 554011 laosuwan
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We can avoid the Bernake's of the world, even profit from them, because we are free to visit ZH and educate ourselves. under islam there is no choice and that is the threat we are all under if it grows. 

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 03:39 | 552446 Broken Window
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had said he would prefer immigration "if it was by eastern European Jews with a 15-percent-higher IQ than the German population."

 

Sounds like Hitler.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 05:00 | 552471 fajensen
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Sounds like Hitler.

Hitler went to the crapper daily, often twice daily. Does that, by the same analogy, make taking a dump evil?

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 05:12 | 552497 Broken Window
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Yes, if by "taking a dump" you mean stuffing shit back up in your arse.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 05:49 | 552513 yellow submariner
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Has zero hedge a racistic bias?

Sarrazin gives his ugly talks about muslims since more than a year, but zero hedge did not report a word. As soon as he says a word about jews, zero hedge responds.

BTW: Sarrazin became treasury secretary in Berlin after the Soros-coup in late 2001 *LOL*.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 07:20 | 552547 laosuwan
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what race, exactly, is islam?

 

Dont worry, there is plenty of jew bashing on ZH.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 07:31 | 552557 yellow submariner
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"what race, exactly, is islam?"

Nice point :-).

However if someone is disparaging jews as a whole, he is commonly called a racist. In the same way someone only reacting if jews are disparaged is a racist too ;).

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 20:22 | 554016 laosuwan
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However if someone is disparaging jews as a whole, he is commonly called a racist.

 

Correct. Unless, of course, the person is a muslim. They are never called racist when they disparage jews. Why is that?

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 07:44 | 552564 yabs
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If Hitler had been allowed to finish the job

the world would be a much better place

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 08:35 | 552602 Hunch Trader
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Islamists are the new brownshirts.

Just wondering when the eventual backlash finally starts, but then again it was a long road through Saarland, Ethiopia, Spanish civil war, Japanese invasion of China, USSR and Mongolia, Sudetenland and rest of Czechoslovakia...even invasion of Poland didn't result in any concrete action.

Islamists support total war, and view rule-based warfare only as a showing of weakness. The influx of fighters to Afghanistan will never end, Pakistan alone can birth more fighters than US troops can kill.

The war will be eternally unwinnable unless Islam as religion is fundamentally changed as in re-editing Quran, or completely destroyed. Anything else, will be just a concession which lets them rearm and birth more fighters; a voter is also a fighter.

Anywhere in the western world, when islamists gain 50,1% voting majority, expect sweeping changes latest by then. In practice, intolerable harassment and terrorism has already begun long before.

 

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 08:57 | 552637 tmosley
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And they eat Christian babies!  Tehy sneak into my house at night and move my cheese and rape my dog!

We've got to kill them all before they make sausages out of our hamsters!

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 08:43 | 552615 tamboo
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relocating them only to execute them makes absolutely no sense.

the bolshies just shot folks in the back of the head, threw them in a ditch and called it a

day. the sign at auschwitz reads 'work will make you free', not 'death

will make you free'; think about it.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 09:35 | 552701 fajensen
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The bolchies did not understand that value can be created for special insiders and cronies around a service economy: The Nazis charged people for the transport to the death-camps, Then they charged them for the stay there and when they couldn't pay, they of course had to work of the bill in the company shoppe. When the abundance of work killed them, they were rendered down for soap, matress stuffing and lampshades.

Nowadays, employers and politicians like to refer to people as "ressources" .... wonder where they got that idea from??

Tue, 08/31/2010 - 10:49 | 555117 Shylockracy
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"...soap, matress stuffing and lampshades..."

For yor information, and so that you do not fall victim of this historical fabrication again:

In regard to the human soap story, darling of the establishment media and virulent anti-revisionist Deborah Lipstadt noted in 1981 "The fact is that the Nazis never used the bodies of Jews, or for that matter anyone else, for the production of soap." ("Nazi Soap Rumor During World War II," Los Angeles Times, May 16, 1981, p II/2.) Michael Berenbaum, former director of the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, now supervising Steven Spielberg's taxpayer-funded Holocaust remembrance project, admitted in 1994, "there is no evidence, despite widespread reports, that human fat was used for soap. The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum tested several bars of soap reported to be composed of human fat but no such fat was found." (Y. Gutman, M. Berenbaum, Anatomy of the Auschwitz Death Camp, Indiana University Press, Bloomington and Indianapolis, 1994, p.80.) One would clearly think that the case is closed, and that further repetition of these propaganda stories would constitute nothing more (and nothing less!) than arrant anti-German bigotry.

http://www.codoh.info/newrevoices/nwidmann/nwidsoap.html

 

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 11:08 | 552848 malek
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I am not sure why such a kind of guest post - dripping of political correctness, but actually being hate speech against the messenger, without ever arguing on any real detail - shows up on ZH.

Mon, 08/30/2010 - 17:17 | 553737 10 Euro Münze
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I live in Germany and am an American Ex-pat.  I read the article in German in one of the magazines here last week.  

I thought the guy was basically right one.    Many single high skilled Germans leave the country since the  taxes for the producers are punishing.  It takes two normal working people to pay the taxes that support one welfare case here.  I'm an normal engineer, single and I get to take home 50% of my check after all is said and done.   

Sure there is a lot of German white trash, but you also see a lot of low income immigrants.  Many of the immigrants come in under the political asylum law, and then can live from the state.   I always had the impression that a poor un educated person could get residency easier here than a typical $50K/year college educated worker from an industrial country.  For someone with nothing, the nipple of the BRD can be pretty nourishing.  Actually I see it being no different in the US with the south American immigration issue. 

When I go to the pool for my swim work out, all I here is Russian and French.   The  french apparently do not have outdoor swimming pools and all the Russians got in since their great-great grand fathers had some sort of German roots.  What is even worse, they let the old Russians in, who never paid a cent in German taxes, yet now collect full retirement benefits from the German social security.   Of course all the East Germans who never paid in, get a free ride too.  The German Social Security has been getting subsidies from the BRD for a while now. 

German is already tipped over.   There are more households living from the state than supporting the state.   It is all down hill from here. 

For precious metal fans, the 10 Euro Silver coin, has 1/2 oz of silver.  It is probably the coin with the closest value in silver (7.60 Euro?) to what its face value is.  It is kind of like a silver put.   If silver goes no place, it is always worth 10 Euro, but you pay no premium like you do with other silver coins.  I picked up the tip on this website (German) .."Kriesenvorsorge=Crisis preparation". Once a month I set out on my bike and hit the banks for the silver coins.   I go riding anyway so, riding to the various banks is no big deal.   A new coin is coming out on Thursday. 

http://www.krisenvorsorge.com

 

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