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Guest Post: The Cost Of Corporate Communism
Lately I have been using the phrase "Corporate Communism" on my television show I think it is an especially fitting term when discussing the current landscape in both our banking and health care systems.
As Americans, I believe we reject Communism because it historically has allowed a tiny group of people to consolidate complete control over national resources (including people), in the process stifling competition, freedom and choice. It leaves its citizens stagnating under the perpetual broken systems with no natural motivation to innovate, improve services or reduce costs.
Lack of choice, lazy, unresponsive customer service, a culture of exploitation and a small powerbase formed by cronyism and nepotism are the hallmarks of a communist system that steals from its citizenry and a major reason why America spent half a century fighting a Cold War with the U.S.S.R.
And yet today we find ourselves as a country in two distinctly different categories: those who are forced to compete tooth and nail each day to provide value to society in return for income for ourselves and our families and those who would instead use our lawmaking apparatus to help themselves to our tax money and/or to protect themselves from true competition.
If you allow weak, outdated players to take control of the government and change the rules so they are protected from the natural competition and reward systems that have created so many innovations in our country, you not only steal from the citizens to on behalf of the least worthy but you also doom them by trapping the capital that would be used to generate new innovation and, most tangibly in our current situation, jobs.
We are losing the opportunity cost of all the great ideas that should be coming from the proper deployment of that 23.7 Trillion in capital. Everything from innovation in medical delivery systems to accessible space travel, free energy to the driverless car; all of these things may never come to bear because those powerful individuals who have failed, been passed over by technological advancements, innovation and flat-out smarts, have commandeered our government to unfairly sustain their wealth and power.
Unfortunately, they use our wealth and laws not only to benefit their outdated, failed companies, but also spend a small pittance of their ill-gotten gains lobbying and favor-trading with politicians so the government will continue to protect them from competition and their well-deserved failure.
The massive spike in unemployment, the utter destruction of retirement wealth, the collapse in the value of our homes, the worst recession since the Great Depression have all resulted directly from the abdication of proper government.
Even with all that -- the only changes that have been made, have been made to prop up and hide the massive flaws on behalf of those who perpetuated them. Still utterly nothing has been done to disclose the flaws in this system, improve it or rebuild it. Only true rules-based capitalism ensures constant adaptation and implementation of the latest and best practices for a given business, as those businesses that don't adapt fail and those who deploy the latest innovations to their customers benefit, prosper.
The concept of Communism is rightly reviled in this country for the simple reason that it is blind to human nature, allowing a small group of individuals near-total control, while sticking everyone else with the same crappy systems -- and the bill. America spent countless lives and half a century fighting against this system of government...so why are we standing for it now?
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As the name implies, I defer to the more intelligent minds on this sight. How about some ideas/ways to affect change, for a guy who is looking to make a difference. Lay it on me.
+750 billion!!
1. Keep on Congress to pass HR 1207.
2. Starve the Beast - pull your money immediately from the Stress Test 19.
3. Do not buy a GM or Chysler vehicle, ever again.
4. Do not buy insurance from AIG
etc.
There is plenty an ordinary citizen can do, but most are just sheeple. Look at that lady who posted the protest video against BofA and "Ken Lay" - they agreed to roll back her interest rate to 18% or whatever, and she agreed to keep paying it!!!! Stupid sheep.
Have 1,2,3,4 covered. Could you expand on etc.?
By etc I meant don't do business with any of the other bailout monsters, but to add to the list, I would say spread the word, encourage your family and friends to also refuse to do business with them.
I hear a lot of people say they will never buy a GM product again, but then they still bank at Citibank and use a BofA credit card. WTF?
Ill second that motion. Snatch up the attention of as many people as you can, family, friends, and strangers and let them know what kind of system they are living in and what they can do. Just talk about it. Some people hate talking about finance because they think this is too complicated, but its really not; dont use jargon, just explain it in simple terms: elimination of competition, oligarchy, robbery, unfair. Let them know how corrupt the people in charge of our money are. I have found that once you have awakened a person to the injustices that were subject to every day, they will never do back to sleep. So keep talking.
Secondly I'd like to add another thing you can o which is to invest in yourself. If you know about this shit and would participate in extreme political activism then make sure you are up to the task. Work out, and learn. And keep learning. I recommend, in addition to the many useful sources recommended here, to visit these sites:
http://wiki.stealthiswiki.org/wiki/Table_of_Contents
(or read the outdate but still calssic original) http://www.tenant.net/Community/steal/steal.html
And also, don't forget to call you senators and representatives as often as possible, gt informed on the bills they are discussing, like the federal reserve sunshine act in the senate, and let them know your opinion of it. Make sure you remember that you are speaking to a fellow person on the other end. Starting a conversation (instead of just yelling...youre not doing this to vent) at them is the best way to get your point across.
http://thomas.loc.gov/
This is the place for all the information concerning pending or enacted legislation. Votes, sponsors & co-sponsors, links to the record of every proceeding. Everything congress. Make sure you learn about what is actually happening and do not rely upon someone else's commentary. Read. Learn. Look for quality references. Read them and share them.
So much of what is happening today stems from the desire by many in popular media to perpetuate a "trust us, but don't verify" approach. If you cannot verify, then do not trust it. Breaking society into as many little pieces as possible and setting those pieces against each other over what amounts to crumbs while the big robberies happen is how those in power stay in power. This has little to do with one political party or another being more right than another. It has to do with sustaining the power structure, backed by big money & years of know how in keeping you, your loved ones, friends, neighbors and fellow citizens in the dark and angry at another citizen rather than at those that made things this way and how they operate..
Be informed and participate. An informed and engaged electorate is the biggest threat those who hold power face. Engage in discussion and share your perspective. Many folks believe that they are isolated and powerless. The more you are engaged and share your slice of experience the more others will learn and the more you will learn what others know becoming a positive feedback loop.
Cheers.
...and that is why the sneakiest legislation is written in language only a lawyer can read.
Apocalypse Now - For this post by Miles and the last by Tumbling Dice:
+300,000,000 - roughly the number of our citizens that must stop being armchair critics and get involved. The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
Addressing point 3:
Unfortunately General Motors makes original cars and not detuned copies(anything with a Korea or China brand name)/golfcarts(About every brand except for General Motors/Ford/Chrysler, given a price point).
Having just Ford in the mix does not bring enough choice in the matter.
I'd replace #3 with:
3. Repeal any part of the Taft-Hartley Act used in the PATCO firings as well as any provisions that may apply towards any automotive firms covered by bailouts.
I'd add:
5. Remove 20 CFR 655 and 20 CFR 656 and replace them with equivalents that preclude labor relations firms(or any functional equivalent of them) from creating H1-b/L1 job funnels.
5a. Grant immunity from prosecution or retaliation to anyone who witnesses or observes violations or circumventions of such regulations/laws, with a very low threshold on their part.
6. Extend offshoring prohibitions present in the bailout to all firms of any type in the US, and are valid with a >3.5% U-6.
It might be painful, but at least it would make it possible for non-government work to appear in our neck of the woods.
Well played. The advice in the following replies is also of very significant importance.
Make note of the trend here. Our democratic votes every year (or 4 for most) are irrelevant when compared to our economic votes.
Every penny you spend has wide-reaching consequences speaking in favor or against the actions of other individuals.
It may seem trivial and insignificant but it is not.
Real progress is made in a series of small, incremental steps.
Every pair of Nikes you buy, every excursion to walmart, every latte, carries with it not only the measure of perceived utility and value from your perspective but also from the perspective of many other invested parties from the employees who work there to the landlord who owns the building, and contributes to perpetuating the delusions.
It is a change in basic behavior that will have the greatest impact.
If you can learn to live without the unnecessary "pleasures" and give up an attachment to consumption, waste, and immediate emotional satisfaction, you can resist the temptation of many a swindler, swine, and charlatan. It may sound like I speak from a religious connotation but these principles are the recipe for a rewarding life, seeking true fulfillment and reward (and freedom of control) which cannot be provided by pursuit of any possession or obsession.
Education is the most important thing you can invest in.
That encompasses all manner of self-improvement (such as strong diet and exercise). It is the only market which is not manipulated (community college is just as effective if you WANT the knowledge), and it is the only asset you have which cannot be taken away from you (in practice). Also, it is the only asset you have in which you can directly and fundamentally influence it's value by many magnitudes.
The keys to our own freedom lie in our own hands. We are the ones who enslave ourselves by giving our power willingly to those who would do us harm. Where we seem to have no choice, choice exists. When alternatives seem unfathomable and undesirable, it is almost always a matter of perception and framing. How would the alternative look from a different perspective? How is your decision affected if your assumptions change?
This is so well put! TY
PROPS. Corporate Communism - you nailed it.
I like Dylan, but I would encourage him to read "The Road To Serfdom" by Hayek, he can probably even get it free online, the copyright should have run out by now.
Hayek lays today's scenario out perfectly, and calls it for what it is - fascism. Communism is just one distorted form of it, as are most attempts at socialism. Hayek argues correctly that the pull towards facsism is strong, and sure enough that is what we are ending up with.
It may take another Revolution to break the trend, unless we can break the Fed. IMHO it is the Fed that is the enabler of this; with a sound money policy, a lot of today's looting would not be possible.
Ghost, as usual you are spot on. Road to Serfdom is required reading for everyone.
Not sure if you saw most post regarding Harvey and the SEC but are you not the master list compiler for all the traitors.
Joe Six Pack is going to need some instruction on who is to blame.
Cheers,
Pigpen
Definitely agree, especially since what he was refering to was actually a totalitarian regime and not a communist one. The world has never and will never see true communism because human nature will always corrupt the top of the system. Fascism is definitely what we are in right now, and we're headed toward Feudalism as you point out. This is also not the first time the US has experienced strong Fascist tendencies, it also happened in the early thirties, but thankfully we were snapped out of it when we fought the official fascist incarnation in WWII. Wonder what will snap us out of it this time...
I think he may have been leaning towards fascism to begin with. Thats what I thought he meant by corporate communism. Regardless, youve got to give him props for highlighting the fact that capitalism is dead on such a public forum as he is enjoying now. We need more outrage of the kind that Mr Ratigan is demonstrating.
"the greatest weapon of the fascist is the tolerance of the passivist." - mike muir
"Call out the instigator, because there's something in the air"
There is a false dichotomy between left and right. The true ideological fault line is constitutionalist vs. revisionist. The Founding Fathers understood perfectly well that large government would result in corruption and they specifically structured the federal government to frustrate its growth and limit its powers. The dam was broken by the Supreme Court in the 1930's-40's with the perversion of the interstate commerce clause. The ICC is now twisted to justify the federal government's intrusion into every aspect of our lives, precipitating rampant growth of power and spending--and inevitably attracting the corrupt. Without the plutocrats the federal government could not finance itself. Without the federal government the plutocrats could not retain their extra-Constitutional powers to create money for themselves, to take all the profits, and to consign to the taxpayers any losses that result.
It's an interesting debate as to whether the plutocrats could be controlled even by a small, constitutional government. It is beyond debate, however, that a large anti-constitutional government simply becomes a more powerful accomplice for them.
"We've got to get it together sooner or later, because the revolution's here, and you know it's right"
I am really beginning to love Dylan Ratigan... he really cuts through the BS... it is clear we have an oligarchy in our country... and we all pay for their incompetence, ineptitude, and stranglehold on our country. The system is out-of-balance... and if it is not able to re-balance itself... it will slowly become non-functional and be unable to meet the needs of the populous... we can already see that occurring.
Note to Mr. Ratigan,
Please be wary of black helipcopters in the middle of the night. If they take you, we will come to your rescue.
YOU RULE!
Some think that Communism and Fascism exist at opposite ends of the political spectrum. I've long thought that wrong. It's not a spectrum, it's a circle, or a line bent around itself in 3D, where the two ends of the spectrum almost meet and touch.
See my post above - read Hayek, he argues quite accurately that Communism as practiced in the USSR just became a version of Fascism.
Agreed, but Communism in the USSR wasn't true Communism because it did not evolve from the workers' revolt against capital.
Fascism and Communism are at opposite ends of the political spectrum, defined by who controls the means of production. Fascism is largely corporatism, which Communism (in its theoretical sense) is purely worker owned. We have never seen true by-the-book Communism, but we have seen true by-the-book Fascism, and we see elements of it in the US today.
bring it...Dylan! so glad you left CNBS
To go to MSNBC? lol
Dylan can talk there, but 99% of the time 99% of the views on this site are anti liberal anythingm uch less pro msnbc
Dylan, welcome to the honesty principle atoll surrounded by the tempestuous sea of corruption. looting, corporate communism, crony media/political system and brainwashed masses.
Cheers
Pigpen
Yes, we already know we are in the valley of despair. The question is, does anyone know the way out?
Let's all ask ourselves a basic question and they push aside wishful thinking and pie in the sky hope and answer honestly. The needle is clearly in the red with regard to political and corporate corruption in the United States.
Does anyone really think the people who currently hold the reins of power are willingly going to release those reins and allow their influence and competitive advantage to wither away and disappear?
And who exactly is going to step in front of this bulldozer (or more accurately Tiananmen Square battle tank) and risk life and limb to fight for any more than token changes?
Token changes BTW that the powerful will happily agree to in order to maintain the popular illusion that America is a democracy? Or more accurately a republic.
The way forward is clearly revolution and I don't believe this country has the stomach for it.
After the revolution, we get a new cycle. Still ends up in the same place.
Humans are as humans do. We need a benevolent overseer to keep us in line?
40muleteam borax
No, we simply need to become desperate enough that we become willing to discard the old and accepted ways and look for alternatives.
We aren't there yet. People rarely change without being forced to, usually because they're experiencing great pain and thus are more likely to look outside their comfort zone.
Our culture can't continue in it's present form. We are exhausting our so called natural resources and destroying our only planet. To be blunt, we are shitting where we eat.
Until we acknowledge the obvious and become willing to make changes, it will be more of the same. An outside observer would call us insane. Of course, there is no outside observer and even if there were, we wouldn't listen to him/her anyway.
I don't worry much about the planet. We are mice nuts, and it will be fine because the current course is unsustainable. All 1.3 billion Chinese and 1 billion Indians are not going to consume at the level of Americans circa 2007. Americans are more likely to consume like Chinese levels of 3-4 years ago. Say goodbye to mindless entertainment and say hello to callouses and sore muscles earned in physical work. The Earth in total is a closed system that self-regulates. If we screw it up, it will do away with enough of us for the system to recover. Things are going to get very interesting. I hope I live another twenty years to see how it all comes out.
Reminds me of a short story I wrote, back in High School.
The world is reset through a catastrophic event, we essentially start from scratch. The fear is that it will end up the same way as before. So the emerging idealistic "PTB" set up a secret system to chemically labotimize everyone (yes, including themselves) who survives the apocalypse through everything "consumable". In place of fallible human leaders, we set up an extremely complex computational "over-mind" of sorts to govern us based solely on statistical outcomes, anthropic principles, etc.
Well, to make a long story short, everything went perfectly as planned, except one of the programmers slipped in some encrypted code to awaken him after the process had taken place. He, in effect ran everything after the new system took place.
The moral of the story? There are no benevolent overseers in this world, every system of governance will start out as an idealistic body of optimism and then slowly devolve into a mere fetid zombie. Oh, It's alive, no one know's how or why, but it's alive. And the first urge anyone has upon seeing this monster is to shoot it in the head. So it is with America now, and so it will be with the next system to come.
Cheers!
Sounds interesting.
Did you post the story somewhere?
Sadly, I must agree with you, CD. And as for "corporate communism" I much prefer Michael Parenti's long-used and more accurate term, "Socialist Plutocracy" - as with everything else, they have monopolized socialism in America, only allowing it for the super-rich with everyone else on their own.
And think of how very long it has been going on and how many times has one heard someone from Corporate America, or their very own senator or congress critter proclaim that "we" must offshore American jobs to (communist) China and (communist) Vietnam (etc.), so that "we" can compete.
An economy is not an open pipeline, but a loop....
OMG, are you the other person I heard about who also reads Michael Parenti? I finally found you. Michael said you existed but I wasn't too sure. :>)
All kidding aside, Parenti takes names and kicks ass and calls a spade a spade. Unfortunately, that's exactly the opposite one must do in order to hit the best sellers list.
It doesn't matter anyway because people most certainly don't wish to hear the truth about their corporate masters. It's better if you turn up the volume on American Idol than to think about all that hard stuff Parenti talks about.
Government is supposed to be the Referee; but somewhere along the way they allowed one of the quarterback's to pay for dinner, and now they seem to think it would be better to own part of the team. Doesn't look like the hometeam is going to win this game.
The American people know something's wrong but the mechanism
of theft is so intricate and interwoven in outsourcing, lobbyists, bogus statistics,hidden inflation, they are at a loss to know what to do, other than vote. We got Obama the Enabler, we got conned, they are seeing this now. Apathy will rule like never before.
Not altogether that intricate: private equity vultures, offshoring of jobs (and inshoring of foreign scab workers), and the banksters/insurance/investmestment fraudsters' securitization and derivatives scams.
We have entered the era of Fabian Socialism, not Communism.
Fabian Socialists aspire to control the most important populist economic essentials such as banking and finance, transportation, health care, etc. Other independent service or industry segments are left to languish or compete on their own.
For the Fabians, Industry is good only as it enriches the power of the State to control fair economic distribution to all segments of the population.
Fabians started in Britain and have been around for 130 years. Wealth distribution is their bag. But unlike Communism, they do not want to completely neuter their capitalist host.
Fabius Maximus. Love it!
The current Fabian agenda is awesome: create a health care "reform" that's designed to fail, bankrupt hospitals and insurance companies and come back a decade from now and say "see, this is why we need universal health care". They've been on this kick for nearly a century.
The point of fabianism is to avoid the "winner-take-all" type of political confrontations. It's a steady war of attrition over time. A lot of commentators are looking for that one piece of regulation or policy or policymaker that caused this mess. They think that if you just tweek a few things that everything will run smoothly. Meanwhile, the fabians will always respond with something akin to "don't throw the baby out with the bathwater".
Man-oh-man, are you a complete and utter douche!
Negative, rodger-dodger, it's about more securtization and derivatives, with this nothing more than a backdoor bailout (as others even more intelligent than I have noted) of the health insurance scumsters (along with their pharma freaks). Word up, dood, who owns the lion's share of pharmaceutical companies?
Check out detailed info of ownership with JPMorgan Chase (and their main buds, the Rockefeller family).
Geez, what claptrap Anon be spewing....
Thanks for the analysis. Tell me again how securitization and derivatives work in the health insurance industry. Then tell me again how JPM and the Rockerfellers haven't already figured this out.
Oh. And you're just anon as I am, dood.
Darn, that’s good, anonymouses 91564 and 91688. It’s wise to remember that what we think is failing economic policy is actually successful policy in the eyes of Keynesian economists such as Drs. Paul Krugman and Nouriel Roubini.
Interesting isn’t it that the theoreticians who drafted the IMF/World Bank’s manipulated paper standard—the monetary unit called the SDR or Special Drawing Right)--were Fabian Socialists from England, John Maynard Keynes and then Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury, Harry Dexter White.
The most revealing component of the Fabian crest is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
“The Fabians were an elite group of intellectuals who formed a semi-secret society for the purpose of bringing socialism to the world. Whereas Communists wanted to establish socialism quickly through violence and revolution, the Fabians preferred to do it slowly through propaganda and legislation. The word socialism was not to be used. Instead, they would speak of benefits for the people such as welfare, medical care, higher wages, and better working conditions. In this way, they planned to accomplish their objective without bloodshed and even without serious opposition. They scorned Communists, not because they disliked their goals, but because they disagreed with their methods. To emphasize the importance of gradualism, they adopted the turtle as the symbol of the movement.”—G. Edward Griffin, 1994.
Of course, the hidden agenda behind the IMF/World Bank was the building of world socialism with the Federal Reserve’s role that of bringing it about.
"Of course, the hidden agenda behind the IMF/World Bank was the building of world socialism with the Federal Reserve’s role that of bringing it about."
So the Fed Reserve folks are socialist? The IMF/World bank are socialist? Who are the "good guys" in your upside down world? The insurance companies? Filed a serious claim lately? You only have to get completely reamed once to realize that you only have insurance when you dont need it. Your brain has been infected with fascist bullshite and now you have to call black white and white black to make sense of the world. I sincerely hope you can shake your infection. I did, and the proof for me is that it is much easier to predict the near future with much less "conspiracy" by powerless academics versus powerful oligarchs and their payed academics, think tanks and media.
"We" are standing for it because many voters, corporations, and other entities are invested in the system due to handouts and redistribution policies. It has become so entrenched that there is no way out but down.
And yet for people that produce, investment returns from income earned are taxed. Tax cheats (aside from Tim G.) are hammered. The dollar is getting killed on purpose, which is itself a tax.
There is no political party that opposes this abuse, because too many people are bought off. Instead we get sideshow lectures on family values from airport bathroom stalls.
Taxes are going to go through the roof soon. Find a way to hide.
No need for neologisms. The proper word for the "Corporate Communism" is Fascism. Plain and simple.
And if you talk to William Black he will tell you that it is control fraud.
Basically all the same concept with different semantics.
Either way we are screwed until we wake up. Will we ever have a viable third party?
I totally agree. I watched a video of William Black giving a lecture about the control fraud in the US. He’s basically describing the exact same problem from the point of view of market regulation.
The problem is corruption in both the government and market, enabled by a bought off SEC and congress.
Exactly. If you want an accurate phrase, maybe Corporatism, a form of Fascism. But Fascism in its pure form will do.
No need for neologisms. The proper word for the "Corporate Communism" is Fascism. Plain and simple.
No need for neologisms. The proper word for the "Corporate Communism" is Fascism. Plain and simple.
I just shed a tear for how low our once great nation has fallen.
Good post and I agree but on a hair-splitting note, communism as it was originally defined has very few real examples. What you're referring to is authoritarianism or some other kind of -ism, but communism only has existed in teeny things like communes. Arguably it _can't_ exist because once it get bigger than a couple hundred people, you can't have everybody equal anymore.
Why?
Simple. You can't get the people Johnstown, Pa to throw out the scurrillous Murtha for boondoggling. Over his infamous career he (and everyone like him, including the Dead Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Mitch Mcconnell, the crook from Alaska, etc ad nauseum) has managed to bring more money from other parts of the country into Johnstown than Johnstown has sent out, much much more.
Until the people are going to admit that THEY are the problem and realize that he and his partners in crime are ruining the country by their behavior to simply stay personally in power, then that's why 'we' will continue to stand for it.
It is all but amazing that once the facade of communism & democracy was stripped away what became undeniable in all the major centers of power was the ascendancy of high octane versions of oligarch centered kleptocratic governance.
I am hopeful that Dylan Ratigan turns out to be more than a bit of symbolism and actually represents an effort by some to corral the monster. Regardless, I join others in welcoming his continued efforts.
There is a slow but persistant brain drain occuring in the US and has been for some time now. Foreign students are opting to return to their home countries and the brightest are expatriating out. With government salaries exceeding the private sector in many technical fields, no wonder the next dotcom explosion is barely on the horizon. Whether it's by design or circumstances, it seems as though the developed and emerging nations are swapping roles in some sort of controlled experiment. This could not happen without the cooperation of both government and corporations. Have they given up on the US or are they just trying to protect what technology would destroy? Bill Gates once said (paraphrasing) that the one thing he is most fearful of is the next tech. revolution concieved in someones garage.
Message to congress and CEO's, either innovate or get the fuck out of the way.
Bill Gates is the same person who perpetuates H1/L1 fraud.
No thank you, but if there is any, it's due to offshoring being too easy to do.
You are sort of right, although that reverse brain drain is rather simplistic and misleading.
It IS a reverse flow of capital, jobs, and opportunity elsewhere. It is no surprise that the EXACT same percentage of wage growth was seen in Chinese workers aged 20 to 29 in year 2007, while the EXACT same percentage drop occurred in wages of American workers, aged 20 to 29 in the year 2007!
They, whoever they be, have deemed America to be the next cheap labor country - it is our term, they have so declared.
Yep, "The Shock Doctrine" predicted as much a few years ago. They raped and pillaged and manipulated (and overthrew govts and supported military coups) in Chile, Argentina, Phillipine and Indonesia. They (IMF, WTO, Worldbank, etc.) broke the unions at gun point, stole all the public assets and sold them to their crony friends. Their pet dictators and corrupt poles ran up huge debts in the name of the people and stole much of the money for themselves.
They are using the same play book on us now cause they've pillage everyone else (they are working on Europe at the same time). The only, only thing we have not seen here yet is a military dictatorship. As the states and cities go broke, you will see a mass sell-off of roads, schools, water and sewer works and the Goldman Sachs folks and their buds will buy it all on the cheap, using tax payer money, then squeeze us all to use it, while delaying upkeep.
Ron Paul for President, Dylan Ratigan for Vice President.
What we have now isn't communism, as the State does not own the means of production.
Nor do they even control it. The control is firmly in private hands, and a tiny few control way too much, and effectively dictate to DC what to do. That's certainly been true with the bailouts and banks.
I'd say it's more like a theftocracy or a kleptocracy.
Check out this amazing quote. It's from an article by singer James McMurtry, quoting Peter Coyote's father, who was a Wall Street financier in the late 60's.
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"Capitalism is dying, boy. It’s dying of its own internal contradictions.[He was, after all, a Wall Street financier, so I listened carefully.] You think the revolution’s gonna take five years. It’s gonna take fifty! So keep your head down and hang in for the long haul, because I’ll tell you something. The sons of bitches running things don’t give a shit about their children or their grandchildren, and they certainly don’t give a shit about you! They’ve paid their dues, and they want to get out with theirs! They’re gonna sell off everything that’s not nailed down to the highest bidder. Don’t get crushed when it topples down. Take care of yourself and your family. If you can make a difference, do it, but there are huge forces at work here, and they have to play themselves out according to their own design, not yours. Watch yourself."
- Wall Street Financier, Morris Cohon, to his son, Peter Coyote—Winter of 1969/1970
The above passage is from Peter Coyote’s excellent memoir, “Sleeping Where I Fall”. In the next sentence, Coyote adds,
"As far as I can determine, everything he prophesied has come true."
Link:
http://blurt-online.com/blogs/view/2781/
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Interesting isn't it, that McMurtry, a populist socialist, and John Rich, who is sharply right wing, are doing songs about the same subject. Unemployment and pain for many caused by the plundering done by a few.
"We Can't Make It Here" - James McMurtry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcBWlblRDjg&feature=player_embedded
"They're Shutting Detroit Down" - John Rich.
http://heavens-gates.com/usworkers/
George Orwell has often been called every libertarians favorite socialist, for good reason - both philosophies are against totalitarianism. Which is what we have today.
Pure communism and pure socialism have never existed in the world, except maybe in some hippy communes, but never at the national level. They have always morphed into totalitarianism/fascism of some form.
As has democracy. Our experiment with democracy lasted a few hundred years, speaking volumes for the power of the Constitution, but it has been over for awhile, as you so correctly point out.
EDIT: I should also point out, isn't it telling that Ron Paul, a libertarian, and Bernie Sanders, a socialist, are the two leading the bill to Audit the Fed?
"Pure communism and pure socialism have never existed in the world, except maybe in some hippy communes, but never at the national level."
neither has pure capitalism, if one agrees to define capitalism as a system of free & private enterprise.
the $64T question is whether can any of these exist ever in a nation of 300M people, especially when hierarchy continues to eventually rear its ugly head.
Has pure capitalism ever existed?
ummm, there are self avowed marxists in the white house advising the POTUS. Obama wrote in his own book that he sought out the marxists to be friends with in college. What does Dylan expect? LOL
Once more, ignorance thy name is Anon!
Catch a clue, clueless wonder. The Prez Obama has the most Wall Street lobbyists and Biopharmaceutical lobbyist appointments conceivable! Diana Farrell (McKinsey Global Institute, Goldman Sachs), Laura Tyson (Morgan Stanley, NAFTA), Timothy Geithner (Kissinger & Associates, NY Fed, Treasury-under Bush, under Clinton and once again), Larry Summers (World Bank, everywhere on the Street), Richard Holbrooke (AIG, Perseus), Robert Hormats (Goldman Sachs, etc.), Peter Orszag (Brookings Institution-Hamilton Project, McKinsey & Co.), Herbert Allison (Merrill Lynch, NY Fed, Fannie Mae, McCain for Pres.), Gary Gensler (Goldman Sachs), etc., etc., etc.
here here, facts speak louder than words. Obama writes nd talks liberal but votes and acts big-govt/big-corporate/banskter.
aren't you all equating communism with the soviet union - that was not really communism - you need to look up the definition.
Which all?
The Fed’s mission, like all collectivist planners, is picking winners and losers. Under the current Fed scenario, the average American citizen can expect lose-lose and your average giant corrupted investment bank can expect win-win.
Nic Lenoir of ICAP reports on this page in Hallway Talks About The USD: “Overall though, I think for now the Fed has expressed concerns about consequences of excess liquidity but has not done anything to back it up. Certainly trying to start draining before year-end could cause disruptions in the market. They will get criticized if they do and the funding markets panic, but they will get criticized if they do nothing. While I think they should start draining and show the world (which shows no respect) that they won't bend to fear indefinitely, the most likely scenario is that they won't do a thing until they are cornered by market conditions or when there is no doubt the economy has fully and sustainably recovered... but there will always be risks, and at some point you have to take some.”Fed central planning will never let Americans get back to living the American Dream that gave us our freedom and prosperity in the first place, because central planning is socialism and the American Dream is free enterprise.
The Fed’s calls of “insufficient liquidity” and a shortage of “reserves” and plans for “new reserves,” i.e., coverups for inflationary deficit spending and credit expansion, may have duped the Congress and some of the people but it appears to be a tough sell in China and Russia. Unlike Congress, these people recognize the short end of the inflation stick when they see it.
America is committing financial suicide. As the author Robert Ringer said: We have two choices: We can all take our lumps together, let the ‘crash’ come and take its toil (which is another way of saying that we will pay our overdue bills), let wages and prices settle to their normal market levels…or, by continuing to grab for all the short-term benefits we can get, we can keep fueling the political fires that in turn fuel inflation, which ultimately must lead to a total collapse of the economy and bring to power a dictatorship…
“[A]ll the material wealth in the world is useless if one has no freedom. Wealth can be produced if men are free. If men are not free, then slaves produce wealth for those in power.”
Indeed, slavery is the ultimate "cost of corporate communism." I vote "awesome!" post.
No question, the Fed is the enabler of a lot of this. Americans think they have democracy, but embrace a central planner over its money supply. It is a joke.
We either End the Fed within the next 5 years, or our country is lost forever. It is as simple as that.
Right again! With Obama's econ advisor (Rubin) and McCain's econ advisor (the vile Gramm) who could possibly claima democracy here?
Sorry to bust up the party but we do not, nor did we ever, have a democracy. Our form of government is a representative republic.
A very big difference between the two. Democracy is essentially majority rule. And if that majority wants to kick you out of your home or take your land, they can. A simple majority is all democracy is.
A representative republic is more like rule by elected committee. We vote to decide on representatives to protect our collective interests for our part of the country, state, county etc and they then vote on laws and such. They act as a buffer against mob rule.
I always cringe when I hear a politician say we have a democracy. It's all part of the American myth enabling us to think we can actually affect the outcome of what goes on in Washington.
Politicians do it on purpose because they want to skirt around the other part of what the US government is, which is 'constitutionally limited'. To sell the idea that we're a democracy is to sell the idea that the government (of, by, for the people) can do _anything_.
I can sort of understand the pandering politician using the word to his/her advantage. Where I'm disgusted is the so called liberal "free press" promoting and reinforcing the myth. No excuse other than our freepress is simply there to support today's version of fascism.
We don't have reporters anymore. We have repeaters.
Agreed, bad choice of words on my part. What I should have said is, American's think they have capitalism. We don't now, and haven't in a long time. Arguably we had some small periods of it in our past.
My point is, Americans think "Communism" and central planning are evil, but say nothing when their money supply is centrally planned, and quite the opposite - Greenspan was treated like a God. Very hypocritical.
I correct you and others because once we adopt the language of the tormentors and oppressors, we have lost half the battle.
You win the hearts and minds of people by establishing your agenda early and by controlling the premises of the conversation. If you use their controlling language, you concede the high ground.
A perfect example of controlling the outcome is a loaded question such as "So when did you stop beating your wife?" It's a lose lose proposition for the person being questioned.
the American Dream is free enterprise.
JR,
You realize you've been 'living the dream' for +/- 25 years right? That's about how long it has been since the era of light-touch capitalism started. Do you like what you see going on around you? Because almost free enterprise is what we've got.
Almost pregnant, right?
Almost pregnant, right?
Uh. Okay, let's just shut down the SEC altogether. Let's make Antitrust regulations historic too. Bank regs and FDIC insurance are just needless overhead.
There you go, 'free enterprise.'
'light-touch capitalism'? Have you actually read any of the news that's been posted on ZeroHedge? Can't you see how far the government, Fed, Treasury, etc. have inserted themselves up the ass of the private sector? (ha, 'ass'...'private sector'...I made a funny.) And vice versa, of course.
This is not 'light touch' capitalism...this is circle-jerk power brokering, at the expense of everyone outside the circle.
aren't you all confusing communism with the soviet system - which was not in the least communist?? we need to get some definition here - how about worker control and community ownership not totalitarian government control. the soviet union was a state capitalist system!
Mons R. what a puff piece. Until you name names and follow the $$, it is mere soap box rhetoric. MSNBC will not allow it- real dogged journalism.
Well said.
Dear Dylan,
You have been completely assimilated into the American propaganda machine.
As Americans, I believe we reject Communism because it historically has allowed a tiny group of people to consolidate complete control over national resources (including people), in the process stifling competition, freedom and choice.
That's not communism, that's leadership by few and it occurs in democracies too. You and the Americans that continue to abuse the word communism picked this up from cold-war hawks who used it to consolidate power, stifle competition, freedom and choice.
Communism is a form of social organization. Variations are known as 'Employee-owned businesses' and co-operatives. (REI members, you are all communists.)
Lack of choice, lazy, unresponsive customer service, a culture of exploitation and a small powerbase formed by cronyism and nepotism are the hallmarks of a communist system that steals from its citizenry
I'm looking around and seeing that going on in the U.S. anyway.
Grow a pair and start being responsible for your words and the consequences of abusing them. For all you idiots drinking his propaganda in, you are part of the problem.
Coward.
I wouldn't go so far as call him a coward, at least his is out there putting his name on something and calling out injustices. But you are correct in that he is a typical American in that he sees every attempt at government control as "communist" or "socialist" (or even funnier, "Marxist", a term used by those who attempt to appear ultra-educated).
We are experiencing fascism/corporatism.
Ratigan's heart is in the right place, he just needs to find the right words. As I mention above, if he does some research on the best thinkers on this subject, he will come to the proper conclusions.
You are right, ghost, as he is simply too ignorant and uneducated to understand, or even have heard of, the concept of ECONOMIC DEMOCRACY!
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Please. In the midst of a serious discussion on how to save the world’s most innovative country from now going down in flames, you want to do dictionary definitions and sidetrack serious discussion by debating how many angels dance on the head of a pin. This is oligarch control of a once free society and it’s more than naïve to call it “leadership by few.”
My point being: in the midst of a serious discussion on how to save the world's most innovative country from going down in flames, this genius is whipping out cold war propaganda and not contributing a thing to the discussion.
My point being: in the midst of a serious discussion on how to save the world’s most innovative country from going down in flames, discussion is being boiled down to “let’s just boil it down to words not the issue,” right? I hear this on talk radio when someone suggests a definition for a term. And the board just lights up, as everybody has an opinion not on the core discussion but on the definition. Call it by any name, the operating method of the Obama Administration is state control. It is big government making the decisions for individuals and whether it’s communism, fascism, statism, democracy or socialism, it is the decline of representative government and free market enterprise.
Call it by any name, the operating method of the Obama Administration is state control.
Really? Obama is POTUS #1? No. He's #44. It didn't happen overnight.
It is big government making the decisions for individuals
I see. You know the SEC leaves AIG alone to do as they please in true 'rugged individualistic' fashion and look how that's turned out. What about the zerohedge favorite GS? Still doing as they please. It has worked out great for them.
So, you see how that rugged individualism BS let Wall Street give you the bill for all of their failed operations? Slavishly sticking to 'Rugged individualism' fronted a bunch of individuals *lots* of money. When it came time to collect on the fronted money, they passed the bill to the sucker at the other end of the table. You and I.
it is the decline of representative government
The 'decline' you reference is the simple fact most citizens not participating. So, why not make it a personal goal to get 10 people involved in congressional politics? I may not agree with your perspective, but I bet I could find 10 people and us 20 people could learn to agree on some issues and work towards a common goal.(Ak! communism!!!)
Or, you could slavishly adhere to that 'rugged individualism' myth, and be totally unable to work with anyone outside your comfort zone and be where we are right now. Which is what was so annoying about the article to begin with.
I see. You know the SEC leaves AIG alone to do as they please in true 'rugged individualistic' fashion and look how that's turned out. What about the zerohedge favorite GS? Still doing as they please. It has worked out great for them.
To my point above about the Federal Reserve being the enabler of American Fascism, both of those organizations would have failed last fall in a capitalist system.
Their failure in turn would have discouraged others from taking similar risks in the future.
To fault the "free market" in this failure is misplaced. We haven't had free markets in this country for a long time.
So when are you going to blow up a Federal building?
Coward.
1. How would that improve anything?
2. What are you insinuating?
3. We are a nation foundend on the principal of laws. Lawless acts like that are for cowards and weirdos. And the system works BTW.
Coward. Indeed.
Incremental progress, no matter how tame or phony it may seem, is progress. Don't discount something because it isn't hard enough fast enough.
I wasn't aware of any Rockefellers residing in federal buildings.
You might want to check out all their "foundations" (ever hear of the Markle Foundation, etc.) and their share ownership of JPMorgan Chase and Citi.
Pick up a big enough rock, and out crawls a Rockefeller.
This type of common sense is few and far between these days. A modern day Thomas Paine, that is the type of stuff that should be emailed around, short enough so the lack of attention span can be overcome. People are looking for legitimate leadership in this vacuum thats been created by the 2 party system.
Thanks Dylan
With all due respect mister Ratigan, but you are wrong. The term you call " corporate socialism " is a wrong definition of a state in which the US and most of the Western World are for the last 30 yrs. See, you can call something " communist " if and only if there is a disequilibrium between the State and the People.Next, when you call something communistic; one should take note of the role which the State plays in the whole schema; so for example if most of businesses are State owned a definition of something being communistic stands firmly and it is indisputable; but when a business sector, owned by private citizens of a State, control the political process and other non-political processes via controlling the legislative branch of a state it is called FASCISM. If you really want to get the " word " out; throw your PC ideology out of the window and give the current state of events a real name; FASCISM. I see no difference in the matter of the State and Business in the 20th century, and the matter of the State and Business in the first half of the 20th century. The 21st Century state wages wars to control the blood of the economy via unlawful invasions of other sovereign nations while killing million in the process, so Business could secure the necessary means to continue to dominate the total sphere of what one calls; human existence; and keep bribing and literally buying political processes, while the State in the first half of the 20th century did the same practice to secure total domination of Businesses and itself via waging unlawful wars and killing millions in the process. The goal, mister Ratigan, of the 21st century state and business is global dominance of Anglo-Saxon model, and its implementation globally; and the goal, mister Ratigan of the 20th century state and business was global dominance of the German model, and its implementation globally. So, mister Ratigan, say it like it is; Fascism ( with not so ) human face.
Well said, and very proper comparison of today's push for dominance of the Anglo-Saxon model and the German model of the last century.
agreed, Mr. Ratigan, you would do us all a tremendous service by reading the history of Mussolini (the father of Fascism) and the development of his philosophy from anarchism to socialism to something remarkably similar to what you call 'corporate communism'.
if it's time to call a spade a spade, then we must make vitally sure we're not calling it a jack instead.
Well Cheeky... I know better than to argue with you over fascism since coming from that part of the world you have a bird's eye historical view... and I will agree that we seem to be moving closer to fascism (even our two- party system seems to be more homogenized).
But in Dylan's defense he's actually calling it 'corporate communism'... which he must have coined himself... and when you look at it on the surface the corporations are doing a hell of a good job in assuring common ownership of our country's assets and controlling the means of production... the corporations are acting independently of the populous and distributing the country's wealth among themselves without anyone to stop them... they make the rules they want and could care less about the people... they have just forgotten that there is an entire nation of people who have been left out of the distribution matrix.
You are technically and linguistically correct, of course. So perhaps the Ratman is a misdirector, much in the same vein as a Kevin Phillips and various others who endeavor to direct our attention and focus away from the obvious (in this case: the Corporate Fascist State).
50,000 Foundations + 40,000 D.C. lobbyists + 5 media-controlling corporations = reality
Not to mention the well-documented connection between many economists and the Federal Reserve.
I'm glad to see a thoughtful discussion on here about the differences between socialism, communism, fascism, etc. I'm getting sick and tired of those words being a catchall for any loudmouth with an opinion. What we have is clearly not capitalism, but neither is it anything close to socialism of communism. It is much (frighteningly) closer to fascism. Do I think anything will change? No. Sheeple is right word. Someone else said it right that people will continue to be distracted by "social issues" like religion, sexual preference, and the newest fad (iphones!!!) just like the powers that be want. This way we can argue amongst ourselves while they strip us (more often then not willingly handed over) of our money and rights. This country will continue a slow grind downhill. What worries me is I'm not sure there will be any better places to go in the long run. The problem is corporations becoming to large and multinational and spreading their infulence like a plague across the planet. I think in the long run people will look back at globalization as the worst thing that happened to the human race.
I have no statistics to back this up but I believe Americans are now one of the most "undereducated" group in the industrialized world. Everything has been tailored to the lowest common denominator and now it is in place. No a-hole left behind be it person or corporation. No more recess in schools fearing that someone might scrape a knee, no failing grades fearing some little shit's psyche might be impaired for life, companies too big to fail, etc.etc.etc. Since the late sixties our schools and universities have been packed with liberal, left-leaning "teachers". The NEA is 90-95% democratic and backs up most democratic initiatives. We now have a gullible populous that walks around like lemmings with blinders on incapable of performing critical thinking that vote these a-holes into office based on pole-driven promises and won't hold them accountable when they don't keep their promises. The powers that be now have a constituency that will continue to vote them into office and slowly, now becoming rapidly, erode the values of this once great country for what?? A freeby or hand-out of some sort all the while giving up their individual freedoms meanwhile we are about to be taxed into oblivion! It truly is a sad day unless we can figure out a way to turn this around.....
Hmmmm
Have you seen Fred?
One man's "junk" is another man's treasure.
forget about reform. we are witnessing the death of late capitalism. i still can't believe what kanye pulled at the vma's. for serious
"The greatest travesty of the 21st century will be to have valiently fought the evils of communism for the past fifty years only to embrance its principles once the victory was declared."
Bulltwicky!
Communism (Soviet and Chinese-style, that is) is about state monopolization of the land and capital.
Predatory capitalism is about the Corporate-monopolization of the land and capital.
Until it is all evenly divided, we will never know peace.
Pass the peas, please....
uh, no. The state is very much complicit in our current problems. Ergo, not capitalism, but Fascism or Corporatism. 'Corporate Communism' works also, if only as a provocative way to shake up people's misconceptions about our economy being a free-market one.
yep we live in the united soviet socialist states of amerika.....with commrade obama leading the charge to more statist nonsolutions to our state created problems...the perfect crisis is never wasted..
fuck obama, fed
i respect this blog and read the bulk of its posts and I admire the contributors a whole lot, but this is some straight up nonsense. the sad after effect that decades of cold war propaganda has had on American people. This horrible propaganda has produced the very ignorance which is now burying the whole nation.
communism leads to stagnation by default? what the hell are you talking about? Apparently you haven't heard of the astronomical growth rates of the USSR under Stalin and China under Mao. Apparently you've been sleeping since the 80s as well, because that is when Communist China caught up to the West
i could tear this whole post to pieces for how non-factual, contradictory and flat out wrong it is, but i really don't have the time, so please just consider this, you say:
"The massive spike in unemployment, the utter destruction of retirement wealth, the collapse in the value of our homes, the worst recession since the Great Depression have all resulted directly from the abdication of proper government."
Ugh... In Communism, there is no unemployment, retirement worked as planned, everyone had a home secured.
WHat happened in America was the exact opposite of Communism - Capitalism running into the wall, because AS PREDICTED BY MARX, it always leads to monopolies, which also monopolize government and with that corruption starts running rampant. Can you tell me that this isn't the case with big banks today? Aren't you the source which always points out how Goldman Sachs has usurped government?
Apparently in your post-cold-war-brainwash American mind, Communism = everything bad and when Capitalist America goes down the drain, obviously it has to be Communism.
UUUUGH WHAT?
Did you forget it was Greenspan's deregulation which lead to the bubbles? Did you forget that it was all the capitalist "innovative tools and instruments" like derivatives and other ponzi scams which caused the decay of America you are describing?
Did you forget that it is big banks which looted the nation's wealth. Did you forget that in Communism such don't exist?
This is a failure of Capitalism. Case closed.
Please stop spreading disinformation, you are only driving more nails into this already wrecked nation's coffin.
cyberseer.org
Word Up!
The pursuit of communism by Lenin and Stalin is one of history’s worst economic disasters: millions were shot but many millions also starved.
Solzhenitsyn would weep at such flippant mockery of suffering. He left America disillusioned and I am beginning to understand why. To think of the millions of beautiful people who died under the worst butchery and inhumanity to man that cruelty has ever devised, and, economics aside, you equate their silent screams and suffering with a workers’ paradise that never existed. I must say you have a lot of nerve to state this in 2009, decades after the world witnessed the dramatic collapse of the failed Soviet Union and the breakup of the wall built to keep those workers in “paradise.”
“Governments are not moralists,” said Solzhenitsyn. “Governments never imprisoned people and executed them FOR having done something. They imprisoned and executed them TO KEEP THEM FROM doing something… They imprisoned all of them TO KEEP THEM FROM telling their fellow villagers about Europe. What the eye doesn’t see, the heart doesn’t grieve for.”
Fortunately, there are many who still live that would have to be imprisoned TO KEEP THEM FROM TELLING…
The 'failure of capitalism' was that the weak business leaders in power over the decades, almost since the inception of the country, ceded more and more control to the power-hungry government, until the lines between government and private industry were so blurred that we have ended up in oligarchy. This is NOT capitalism. You are putting forth a biased point of view, your take on capitalism as the 'bad guy'.
True capitalism is neutral, it doesn't force anyone to do anything to serve others. (Of course if you decide to spend your life not being productive, you suffer the consequences...but you did that to yourself.) Every other economic system relies on force. Communism, socialism, fascism, corporatism...all rely in some way on coercing, deceiving, defrauding the people.
The government, banks, finance industry, in cahoots, have defrauded the rest of the country (and world). This is NOT capitalism.
It's a triumph of statism that we have here. Capitalism died a long time ago.
Let's go over the failures from the 20th century attempts at communism (from The Black Book on Communism). These are estimated deaths not from decreased birth rates.
65 Million People's Republic of China
20 Million Soviet Union
2 Million Cambodia
2 Million N. Korea
1.7 Million Africa
1.5 Million Afghanistan
1 Million Eastern Europe
1 Million Vietnam
150,000 Latin America
This 94 million includes executions, starvation, deaths from deportation, physical confinement, and forced labor.
corporate communism?
there are no corporations in communism. did you happen to mean corporatism i.e. fascism? because that would be correct
fascists and commies are pretty bitter enemies, you lumping them together is a massive political science error.
I love you, Visteon judge!
Visteon judge rejects bonuses for top officers
WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) -- A Delaware bankruptcy judge on Wednesday rejected a request by auto parts supplier Visteon Corp. to approve bonuses of up to $8.1 million for its 12 top officers.
But following a hearing, Judge Christopher Sontchi did approve up to $3.3 million in long-term incentives for 83 other Visteon managers, a group that does not include any of the 12 insiders who developed the two bonus proposals.
The ruling came after Michigan-based Visteon last month responded to objections to its proposal to pay up to $80 million through three bonus plans to more than 2,500 employees by replacing it with a scaled-down, $11.4 million plan targeted at only 95 officers and managers.
But the U.S. trustee, the United Auto Workers and International Union of Electrical Workers filed objections to the proposal, contending that the "key employee incentive plan" for the 12 top officers was a disguised retention plan without true performance benchmarks.
"We don't need to shovel extra money at these already well-paid executives to get them to do their jobs," UAW attorney Peter DeChiara argued Wednesday.
It is actually very consistent and logical. The New York banks financed the Russian Communists. If you have to ask the connection between the 2, then you are blind and dumb. Rosevelt fought and financed the Russian communists. The Russian elite and the New York banksters are of the same cloth. Morton Zuckerberg stated: the death of the Russian SOviet meant to him the loss of the Motherland. The New York elite believe in Communism because it is the perfect means to control the People. Hence they financed and created propaganda for its rise and destruction of the West.
This is late stage capitalism in which monopolies and cartels (oligarchies) rule the various economic sectors and by influence to subvert the apparatus of the state to further their interests. The enemy of monopoly capital is organized labor, and organized labor has been effectively marginalized. The other major accomplishment is the subversion of the press through corporate ownership and content control.
The almost sole recourse of the people now is the Internet, and the move is a foot to end net neutrality, the first step to control of this medium as well.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjSTTb_siCU
The support guy just fucks with the caller for 5 minutes then answers his question question in 3 seconds at the very end.
Once they have all the money. They'll create nothing but will breaking and you can't fight back armies. They'll put your only contacts with them on other contintents so you can't just drive to thier offices and mow the motherfuckers down with guns. They'll put antisocial behavior in every aspect of human society and call everyone who rebels or fights against it antisocial.
at work so anom. the term is underground if you think for yourself "attributes of the one" and really its called unified company culture. so developing a cultural framework to work with executive leadership team. The plan will engage employees across a entire organizationin order to align behavior and actions toward a unified winning company culture. I could go on for some time but go back to the keys to this blood as a small primer when you have a chance and heyak, mises really to be short planks it out. by the fine commentary i read your 30 ish and well read group but the world does move on and as for me the bible and mises sums up the state of affairs.
Yeah, it's a goddamn outrage that the caller tried to bully someone over the phone into giving him information while not letting the person speak for more than 3 seconds at a time while he yelled at him incoherently.
Are you fucking kidding me?
What's your account number again?
Man I could so control you into outrage so easily.
You can't see past one step in action/reaction.