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Guest Post: The Counterfeit Economy

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By Charles Hugh Smith from Of Two Minds

The Counterfeit Economy

The U.S. has a deeply counterfeit economy.

Counterfeit money exploits trust by presenting a facsimile of authenticity. A high-quality counterfeit bill (for example, the $100 bills exported by North Korea) are facsimiles of authentic paper notes which then gain the trust of users.

A counterfeit gold bar is a piece of lead coated with a layer of authentic gold. The mechanism is the same: a veneer of integrity tricks the buyer into trusting the validity of the entire bar.

The U.S. has a deeply counterfeit economy.

The predatory mortgages of the subprime era were presented as legitimate mortgages similiar to time-honored 30-years fixed notes with a few "minor differences." These were in effect counterfeit mortgages designed to fool the borrowers and buyers. They were mere simulacra of "safe investments."

Like the counterfeiter who plates the lead bar with a thin coating of gold, the ratings agencies coated the lead bar of toxic, high-risk mortgages with the gold veneer of a AAA rating.

The buyers of the securitized mortgages were promised gold but they were actually buying lead--and the sellers knew it. The trust engendered by the AAA rating and the veneer of authenticity issued by Wall Street was exploited in a vast counterfeiting scheme of breathtaking depth and range.

The budget of the U.S. government as presented by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) is a counterfeit budget, inauthentic and riddled with blatantly false projections. As late as 2009, in the midst of the Great Recession, the OMB was projecting surpluses in the Federal budget by 2012.

By 2009, the OMB had plenty of data on the recession and the opportunity to revise their previous estimates to more realistic levels.

But instead, the OMB continued issuing pie-in-the-sky estimates which grossly underestimated future deficits:

2009 estimate: receipts: $2.7 trillion outlays: $3.1 trillion deficit: $–407 billion

2010 estimate: receipts: $2.93 trillion outlays: $3.09 trillion deficit: $–159.9 billion

2011 estimate: receipts: $ 3.07 trillion outlays: $3.17 trillion deficit: $–94 billion

2012 estimate: receipts: $ 3.26 trillion outlays: $3.22 trillion deficit: $+48 billion

The reality is that the 2012 deficit is expected to hit $1.6 trillion, a sum that equals 11% of the nation's gross domestic product (GDP).

In other words, the OMB and the rest of the Federal machinery issues simulacra of authentic budgets--counterfeits designed to fool the people and win their trust via artifice and facsimiles of authenticity.

As Bernie Madoff recently observed--and we can suppose he is an expert in manufacturing facsimiles, fraud, embezzlement and counterfeiting authenticity out of lies--the U.S. is a giant Ponzi scheme.

The financial "reforms" are counterfeit reforms.

The "balancing the budget cuts" are counterfeit.

The projections of future growth are counterfeit.

The unemployment numbers are counterfeit.

The inflations statistics are counterfeit.

And of course, the "news" which drives the stock market ever higher is also counterfeit.

When everything is counterfeit, then what's left that's authentic and trustworthy? Essentially nothing.


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Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:25 | 1007598 johnQpublic
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welcome to the new normal

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:03 | 1007774 Weisbrot
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isnt this the change, you had hoped for?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:25 | 1007904 Fish Gone Bad
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This is hope and change you can believe in </humor>

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:56 | 1008070 Herd Redirectio...
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Great work by CHS, as usual.  Any one, ANY ONE, who does business with the US gov't is now complicit.  Whether you are personally employed by them, or do contract work for them, you are accepting counterfeit money as payment, but are considering it as good as 'regular' money.  Its not.  The US gov't doesn't have the money to pay you, so they counterfeit (print out of thin air) the money, and pay you with the freshly conjrued dollars.

This stops now.  We aren't going to change this beast from within, but we just may take it down from within, so if you have made up your mind you will continue to accept counterfeit money (can't blame you, as it will feed and clothe the family at the moment as good as 'regular' money) from the Federal Gov't you know the score, and you know what needs to be done.

Its time for a fresh start, like a video game.  Game over, man, game over.

Check out the Capital Research Institute:


Tue, 03/01/2011 - 22:48 | 1009987 vxpatel
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Interesting article...

Economic terrorism makes sense, if not, how would you explain doing the same things to get out of this mess as you did to get into this mess. They obviously have no idea what's gone wrong. They think you can just print more money and they'll break free... by putting us all in debt.

Maybe they've latched onto something big and juicy, the American Sheeple.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 16:00 | 1008369 Problem Is
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"The 'change' is in your pocket."

Cartoon Bears

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:06 | 1007788 Azannoth
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Only 1 question remains, "how long will it take till shit starts floating at the surface?" well not long judging from what is happening in the ME

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:15 | 1007856 jus_lite_reading
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A while back in 2008, someone with great insight predicted O would be the last US president. Why? The entire global economy would implode, sending everything into chaos.

The end is near folks. Buy silver and gold now. Prepare for 5+ years of survival without electricity and running water.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:33 | 1007946 Fish Gone Bad
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Honestly, have you really given much thought to there not being any electricity or water?  People can do without heat and light (in a lot of places), but people absolutely have to have water. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:49 | 1008033 Mad Max
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He said running water, not just "water."  Life without running water is entirely possible.  Life without "water" (note the absence of "running") is 24-48 hours.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:25 | 1008183 Imminent Crucible
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Which is why I called in a well-driller. The well cost $5000, but we hit what the driller called an "underground river" yielding 30+ gallons per minute, enough for 10 houses.

The pump will run off my generator, so now I have to lay in a supply of gasoline and Stabil.

Some of us are really taking this seriously.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 17:01 | 1008753 forexskin
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look into a diesel genset, preferably low (>1800) rpm. diesel keeps much better than gas.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 17:23 | 1008895 Rahm
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Big Berkey.  Pick up a few.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:46 | 1008019 Shameful
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I'm as pessimistic as they come, but 5 years is unlikely. I expect a lot of big towns to turn into charnel houses but that sort of thing tends to burn itself out relatively quickly, few months max. Don't get me wrong, not fun places to be and might be downright apocalyptic for the time it happens depending on how distribution channels collapse. I just doubt it's a long term return to 1890, unless Uncle Sugar decides to say "When in doubt, nuke it out".

If they can have running water and power in Caracas and Johannesburg I have to think such things will not wholly vanish from the West for that period of time. Though some towns like LA will be a rough place to be when the cheap food, fuel, and gov handouts end.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 16:25 | 1008518 Bob
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Completely agree.  And preparing appropriately to that. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:28 | 1007601 redpill
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"When everything is counterfeit, then what's left that's authentic and trustworthy?"

Need it be said?  Gold & silver bitches!

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:33 | 1007628 HamyWanger
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Have you ever seen a pristine-looking JohnsonMattey 10oz. bar cut in two to reveal a tungsten core? I did. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:35 | 1007638 redpill
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Not provacative enough Hamy.

I wonder what the core of SLV is made of if you chopped the brokers in half?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:39 | 1007655 HamyWanger
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The awful truth is that there is even counterfeit Silver Eagles.

I know several Chinese laboratories who are making them. They are currently flooding the US market with large quantities. 

It is a tungsten-chrome alloy which is polished via laser. You can't differentiate real silver from it. 

I'm sure most silver bugs here have some of these innocent-looking coins hidden in their stashes.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:41 | 1007664 redpill
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Better, but now you're ruining the suspension of disbelief.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:42 | 1007667 samsara
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When would these have first hit the market do you think harry?


Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:48 | 1007689 HamyWanger
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They started mass production when the Oz price reached $20. 

I believe they are now about 60% of the annual Eagles sold in the US, and 25% in Europe. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:51 | 1007710 redpill
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lol that's the spirit

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:15 | 1007843 gdogus erectus
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redpill - genius.  That is the funniest exchange I've ever seen between a troll and a poster.  Absolutely laugh out loud funny.  How far we have all come.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:36 | 1007967 iDealMeat
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2nd that..


Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:42 | 1008264 Guy Fawkes Mulder
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They see me trollin'

They hatin'

They hopin' that they gon' catch me writin' dirty...

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 16:28 | 1008546 Bob
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Yo, Hamy ain't no troll!  He's fambly. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 16:41 | 1008635 Guy Fawkes Mulder
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Agreed. Trolls are only offensive to the unenlightened.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 17:01 | 1008761 narapoiddyslexia
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Hamy probably works at McDill Air Force Base, pursuant to the following Google-cached contract solicitation. The original has been removed since being outed here at ZH.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 17:04 | 1008780 Bob
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It's about time the guverment showed a decent sense of humor.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 18:46 | 1009233 tj3
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Hey Fawkcy, I only flagged him as to Honor him. Sometimes, espcially for trolls, flags are a good thing.

ps. imho your avatar is win

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:34 | 1009749 Guy Fawkes Mulder
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I love seeing big numbers.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 21:48 | 1009787 YHC-FTSE
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Not too many! I don't want to see his posts disappear. Then where would we get our daily giggle?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 18:37 | 1009207 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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While Hammy may be a troll he is probably correct in spirit.  Just look around youtube for take gold coins with a tiny "replica" written on the bottom.  I'm not a chemist but I didn't think gold was an easy thing to just electroplate on to tungsten.  So those chanks making the "replicas" are able to mold or stamp tungsten (very high heat...tungsten is used for arc welding tips!) and some sort of cyandine based solution.

Pretty advanced stuff that has lots of scalability.  Chineese fakes won't be made in some 2-bit shack or garage.  If/when it happens it will be an industrial scale.

Damn, those f*ckers fake everything.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:44 | 1008006 bigkahuna
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bullshit -- disinformation. Where are your supporting links.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:42 | 1008260 gorillaonyourback
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you believe, lolol.  im from missouri.  please have some reference articles or proof, i know your spook friends can create some silly article that i can read but remember your gonna need a p-value

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:49 | 1007695 tellsometruth
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support your local mine and mint

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:25 | 1007908 MrBoompi
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APMEX better not be selling these!!!

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:37 | 1007973 britinbe
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good that I bought my collection a good few years ago then...........

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:01 | 1008091 MolotovCockhead
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 I know several Chinese laboratories who are making them

You sound like you know everything!! That makes me suxpect you are a counterfeit too.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:16 | 1008126 fiftybagger
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Hey Hamy, you might want to get your shilling straight.  Tungsten is far too heavy for fake silver.  That would be moly.


AU = 79

W = 74

AG = 47

MO = 42

You might want to glance at a periodic table occasionally before you shill

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 16:19 | 1008489 gorillaonyourback
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well done dude, gotta reveal hamy for what he is.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:13 | 1008142 Stares straight...
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These sound expensive!  I'll take 400 of them please!

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 17:02 | 1008699 SparkyvonBellagio
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Dude, get a powerful NEODYMIUM magnet.




If it does it's a FAKE.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:35 | 1007640 Cash_is_Trash
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Tungsten trumps paper notes.

See how far this fiat regime has taken us?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:36 | 1007645 redpill
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One lump of tungsten in hand is worth two federal reserve notes in the bernank's beard

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:17 | 1007865 Cognitive Dissonance
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Will that be one lump or two?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 17:13 | 1008835 FeralSerf
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Plus it makes excellent bullets.


Tue, 03/01/2011 - 17:51 | 1009050 Cash_is_Trash
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Aren't they Depleted Uranium (DU) substitutes?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:17 | 1007862 jus_lite_reading
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BS. Buy yourself a smelting kit and an acid test. Every serious gold investor owns one.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:42 | 1008001 trav7777
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noninvasive apparatus such as magnetometers and ultrasonic thickness gauges would seem to be desirable tools to have.

The speed of sound is way different through tungsten

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 16:30 | 1008558 Bob
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They must ring very differently when you knock on them then?  Wonder what the pitch is--maybe an electronic guitar tuner will do it. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:34 | 1007613 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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Someone told me that RobotTrader pay's for his little craigslist chippies with fake hundies printed from his laserjet.

Can anyone confirm?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:29 | 1007615 tellsometruth
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i had a brief convo with a vp of a electronics co on the chairlift friday... he would agree...thinks just a matter of time till collapse

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:42 | 1007669 Cash_is_Trash
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Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:32 | 1007621 Don Birnam
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Quite a simple solution, really: return fully to coin of various denominations, and dispense with paper altogether. Much more difficult to counterfeit coin of the Realm.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:51 | 1007706 akak
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I fully agree!

I would LOVE to be able to use precious metal coins in daily commerce.

Paper "money" is a scam, always has and always will be.  But sheep rarely if ever question the status-quo.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:32 | 1007623 gwar5
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You summed it up correctly. It's pretty sad.  I've noticed mainstreet devolving into more lawlessness.

It starts at the top. The only thing to do is withdraw from the system and play defense.


Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:32 | 1007629 Au Member
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Tungsten and Molybdenum bitchez

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:33 | 1007630 LostWages
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When the Bernank was being questioned about monetizing the debt, CNBS cut away to for some talking head nonsense babble.  I wonder who orchestrated this?  I'm sure they were told break off at that point.

All propoganda and smoke and mirrors.  Releasing GS insider trading news at the same time the Bernank is grilled was interesting also.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:34 | 1007639 XRAYD
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The Chairsatan has said recently that other countires can solve their inflation problems because they have the tools to do it. To the best of my knowledge, countries like China and India or those in the middle east, cannot print dollars like the US can - though N Korea is known to have run a counterfeit operation.

So while Ben claims they have other tools, Ben rules because he can create dollars out of thin air even as he destroys its value (it has not been strong during the recent crisis for a reason), supposedly to get other countries to adjust their exchange rates and balance our trade deficits!


Ben would destroy a village in order to save it! 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:37 | 1007647 AldoHux_IV
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Time to burn the current system like old dead rot, and allow for a new one to grow.  Start where the decay is the foulest: central banks, treasuries, and the IMF/Worldbank.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:54 | 1008068 pods
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Burn The F#cker Down!




Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:38 | 1007649 lynnybee
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.... luv Charles Hugh SMITH  ..... deep thinking & articulate.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:38 | 1007653 ShankyS
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Stockcharts may be fucking the little guy/free user by taking access away from those that paid to become members and chart for the masses. Nice. Well done and they did it without any notification.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:46 | 1007683 Judge Judy Scheinlok
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We all use bloomberg here cuz we like giving obscene $$ to the big jew mayor so he can push out his national gun control agenda. Thanks wall st for disarming your opponents.

~Judge J

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:29 | 1007933 AmCockerSpaniel
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Why not disarm your victim?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:43 | 1007674 SparkyvonBellagio
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Hilarious but the majority of the multi-millionaires/billionaires in the ponzi world of 'high' finance actually believe they have the 'right stuff'.  LOL  


Facts are, they just checked their morality at the door a longtime ago. 



Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:47 | 1007692 SparkyvonBellagio
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I say just let the Gimp have 10 minutes with ol' Benny.


Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:55 | 1007726 RumCurrency
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Not to mention that GDP is nothing but a bunch of worthless paper chasing foreign goods and extremely overpriced domestic services.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 13:57 | 1007745 tahoebumsmith
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Just remember that we have put the ENTIRE future of this country into the hands of a man that said we didn't even have a crisis in 07! When I say entire, I mean when this comes unraveled and the rest of the world has had enough of this one trick pony, we are on our own. And with other countries financing our debts and digging our oil, the foundation we stand on will crumble. The only thing we will have to sustain normalcy is ink, however the only problem with ink is nobody will want the paper the ink is printed on. Global revolutions will soon turn to currency wars and when this happens the dollar is done. When this happens nobody will even care what the FED has to say because they will be looked at as the ones who brought the chaos onto the rest of the world.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:00 | 1007758 william the bastard
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You'd be crazy not to own a ton of gold and silver

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:31 | 1007937 akak
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And that is why you own none of either.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:00 | 1007762 Oh regional Indian
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Counterfeit. Counterfiat?

As someone up there said, even tungsten is better. Properly engineered, it gives you light.

This fiat stuff, it burms up all to fast.

And by the way, my personal get-out-of-the-us moment came when I realized thsi very thing, though for different reasons.

And the truth is, currently we are living a conterfeit world. india is just as conterfeit.


Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:03 | 1007772 nathandegraaf
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All of the data is manipulated.  Some of the PMs are counterfeit.  All of our paper money is fiat.  Some of our gold is tungsten. 

Even when revealed to be a scam, PMs are still better. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:08 | 1007797 Misean
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"A high-quality counterfeit bill (for example, the $100 bills exported by North Korea) are facsimiles of authentic paper notes which then gain the trust of users."


Counterfeit's of counterfeit...I loved the use of the word "authentic"...BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:15 | 1008150 FeralSerf
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The difference, and it's a big one, is North Korea's counterfeits are "high quality"; the OMB's counterfeits are not.  NK's work needs an expert in counterfeit currency to detect.  Anyone with a triple digit IQ should be able to see through the OMB's caca del toro.

Why anyone still beleives anything that comes out of Washington and their captive media is amazing.  In a court of law anyone that purjured themselves half as much as that gang of thieves does would be  branded a habitual liar.

Cicero: "Mendaci neque quum vera dicit, creditur" (a liar is not to be believed even when he speaks the truth)

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the state to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie... and thus, by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." - Joseph Goebbels, Reich Minister of Propaganda in Nazi Germany from 1933-1945

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:11 | 1007814 koot
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Peak Fiat Currencies = Revolution

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:14 | 1007834 max2205
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and here comes the false flag "STUDY"....shit never stops amzining me

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:20 | 1007880 gaoptimize
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Trump calls stock market a Ponzi scheme on Rush today at 1:19

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:54 | 1008065 snowball777
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What's less real...the market...or Trump's hair?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:22 | 1007892 Rotwang
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Tungsten fakes are easily detectible with ultra-sonic thickness gauges and a calipers.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 17:00 | 1008734 SparkyvonBellagio
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Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:33 | 1007952 Arkadaba
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Not sure if this story is important (but suspect it may be). I don't follow the bond market - so am unsure:

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:41 | 1007966 Racer
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I watched an old 1952 film recently called Ivanhoe about 12th Century England (based on a book written in 1819)

I thought it most amazing in one scene...

The Saxons had to raise 150 pieces of some coinage, silver or something to pay a ransom to free Richard the Lionheart.

The Saxons were all gathered in a room with lots of gold and other items spread on a very large table, then the head of the Jews (a banker) for England came in who they had asked to help raise the balance of the ransom (100 of the pieces) and he put down a scroll of paper on the table.
They were very surprised and said what use was that piece of paper, to which the Jew said that there were I.O.U.s, for debts on it and that could be used as payment. So the head of the Saxons keenly said, oh could they change their bulky things for such a piece of paper instead!

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:03 | 1008103 ElvisDog
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Another funny thing about that movie (or maybe it was in a later remake) was at the end of the movie when the Jewish banker admonishes Richard to watch his debt level or the banker will wind up owning the kingdom. Some things never change.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:42 | 1007989 Boxed Merlot
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Buying and holding Au, Ag and any other semi-precious material that could be minted into currency with the anticipation of it increasing in value makes as much sense as trusting that federal reserve produced paper, ciphers and promises will retain value. Coinage is valuable for use as the exchange component in trade.

The reason for the amalgamations is to improve the "hand-ability" of the coins themselves. Our, the US' foundational documents spell out these responsibilities quite simply and succinctly for our temporarily employed elected legislators to obey.

Establish uniform laws of bankruptcy, (revoke the federal reserve's authority to tax), establish weights and measures and coin money. Then, instruct the treasury to issue instruments redeemable in sound currency without interest as legal tender.

I find it amusing that the "face" values imprinted on coins are so fraudulent and misleading that it makes anything else these bozos pontificate over utterly useless rambling.

Sovereign citizens would do best by ignoring these buffoons and their self serving proclamations and return to authentic trust in one another. This isn't rocket science you know. imo.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:43 | 1007998 e_goldstein
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just read in the Washington Times that terrorist organizations were responsible for the crash of '08.

I didn't realize that the MSM now considers the FEDREZ, the DTCC, the Squid, the Morgue, AIG and the other TBTFs to be terrorist organizations.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:10 | 1008129 swmnguy
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That's an astonishing article.  Astonishing because it actually got printed, and not in any recognized Sarcasm Font.  One of the most preposterous pieces of retroactive CYA water-carrying for the Financial Ponzi grifters I've ever seen.  Worth the read, but be careful; it'll rot your brain if you think about it.  I love the part where they blame Russians, the Chinese, and proponents of Islamic Law.  'Cause it couldn't possibly be the Bernanksters.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 20:24 | 1009531 Papasmurf
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The article is absurd.  The finanical terrorists are those you mentioned.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:47 | 1008020 trav7777
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Our culture is counterfeit as well.

People routinely believe things which simply aren't true.  I could tick down the list of them.

Magical thinking and mass dissonance is widespread and the truth has not been more revolutionary than it is now, for a long time.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:59 | 1008087 Shameful
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Naturally, culture flows from the top down. If we assume that the people who profit most from the system also control the media and culture industry why wouldn't they meddle in the culture? Seems that damaged people would fit in better then whole thinking people in a system that is economic madness.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 14:47 | 1008024 newworldorder
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Most posters here know this, but I will say it for those that still believe.

The vast majority of citizens do not really want to know what is going on financially in this country! Ignorance is bliss.

Don't believe me? Then answer this question. How many hallway/lunchtime conversations have you heard at work on the direction of our county lately? If not at work then how about conversations at church, gyms, clubs, professional associations?

If people are not satisfied - What are they willing to do about it?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:11 | 1008138 KickIce
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The Grand Illusion

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:19 | 1008162 earnulf
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While I believe the price of PM's will continue to rise, with periodic drawbacks, I don't believe the world is quite ready to sink to the level of severe hurt without somebody getting the bright idea to set off a nuke.   The first thing that the US is concerned about when there is unrest in a country is where are the nukes and who has the triggers.   

Having said that, serious disruptions in the supply chain are inevitable and that will create more chaos that anything else.   Just look at behavior when there is a hurricane or a major winter storm and you know how prepared the "average american" is for a crisis of any kind.     When the banks go on holiday, the atms and the credit card kiosks go with them and unless you have something of value to us (first fiat, then barter), you won't get much of what's available.

Anyone who cannot live without going to the store for two weeks will be part of the herd who may not make it through any kind of disruption.   Don't plan on the government to bail you out, if you haven't planned for yourself and your family, then you get what the little boy shot at, nothing.

Serious Panic doesn't set in until three or four days pass, then you start separating the men from the sheep.   

PM's are long term insurance, just don't know how long the long term is

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:24 | 1008184 chumbawamba
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Is this supposed to be surprising?

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 15:56 | 1008331 plata pura
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End corporate person hood! Bitchez

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 16:18 | 1008483 topshelfstuff
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Just this past week on TV, I think it was the Discovery channel, they had an hour on counterfeit dollars, and had Bogota Colombia as the world's counterfeit capital. I just googled this, and some say Colombia, and Peru is up there too. Seems like this is no secret except being in the Media. Here's a few notes:

PROTECT THE PRINTING PRESSES) Unlike the superdollar case [an a yet unsolved case from the early 1990s], agents know where the Orlando bills were printed. On Feb. 11, Colombian police raided the printing plant on a farm near Cali.
The $20 million worth of counterfeit bills was the largest seizure in the country’s history, according to the Secret Service. Colombia is the world’s largest producer of counterfeit U.S. currency, followed by Bulgaria.

Venezuela’s currency, the bolivar, is the usual choice of Colombian counterfeiters. It’s almost as inexpensive as the Iraqi note — worth less than a penny each — and is printed on paper from the same company in Massachusetts that supplies the U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing, Billings said.

a German news service says:

Is the CIA counterfeiting dollars and blaming it on North Korea ?

March 11, 2009 by Infowars Ireland

According to the Frankfurter Allgemeine, a respected German paper, their source may in fact be far closer to home than most people suspected [Translation by Watching America] …

The American secret service, the CIA, could be responsible for manufacturing the nearly-perfect counterfeit 50 and 100-dollar-notes that Washington pins on the terror regime of North Korea. The charge comes after an extensive investigation in Europe and Asia by the Sunday edition of the Frankfurter Allgemeinen Sonntagszeitung of Frankfurt, and after interviews with counterfeit money experts and leading representatives of the high-security publishing industry.

North Korea is one of the world’s poorest nations and lacks the technological capability to produce notes of such high quality. According to the Frankfurter Allgemeinen Sonntagszeitung, North Korea is at present unable to even produce the won [the North Korean currency]. The sources, which do not wish to be identified, allege that the CIA prints the falsified “Supernotes” at a secret facility near Washington to fund covert operations without Congressional oversight.

U.S. officials have not responded to the story.

Secret CIA printing facility

South Korean police have stated that indeed, on several occasions in Seoul, considerable quantities of counterfeit dollar notes have been found in the possession of people from Shenyang and Dadong, Chinese cities near the North Korean border. But according to the South Korea police, the last time they detained a North Korean diplomat carrying large quantities of Supernotes occurred many years ago.

America’s accusations against North Korea are therefore on very shaky ground. And now the pendulum swings back: A rumor has circulated for years among representatives of the security printing industry and counterfeiting investigators that it is the American CIA that prints the Supernotes at a secret printing facility. It is in this facility, thought to be in a city north of Washington D.C., where the printing presses needed to produce the Supernotes is said to be located.



Tue, 03/01/2011 - 16:21 | 1008502 Occams Aftershave
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i wonder what the functional difference is between the secret CIA printing facility and the Fed's more overt printing facility.  What does it matter at this point?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 16:18 | 1008484 Occams Aftershave
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the Government lies to suit its purposes.  This is news?  We are shocked?

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 16:43 | 1008648 Bob
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I just heard a rant by Dylan Ratigan like nothing I've ever heard before on TeeVee.  Think what you like about the network otherwise, but to the extent that the online personalities have any say in the matter, MSNBC has declared War on the banksters and elite. 

Tue, 03/01/2011 - 17:02 | 1008771 SparkyvonBellagio
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Banksters should all be drawn and quartered.

Frauds everyone one of them. Leveraged Gambling with no recourse to them.



Tue, 03/01/2011 - 17:49 | 1009035 sbenard
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What? Don't you believe the mirage?

Wed, 03/02/2011 - 04:16 | 1010507 Diogenes
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"Canada, meanwhile, saw its December Treasuries holdings revised sharply lower to US$76.8-billion from a previously reported US$134.6-billion, suggesting that its banks also may be purchasing on behalf of buyers elsewhere."

From this article.

The above innocent looking paragraph may be more significant than it looks. Over the years I have noticed a common pattern. Every time there is a shakeup in the financial world and the big banks lose billions, at the bottom of the article there is a paragraph explaining that the Canadian banks were in on the scheme while the getting was good but for some reason began to lighten up a year and a half to two years before TSHTF and ended up losing hardly anything.

It happened in 2008 just like every other financial crisis I have seen in the last 40 years and it is happening now.

The Canadian banks can leave the rest of the world's  banks frozen against the cushion the best day they ever saw, including the Swiss.

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