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Guest Post: The Cover-up: BP's Crude Politics And The Looming Environmental Mega-Disaster

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Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:28 | 335150 cbaba
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thanks Tyler, excellent article

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:58 | 335269 merehuman
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Cavern, size of Mt. Everest under the seabed. So is the 3.2 @ Sardis LA  earthquake a foreshadow of whats to come? On another post i was suggesting the possibility of this and was called a fool. I dont look so foolish now.

If my vision is correct there will be a cavein  in the gulf. Ocean water will rush in to fill the lower water level. It will end up with a hell of a tsunamy.

After that , who knows but one thing is for sure, the earth will react.

There is still time to get out of harms way. This will undoubtedly affect other rigs, most wiil also tip, break etc should my scenario come true.

A lot of us will die because of this.

Ok , junk me and i will become a fiction writer.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:11 | 335298 sondog
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Please don't become a writer until you learn to spell.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:08 | 335333 Ripped Chunk
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sondog, doesn't this get tiresome for you?

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 19:54 | 335690 Village Idiot
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These two jokers have a bigger problem than spelling - although ignorance and spelling do go hand in hand.  Isn't the Internet (email) a bitch, guys?  Just ask Fab. by merehuman
on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 18:38


cbaba, you got junked twice already just for mentioning JEWS.

Jews. JEWS JEWS jews and more JEWS.

OK  now junk me to too you ignorant fuck.  The truth is what it is.

by cbaba
on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 19:03

call the megaphone and add more junks,i dont care, it doesnt change the truth ignorant fuck and douche with your mother bag VI.


by merehuman
on Sun, 05/02/2010 - 19:16

less than 5 minutes since i used the miracle word JEW. I already have one junk. Thank you. It feels good to be noticed.

BTW chaba.  It wasnt I that junked you. Anytime i point out how the seats of power in our government is predominantly jewish i get a lot of junks. The truth is what it is.

If all those Jews wore armbands, we would see how they control our society. Perhaps thats why Hitler had them wearing armbands. And yes, truhout the course of my long life i have met, done business with and loved many Jewish people along the way. I do not hate or even dislike Jews. They are people like all others. Still, the fact remains that they hold many powerful seats.

If all those same seats were held by, say Chinese, there would be a hell of an outcry ? would there not?




Thu, 05/06/2010 - 22:01 | 336074 merehuman
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village idiot , you have succeeded in stopping any further posts from me.

Its pointless anyway and i have better things to do. You actually did me a favor.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 22:07 | 336092 Village Idiot
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Reincarnate.  And next time - hold it with the stuff that has no place on ZH (or, anywhere for that matter).  Godspeed.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:17 | 335306 cossack55
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Do you mean you will write for CNBS, BP, and the POTUS?

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:23 | 335317 velobabe
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that image just takes my breath away.

this is the scariest, to me, than any stock market crashing 1000pts.

we know it will be saved, over and above this planet and it's beings.

saddest day for the earth, so far.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:58 | 335367 Ragnarok
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That's not how it works, oil is trapped inside the porosity of reservoir rocks, little droplets about the size of a pinhead.


I believe the reservoir is around 18000ft deep so any deformation of the rocks will be fairly slow and plastic like play-dough as the fluid drain slowly over time.  It will not be instantaneous jagged faulting causing a tsunami.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:12 | 335414 dark pools of soros
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it will be worse..  it will disturb Cthulhu and he will rise before his normal feeding cycle..  which will make him grumpy

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:29 | 335477 Harbourcity
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I though Cthulhu was the leader of the Bilderberg group?


Thu, 05/06/2010 - 19:40 | 335654 DFCtomm
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That too.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn


Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:41 | 335511 SylphGlitch
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So R'lyeh is now in the Gulf Coast?

After watching the Dow drop 1000 pts because of one HFT transaction I'll believe it....

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 19:51 | 335651 Ragnarok
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Some people are still grappling with the fact that the earth is round, let alone its 4.5 -4.9 billion year history, basic structure, basic geology and the theory of plate tectonics which governs the crust.  I think it was somewhere in middle school science class.


The world would be a better place if everyone just watched the original "how the earth was made" on the history channel. At least then we could try to build their undrstanding from some concept of reality.




And some basic info on iceland:


Thu, 05/06/2010 - 19:45 | 335650 kengland
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Why does this suprise you TD and readers. LMAO. Am I not reading ZH? You mean to tell me you just woke up to the fact that both repubs and dems are bought and paid for many times over by the same groups? I thought you understood that.


Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:30 | 335155 Fraud-Esq
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waz wondering when someone would say "nationalization". It's one sure way to pay for some stuff but hard to do without an excellent reason...

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:32 | 335164 What_Me_Worry
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...and the lawyers rejoice in their new found printing press.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:33 | 335166 bullwinkle
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$71,000 dollar contribution.  Yeah that sounds like a good reason for Obama to be siding with BP on this mess.

I mean that should at least cover his dry cleaning bill for the year. 

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:39 | 335195 Assetman
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It's amazing how cheaply politicians can be bought.

It might be the best $71k BP has ever spent.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:43 | 335211 docj
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Spot-on, Assetman.  Frankly that's what has always amazed me about politics - not how much money is spent on elections (about what the US spends advertising chewing gum or popcorn, if I recall the numbers correctly), but how little it takes to get the attention of these folks.

Send a $100 donation to your State Senator and see what I mean.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:26 | 335323 lesterbegood
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Invest in a senator? Best investment on the planet! 1000% return on investment!

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 19:24 | 335616 Thunder44
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All this oil gushing out of the bottom of the ocean,where's the coverage how much damage,how much has hit land.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:16 | 335304 DaveyJones
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other prostitutes work for much less, some for just a hit

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:30 | 335330 Gold...Bitches
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And they at least have the courtesy that if they are going to screw you in the ass at least they'll give you a reach around.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:33 | 335345 Ripped Chunk
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That has to be why the bankers and "corporate captains" must laugh and laugh until they piss themselves. How cheap these stupid imbeciles can be bought for. No knowledge of the real world at all. But they get elected.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:58 | 335360 anony
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How stupid can they be to get lifetime salaries twice as good as the private sector, benefits to make an Emir blush, pensions for relatively few years service AND if you think all they get is some campaigin contributions I'd point out that Clinton got $10,000,000 just from Norway for what the fuck?

You grossly misunderestimate the goodies that career politicians manage to have bestowed on them and without an IRS audit, (ever hear of a career politician being investigated by the IRS?) you will never know how wealthy they are but a glimpse of their lifestyle, close up, yet to be vetted by an investigative journalist, would shock you.

They're laughing all right, but only because their $10,000,000 investment likely returned to them at a thousand fold.   

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:11 | 335407 Ripped Chunk
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So how long have you been retired from Congress for?

I guess according to your description, carreer politicians need to become extinct.


Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:39 | 335501 cossack55
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I'll second that motion. We will need more fossil fuels soon.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:17 | 335429 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Yeah, I donned my tinfoil head gear after I read that. Obama would blow his nose on 71K.


Geez, should't we be screening more of this stuff?

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:17 | 335431 Cindy_Dies_In_T...
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Yeah, I donned my tinfoil head gear after I read that. Obama would blow his nose on 71K.


Geez, should't we be screening more of this stuff?

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 19:41 | 335659 Sigma X
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While the 71k might not be reason, a president who recently opened up the Gulf to additional drilling might have his own motivation for wanting this disaster to seem like something less....

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:34 | 335169 AnAnonymous
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Too bad that Obama guy was not elected before.

I always had the feeling that an elected black guy would be allowed to get away with less than your casual white yankee-dankee/hillbilly Joe.

Feeling confirmed.

Covering up for an oil corporation after an oil spill... What a surprise.

Some areas of the world had to fight 20 years or more to get compensated after an oil spill, including cases US oil companies were involved.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:36 | 335176 carbonmutant
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Obama biggest recipient of BP cash

While the BP oil geyser pumps millions of gallons of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico, President Barack Obama and members of Congress may have to answer for the millions in campaign contributions they’ve taken from the oil and gas giant over the years.

BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.



Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:37 | 335180 Nordberg
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Holy Fuck

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:37 | 335182 exportbank
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This is a slow-motion wreck - the loop current that comes up between the Yucatan and Cuba will in about a week - start to move the oil into the Gulf Stream. The only piece of decent luck is that summer is bearing down on us so we'll get some evaporation of the oil but in potential devastation (financial impact) this is on par with public sector pensions.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:38 | 335191 Sudden Debt
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I'm putting all my funds in shorting BP!

Great article!

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:47 | 335349 ZerOhead
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I wouldn't be doing that if I were you...

First of all... anyone with even the slightest passing familiarity with 'soft rock' geology will tell you that a cavern the size of Everest underneath the Gulf is sheer nonsense.

There is indeed a porous reservior rock (usually sandstone or limestone) that contains the oil capped by a non-porous formation above to be sure... but the degree of porousity is in the very low percentages... like 1% or 2% here... so cave-ins are almost impossible.

Nothing will collapse my friends... but any... and I mean any increase in the rate of flow is very bad news indeed... but reports are that the BOP worked with some minor leaks around the seals... which at these pressures is already giving us 5,000 or so bbls/day of leakage.

If the casing fails and the oil emerges outside same however... we are talking a whole different ball game.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:57 | 335364 Hulk
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Latest Gulf Pic:


Note Atlantis in the background...

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:13 | 335416 divide_by_zero
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Some good info here, and of course in UK newspapers, MSM not so much.


Sounds like the BOP was way undermatched for this reservoir, 5000 psi limit but estimate of gas kick in the 60,000 psi range. Saw one estimate that the pocket encompasses a 25,000 square mile area. One petroleum engineer said it was so big that rather than being worried about the world running out of oil he was "more worried about running out of air to burn" (still trying to find that one again). They are also apparently worried about the mud etc coming up from the reservoir abrading the casing to failure. 

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:24 | 335452 ZerOhead
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If the BOP had failed and was 'open' the velocity of oil in the pipe at least initially would be insane. That and fragments of the reservoir rock would indeed abrade the remaining pipe/casing. But without the high flow required that is jusy NOT going to happen. All the pressure... and thus low flow rates... remain below the BOP. If the BOP goes or the oil finds it's way around the casing at those pressures? Then you have an epic disaster in the making.

Fri, 05/07/2010 - 04:19 | 336505 Broken_Trades
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First of all... anyone with even the slightest passing familiarity with 'soft rock' geology will tell you that a cavern the size of Everest underneath the Gulf is sheer nonsense.


Thanks for finally posting some common sense.  I can't believe some of the sensational crap I'm reading here on ZH about the sea floor collapsing, and massive underground caverns.  Obviously whomever is writing this crap has zero knowledge of how oil and gas reservoirs.  Oil and gas is trapped inside the pore spaces of reservoir rock.  Once the oil and gas is gone, what do you think happens to the reservoir rock? 

Think about it dumbasses:  Weve been drilling for hundreds of years all over the world and the sea floor or ground hasnt collapsed anywhere else.  lol



Tyler - Stop posting up sensational crap.  Some of these oil commentaries are pure BS and it's detracting from the credibility of this site.




Fri, 05/07/2010 - 07:18 | 336616 WaterWings
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What a paradox. If it hadn't been posted this comment section would never have existed - and I have learned much from it.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 14:42 | 335209 RichardENixon
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"There is other satellite imagery being withheld by the Obama administration that shows what lies under the gaping chasm spewing oil at an ever-alarming rate is a cavern estimated to be around the size of Mount Everest. This information has been given an almost national security-level classification to keep it from the public, according to our sources."  How is it possible to see this from a satellite? I'm in New Orleans and if things are as bad as this article says I guess I better pack up the kids and scram. My house was filled with 11 feet of toxic water by Katrina and I don't need another hurricane raining crude oil down on my head while oil-soaked water rises up to my neck. That would be a little more than even I would be willing to go through. 

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 17:23 | 335316 cossack55
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I would think the resultant tsunami would be a little more worriesome.

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 18:17 | 335432 dark pools of soros
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that slick water will make it awesome to skim board in...  

Thu, 05/06/2010 - 20:30 | 335794 Clancy
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As someone who has been through at least one oil hurricaine let me tell you you definitely gotta be careful of open flames.

Fri, 05/07/2010 - 07:21 | 336620 WaterWings
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Better tell my friends down south to quit smoking before August.

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