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Guest Post: The Dangers Of A Failed Presidency
The Dangers of a Failed Presidency
By Michael Krieger, of KAM LP
If moderation is a fault then indifference is a crime.
-Jack Kerouac
Virtue is persecuted more by the wicked than it is loved by the good.
-Buddha
Having fallen from the eternal, the Evil One's desires are endless, insatiable. Having fallen from pure Being, he is driven by the desire to possess, to fill his emptiness. But the problem is insoluble, always. He is compelled to have and to hold, to possess and consume, and nothing else. All he takes, he destroys. Certainly he rules the material, as he is called the Prince of this World in the gospels - but only of the things of this world.
-Denis de Rougemont
I have been calling Barrack Obama’s Presidency a failure for at least six months now and it seems that I now have considerable company in this assessment as it becomes obvious to most. It is not a failure because of the Republicans. It is not a failure because of events beyond his control. It is a failure because this was a man that filled a depressed and downtrodden nation with the audacity of hope. When I voted for the man I knew it was against my personal financial interests. It was clear what he would do with taxes. Nevertheless, I got to the polls and voted for this fifth avenue creation thinking maybe, just maybe he might do some of the things he said. Most important to me were two issues related to the military-industrial complex (see Eisenhower’s warning on this during his Farewell Address http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY) and civil liberties. George W Bush was turning America into a depressed police state with perpetual war and consolidation of power between a corporate oligarchy and entrenched political class. A nation where the masses voluntarily gave up many of the liberties the founding fathers fought for merely to ease the fear that consumed them and which was propagated by the administration and the media. I and many others that voted for him even though they disagreed strongly with his economic policies thought he would at least reverse this trend. Why did we think this? Cause he said so. How foolish we were.
That being said, the real answer was certainly not John McCain as I think we would be in just as bad shape with him. I think that what this experience has taught us is that the President of the United States answers to others behind the scene. There are many theories on who these others are but I will keep it very simple. There is clearly a power elite that consists of a union between big corporate and financial oligarchs and career bureaucrats in Washington D.C. These are the folks that pull the strings of all administrations. All you have to do is look at the trends that have been in place since George W Bush and continue under Obama to see what these players want. Bigger government and thus more Federal power, more wealth for the oligarchs (thank you Federal Reserve) and an erosion of the middle class, and reduction of civil liberties in the name of the 1984-like never-ending “war on terror.” I believe in a war on terror of my own. A war against the terror that Washington D.C. is constantly trying to inject into your head so that you sheepishly give away all you rights and power to them. That’s my war on terror.
Ok, so what do I mean by “The Dangers of a Failed Presidency.” I mean that it is July of an election year and Obama’s magic spell that held sway over the American people and the world for about three months has completely washed away. I mean that the printed money mirage recovery that we have had to tragically watch is ending and we have no job growth to speak of other than a few hundred thousand census workers. The public has no appetite for more spending and Bernanke has no cover to print more money (yet). As such, if people think things are in freefall now for this administration just wait and see how the next several months pan out. This then brings me to the following quote:
The bottom line here is that Americans don’t believe in President Obama’s leadership,” says Rob Shapiro, another former Clinton official and a supporter of Mr Obama. “He has to find some way between now and November of demonstrating that he is a leader who can command confidence and, short of a 9/11 event or an Oklahoma City bombing, I can’t think of how he could do that.”
I found this quote in an FT article earlier in the week and it sent chills all over my body. This is how the strategists in Washington D.C. think. They are sick, twisted people. This guy doesn’t even realize how sick and twisted what he said is which is why he said it. Imagine what they say off the record! You can take this quote in many different ways but none of them are good. I am not going to say anything beyond the fact that I would be VERY suspicious if some sort of event occurred before the elections. Google the term “false flag.” Also remember Rahm Emmanuel’s famous quote of “you don’t ever want a crisis to go to waste; it’s an opportunity to do important things that you would otherwise avoid.” Think about this deeply. This doesn’t mean do what the public wants, or follow the constitution. It means that that those pulling the strings of power have the opportunity to do what THEY want, what fits THEIR ideology. Hitler is the most famous modern example of a leader that used a crisis to form his fascist state. Again, I am not talking about Obama in isolation. I am referring to the power structure that has been firmly in place since the 9/11 attacks. Many call it a silent coup. I agree with this assessment.
This email is not meant to create fear. It is actually meant to get people ready if things get crazy for whatever reason. It is a challenge to people. I challenge everyone to think about how they would react should another terrorist attack or something along those lines occur. I was there for 9/11 and I saw the buildings go down in person. I know what it was like to be manipulated by my own government and media in the wake of such an emotional trauma. I also see that what we have done since, with things such as the Patriot Act and two wars that are still ongoing, and I have reflected on how they have changed America for the worse and provided a fertile ground for the elite to take away more of our rights and our wealth. So my rallying cry is that we must be strong and fearless in the face of fearful events. In the wake of anything that may occur in the years ahead we must not react on emotion and NEVER give away our inalienable rights in the name of protection from big brother. Be fearless, strong and resolute. Spend more time with your neighbors and build things up at the local level. If we have those supports then we will be less inclined to cry to the magicians in D.C. and the Federal Reserve for “help.”
Mike
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"loss of objectivity"
Objectively speaking, name one thing Bush did that didn't fail when he was the president.
He didn't even win the war nobody wanted.
correction...Bush did a great job keeping us safe
From knowing the truth of 911
You are correct- Bush II was the largest blunder in the White House in my lifetime.
Let me count the ways in which we are screwed;
People graduate high school in my area with about a 5th grade skillset.
I notice the better off people in the larger cities nearby driving their plush SUV's 80mph yapping on the cell. I wager if you asked college graduates who made the speech warning of the military -industrial complex most would not have a clue.
As you mentioned Bushie invaded the wrong country and hardly a word was said.
In a time of poor choices for elected offices, I had a tough time choking down McCain's choice of a running mate.
All you really have to go on is their actions, I thought about McCain but his pick forced me to vote for Obama.
False dilemma again...what, are we going for a new record on this topic?
Keep believing the only drink choices are 7-Up and Sprite
What you got against Coke and Pepsi, racist? ;-)
What we really need is a none of the above or Tyler Durden on the ballot. Do I have the right to vote for a 31 year old presidential candidate? What happens to our union when the underage underdog holds 80% of the popular vote?
Perhaps our only chance is a black swan voting event; say an anonymous candidate with executive orders already penned.
if you are going to vote you best maintain your dignity in the process
With Bert/Ernie on one ticket and McBush/Palin on the other, I had to put smelling salts under my nose just to walk into the voting booth. Once inside, I stuck my finger down my throat and vomited all over the ticket. The party most clearly visible through my eggs benedict was the party that got my vote.
Is that dignified?
No - but funny as hell - thanks!
I agree with most of what you said.
However, I learned about Eisenhower's "beware the MIC" speech in 10th grade AP History.
I graduate college next year, BTW.
http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/
http://www.enterprisecorruption.com/?page_id=5175
I'm pretty sure Bush invaded the right country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves
Keeping us safe?
Have you been keeping your eye on the target, for the last decade?
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2001/cr112901.htm
Exactly.
He and Cheney tied themselves up in ropes and we were safe until they were done.
riiiiiiight...all those oil contracts and opium fields prove your point. Check.
Afgan right place, decided to stay and not abandon the country to let the Talibanis come back. Politician's fucked it up, royally. But we're there for the opium, right?
Iraq, threatened to upset the apple cart that is our petro-dollar relationship with the ME. Couldn't have that. But we're there to suck all their oil dry and leave them to eat sand, right? I mean, look at all of the lucrative oil contracts we've got there now.
fwiw, I didn't junk you, just disagree.
Yeah, SO safe that militant groups are no longer rapidly growing around the globe fueled on their hate of us and our repression and resource pillage of their poor countries......oh....wait.......
I don't think the whole "let's abolish fundamental rights for people who we don't like" has helped either
Tarheel? I think tar baby. Look it up.
This has been another post that doesn't add to the discussion at all from Rocky Raccoon.
Oh, you spelled raccoon wrong. Never noticed that before now.
I guess it takes somebody who can't spell raccoon to invest in gold.
Somewhere, Barry Williams is crying in his beer over your appropriation of one of his characters' names as your ZH name/id.
Johnny, way back in my early posts you'll find my discussion of using one "c" in raccoon.
I'm not illiterate, as you should know by now.
My tar baby reference is quite on point, by the way. It indicates the diversionary character of his comment. You'll note that he is gone now.
I honestly don't know how it can be considered "failed" when there's little chance of "success" to begin with. At least define the word "fail". The myth of a strong President is exactly that, a myth. The country is controlled by special interests, starting with the banking/oil/military industries.
For at least the past 30 years, and arguably for centuries, any Presidential candidate is vetted by the various special interests and is bought and sold long before ever sleeping in the WH family suite for the first time.
The last President who kissed the special interests on the lips and then bucked the masters wound up being assassinated. Kennedy never had a chance after he failed to go along with another manufactured false flag war called the Bay of Pigs.
Even Ford was shown where the line was drawn. You don't think that assassination attempt was just a squeak for help do you? And then another crazy comes out of the shadows to try to take out Reagan? Really? Classic black ops programs. And what exactly was the whole impeachment of Clinton thingy about?
The point is simple. If we think a President has failed, we're just showing how much we have drunk the Kool-Aid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynette_Fromme
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_assassination
What were the special interests that the Ford administration was infringing upon? No snark intended -- I'm asking sincerely.
I can't say with any degree of certainty but I suspect the powers that be were looking for another war to prosecute and Ford may have resisted. Ford wasn't just some no-body plucked out of obscurity to become President after Nixon resigned as many history books would lead you to believe.
Ford was well connected and knew where all the bodies were buried. I suspect he had many enemies. And I personally suspect he had something to do with bringing Nixon down. He didn't just happen to be picked to be VP by Nixon. There was a great deal of maneuvering by Ford and friends.
Spend some time reading Peter Dale Scott, to name just one author, about the entire time frame from the 60's to 9/11. Scott conducts excellant research and doesn't pick and choose info that suits his agenda. Plus he thinks outside the box.
http://www.amazon.com/Road-11-Wealth-Empire-America/dp/0520258711/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279212685&sr=8-1
CogDis, it is sometimes easy for us to characterize the MiC as evil incarnate, because we never lived through the GDI & WWII. As WWII was winding down (the end-game was a foregone conclusion by 1943), Allied leadership was absolutely petrified about another ensuing depression.
Their solution was to create a perpetual war economy so that all able-bodied persons would be gainfully employed. While the Soviets provided a useful foil, they really did a lot on their own behalf to help Western leadership make their case.
I love talking to my father now that he can (almost) discuss many of things he was involved with back in the day. His one over-riding point is that the Soviet threat was a complete & utter myth - they were built up solely to prop up & maintain our war economy.
He loves to tell me about how NATO captured some Soviet equipment in the 1980s. They cracked it open and discovered the shit was the ORIGINAL German equipment manufactured back in the early 1940s! Not a copy, not an update, no, the original stuff! LOL
That was our enemy. It's what drove the MiC. It's what kept our people employed. (It's what provided me with a very comfortable upbringing.) In some regards, Allied leadership was correct. What was to become of us once we didn't have a potent enemy? Answer: everything was de-classified, shipped over to China, and we began living a credit-binge.
Christ, this hangover is gonna be epic.
That helps explain how the Soviets seemed to be able to keep up even though they were extremely busy stamping the life out of 40,000,000 fellow citizens in destructive labor camps.
I completely agree with the "Soviet Menace" myth. BTW Donald Rumsfeld had a big hand in concocting that myth when he served in the Ford, and particularly the Reagan, administrations. Like I said above, I suggest people read some Peter Dale Scott for a different view of the world since the 60's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld
I'm not sure who the asshole is who keeps flagging you as junk, but it's nice to see others who have done their homework on how shit really works. Rumsefield would go on to concoct the War on Terror after the Soviet Collapse.
aye, CogDiss has picked up a wee "bug" along the way. . . by mentioning "it" you also picked up the contagion!
dejunks for you both - and kudos to both for continuing to expose the myths most labour under.
Like most of them, Donny RedRumsfeld is a piece of ugly work.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/143607/rumsfeld_9_11_confession/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/04/september11/main520830.shtml
"I would not say that the future is necessarily less predictable than the past. I think the past was not predictable when it started."
"We do know of certain knowledge that he [Osama Bin Laden] is either in Afghanistan, or in some other country, or dead."
"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." –on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction
"Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war."
"I am not going to give you a number for it because it's not my business to do intelligent work."
Like most of them, Donny RedRumsfeld is a piece of ugly work.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/143607/rumsfeld_9_11_confession/
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/04/september11/main520830.shtml
"I would not say that the future is necessarily less predictable than the past. I think the past was not predictable when it started."
"We do know of certain knowledge that he [Osama Bin Laden] is either in Afghanistan, or in some other country, or dead."
"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." –on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction
"Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war."
"I am not going to give you a number for it because it's not my business to do intelligent work."
Rumsfeld should be tried for both treason and war crimes, be found guilty and executed.
It didn't stop with the Soviets and the Cold War. The War on Terror is the same game, just different targets. If you have time look up The Power of Nightmares on Google Video. It's BBC documentary that details how the current war on terror has been in the works for decades. To add to that documentary I'd also suggest the Century of Self also on Google Vids. The film basically lays out an arguement of how our currrent political system is little more than a well constructed marketing campaign ran by the elite.
I see a lot of comments blaming Bush and Obama. That seems to point to the naiveness some of the commenters are alluding to. The President (or Congress for that matter) is not in control of the United States. It may have been that way at one point, but empires like species evolve. Today, even more so than before, they are merely faces to keep the masses focused in the wrong direction while the real powers that be bend us over and continue to fuck us. You gotta figure if you have a ton of power and money, do you really want to be the face running the nation? Do you really want that type of attention turned your way? There's a lot to be said as far as intelligence for people who can sit back in the shadows and pull strings to get things to go their way.
There is also a great story about the Carter assassination attempt.
May 5, 1979: Two minutes before Carter was about to speak at the civic center mall in Los Angeles, Raymond Lee Harvey was arrested carrying a pistol.[19] He later told authorities that he and another man, Osvaldo Ortiz, were hired to create a diversion so that Mexican hit men armed with sniper rifles could kill Carter. Charges against him were dismissed for lack of evidence.
Lee harvey Oswald... Amazing, No?
CD: assassination ops are designed in various ways. it is highly likely that the the two "lone nut" attempts on ford in september 1975 were not intended to kill him, given that no snipers seem to have been involved in either attempt. it is also unlikely that the junior member of the controlling troika of the warren commission (the others being mccloy and the de facto chairman, dulles) was wandering off the reservation. there is no policy-based reason to believe so. the phoney attempts on his life were most likely arranged by the inheritor(s) of the dulles network and were intended to force nelson rockefeller off the ticket, either by fooling ford into thinking that rockefeller was behind the attempts, or more likely as a stark warning, since ford probably knew the score. ford dropped rockefeller, but then the rockefeller-backed candidate, jimmy carter, defeated ford. not long afterward, john d rockefeller the third and nelson died in unlikely circumstances, and soon thereafter, john lennon, ronald reagan, and the pope were shot. this was the end of the rash of high-profile assassinations and/or attempts that began in 1963. it ended most likely because the rockefellers had been eclipsed by the inheritor(s) of the dulles network, who thus achieved pre-eminence.
Interesting. I'm still looking into the Rockefellers. Talk about deep politics.
I didn't think the attempted Ford assassinations were "serious" simply because anyone who is serious finishes the job the first time a la Kennedy. The lone nut job is classic black ops and many ops programs are intended to send messages rather than simply to destroy. And not always messages directly to those targeted, but sometimes to other "interested" parties.
BTW your ID seems to spell out CIA Bull S**t or maybe CIA Black (Ops) Specialist? And the all seeing (CBS) eye avatar is a classic symbol of the brotherhood. Are you playing around or playing us? I don't really expect an answer. :>)
CD, it looks as if the rockefellers migrated to the democratic party in 1975-6 and stayed there.
obama is part of the network. he was a college sophomore when carter was defeated, and during that school year he arranged to transfer to columbia. he arrived there in september 1981, just as brzezinski was returning to teach. obama already had some central asian stories to tell, which would have interested brzezinski. after college obama worked for what was probably a CIA front and then went to harvard law school. in chicago he taught law and got into politics. the extent and significance of his "community organizing" is debatable. given the involvement of more than one brzezinski in his campaign, i think it's safe to say that the columbia connection was what launched him. one of the big questions about obama is how did they organize the media destruction of hillary? perhaps a bigger one is whether the 2007-9 stock collapse, or at least the late 2008 action, was arranged in order to improve his chances in the general election. and i wonder whether the continued decline until after his inauguration was related to negotiations with him over policies.
the 1992 election is also fascinating. how do you remove bush senior? answer: with a good campaigner and a wealthy guy playing the fascist and thus siphoning votes from bush. was that all coordinated? probably. was clinton a rockefeller guy? probably. winthrop rockefeller was governor of arkansas during 1967-1970. the 1992 campaign is a long story, and it's still murky.
Webster Tarpley took a beating for speaking out against Obama in the year running up to the Nov 2008 election when the entire world was in love with Obama. Remember Obama's swing through Europe and his speech to that huge German audience? The second coming.
Tarpley seems to have been correct.
http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Postmodern-Making-Manchurian-Candidate/dp/0930852885
http://www.amazon.com/Barack-H-Obama-Unauthorized-Biography/dp/0930852818/ref=pd_sim_b_1
Yep. I'm reading Surviving the Cataclysm right now. Frightening to see the shenanigans from 1996 roaring back 10x
As for the stock market collapse, they were planning that for awhile. I was thinking there would be a serious bear market (only not this bad) in the run-up to tax law changes that revert next year, in order to effect a mass transfer of assets. That's why I expect one more collapse before year-end, and logically before the election.
Wonderful posts!
Thanks, US Patriots!
CB, for me, "failed" is easy to define: Not fulfilling campaign promises, not bringing in new talent (economic advisers same as before, and worse), not being able to utilize the Office to its potential. He could do a LOT of good there, but he just has not followed through. I do not discount the behind-the-scenes shenanigans, but a strong personality could overcome or redefine some of the policies. Short of threatening his life and family, what can they actually DO to him? Like I said, I don't discount any of that! But he can/cold at least SEEM to be doing something. It's a tough job, but let's not forget the alternatives in impeachment as so many tin-foil-hat types are calling for: Biden.
Like you said, he "could" do a lot of things. But Obama, like so many before, was bought and paid for long before he was actually "elected" to office. And he signaled again and again during the campaign who his masters really were.
I remember the shock on the faces of some people after Senator Obama voted for the "temporary" Bush Iraq war escalation. Everyone remember that? That was a signal heard loud and clear by those who needed to hear it. And how many times did Obama say one thing on the campaign trail but then conducted huddled conversations with key supporters to say the opposite. "Don't worry, that's just for domestic consumption."
I remember how some of these conversations were even leaked during the run up to November. But when you have a population who lacks moral courage to make the changes needed, that very same population is desperate for someone to promise them the changes they won't enact themselves. Lies are believed because people want to believe them.
I understand that may sound harsh but explain to me why I still have a hard time getting local people to work with me against these forces after all the shit that has gone down over the past 2 years? People will only act like they have nothing left to loose after they have nothing left to loose. And by then it will be too late.
It boils down to the fact that the populace is not given any real choices.
Lock up the presidential "debates" and you pretty much stifle the competition.
Dr. Paul ran as a Republican because he would have had NO chance as any other candidate. Fix the so-called debates for just a teeny starter move. Ain't much but it couldn't hurt.
RR
Population control can best be exerted when the ball is bounced within one political party with two separate factions that appear on the surface to be different but really aren't. There will be no fixing unless and until the average Joe understands that we undermine ourselves when we buy into the notion that an independent vote is a wasted vote.
But the real question is this. WHO is going to "fix" these problems. As long as we sit around waiting for either the crooks to stop thieving or the saviour to save us, it's only going to get worse. We are the cops. We are the power. We must fix the problems. As soon as we say "someone" or "they" need to fix things, we have delegated the responsibility back to the crooks.
Lurch and I were on the phone one night a couple of months ago, and I had had a few (so to speak). We're both mid-late 30 somethings. I was ranting not only about all the DC/NY global bankster BS but also the much smaller but similar BS from my management (corporate). You know...drawing parallels and what not. At the end of my rant I asked Lurch: "I'm just wondering...when are all the grown-ups gonna show up and put an end to all this nonsense?"
Lurch said: "We are the grown-ups."
we are the cops. The question is, just what is our "acceptable use of force?"
"I" is the biggist little word in the world and "I" think is the most difficult to achieve. Milestones
+100
Dammit CD I wish we were relatives so I'd have someone to talk to during those long holiday parties.
The rest of the family would make us eat at the children's table. "Now Martha, make sure you put those crazies with the other children." :>)
"The family of the man charged with trying to assassinate President Reagan is acquainted with the family of Vice President George Bush and had made large contributions to his political campaign....Scott Hinckley, brother of John W. Hinckley Jr. who allegedly shot at Reagan, was to have dined tonight in Denver at the home of Neil Bush, one of the Vice President's sons....The Houston Post said it was unable to reach Scott Hinckley, vice president of his father's Denver-based firm, Vanderbilt Energy Corp., for comment. Neil Bush lives in Denver, where he works for Standard Oil Co. of Indiana. In 1978, Neil Bush served as campaign manager for his brother, George W. Bush, the Vice President's eldest son, who made an unsuccessful bid for Congress. Neil lived in Lubbock, Texas, throughout much of 1978, where John Hinckley lived from 1974 through 1980."
Obama isn't FAILING, he's KICKING OUR ASSES.
Wake up and smell the granola.
"I don't think "failed presidency" applies to Obama. Not yet anyway." You are obviously blind.. and to compare W to Obama.. obviously you're clueless enough to not recongize that Obama = W times 3
Alex Jones's views on Shapiro's comments...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22-CIxjm5-Y
"Road Warrior scenario" Does that mean Mel is really a hero not a whack job asshole?
EXACTLY. The "Conspiracy Theory" scenario.
LOL
"I don't trust you. I don't love you. I don't want you."
M. Gibson
I think whoever would have been just picking up pieces.
I agree. We just happen to get the most unqualified whoever trying to pick up pieces. Kind of like getting a first year med student to do Cheney's heart surgery!
On the contrary, I'd love to see a 1st yr med student work on Uncle Dick's heart (what's left of it)
Go figure the left is gonna argue obama couldn't succeed because the white man didn't let him succeed. Right, only whites are the racists right? *rolleyes*
Fuck me. That is some powerful shit.
Mike is dead on. Be careful. Be very careful.
It's too bad that many "found religion" only after voting for Barack Obama.
+1000
(and not just a return gesture)
Liberals......
Wrong. Not "liberals" or "conservatives". They are Authoritarians. Both major parties are only slightly different versions of the same authoritarian statist vision.
The analogy I use is the NFL. Doesn't matter which team you root for, because The League is pulling the strings.
And regardless of how lousy all the teams are, one will still be crowned Superbowl Champ.
Same thing happens with the Presidency.
Bingo!! Congress and the Senate remind me more of WWE wrestling.
+ A lot. Many, many plusses.
Authoritarian? ..... call it whatever; but the policies of the west have been based on .. Liberal agendas for forty years. Conservatives havn't been in power for many, many years.
So there are no conservatives in the GOP? Even Greenspan called Clinton the best GOP president ever. Not that what he says means much now. Control of congress from 94 , with a brief 1 year stalemate until now because the Dems have done nothing but try to prove how conservative they really are.
Keeping that in mind, and also keeping in mind that the GOP believes it's the conservative party, any argument that conservatives haven't been in power, so as not to take blame for what happened, is not going to carry much weight. There are plenty of conservatives in the GOP that are following a marketing plan that has been worked for them to take back power. It's marketing plan without a product the same one that elected Obama. "we suck less?".
It manifests itself in bit and pieces when no unemployment extensions are granted because it increases the deficit, yet another Conservative senator today came out and said new tax cuts in addition to maintaining old tax cuts do not require offsets as the 34 billion for the unemployed do require offsets. That means it's A-OK to toss in a war or two in too without any offsets. This is who is coming to power. Lower and lower taxes and bigger government. A society run not based on rules but what type of pedigree one has and who they know. Same shit, different day , different name. Strange how people here will send off money to a foreign country and kick a poor American to the curb. Loser!.
It all will come down to the trillions owed to the old people. Who will break it to the old people, that the plan all along, was to have the Conservatives kill Granny so as to hand out more goodies?
The captains may be changing shifts but the course is still the same. The icebergs come and everyone wants a chance at the ship's safe before the crash. If that means Granny dies early , tough shit
Conservatives not in power? Bullshit. They have taken over the country. They may not met your definition of what a conservative is, but who really would ever recognize the difference with the current system we have? Congrats, the 18 trillion dollars in debt by 2012 will be in Palin's and the First Dude's hands and those who write their scripts.
republicrats
Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/
The goal of the corporate oligarchy is to monopolize all the wealth in the US. Bin Laden is a
figment of their imagination made "real" through the fear inducing propaganda machine which requires
a constant stream of new boogie men. Noriega, Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden, Imanowhathis name, Kim etc. To believe that any of them represent any real threat to the US is to be
TrulyStupid
How do we know that the men you listed simply oppose the status quo and have been demonized to prepare us to topple them? The Republican Party is dominated by neo-conservatives who are not real conservatives. Neo-cons are globalists and the leaders of countries who oppose the US (who may be evil in their own right) are in their way and must be taken out.
The other problem with this entire line of reasoning is that it leads us to sympathize with state enemies - a dangerous thing to do even if you think they are partly right.
The Bin Laden thing, especially the later incarnations of it (and all the terror threat level changes) had to be propaganda, had to be.
Keep telling yourself that.
um, do a search for CIA faked tapes - it's been acknowledged that the CIA has covert ops doing faked tapes of "Osama" and "Saddam" to supposedly undermine their credibility. . .here's one to get you started:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/05/cia_group_had_wacky_idea...
of course, there are many others. . . just saying.
did you try to say .. dinner jacket ? lol
I'm a maroon dinner jacket I think you refer to...
Spoken like a true CIA operative.
I don't doubt that bin Laden is/was intelligent enough to bait the US/west into an "unwinnable" war that would drag on for a decade. Not one bit.
Bin Ladin is Timothy Osman. There is a lot of history in that name. Turkish coups, CIA funding to said coups, and then you have al-CIA...duh!!!!
So, yes, you are correct, goal was to bankrupt the US. Chalk it up!
I knew that that Obozo's presidency would fail before he even got into office. Once he picked Summers and Geitner I knew we were doomed.
That sinking feeling set in right about then.
All president increasingly incrementally fail the 99% it speeds up as it becomes obvious to the governed that they are no longer represented.
Presidents are selected by the elite via their influence and media gang members. Obama has not failed the elite agenda at all (apart from Copenhaguen, he got out flanked by the Chinks ... superb).
I saw a guy walking the Manhattan streets last weekend, had the same shirt as your avatar on....except it had Heath Ledger's "Joker", with the wording "JOKE" on it.
Brilliant.
It's amazing they can basically come out and say "Man we really need a terror attack, that would really help us out" and very few people lift their eyes from the TV and ask "Did they just say we need another terror attack?". This is not an isolated incident either, I've heard it from other pundits and news personalities. They shove it right in our faces. They don't even respect us enough to hide their crimes anymore.
Bingo. It is being screamed at us. 50 years of media and ad bombardment has crushed the average intellect.
The slave mentality is developed over generations, passed from mother/father to son/daughter. Like a domesticated "wild" animal who has lost the will to live, even leaving the cage door open doesn't ignite the survival instinct.
Our only hope is for each of us to slowly work on waking our neighbors. Left to their own devices, our neighbors will only crawl further and further away from the open door and deeper into the warm embrace of denial and isolation.
It is our obligation to attempt to wake the others. We are the first to wake in a smoke filled bedroom. Are we just going to crawl out and leave the others to die or will we do everything we can to drag the others, kicking and screaming in some cases, to safety?
"The slave mentality is developed over generations, passed from mother/father to son/daughter. Like a domesticated "wild" animal who has lost the will to live, even leaving the cage door open doesn't ignite the survival instinct" Excellent analysis.
Witnessed it myself. Dad worked for the big corp. "No way to win kid, but the company is taking care of me". And they did to some degree. The next generation is fucked. Defined benefit plans put too much liability on corps books. And ERISA!!!?? Fuck!
The "planned" evolution of savings makes the 401k the dominant retirement vehicle while simultaneously the stock market starts exploding. "Come join us at the table little guy, we are all making bank" Then they pulled the plug, juiced the housing market to explode the debt, then they pulled the plug on the housing bubble.
Sheep to the slaughter.
I'm sure your ancestors were just as helpful during the Revolutionary War. And I don't care if you say, "Actually, my ancestors are from Kamchatka."
Gully Foyle
Every time I say that, it appears that some of your buttons are pushed. Why GF? Ignore what I have to say if you don't like it. But your personal attack(s) simply shows that you're extremely sensitive on this issue. Why?
If you don't feel any moral obligation to do anything about the present situation, why would you possibly be upset with me saying so? It's just one ass hole's opinion and nothing more. You're in the clear morally, aren't you?
Aren't you?
CogDis, keep at it. Your voice is NOT going unheard in the wilderness. Keep knocking at the door, and many will finally answer the call.
Personal enhancement and freedom via seeing through the lies. It's hard, and I am making little progress.
We CAN change the awful direction our beloved USA is going. By starting out with fixing each of us inside and reaching out to those close to us.
Honestly Gully, you're starting to sound like a scorned 13-year old girl. CogDis politely asked that you refrain from copying and pasting long entire articles in the comments and instead summarize them and provide some insight. Now every time he posts something you start with the Ad Hominems about the story of his wife and child. You have provided many great links to various discussions, but Cog Dis does have a point. Grow up and toughen up a bit.
Watch out Marla and Me. Now GF's gonna be pissed off at you as well. Care to share my fox hole? :>)
Gully, I thought you had given up your editorial ways (ie went to Newsvine or someplace equivalent)?
Leave them. They don't want to be awakened and get mortally violent if they are.
You assume that danger is immediately obvious to everyone or that you have a level of trust to convince them even if they don't apprehend it.
You can go down with the ship trying to convince people to get onto the lifeboats. I won't.
those not ready to leave the matrix, will defend it
Shameful,
I read the FT article also, when I saw that, I shuddered.
However, the fact that it WAS written about, and exposed, made me feel better.
From the aspect that IF something does happen.
WE will without a shadow of a doubt know WHO did it.........there will be NO conspiracy theories, we will know exactly who to go after.
That would be a stupid move on their part.
As far as this statement, I disagree 100%.
"I have been calling Barrack Obama’s Presidency a failure"
It's in NO way a failure, it's a unqualified success.........it has passed EVERY item on their agenda, ALL of them thus far.
Where it can fail, is IF they lose control of the Congress to the point, they have the strength to OVERide his veto's.
IF that happens, THEN look for a MAJOR CRISIS.............guaranteed.
Also, look for a major citizens uprising, and it will not be limited to just riots...............that too, is guaranteed.
".........it has passed EVERY item on their agenda"
I guess we can close up shop and go home, then, huh? We're all good.
John,
Re-read............
" thus far"
"It's in NO way a failure, it's a unqualified success.........it has passed EVERY item on their agenda, ALL of them thus far."
Bingo.. I've been saying it from the start. The smartest thing these people ever did was put a Black President into office before they reduced the standard of living and put us through the final stages of a police state. Prior to that, the Blacks would have been the first to revolt, now, they will reluctantly be the last..
Max Hunter
"put a Black President into office before they reduced the standard of living and put us through the final stages of a police state. Prior to that, the Blacks would have been the first to revolt, now, they will reluctantly be the last.. "
I guess I'm missing just how reductions in upperclass/middle class predominately WHITE standards of living would lead Black to revolt?
Nice little racist slant you tried for.
That was as far from racist as can be. Are you an idiot?.. You know.. All I can do to explain myself is repeat myself.. I will do neither because you don't have the brain cells to get it.. You hear what you want to hear..
I'm a minority and your comment is accurate and far from racist. I remember having this conversation with my parents when he was running. The fact that he was black made me suspicious of what would happen if he got in office. I kept telling them that someone in the shadows was using his race for a specific purpose. I was even more convinced when he won the presidency in a landslide. I think it's still to early to see what, but I think there's a reason he's the first black president. I hope I'm wrong, but something seems out of place when you think timing and how he came to win.
why are you defending yourself from accusations of racism? Who cares? You shouldn't.
He hasn't passed amnesty, ended free speech or done a gun grab yet. We still have some cards in the deck before you can declare "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED".
re ..gun grab. Well yes , no, maybe. I read somewhere he signed a deal with the UN whereas we will be disarmed as per agreement.
mere,
No not yet, ( Hillary's working on it, w/them).
And, there can only be a Gun Grab, if Americans allow one.
Plus w/ recent SCOTUS rulings, there will have to be an OVERTURNING of the BOR's.
I want to be here when that party starts.........
Yeah, a gun grab. I'll either:
1) leave the USA and take my money to Peru
2) fight it out (along with millions of others) when they tap at my door to get my guns & gold
3) or just move back to the Republic of Texas
Whichever looks best for me and mine.
Tom,
If your refering to my POST,
Re-read.
"thus far".
You forgot, Climate Control(Cap n Trade), whatever NEW name they come up with, when folks figure it out.
Every cent you make: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRRsfCD1Bh0
What the man says is true but he left out one point. The Bushir reactor in Iran is set to go active by September. If they decide to destroy it they must do so before it goes active. So whether they view a domestic attack as a necessary pretext to move on Iran is an open question. I kind of doubt it. September 11th was not a government plot. The reaction to that atrocity was very bad but the initial action was not government sponsored. In this case they don't have the luxury of waiting for the oponent to play a card first so let's see how evil these people really are.
I'll go along with that.
But what I fear most is that TBTB offer up their selected teleprompter reader as a "sacrificial lamb". The civil unrest that would follow would likely be enough to institute some measure of martial law.
I'm no fan of Obama and I think he's a horrible leader. However, I pray nightly for his personal safety. God help us.
I'm not convinced it was a government plot either. But, I think to myself, why so many lies and secrecy?
WAY too much doesn't add up and there is no possible way to question the inconsistancies in an open and public debate for mainstream to see. I see that as a red flag..
How do you know it wasn't? I mean, maybe the government only abetted some of the players and looked the other way (the jets standing down on 9/11 and the training exercise taking place that same day). It wouldn't have taken much, is my point--just interfere with an FBI investigation in Minneapolis and let the nature take its course.
There is clearly a power elite that consists of a union between big corporate and financial oligarchs and career bureaucrats in Washington D.C. These are the folks that pull the strings of all administrations.
exactly, and more and more people are finally starting to realize this. thanks for the post!
I think that was true before the ink was dry on The Constitution. Probably before that.
But why are the safeguards in the Constitution not enough to keep those force in check? As long as there is a "we the people" do we not have the ultimate weapon by voting the incumbents out of office?
I am sure that the weapons used by the elite are sophisticated but the US is still populated by smart people who have educated themselves enough to see through plots against their liberty. When push comes to shove I don't think we will stand for it.
Also, throughout history the power elite have always overreached. They have always tried to grab too much and in the end they failed. Despite their sophistication I think they will fail this time and will probably fail just when they make their final grab.
Someone tell me why this time is different?
please this bozo is just another puppet of wall street..nothing else..anyone want to know what is really going on in America..go watch Zeitgeist The Movie..it is the most downloaded movie in the history of the net..and our fascist government tried to take it down several times.....end of story...we need to get rid of the Federal Reserve....or we will lose all...
ZEITGEIST
Some of cut our teeth on None dare call it Conspiracy.
Nope. Nice try. Christianity has nothing to do with it. Try Fall of the Republic instead:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU
Interesting thing is that many of us living abroad (i was back in India), knew all this and more about him. From the mainstream media no less.
How many American's read Rense.com, as an example. Miniscule, right? Or wrong.
Anyways, the madness pre-election, the tears.... it was all a bit "much", especially from the outside looking in.
But now, phew! Worst fears realized.
America, you have a teleprompter for a President!
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
Are you saying that the signs of a good leader aren't glistening pecs, perfectly creased pants, oratory blather that makes your leg tingle, and fawning reports of an obama groupie fainting at a lefty rally?
Actually Edmond, yes. Strictly between the lines of course.
:-)
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com
LOL
Oh regional Indian
Once you cull the batshit insane posts from Rense and What Really Happened, there is some fine material.
People tend to forget there is a large group of crazy conspiracy theorists that actually pay attention to events. They may interpret incorrectly but they get the facts right.
Interesting point, ORI.
Tried looking at foreign papers- most in the tank. Didn't read any Indian ones. Probably should have.
Thing is, I and my immediate family knew what this creature from Jekyl Island was... but how 'normal' people who pay bills and live within their means could fall for the fauning media defies belief.
Then again, we've never gone with the herd.
Too bad the kleptocracy, that is our Federal Govt, is bent on ramming more bad legislation down our throat today! Call Snowe, Collins and Brown - Remind them we think and have memory!
Too late. Just got a WSJ alert that they have the 60 votes to move it to the floor where only simple majority is required.'
Interesting side note that in the alert WSJ refers to Owebama as Mr. Obama and not Prez Obama as in he wants to sign the legislation next week.
It takes a special kind of fool to not see that O was cut from the same cloth as every preening leftist in world history.
Here's a guy who claims to have been manipulated by his government and the press under bush, and can't see through the fact that he was manipulated by those same forces as it relates to the obama team. Obama promptly filled his cabinet with the same old retreads that have always been in power, or that have done their worst to ruin whatever task they took to hand. Now Mike claims to see what he didn't then, but his excuses make it doubtful. Sounds to me like the manipulation was an offer and he took it, and he's not too educated to take it again when its offered in different packaging. To blame forces of manipulation is really a copout.
Getting tired of hearing people who try to sound altruistic by saying things like "I voted for him even though I knew it would likely be bad for my own finances" blah blah blah. That's like the phonies who have to qualify their criticism of O by gushing about how many black friends they have, as if you can't have any valid criticism of him unless you have busted a 40 with the homies.
If you are that stupid to swallow whatever anyone gives you to drink, then just admit you were wrong and quit blaming the ones who supplied the bottled stupidity.
Incidentally, O wasn't an unknown quantity just because the press failed to report it. He had a book or two under his belt filled with ideas that should scare any freedom-loving citizen.
Who places assets with this chump Kreiger? The kind of judgment shown--"I voted for him even though I knew it would likely be bad for my own finances"--is just an after the fact rationalization. See how heroic I am, I voted against my own self-interest!
To cite Obama as a creation of Fifth Avenue (perhaps Madison Avenue?), and yet state that Bush was turning America into a depressed police state is to have truely drunk the Kool Aid.
Waking up to the idea that big business is in bed with big government is to admit you don't "get it." I'd say, a day late and a dollar short. Most people who don't "get it" aren't paying attention, or don't care--this guy writes a client letter that says "I'm paying attention and I care" but he doesn't get it. Sounds like a typical momentum trader and trend follower--he went with the crowd and bought the hot stock Obama, and now has buyers remorse
You guys are missing a HUGE point. Pay attention to what this chump Kreiger DOESN'T say more so than what he does say.
Find me in his polemic an alternative political candidate and you can see the closed mindset he's wrapped himself in. It never OCCURRED to this dude that there was any other alternative.
That's game, set, and match, folks, when people don't even grasp that they have boxed themselves. False dilemma is a classic logical fallacy.
How or why would anyone give Michael Krieger money to manage? Anyone that could not see past Obama's BS, non specific, rah rah rhetoric is either stupid or on the dole, since he probably has money that means he's stupid.
oh yes, much better to vote for the rightist side of the alphabet - M & P > O, k?
or you could try READING the article above, and REALISING there are no sides.
Mccain IS a leftist. I don't generally care about VPs because they are useless as a warm bucket of piss.
The difference between O and Mc is a difference of degree, not kind. The only fair way I can comment, therefore, is to say that I truly think mc would have done less damage than O. I hope that didn't sound like a compliment.
I disagree about sides - they do exist. There is a big difference between the right and the left, but there isn't a big difference between right and left leaders. Isn't it interesting, though, that most politicians have veered to the left and not the right?
Hello?...............
Even every day Americans have FINALLY figured this out............
Percentage of Americans that believe OBAMA is a SOCIALIST 55%.
(this was conspiracy/far right nut job talk just 6 months ago).
If that figure was 85% or higher, I'd rest more easily at night. It's hardly a more significant difference than the representative populace who voted right vs left last nov. In fact, it can probably be accounted for by the same electoral independents who helped swing the last election in O's favor. Those independents are largely anti-O now.
Sadly, 36% think that socialism is essentially a positive thing:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/125645/socialism-viewed-positively-americans....
And (only) 60% say that capitalism is better than socialism (though they probably didn't have any operational definition of either, and have no idea that it's currently fascism at work):
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business...
The USA is losing the ideological war against dumb ideas that have been oft-repeated and boast a 100% failure rate.
You have a lot of faith in the same unwashed masses that only last November handed the presidency to a man of no experience in managing a restaurant, much less a country. I wish I shared your optimism, but I believe the population is extremely gullible and apathetic given they were not denied access to any sources of the truth about obama's stance. He even wrote about his leftism in detail, pal'd around with leftist haters of America, and stoked the flames of phantom racial grievance-mongering. And still he won.
The left has masterfully taken over the media, and public education, from k-12 to post sec, and practiced lefty advocacy instead of education. In the last election the left captured the hearts and minds of many of them, and many adults (who knew better) too.
This electorate is way too fickle for me to rest easy.
+1000 etc. can't believe the junks on right thinking Americans. Some poor misguided
faggots need to walk into the light of hope and change, to leave the way clear for the
rrest of us to redeem the Republic.
I junked you for "faggots"
I subscribe to this viewpoint 100%. If you want more background into what Mike is talking about, read, "Shock Doctrine; the rise of disaster capitalism," by Naomi Klein. It's Pulitzer material and most certainly has something to offer as far as your investment strategies might play out.
Good Essay, Mike.
Or check out "Annihilation From Within" by Fred Ikle, published in 2005.
I saw Klein interviewed by Jeremy Scahill or vice versa... doesn't really matter. It was the best 30 minutes of TV I've ever watched. People are sleeping.
The "audacity of hope" is an empty statement when it comes to governance. Hope solves no problems, and as a rallying cry, it touches few emotions that lead to results. But the damn slogan made a nice book cover and fit with the PC zeitgeist our media embraced.
So we elected Mr. Hope, an inexperienced, under-educated poster child for affirmative action, and we expected him to fix problems that most of us are too stupid and/or lazy to even acknowledge. Then we watched as he surrounded himself with a cast of misfits and sycophants, people who couldn't hold jobs as middle-managers in any decent company. How's it workin' out so far?
That's hilarious!
lordy, where to start with you?
if you don't realise that what amkns are living is continuity of governance, where each "president" continues building on the fascist legislation of the previous, eroding civil liberties, social continuity, individual freedoms. . .
it's probably too late for you to wake up, but start reading the PATRIOT Act as your bedtime storytales. . .
I've already read the Patriot Act. I think the concerns around it are grossly exaggerated. I see nothing "fascist" in it.
I am a conservative, and the last thing I want to see is Americans' liberties eroded. But I don't believe the Patriot Act does that.
I've got a buddy who is an FBI agent. He said it's harder for him to get approval for a wiretap after passage of the Patriot Act than it was before. He said internal FBI policies tightened significantly. I agree that the act has had virtually no impact on 99.9% of Americans.
...I see nothing "fascist" in it.
That's because you look at it through Republicans-can't-be-fascist colored glasses. You've got your head so far up the red elephant's ass that you think its shit doesn't stink anymore.
The Patriot Act gave our government unprecedented supervision over our lives, regardless if it's acted on or not. If Obama would have crafted it, every right-wing, conservative wing-nut would be at their chalk boards drawing pictures of Lenin, Marx and Hitler, and crying to get their country back.
Continuity of Government was enacted on 9/11 and has never been rescinded, though there are plenty of people who will deny this is the case. Once this concept has been absorbed and the implications pondered, a lot of the insanity over the past 9 years begins to make much more sense.
Wonder why our elected officials seem to be fully captured and impotent? Wonder why the Fed seems to have total control without any fear of serious reprisal? Have you considered why corporations seem to have a continuous stream of "get-out-of-jail-free" cards? Wonder why the Iraq/Afghanistan wars were prosecuted for 7 years (until Obama) by continuing emergency appropriation? Why has the state of emergency declared on 9/12 by Bush been continued/extended each year, including most recently by Obama? And on and on and on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_of_government
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_emergency
Exactly. Thank you, CogDis.