Guest Post: A Day In The Life Of A “Homegrown Terrorist”

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Submitted By Giordano Bruno of Neithercorp Press

A Day In The Life Of A “Homegrown Terrorist”

There was a time when having one’s name listed in the despised ranks
of those villains that governments often categorize as “terrorists”
involved quite a bit of leg work, as well as an ominous running resume
of death, destruction, and general mean spiritedness. Of course, if one
examines the history of every modern country which eventually
disintegrated into despotism, the definition of who the “enemy” is tends
to become rather broad rather quickly. That is to say, the more
criminal the leadership of a country becomes, the easier it is for the
average person to find himself labeled a criminal by that same

Today, one does not need to blow up buildings, take hostages in
political motivation, send anthrax through the mail, or even wave a gun
around in a public place to be considered a terrorist threat. In fact, a
man could never leave his house and still find himself under suspicion
as an enemy of the state. The Department of Homeland Security has
released numerous standardized guidelines to law enforcement offices
across the country which are meant to make it “easier” for police and
others to identify a possible terrorist. If you were to take at face
value such documents as the now famous MIAC Report, the Virginia Fusion
Center Report, the DHS’ “see something, say something” campaign, the
Enemy Belligerents Act, the post trial statements of the Department Of
Justice in the Liberty Dollar case, or the wild spewing rhetoric of
establishment mouthpiece organizations like the SPLC, then you would
discover that a likely terrorist is:

Anyone who talks frequently about the Constitution, or ill of the government
Anyone who supports the idea of a Constitutional Militia
Anyone who fights against anti-gun legislation, or owns many guns (man do we LOVE guns)
Anyone who supports state sovereignty and 10th Amendment issues
Anyone who supports Ron Paul (the ultimate sin according to the SPLC)
Anyone who believes the private Federal Reserve is destroying our economy
Anyone who talks about the “New World Order”, or global government (does
this include men like George Soros, Joseph Biden, Gordon Brown, Henry
Kissinger, George Bush, Bill Clinton, Strobe Talbot, George McGovern,
Mikhail Gorbachev, Richard Nixon, etc.?)
Anyone who discusses economic collapse as a reality in the U.S.
Anyone who speaks out against the IRS
Anyone who participates in “Hacktivism” (including those who leak documents embarrassing to government)
Anyone who participates in any form of activist group
Anyone who argues that the Left/Right political paradigm is a scam
Anyone who promotes Anarchist views
Anyone who distrusts FEMA (as if Katrina did not give us ample reasons)
Anyone who believes a truly independent investigation of 9/11 is rational and called for
Anyone who home schools their children
Anyone who flies a Gadsden Flag
Anyone who stores survival goods and food
Anyone who uses shortwave radios or HAMs
Anyone who watches movies like ‘Freedom to Fascism’, with anti-Fed messages
Anyone who operates private barter and trade networks
Anyone who stores gold and silver or uses them as an alternative to the dollar

Basically, ANYONE who dissents through independent political
organization or protests through non-participation in the corrupt system
might as well be Al Qaeda…

I could go on for pages with this stuff, but I think you get the
picture. In a world where refusing a naked body scan at the airport
earns you intimidation and a demeaningly thorough pat down, it is clear
that now wherever we go we are all considered “suspects”. Why would I
turn down a naked body scan, one might ask? Well obviously because I
have something to hide; namely my genitalia from the prying eyes of the
TSA. To be frank, my privacy and the privacy of all Americans is more
important than your safety. Get over it.

America is moving closer to financial derailment, and with that kind
of destabilization often follows the escalation of what we call the
“police state”; a governmental framework that is designed specifically
to protect the longevity of the core system that created the disaster in
the first place, remove civil liberties one bite at a time while
demonizing any person who dares to question the necessity of the system,
and institute new social dynamics meant to acclimate the public to the
loss of the freedom and prosperity they once enjoyed. That is, to
condition them to accept the loss as “inevitable” and for the “greater

Most unsettling but absolutely predictable has been the recent
tapping of the SPLC and ever present establishment front man Mark Potok
as the on camera media hit squad against organizations like Liberty
Dollar, and anyone else attempting to promote alternative methods of
currency and commerce outside of the corporately controlled economy.
U.S. Attorney Anne Tompkins’ post trial statement in the case against
von NotHaus that “Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this
country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism” was just the
beginning. Potok has now come forward stating:

“He (von NotHaus) is playing on a core idea of the
radical right, that evil bankers in the Federal Reserve are ripping you
off by controlling the money supply,” said Mark Potok, spokesman for the
group. “He very much exists in the world of the anti-government patriot
movement, whatever he may say. That’s who his customers are.”

Here’s what I love about Mark Potok; his ability to vomit unsupported
accusations and make absurdly false associations all while making the
absolute truth sound “insane” to the useful idiots out there in TV land.
First off, how does Potok define the “radical right”? It sounds
scary, but what does it mean? Who gets to decide what the radical right
is? The SPLC? Is a right wing radical or extremist anyone who just
happens to disagree with Mark Potok’s world view, or the global elitist
vision of the future? Potok routinely haunts the transmissions of MSM
networks to squat on our television screens and unleash a putrid torrent
of Ad hominem attacks without ever having to actually qualify what he
says. It truly is awe inspiring.

His style of propaganda comes from a long tradition of Alinsky-esque
dishonesty in debate. When the SPLC argues a point, their goal is not
to get to the truth of a matter, or to explore the complexity of an
issue, it is to oversimplify the issues, to ridicule the opposition and
taint their image in the minds of audiences before the audience ever
gets a chance to hear the other side of the story. How often does Potok
utter phrases like “radical”, “extremist”, “terrorist”, “white
supremacist”, or hot button names like “Timothy McVeigh” while
discussing legitimate activist groups like the Ron Paul campaign, Oath
Keepers, the Tea Party Movement, anti-Federal Reserve groups, etc? The
purpose behind this is to condition average Americans to automatically
interpret the terminology as being mutually related. To hear Oath
Keeper, for instance, and think “Timothy McVeigh”.

This tactic of false association invariably leads to more generalized
definitions of criminality, or terrorism, and then to more intrusive
legal actions and legislation.

The Liberty Dollar case is now being used by the DOJ in an effort to
set a precedent, which would make it easier for the government to
prosecute any barter network utilizing gold and silver as competing
currencies to the dollar. The message is clear; you are not allowed to
change the system. You are not allowed to buck the system or criticize
the system. You are not even allowed to walk away from the system. You
will sit down, you will shut up, and you WILL participate, whether you
like it or not.

This philosophy is typical of autocratic nations around the globe.
The citizenry is denied the ability to actively have a say in their own
government because the parties involved refuse to represent them, or
even stoop to abusing them, then, they are denied the option to protest
this lack of representation, and then, they are also denied the choice
of opting out and walking away. A slightly more extreme example of this
would be the Chinese propensity for hating the Tibetan people and
wishing they would disappear, while also shooting Tibetan natives who
take the hint and attempt to leave the country by hiking over the
border. Thus, the people are not just an enemy to be silenced or run
off, they are also property which must be fenced in and subjugated.

Potok condescendingly attacks the idea of the Federal Reserve ripping
people off and controlling the money supply as “radical” (both
accusations are true and have been well documented Ad Nauseum by
numerous financial analysts from both sides of the political spectrum. I
challenge Potok to debate me or any other alternative economist on this
in depth). But the real kick is that Anne Tompkins and Mark Potok both
connect the movement towards any barter and trade away from the Federal
Reserve controlled construct as being an extremist endeavor which will
supposedly wreak havoc on the mainstream economy. This casts millions
of Americans into the role of domestic terrorist without them ever
lifting a finger in anger or violence. Again, you are not allowed to
have your own economy, or your own money. You have to play by the
rules, their rules, and become a part of the team.

Being that I apparently seem to fit many of the DHS/SPLC selected
characteristics of a homegrown terrorist, and most of the people I know,
work with, and are friends with, do as well, I feel it is incumbent
upon me to give you a personal peak into the everyday existence of such a
“dangerous affront” to civilized society. For all you terrorism
voyeurs out there, let’s delve into the deep dark recesses of the life
and psyche of the average establishment nominated homegrown extremist…

7:00 AM: I wake up this morning and every morning
with thoughts on how I may better expose the Federal Reserve and the
fetid, morally bankrupt corporate bankers who constructed it. Drink
orange juice. Change out of my Gadsden Flag pajamas and jump into the
shower. Sing the lyrics to Jimi Hendrix’s ‘All Along The Watchtower’.
Rinse. Repeat.

8:00 AM: I jot down my immediate thoughts for the
next terroristic macroeconomic analysis article I plan to complete later
in the day with my long horrifying trigger happy terrorist fingers on
my terrorist built supercomputer. I also eat a blueberry muffin,
probably heated to sumptuous perfection by bakers of the terrorist
persuasion. As you know, we are everywhere. Booga booga…

9:00 AM: Go out for my five mile jog. Have to stay
in tip top condition if Homeland Security plans to hunt me down for all
those goods and silver I’ve been trading on the evil right wing
extremist ultra maxi secret black market. Flea markets, farmers
markets, garage sales, private exchanges of eggs and milk, all under the
nose of the IRS! You name it, I sully the “pristine” nature of the
Federal Reserve system with it.

10:00 AM: Arrive at my day job where I talk to
fellow employees and even employers CONSTANTLY about the stagflationary
threats to the U.S. economy, the inherent tyranny of the central banking
philosophy, the complete idiocy of the Keynesian methodology, the risk
of Treasury depreciation and the loss of the greenback’s world reserve
currency status, along with the need for sound money initiatives,
localized commerce, state sovereignty legislation, and personal defense.
Somehow, they have not yet realized that I am a terrorist. Mark Potok
needs to get his message out there more effectively…

6:00 PM: Arrive home from a hard day’s work. Make
dinner devoid of artificial sweeteners, chemical preservatives, and high
fructose corn syrup. For some reason, I care about my overall health
and shudder at the prospect of feeding from the corporately produced
slop trough, which only seems to slowly morph any unsuspecting human
being into a 300 pound boil infested bottom feeding kankle troll with
the logical and intuitive capacity of a sea monkey. Watch rerun of
Three’s Company (Hey, that show is funny…)

7:00 PM: Sink into couch for some much needed rest.

7:15 PM: Get up off of couch and start my second job as a terrorist writer. We are indeed relentless.

11:00 PM: After spreading my vicious propaganda
about how the leaderships of both major political parties support nearly
the same exact legislation and only seem to disagree in rhetoric, or
when the particular issue is ultimately unimportant to the progression
of globalization, as well as the inevitable downfall of the American
financial system facilitated by the deliberate creation of the
derivatives crisis by the Federal Reserve and global banks like JP
Morgan, Goldman Sachs, HSBC, etc, I then have a shot of whiskey.
Sometimes its depressing being a terrorist, and you have to take the
edge off.

12:00 AM: I now answer many emails from other would
be terrorists across the country who have been wiled by the undeniably
rich and sexy allure of the lifestyle. Being labeled a terrorist is
truly fun and exciting. Being constantly aware of the Godzilla-like
rampage of international banks and the Fed across the ruins of our
monetary system while half of the public is more concerned about what
kind of Gordita they want from Taco Bell is immensely comforting. All
the extra attention we receive from such highly placed individuals as
Janet Napolitano makes us feel like celebrities. I imagine any group in
history who has been singled out by government for their political and
social views or their desire to fix the obvious inadequacies of their
authority structure has felt the same way……fabulous.

1:00 AM: Time to sleep. Warm milk? Check. Air
conditioning at optimum temperature? Check. Bed spread neatly folded
for easy access? Check. Low playing mood music? Check. Loaded
semi-automatic pistol under pillow? Check. (This is actually true in
some cases, and you know what? I salute those people.) Commence
operation Sheep Count. Try to supplant the concerns and the tensions of
a world tomorrow that could be drastically different and even more
frightening than the one we live in today. Worry that I should be
sleeping less and working more to prepare others for what is coming.
Hoping that my belief in the greater potential of mankind is not a
waste, and that my efforts will yield something better for those
generations that follow my own. Yes, I am an extremist, and a deviant.
I will never stop pursuing the tidings of liberty, regardless of the
cost. I am a madman. However, this makes me wonder, what does it mean
to be deemed a madman in a society run by madmen? What does it mean to
be judged a deviant in a nation dominated by deviants? Why is it that a
so called “terrorist” in an atmosphere of dread and tyranny always
seems to end up being but a man who only seeks to be free?

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mynhair's picture

You forgot arguing with a moron TSA drone that can't read a boarding pass in English.

Took two years to clear.  Ef em, I fly by sail.

nonclaim's picture

And never attempt to air travel with a 20" cardboard box. It makes you a terrorist, drug mule, arms dealer and anything else TSA can think of, all at the same time. And if you offer to open and show the gifts... back off! In a two legged flight the box was X-rayed three times, tested for chemical traces twice and finally charged $18.00 in tax after 1h of grilling in customs for what was inside without ever being allowed to open it.

Xibalba's picture

A Saiga 12 is a force multiplier like no one has ever seen.  I'll take that over a light-show any day

Zina's picture


Tea Party Republicans agree with a budget more than 1 trillion higher than that of fiscal year 2007, and will probably vote to raise the debt ceiling above 100% of the GDP!!

All that bullshit was only rhetoric!

Now, just shut up and vote for Obama 2012! There's nothing more to do!

Treeplanter's picture

Another Obama sucker happy on the Democrat plantation.

CH1's picture

Or maybe one of our paid trolls.

Zina's picture

Paid? Send my check, please!!!


I'm anxious to see a Republican in the White House again, and see how the deficit will KEEP GROWING from year to year. 

Even without "Obamacare", the deficit will keep growing, and even with a Republican in the White House, the deficit will surpass 2 trillion per year... 

Then, I will watch some people, which today are so vocal, being completely silent and complacent about the deficit.


Rodent Freikorps's picture

We'll all have to wait and see, won't we?

How about you find something else to get excited about until then, eh?

Larry Darrell's picture

I don't disagree that if there is an "R" in the White House the deficit will continue to balloon, butI thought we were all completely over the D vs R crap by now.


"Then, I will watch some people, which today are so vocal, being completely silent and complacent about the deficit."


This future silence from the "Right" over the deficit when they are in power will be no less deafening than the silence from the "Left" right now on the issue of "unjust wars for oil."


Both sides are the same -- criminals.  Either wake up, or shut the fuck up.

Founders Keeper's picture

[Both sides are the same -- criminals.  Either wake up, or shut the...]---Larry Darrell

Dems and Repubs: Both sides of the same criminal.  Now that sings!


New_Meat's picture

CH1-looking at the below message:


I'm betting you a super-size that you've found yourself one of the Huff Po'z "junior-apprentice-probationary" trolls.  You know, 'cuz Zsa-Zsz can't afford to spend for anything but the very best.  Although, she'll watch with interest at the biting pool, might throw in some chum every once in a while.

- Ned


SubjectivObject's picture

Aww shoot shucks, there goes the Saiga secret.

DosZap's picture

Good Luck finding one, or the Drums.

Xibalba's picture

Not to worry.  Finding one in stock is like trying to find a 1000oz silver bar to take delivery of. 

Gold 36000's picture

You still have to have boots on the ground to control the neighborhood.  That's where we can all get up close and personal.  Your laser thingy won't do you much good in the back alleys.

As far as the saiga 12 get them while you can.  The government is about to ban them.  Shotguns with steel shot are the only legal, non class three weapon that armored troops fear.  If you are up tight against the wall when they come in the door they step inside looking forward before they turn. You aim for the underarm which is exposed when the guy has his gun raised.  Most people are right hand shooters so you need to be up tight against the wall to the right of the door.

If they are coming straight at you then shoot for the face plate.  That is the weakest point on the armor.  You won't kill the guy (hell you can't hardly kill a fully armored attacker with a shotgun unless you can hit him from the side in his underarm) but you will break the face plate and definitely fuck up his aim if nothing else, possibly blind him and put him out of the fight. That buys you time.

Xibalba's picture

GREAT ADVICE, man!  I pair it with an XDM .40 with black talon ammo.  And yes...I'm ready, willing, and able to use them.  I also bought a katadyn microfilter and an ontario afghan knife....among other things.    Gotta get that bugoutbag ready just in case. 

SilverBaron's picture

Surely only a terrorist would spend 300 benny bux on a water filter when the government provides perfectly good fluoridated (for your teeth of course), chlorinated, lithium filled in some cases, water for practically free.  You have just made the list my friend.  Welcome to the club.

Xibalba's picture

I'm a proud, card carrying member!

BigDuke6's picture

You weekend warriors are so fucking tough.

You talk lots of shit but do nothing while the real terrorism takes place in your communities.

Glass Steagall's picture

So, you get that place cleaned up in a jiffy, BigDuke?

Xibalba's picture

I have a non-profit.  What you got 'tough guy'?

whstlblwr's picture

Gold 36000 you make case for US government that you are talking terrorist activity. I say they have right to put you on list. I hope they do, you sound dangerous to me. Your comment is bullshit. Most of you guys are lazy gun horny dudes who want to take it easy and read blogs, not be involved in political process.

They didn't use violence in Egypt, and as shown in history with Boston Tea Party, non-violent, civil disobedience is way to go. I say come on Home Land Security round up these gun toting, scary crazy's on Zero Hedge.

I agree with article though. Potok is trying to make all government disagreement into terrorists and it's not case. Many love US and hate what is happening.

Rodent Freikorps's picture

You do realize they changed nothing but a few faces at the top, right?

New_Meat's picture

dude, ever been to baxter state?  Knife edge is really cool.  (do it w/early snow--fricken' bugs can really suck) - Ned

Xibalba's picture

Been to NH and ME plenty of times.  That's probably the safest place to run on the east coast when the shtf. 

l.kimbot's picture

Damn.  Hope it doesn't come to that but stunning detail I won't ever forget.  Thanks!

chunga's picture

For the price of one AR you can get two Izmash Saiga .223s. Takes about 10 minutes to strip and clean...using a shoe lace if that's all you got. I'm fond of the Road Blocker -- firing a 3" 12 ga. indoors makes everyone go deaf for quite a while.

perchprism's picture


You're absolutely right about that.   My ears are still ringing and my ass is still bleeding two weeks after the fact.

Golden monkey's picture

Buying time is a thing; 25 years is too much.

Mr. Mandelbrot's picture

Shotguns with steel shot are the only legal, non class three weapon that armored troops fear.

Don't forget FN FiveseveNs with SS190 armor piercing rounds . . .

Lednbrass's picture

There is now an affordable alternative to Class 3 for the AR platform, AK version coming later this year if it isnt banned first.  Yeah, this thing is for real and it works, its a bump fire stock.  I recommend not buying online, find a dealer and pay cash- when they banned the Akins accelerator the customer lists let the BATFuckers reposess most of what made it out.  I will soon be driving to another state to pick one up in cash, as it is a stock and not a firearm no checks or paperwork involved-

Get 'em while you can.

Xibalba's picture

Thanks for the link.  Will get my ffl on it.  Any rec's on an upper?

Lednbrass's picture

I tried it on a different brand, but I have seen claims from some various testers on firearms forums and heard in person that it works best on mid length Rock River Arms stuff, and though its not part of the upper their trigger seems particularly suited to this. I have not tried one myself, but am hearing it in enough places that there may well be something to it and am prone to believe it.  Personally I plan to get one a little later this year, I am prone to AK's for sheer reliability but this is worth it imo.

Hope the info helps.

Founders Keeper's picture

[There is now an affordable alternative to Class 3 for the AR platform...]---Lednbrass

Thanks for the link, Lednbrass.

If necessity is the mother of invention, then limiting the 2nd Ammendment is the step-mother of invention.

Something to consider: In a socio-economic environment that limits availability to plentiful reliable ammo, controlled aimed fire has its advantages.


...the range is clear, the line is hot, you may begin fire.


Lednbrass's picture

Agreed on the necessity for controlled fire, but it never hurts to have options. 

paratrooper325's picture

Spot on man. I will be wearing my dogtags and my 82nd ABN DIV shirt that my Father in Law bought me from a disabled veteran in South Dakota when they break in the door to meet some 0.45ACP. Too many good people have died for nothing. I'm just glad that I woke up before it was too late.

Xibalba's picture

If $$$ were no object, I'd be sportin a Kimber Warrior in .45.  On my dream list.

Rhodin's picture

"You still have to have boots on the ground to control the neighborhood.  That's where we can all get up close and personal.  Your laser thingy won't do you much good in the back alleys.

As far as the saiga 12 get them while you can.  The government is about to ban them.  Shotguns with steel shot are the only legal, non class three weapon that armored troops fear.  If you are up tight against the wall when they come in the door they step inside looking forward before they turn. You aim for the underarm which is exposed when the guy has his gun raised.  Most people are right hand shooters so you need to be up tight against the wall to the right of the door.

If they are coming straight at you then shoot for the face plate.  That is the weakest point on the armor.  You won't kill the guy (hell you can't hardly kill a fully armored attacker with a shotgun unless you can hit him from the side in his underarm) but you will break the face plate and definitely fuck up his aim if nothing else, possibly blind him and put him out of the fight. That buys you time."

@ Gold 36000

It sounds like you are looking forward to this, like a new video game, if so, that is insane! 

If you know real armored troops are coming for you, leave, regardless of whose troops they are, unless leaving is also a death sentence.  You might take some with you by surprise,  but they will use heavy weapons, gas, fire blitz, grenades, and/or tanks.  Waco was a poorly executed example, real troops are usually quicker, like second wave in a minute to an hour.  The best way to win this game is not to play it.   If you must play, don't be predictable. 

If you are attacked by renegades, or criminals that robbed an armory, then attempting to kill or drive off the first wave might discourage them, especially if you have radio contact with your neighbors and can arrange a diversion or relief attack.  

If you must use a shotgun with civilian ammo against armor, i would suggest saboted copper slugs, if you can still find them.  If choosing a new weapon for this scenario, get some current military armor and conduct your own ballistics tests.  Unless you have class 3 weapons, or are a master of shot placement under fire, you want a round that both pierces the armor and knocks down the target, hard to find in a CQB weapon.  A tanker Garand with AP ammo might work, both the rifle and the AP are scarce, but the '06 ball round penetrates very well too, again, consider your neighbors.

Avoiding this type of conflict is best, and gearing up for it (or saying you are)could cause it to happen, if you piss off the wrong people.

disabledvet's picture

especially if it has flowers for your mother in it.  then "you're definitely a weirdo."

Arkadaba's picture

Worst I saw was a few years ago (pre-groping). I was in the security line and saw agents make an elderly gentleman (and I mean 80+) in a wheelchair stand up go through the metal detector supported by two companions. The detector went off and they went through his pockets and found a minature pocket knife on his keychain. It was the type of thing parents once gave to their kids (well a few years ago). The TSA person exploded and started yelling at this elderly gentlemen who was clearly confused and upset. Very sad ...

Edit: and my personal worst. Once I was driving back to the States after a weekend in Canada - it was late and a major snow storm (in the snowbelt area- I'm sure a few know what that means). Got off the highway ok but close to the border I couldn't see a thing so I followed the lights of the car in front of me. Well ... in retrospect not a good a idea. I guess he drove into an area where they test large transports for chemicals, radiation, etc. 

In any case, I get pulled over, roll down my window and this muscle-bound idiot starts barking at me: "What are you doing here? Do you know the people in those cars?" And on and on. I tried to answer him rationally but he wouldn't stop. I was getting close to tears (hey I'm a girl so I'm allowed) but then I realized he was getting off on it. Just something in his eyes. That stiffened my resolve and I shut down - answered his questions but absolutely no emotional reaction. He soon got bored and send me on my way.

iota's picture

I was in San Diego a few years back and hit the highway going the wrong way. The last chance turn off had been blocked off and so I ended up in Mexico. Fortunately the person I was with had thier U.S Passport and so they were told they could go on my way.

I had the misfortune of being questioned by Cpt. Shithead

"Are you a citizen, yes or no"

"*explained situation*"

"Are you a citizen, yes or no?"

"But I just explained"

"Are you a citizen!?"

Eventually I thrust my UK drivers licence at him in exasperation. My name is distinctly English and I have blond hair, green eyes and deathly pale skin. In the end he 'deported' me back to Mexico. Three hours later my friend cam back with my passport and my visa waiver form. Coming through again I got the same guy and the prick still tried to grill me.


US customs and borders agents are by far the worst in the civilised (used loosely) world.


Arkadaba's picture

Thanks for sharing. Yeah, I have a few more stories as well and I was legal!

Currently looking at new opportunities but given the current US economic conditions and my past experience there - maybe not. I was thinking about that tonight. First, given that my currency is stronger and the USD is in who knows what territory - coupled with the pain in the ass Canadians have to endure to move there? Maybe not. 

Wondering if there might be an exodus of HIBs from the US? Just askin?

superflyguy's picture

Yes, there will be or there is. I'm leaving and many like me already left... my H1B got fuxored because they changed the rules about a year or so ago. Many people are in the sme boat. I regret leaving because I met some of the best people I know in this country but at the same time I want to get out before things unfold which seems to be coming very soon.

CH1's picture

I know MANY people who are running away. And they are universally intelligent, productive people. Adios tax receipts!


gordengeko's picture

There are many many things you are not being told.

disabledvet's picture

well, actually..."that's what i told them."  it was actually a tommy gun with 1000 rounds.  you have to say SOMETHING ya, know?