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You forgot arguing with a moron TSA drone that can't read a boarding pass in English.
Took two years to clear. Ef em, I fly by sail.
And never attempt to air travel with a 20" cardboard box. It makes you a terrorist, drug mule, arms dealer and anything else TSA can think of, all at the same time. And if you offer to open and show the gifts... back off! In a two legged flight the box was X-rayed three times, tested for chemical traces twice and finally charged $18.00 in tax after 1h of grilling in customs for what was inside without ever being allowed to open it.
Firearms are obsolete:
A Saiga 12 is a force multiplier like no one has ever seen. I'll take that over a light-show any day
Tea Party Republicans agree with a budget more than 1 trillion higher than that of fiscal year 2007, and will probably vote to raise the debt ceiling above 100% of the GDP!!
All that bullshit was only rhetoric!
Now, just shut up and vote for Obama 2012! There's nothing more to do!
Another Obama sucker happy on the Democrat plantation.
Or maybe one of our paid trolls.
Paid? Send my check, please!!!
I'm anxious to see a Republican in the White House again, and see how the deficit will KEEP GROWING from year to year.
Even without "Obamacare", the deficit will keep growing, and even with a Republican in the White House, the deficit will surpass 2 trillion per year...
Then, I will watch some people, which today are so vocal, being completely silent and complacent about the deficit.
We'll all have to wait and see, won't we?
How about you find something else to get excited about until then, eh?
I don't disagree that if there is an "R" in the White House the deficit will continue to balloon, butI thought we were all completely over the D vs R crap by now.
"Then, I will watch some people, which today are so vocal, being completely silent and complacent about the deficit."
This future silence from the "Right" over the deficit when they are in power will be no less deafening than the silence from the "Left" right now on the issue of "unjust wars for oil."
Both sides are the same -- criminals. Either wake up, or shut the fuck up.
[Both sides are the same -- criminals. Either wake up, or shut the...]---Larry Darrell
Dems and Repubs: Both sides of the same criminal. Now that sings!
CH1-looking at the below message:
I'm betting you a super-size that you've found yourself one of the Huff Po'z "junior-apprentice-probationary" trolls. You know, 'cuz Zsa-Zsz can't afford to spend for anything but the very best. Although, she'll watch with interest at the biting pool, might throw in some chum every once in a while.
Aww shoot shucks, there goes the Saiga secret.
Good Luck finding one, or the Drums.
Not to worry. Finding one in stock is like trying to find a 1000oz silver bar to take delivery of.
You still have to have boots on the ground to control the neighborhood. That's where we can all get up close and personal. Your laser thingy won't do you much good in the back alleys.
As far as the saiga 12 get them while you can. The government is about to ban them. Shotguns with steel shot are the only legal, non class three weapon that armored troops fear. If you are up tight against the wall when they come in the door they step inside looking forward before they turn. You aim for the underarm which is exposed when the guy has his gun raised. Most people are right hand shooters so you need to be up tight against the wall to the right of the door.
If they are coming straight at you then shoot for the face plate. That is the weakest point on the armor. You won't kill the guy (hell you can't hardly kill a fully armored attacker with a shotgun unless you can hit him from the side in his underarm) but you will break the face plate and definitely fuck up his aim if nothing else, possibly blind him and put him out of the fight. That buys you time.
GREAT ADVICE, man! I pair it with an XDM .40 with black talon ammo. And yes...I'm ready, willing, and able to use them. I also bought a katadyn microfilter and an ontario afghan knife....among other things. Gotta get that bugoutbag ready just in case.
Surely only a terrorist would spend 300 benny bux on a water filter when the government provides perfectly good fluoridated (for your teeth of course), chlorinated, lithium filled in some cases, water for practically free. You have just made the list my friend. Welcome to the club.
I'm a proud, card carrying member!
You weekend warriors are so fucking tough.
You talk lots of shit but do nothing while the real terrorism takes place in your communities.
So, you get that place cleaned up in a jiffy, BigDuke?
I have a non-profit. What you got 'tough guy'?
Gold 36000 you make case for US government that you are talking terrorist activity. I say they have right to put you on list. I hope they do, you sound dangerous to me. Your comment is bullshit. Most of you guys are lazy gun horny dudes who want to take it easy and read blogs, not be involved in political process.
They didn't use violence in Egypt, and as shown in history with Boston Tea Party, non-violent, civil disobedience is way to go. I say come on Home Land Security round up these gun toting, scary crazy's on Zero Hedge.
I agree with article though. Potok is trying to make all government disagreement into terrorists and it's not case. Many love US and hate what is happening.
You do realize they changed nothing but a few faces at the top, right?
Sarcasm is evident.
dude, ever been to baxter state? Knife edge is really cool. (do it w/early snow--fricken' bugs can really suck) - Ned
Been to NH and ME plenty of times. That's probably the safest place to run on the east coast when the shtf.
Damn. Hope it doesn't come to that but stunning detail I won't ever forget. Thanks!
Enter the Tanto sword
For the price of one AR you can get two Izmash Saiga .223s. Takes about 10 minutes to strip and clean...using a shoe lace if that's all you got. I'm fond of the Road Blocker -- firing a 3" 12 ga. indoors makes everyone go deaf for quite a while.
You're absolutely right about that. My ears are still ringing and my ass is still bleeding two weeks after the fact.
Buying time is a thing; 25 years is too much.
Shotguns with steel shot are the only legal, non class three weapon that armored troops fear.
Don't forget FN FiveseveNs with SS190 armor piercing rounds . . .
There is now an affordable alternative to Class 3 for the AR platform, AK version coming later this year if it isnt banned first. Yeah, this thing is for real and it works, its a bump fire stock. I recommend not buying online, find a dealer and pay cash- when they banned the Akins accelerator the customer lists let the BATFuckers reposess most of what made it out. I will soon be driving to another state to pick one up in cash, as it is a stock and not a firearm no checks or paperwork involved-
Get 'em while you can.
Thanks for the link. Will get my ffl on it. Any rec's on an upper?
I tried it on a different brand, but I have seen claims from some various testers on firearms forums and heard in person that it works best on mid length Rock River Arms stuff, and though its not part of the upper their trigger seems particularly suited to this. I have not tried one myself, but am hearing it in enough places that there may well be something to it and am prone to believe it. Personally I plan to get one a little later this year, I am prone to AK's for sheer reliability but this is worth it imo.
Hope the info helps.
Good link. Thanks.
[There is now an affordable alternative to Class 3 for the AR platform...]---Lednbrass
Thanks for the link, Lednbrass.
If necessity is the mother of invention, then limiting the 2nd Ammendment is the step-mother of invention.
Something to consider: In a socio-economic environment that limits availability to plentiful reliable ammo, controlled aimed fire has its advantages.
...the range is clear, the line is hot, you may begin fire.
Agreed on the necessity for controlled fire, but it never hurts to have options.
Spot on man. I will be wearing my dogtags and my 82nd ABN DIV shirt that my Father in Law bought me from a disabled veteran in South Dakota when they break in the door to meet some 0.45ACP. Too many good people have died for nothing. I'm just glad that I woke up before it was too late.
If $$$ were no object, I'd be sportin a Kimber Warrior in .45. On my dream list.
"You still have to have boots on the ground to control the neighborhood. That's where we can all get up close and personal. Your laser thingy won't do you much good in the back alleys.
If they are coming straight at you then shoot for the face plate. That is the weakest point on the armor. You won't kill the guy (hell you can't hardly kill a fully armored attacker with a shotgun unless you can hit him from the side in his underarm) but you will break the face plate and definitely fuck up his aim if nothing else, possibly blind him and put him out of the fight. That buys you time."
@ Gold 36000
It sounds like you are looking forward to this, like a new video game, if so, that is insane!
If you know real armored troops are coming for you, leave, regardless of whose troops they are, unless leaving is also a death sentence. You might take some with you by surprise, but they will use heavy weapons, gas, fire blitz, grenades, and/or tanks. Waco was a poorly executed example, real troops are usually quicker, like second wave in a minute to an hour. The best way to win this game is not to play it. If you must play, don't be predictable.
If you are attacked by renegades, or criminals that robbed an armory, then attempting to kill or drive off the first wave might discourage them, especially if you have radio contact with your neighbors and can arrange a diversion or relief attack.
If you must use a shotgun with civilian ammo against armor, i would suggest saboted copper slugs, if you can still find them. If choosing a new weapon for this scenario, get some current military armor and conduct your own ballistics tests. Unless you have class 3 weapons, or are a master of shot placement under fire, you want a round that both pierces the armor and knocks down the target, hard to find in a CQB weapon. A tanker Garand with AP ammo might work, both the rifle and the AP are scarce, but the '06 ball round penetrates very well too, again, consider your neighbors.
Avoiding this type of conflict is best, and gearing up for it (or saying you are)could cause it to happen, if you piss off the wrong people.
especially if it has flowers for your mother in it. then "you're definitely a weirdo."
Worst I saw was a few years ago (pre-groping). I was in the security line and saw agents make an elderly gentleman (and I mean 80+) in a wheelchair stand up go through the metal detector supported by two companions. The detector went off and they went through his pockets and found a minature pocket knife on his keychain. It was the type of thing parents once gave to their kids (well a few years ago). The TSA person exploded and started yelling at this elderly gentlemen who was clearly confused and upset. Very sad ...
Edit: and my personal worst. Once I was driving back to the States after a weekend in Canada - it was late and a major snow storm (in the snowbelt area- I'm sure a few know what that means). Got off the highway ok but close to the border I couldn't see a thing so I followed the lights of the car in front of me. Well ... in retrospect not a good a idea. I guess he drove into an area where they test large transports for chemicals, radiation, etc.
In any case, I get pulled over, roll down my window and this muscle-bound idiot starts barking at me: "What are you doing here? Do you know the people in those cars?" And on and on. I tried to answer him rationally but he wouldn't stop. I was getting close to tears (hey I'm a girl so I'm allowed) but then I realized he was getting off on it. Just something in his eyes. That stiffened my resolve and I shut down - answered his questions but absolutely no emotional reaction. He soon got bored and send me on my way.
I was in San Diego a few years back and hit the highway going the wrong way. The last chance turn off had been blocked off and so I ended up in Mexico. Fortunately the person I was with had thier U.S Passport and so they were told they could go on my way.
I had the misfortune of being questioned by Cpt. Shithead
"Are you a citizen, yes or no"
"Are you a citizen, yes or no?"
"But I just explained"
"Are you a citizen!?"
Eventually I thrust my UK drivers licence at him in exasperation. My name is distinctly English and I have blond hair, green eyes and deathly pale skin. In the end he 'deported' me back to Mexico. Three hours later my friend cam back with my passport and my visa waiver form. Coming through again I got the same guy and the prick still tried to grill me.
US customs and borders agents are by far the worst in the civilised (used loosely) world.
Thanks for sharing. Yeah, I have a few more stories as well and I was legal!
Currently looking at new opportunities but given the current US economic conditions and my past experience there - maybe not. I was thinking about that tonight. First, given that my currency is stronger and the USD is in who knows what territory - coupled with the pain in the ass Canadians have to endure to move there? Maybe not.
Wondering if there might be an exodus of HIBs from the US? Just askin?
Yes, there will be or there is. I'm leaving and many like me already left... my H1B got fuxored because they changed the rules about a year or so ago. Many people are in the sme boat. I regret leaving because I met some of the best people I know in this country but at the same time I want to get out before things unfold which seems to be coming very soon.
I know MANY people who are running away. And they are universally intelligent, productive people. Adios tax receipts!
There are many many things you are not being told.
well, actually..."that's what i told them." it was actually a tommy gun with 1000 rounds. you have to say SOMETHING ya, know?
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