Guest Post: Destructive Capability Is No Substitute For Freedom

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Mon, 05/30/2011 - 11:51 | 1322538 duncecap rack
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Very well said!

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:15 | 1322618 RafterManFMJ
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Great, the one job we haven't shipped overseas and do well, efficiently blowing brownskins to bloody bits, and this guy trashes it? Can't we let America be America?

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:31 | 1322645 Quixotic_Not
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Can't we let 'MeriKa be 'MeriKa?

There, FIFY...carry on you bunch of bloodlusting mongrels...

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:08 | 1322729 zeroman
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This is great to write long orations about the obvious evil our country has done this last decade especially. However, none of us, including Tyler, is creating a plan to change things for the future.  How is it we can onlyl have a two headed dragon (dem's and repub's) that works towards its own viscious and selfish purpose and we stand by and just write about it? I think the writing is a beginning. At some point, we must have a revolution and hopefully a non violent one.  This idea that either party serves the people is becoming more and more insulting with each passing day.  It is obvious that neither the Dems or Repubs care about anything but their special interests and the continuation of the status quo.

I mean the candidates we are given to chose from should scream loudly to us all. This is the great minds we have to combat Wall Street, China, Hedge funds, Unions, Lobbyists and the like? The tea party is a good effort under evaluation.  Time will tell if these people will become like the rest, consumed with power, money and re-elections.

We are being trashed at every front by this two-headed monster. What is our plan to crush them? I think a movement from the internet would be the most active, efficient form of political evolution we could as for. It is time to organize the Americans for True Democracy Cooperation where we effectively isolate these crooks and form huge voting blocks to oust them whereever they are.  There could be blogs regarding potential candidates with good business minds who stand as moral examples for us all keeping the special interests of so many kinds out of this effort. A specific focus and priorities should be established where we create action-plans, raise some money, and begin.  Otherwise we can just sit here and eulogize as we have been doing as hopeless dopes watching the pirates pillage and plunder  as we sit here an write about what they are doing.  What say you??

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:12 | 1322741 Quixotic_Not
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I am neither a Republican -or- a Democrat.

I am an American, which I am sure means about -0- to the uneducated mongrel tribes, accept that of a future target for their bloodlust and looting.

Fear is the foundation of most governments; but it is so sordid and brutal a passion, and renders men in whose breasts it predominates so stupid and miserable, that Americans will not be likely to approve of any political institution which is founded on it.  ~ John Adams


Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company...Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. ~ George Washington


If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen. ~ Samuel Adams

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:20 | 1322757 jeff montanye
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ron paul '12

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 15:45 | 1323060 A.W.E.S.O.M.-O 4000
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Had a buddy who campaigned for Obama (he got a job with his administration). Told him back then that if they guy was serious about this hope and change stuff one of 2 things would happen; they would either whack him or buy him off. 

I believe the same with happen to Ron Paul


Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:49 | 1322808 I am more equal...
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This is a fallen and broken world.  It is and always will be this way.  But of all the governing systems that have existed I'll take this one.  Individualism has morphed into selfishness.  When it all begins and ends on 'me' then we have no common interest in sustaining this experiment in democratic republic.  We've become a democracy which is easily lead to the slaughter.  The common good - caring for those truly in need - the elderly, widows, orphans, and sick - is what we need.  The government subsidized trough is filled with 'me' companies, special interests, and aggregated individuals with some common interest.  Make it in the market or fail to all those at the trough. 

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:12 | 1322847 el Gallinazo
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Could you be a little more explicit as to what and who constitutes a human "mongrel?"

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:35 | 1322880 srelf
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"Human mongrel" ala Quixotic_Not:

Any human that I decree has done stupid things with full knowledge.

That said, I don't think you are all here to start fights amongst ourselves. That would be unfortunately counterproductive. I don't particularly like Quixotic_Not's categorization of some of his fellow humans, but suspect he, like most others here, want to HELP bring our country towards the dream our founders, our true leaders, our hard-working people, and those who have sacrificed their lives for, also looked to. 

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 18:04 | 1323243 Quixotic_Not
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Could you be a little more explicit as to what and who constitutes a human "mongrel?"

U.S. citizenrey that place themselves and/or their tribe above the American Democratic Republic experiment, as originally established under Natural Law.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 23:26 | 1324377 Seer
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"Natural Law?"  Are you serious?  How fucking natural was it when many were excluded from partaking in the construction of their own laws? (women, blacks, natives ...)

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:52 | 1322955 macholatte
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The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.
Alexis de Tocqueville Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other.
Ronald Reagan Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they're not.
Hillary Clinton In the long term we can hope that religion will change the nature of man and reduce conflict. But history is not encouraging in this respect. The bloodiest wars in history have been religious wars.
Richard M. Nixon Peace for us means the destruction of Israel. We are preparing for an all-out war, a war which will last for generations.
Yasser Arafat Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas.
Joseph Stalin
Mon, 05/30/2011 - 18:08 | 1323265 Rodent Freikorps
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That Nixon quote is asinine.

I glad he was a crypto-democrat.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 21:42 | 1324050 BigJim
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Yeah... because the difference between Republicans and Democrats is just soooo unequivocal.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:22 | 1322765 zeroman
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Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:33 | 1322786 granolageek
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You're a religious nut job.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:17 | 1322854 cosmictrainwreck
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denial of same being the indicator.... (not to mention all caps, bold font)

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 15:43 | 1323030 oddjob
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Out of the 26 purported Gods of all religions how can I be sure your god is the real god?

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 15:33 | 1323042 BobPaulson
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The correlation coefficient of religion and peace historically is about -0.999


O for a voice like thunder, and a tongue to drown the throat of war!

When the sensesare shaken, and the soul id driven to madness,

who can stand? 

When the souls of the oppressed

fight in the troubled air that rages, 

who can stand?

when the whirlwind of fury comes from the throne of God, 

when the frowns of his countenance drive the nations together, 

who can stand?

when Sin claps his broad wings over the battle,

and sails rejoicing in the flood of Death;

when souls are torn to everlasting fire.

and fiends of Hell rejoice upon the slain,

o who can stand? 

O who bath caused this?

o who can answer at the throne of God?

the Kings and Nobles of the Land have done it!

hear it not, Heaven, thy Ministers have done it!



-William Blake

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 16:02 | 1323092 malek
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I can and do possess morality and strong principles without a god, thank you.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 23:27 | 1324388 Seer
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So, instead of govt dictating our freedoms we get to have clergy do it?

No slaves, no masters.

Oh, and which set of laws are you talking about?  What sect?

Diversity is the thing of life.  By looking to corral everything into one pot you kill life (and I don't think that the "great creator," from which diversity arose, would approve.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 19:15 | 1323386 naughtius maximus
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"If there is hope . . . it lies in the proles" -Winston Smith

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:56 | 1322707 DosZap
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Can't we let America be America?


Hell yeah, THE OLD one.Not the one that the politicians have destroyed.

WE are collectively to blame, WE should have never allowed the PTB to disregard the Founders Guidebook.

Our blood will be on out own heads because of it.

He is dead fricken on.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:34 | 1322896 DoChenRollingBearing
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Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:52 | 1322946 cossack55
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I would but I don't know what gmail is.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:56 | 1322958 AgShaman
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It's the way you keep the NSA and the dept. of Homeland Security informed of your intent to be the best "Domestic Terrorist" you can possibly be

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:38 | 1322666 WALLST8MY8BALL
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I could "Dance" to that!

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:17 | 1322747 merehuman
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sheep can dance?

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:35 | 1322899 DoChenRollingBearing
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Oh, GOOD to see you back merehuman!  I hope that everything is well for you.

Please send me a gmail (you'll figure it out) if you would like to check out my blog.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 18:15 | 1323279 merehuman
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DCRB  i lost everything. Woman died, caring for her last 2 years decimated savings, meanwhile business died death due to the economy, traded truck for taxes paid on house i built but reverse mortgaged. Was suiciadal for a couple of weeks and found how very few friends i had. Just gave up the car in exchange for a place to stay and been digging dirt for ten dollars an hour while waiting return of a FOIA i sent to prove to the germans that i never became a citizen. heading to germany after being here since age 12 and must relearn the language. its a bit challenging to be in my shoes at the moment, but look at it all as an adventure and see many worse of than myself. I can walk on my own, need very little , kept my integrety and am closer to my true self for the huge humbling that came my way. in fact i am finally being thankfull for the adversity. Folks who have it easy do not grow much and so waste away. i have managed to save 5 ounces silver. haha. Life is good as long as it last, cheers to adversity. Now as to should have your family in S. america by now, much less radiation, much less danger and harm. Go my friend, go! You have enough capital, go  and be safe. its insane ti stay in the USA.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 21:42 | 1324058 BigJim
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Good luck ++

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 13:02 | 1325744 WALLST8MY8BALL
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Not at the Jefferson Memorial

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:04 | 1322712 THE DORK OF CORK
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A very instructive and educational Irish vid from the mid 1990s...............


It basically displays why Ireland will always remain a colony - notice how the band play with the strange concepts coming from the crowd and indeed the presenter.

The conservative and stunted growth is apparent for all to see.

A truely magic piece of Irish Telly that will probably become a valuable historical document.

I am sure at least some members of a Scottish audience would have made the connection.

I guess we are just not very bright.

Perfect specimens for colonisation.

By part 3 you realise the band know exactly what they are doing - waste of time in Ireland however.

Even now people cannot make the connection , amazing !

Thank You Gavin for the link.


Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:04 | 1322722 Duuude
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Hijacking the thread, you need to see this on Veteran's Day

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:16 | 1322758 merehuman
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see, its true, sheep cant dance.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:32 | 1322888 Michael
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Oh this country formally known as the USA so deserves everything it has comming to it.

I thank God for the complete and total economic collapse of the USSA. It seems to be the only thing that can possibly help us at this point in time.


Mon, 05/30/2011 - 15:31 | 1323033 sun tzu
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Many innocent people will be hurt due to the greedy, lazy, and shiftless.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 11:55 | 1322541 Alcoholic Nativ...
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Fuck freedom and democracy.


We need truth and justice.  Something these mercs don't seem to give a shit about.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:10 | 1322590 thefatasswilly
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Yes, and a dictator will bring you your truth and justice in spades.

ha ha ha

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:19 | 1322621 Alcoholic Nativ...
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who mentioned a dictator?

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:32 | 1322649 Bay of Pigs
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Truth and justice without freedom? "The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object." Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) Third president of the United States
Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:40 | 1322667 thefatasswilly
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Why is it the only legitimate foundation of government? Quoting some famous white guy doesn't bring your statement justification to anyone with a functioning brain.

Take the modern "will of the people." They accept the corporate fascist government with glee. Thus, our current state is legitimate? That is, in essence, what you are claiming.

The people are stupid.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:47 | 1322689 TheEmperor
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Yes, the people need truth and justice, I can understand their plight...

...perhaps I shall forward my candidacy...(for US presidency? Head of IMF?)

...and invoke 'emergency powers'...

 Lucas, and many others know what comes next.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 13:21 | 1322761 merehuman
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i just fell of my galactic plane!

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 19:34 | 1323430 thefatasswilly
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You, oh "mighty" emperor, see a portion of the spiral well.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 12:57 | 1322704 Quixotic_Not
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Jefferson was nothin' but a poser among the Sons of Liberty, and the first political sophist that pandered to the rabble from the White House, dissembling his way to power after the Continental Congress chose him to be their scribe...

But don't just take my opinion about it, as there are scores throughout US History, like this one:

Too self-indulgent to manage carefully his own lands and his life, he relied upon slaves, as a source of ready capital, selling scores of them to support his habits and pleasures." In Finkelman's opinion, Jefferson was "the arch traitor" against "the hopes of the world."

The sheeple have always  been enthralled listening to dissembling conmen and tribalist race hustlers, no matter their race, creed and/or religion.

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:33 | 1322885 cosmictrainwreck
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well, that's Finkeystein's fucking opinion; just like rectums, everybody's got one. I'd submit - imho -  Tom's personal bidness/so-called incompence had nothing at all to do with his intellect and vision. If "self-indulgent" is a sufficient metric to pole-vault to "arch traitor", well...geez...I'll let the absurdity of it speak for itself. A quick glance at your summary forces me to the conclusion that Mr. F. was (is?) an anal little fuck overcompensating for same with pomposity - jealous as hell of Jefferson's greatness. What comes to mind is Saleri's disgust with Mozart

Tue, 05/31/2011 - 05:34 | 1324687 AnAnonymous
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well, that's Finkeystein's fucking opinion;


Is it a matter of opinions that Jefferson sold slaves to fund his way of life or is it a fact?

Mon, 05/30/2011 - 14:46 | 1322927 srelf
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Dear Kurt Russell:

I think you pulled one sentence totally out of context in that Institute for Historical Review article you link to. I encourage others to read the whole thing.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!