Guest Post: Does The US Government Want To Prevent You From Leaving?

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Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:14 | 1444405 Dangertime
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Freedom is measured not by where you can enter, but whether you can exit.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:18 | 1444424 redpill
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Papers, please.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:56 | 1444604 Ying-Yang
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Passports... We don't need no stinking passports.

Los Zetas are gearing up to offer cross border transport from San Antonio to Mexican safe houses for only $2,000 US per person. They insure safe passage, providing armed escorts using the best AK47 Eric Holder can provide.

See there is change you can believe in!

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:08 | 1444654 Rodent Freikorps
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They'll even throw in a free, unmarked grave for you and your family...after they are done killing the males and raping the females to death.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 15:59 | 1445150 Bob
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Always a few bad apples. 

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:55 | 1444608 Josh Randall
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cue opening riff to "Hotel California"...wait for it...NOW

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 19:24 | 1445833 asteroids
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Be fortunate that the TSA doesn't steal your passport, as they did mine and my wifes!

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:18 | 1444429 augie
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Makes sense, I know a lot of free assholes. 

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:50 | 1444589 Sudden Debt
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 they would not allow me to enter with the normal papers, and instead required that I obtain another customs form

I call it: 20$ and problem solved.

 

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:16 | 1444693 redpill
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$50 at least.  Inflation.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:19 | 1444712 Sudden Debt
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30$ and my sunglasses. I'm sorry, I'm from Belgium, we're broke to you know :)

 

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:21 | 1444726 mr_T
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Money talks $ $ seems like just yesterday I bribed the border gaurds crossing Laos to Cambodia...

If you can't escape from NY or LA you can always vacation at Club FEMA.... All inclusive including transportation...

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:55 | 1444843 Sudden Debt
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I remember those all to well :)

I crossed 3 border crossing going from Laos to Cambodja 2 years ago. It didn't really make that much sense and you only figure out that the first 2 where fake once you crose the 3rd.

Those guard set up as many post needed according to their money needs.

And they only take crips dollar bills.

And how was Vieng Vieng? Still like disneyland with buckets of Whiskey? :)

Don't forget to go to spider city. It's worth it! And try the fried spiders, they're pretty good.

And for 150$ you can go RPG shooting in Pnong Pheng. 500$ if you want to shoot a cow :)

 

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 16:51 | 1445345 MayIMommaDogFac...
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you only figure out that the first 2 where fake once you crose the 3rd.

 

Now that is damn funny.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 16:50 | 1445341 Urban Redneck
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The Cambodians appreciate having some genuine US worthless fiat to dilute all the counterfeit US worthless fiat in the local money supply.  It's not like UNTAC comes to town on a regular basis anymore permitting the local banks to take delivery of (heist) hard currency and stuff their ATMs full the fake stuff to supply the Toyota Taliban on payday.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:57 | 1444607 chumbawamba
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I called the "further information" number included in the "60-Day Notice of Proposed Information Collection" (http://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2011/02/24/2011-4154/60-day-noti...) and asked about the new passport application.  This is what I was told:

- The proposal has been withdrawn.  Passport application remains the same as before (i.e. no additional data collection as described in the proposal).

- The proposal is currently being revised and will be submitted for public comment and review within 30-45 days.

- Simon Black should do more research to get his facts straight instead of talking out of his ass.

- If you have been thinking about getting or renewing your US passport before any such new rules do take affect, begin the application process today.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:08 | 1444660 macholatte
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Simon Black should do more research to get his facts straight instead of talking out of his ass.

Less sensationalism would mean fewer readers would mean less revenue would mean fewer jobs would mean a collapse of the economy and civil unrest. You don't want the blood of innocents on your hands do you? Perhaps you should rethink your position. Simon is doing God's work.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:09 | 1444665 kito
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"Simon Black should do more research to get his facts straight instead of talking out of his ass."

couldnt have said it better myself.


Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:09 | 1444666 augie
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God damn right you are. +1

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:18 | 1444707 illyia
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You are Chumbawamba.

Thx.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:53 | 1444850 pazmaker
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Thanks Chumba,  I couldn't agree with you more... As I said below, Simon is a little late to the party!

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 15:47 | 1445075 Miss Expectations
Mon, 07/11/2011 - 17:55 | 1445561 The Alarmist
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Chumbawamba, you may be the man, but you should at least acknowledge the seriuosness of the fact that this was a "serious" proposal from our lords and masters ... maybe it was simply with the aim of innocently gathering statistically interesting data, or maybe it was with sinister intentions as suggested by Mr. Black.

I for one would answer all the questions with, "Previously disclosed" or "Asked and Answered."  They already know all that crap on people in whom they are interested ... shame those are not the same people who are actually threats.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 18:15 | 1445622 chumbawamba
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I appreciate overall what Simon does but his essays tend to be poorly backgrounded travelogues of little relevance to his primary message, which is "have an exit plan from Fortress USA".  And I couldn't agree more.  But this is my "final straw" moment for his writings, where he regularly employs poorly- or un-researched assertions that are contrary to fact or reality.  It's simple fact checking, and he doesn't do it, which tends to make me feel like he doesn't take what he's talking about that seriously, but rather simply putting words to page to have something for his blog to keep the page views coming and hence the ad revenue.

I agree, it was and is a serious proposal.  According to the person I spoke to they are "re-vamping" it, so they must've felt the ire of We (the People), which is rare, and might be backing off a bit.  Or perhaps they needed to make time to hire linguists to determine how they could word the application in a more pony and rainbow way while still requesting and requiring the same information.  I guess we'll find out when the new application comes out in another month or so for comment.  Whatever it ends up being, I'd take Nancy Reagan's advice on this drug: Just Say No.

When the new application proposal comes out, watch for it, then call or write in and be heard.  If you read the proposal document (linked in the article) they actually anticipate the number of comments they will receive from the public for budgeting purposes.  If enough people can get notified and motivated to comment and the response is overwhelming, it'll actually cost them more to process the responses, and that might send a message.  Maybe.

I am Chumbawamba.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 18:50 | 1445739 BigJim
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According to the person I spoke to they are "re-vamping" it, so they must've felt the ire of We (the People)...

Naw, they're working on making it harder.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 19:25 | 1445837 nmewn
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You're a good man Chumba.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:10 | 1444669 Eternal Student
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Back in the 1990's, I took a flight to Canada. Upon getting in line for customs, I discovered that I had left my wallet back in my car, back in the States. The guy at the customs stand pointed me to the back, once I explained my situation. So I went there and talked to the next customs official. I explained who I was, what I was doing here, and showed my plane tickets to my next connecting flight (which was taking off in an hour). No problem.

Yes, that's right. I legally entered Canada without any ID whatsoever. And I was able to return to the States the same way.

I mention this because that's how things should be, and once were. Living in fear only benefits those power hungry sociopaths who are currently running the joint. Things used be great in this Country, and they can be again. But people have to demand it. It won't be handed out on a silver platter.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:22 | 1444733 Abitdodgie
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You do not need a passport only 14th Amendment and federal citizens need them , they like to know where their slaves go . Stop being slaves and become a sovereign of the real America 

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 21:39 | 1446225 OrestesPenthilu...
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I remember Bill Cooper and Ralph Epperson talking about this....

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 15:05 | 1444895 Widowmaker
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Exactly like debt.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 16:50 | 1445339 He_Who Carried ...
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Permanent passports were invented by the Russians in the aftermath of WWI in order to prevent Russians from leaving the Sovietunion...

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 18:54 | 1445749 almost_have_a_name
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You have to get out of it before you can get into it :)

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:15 | 1444410 Rastadamus
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My whole family has passports. Soon I will have my Jamaican Passport and then my wife and kids will get one too. Born in California, I am fortuante enough to have foreign born parents and a Jamaican naturalization process that is friendly to the offspring of Jamaicans.

 

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:16 | 1444414 props2009
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Another Indian bank raises rates. Now Banks in India are paying 10% for keeping cash in Banks. Risk free return of 10%

http://gmbpost.com/investment-news/india-second-largest-bank-hikes-rates...

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:45 | 1444562 Cognitive Dissonance
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A return of 10%?

Yes.

Risk Free?

Maybe!

On second thought, NO.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:44 | 1444566 Things that go bump
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FDIC equivalent?

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:11 | 1444675 Oh regional Indian
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http://www.rbi.org.in/scripts/FAQView.aspx?Id=64

Try getting money out of an Indian Government Agency though!

ORI

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:17 | 1444702 Things that go bump
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As I suspected.  

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:45 | 1444568 Panafrican Funk...
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Depends on whether they decide to join the turbo squad, and or potential conversion cost issues.  Definitely not a crazy idea to invest in India, but risk free it's not.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:30 | 1444759 Smiddywesson
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If, as I suspect, they can get cheap money from the government, but are willing to borrow it from you for 10%, they are worried about liquidity.  If a bank is worried about liquidity, there's a garrgantuan reason.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 19:00 | 1445769 yesmassarothschild
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They want the liquidity to purchase metals. Gargantuan amounts.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:17 | 1444416 janchup
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I'm glad I'm 71 and wont be too concerned in a decade or two.

"Change We Can Believe In" is code for "I will destroy America" and nothing less.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 14:11 | 1444678 Rodent Freikorps
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Social Justice is in fact code for fuck whitey.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 16:20 | 1445234 Bob
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That . . . sounds good, actually.  It is nice to not have to actually say it.  Inspired, really.

I think I'll start using it. 

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 16:50 | 1445343 Rodent Freikorps
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Geez, Bob, I thought you were dialed in with the ruling elite.

Seems you have some catching up to do.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 17:18 | 1445452 Bob
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lulz

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:17 | 1444417 darteaus
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UrSlAves

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:17 | 1444418 kevinearick
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gotta be smarter than a computer / black hole...

Community Currency

So, those of you who are fluid in wiring and ladder diagram transformation see Caesar’s algorithm for building black holes. It’s pretty simple stupid, once you understand the tools. Caesar has already done you the favor of distilling out all the pieces you need, while locking up the remainder of the economic tiles, for recycling. No community currency will be required.

For everyone else, I will provide an algorithm for setting up a community currency. It’s a temporary feedback signal to align the community into self-regulation and trade of surplus. It has to be withdrawn faster than Caesar can get a lock on it. In the meantime, the first piece is a top-of-the-line currency trader. Find that kid.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:17 | 1444422 the not so migh...
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I have an an enhanced drivers license so the whole hemisphere of the US empire is my oyster.

Mon, 07/11/2011 - 13:37 | 1444500 carbonmutant
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ACLU apparently doesn't like them

"EDL’s contain a unique identifying number encoded in the RFID chip, which can be easily read and tracked up to 30 feet away without an individual’s knowledge or consent."

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