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Guest Post: Dylan Ratigan - "What I Read"

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From Dylan Ratigan, first posted in The Atlantic

Dylan Ratigan: What I Read

How do other people deal with the torrent of information that pours
down on us all? What sources can't they live without? We regularly
reach out to prominent figures in media, entertainment, politics, the
arts and the literary world, to hear their answers to these questions.
This is drawn from a conversation with Dylan Ratigan
, the host of MSNBC's The Dylan Ratigan Show and author of the forthcoming book Greedy Bastards.

So the way my world works is I wake up and I check my BlackBerry, which
is a uranium mine of information. The reason it's so rich with
information is I have the benefit of all my legacy brokerage and
financial research coming into it, I have all the current NBC clippings
and headlines (from tsunami coverage to Casey Anthony to the White
House) and I have my Twitter feed, which is probably the best monitor of
what's breaking. For my first pass, I look at The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Financial Times
and all the major news organizations' Twitter feeds. On the second
pass, I'm looking at the financial universe: the price of oil, currency
pricings, etc. Then I'll log onto my computer and check the homepages of
The Huffington Post, Politico, Zero Hedge, The New York Times and Financial Times and I'll read Naked Capitalism just to see what Yves Smith
is saying about the banking system. I don't subscribe to any print
media. I wouldn't read a newspaper now unless you put a gun to my head
and even then I would really try to negotiate with you. It's not that I
reject the content, it's that I reject the format.

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Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:00 | 1447713 Clueless Economist
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Don't you read Paul Krugman's brillance in the NY Times?

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:01 | 1447716 johngaltfla
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Only if I'm constipated.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:07 | 1447748 TheTmfreak
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*Warning may give you the shits*

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:10 | 1447758 johngaltfla
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Bingo. He always get shit flowing freely with his idiocy.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:22 | 1447802 nope-1004
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Krugman is a paid gov't schill, planted in the NYT and given an MSM blog to spew false gov't doctrine to fight the influence of fact based economic media, like Naked Capitalism, ZeroHedge, etc....

His views are so 1984.

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:53 | 1447912 kengland
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Dylan,

 

No mater what you read or what you say, you are still the same dumb shat that laughed off Peter Schiff time and time again. When the people really needed you, you were pompous, arrogant, and entrenched in the filthy system that you still serve.

Regardless of the color change you supposedly made, you can never be foregiven for such a foolish and ingorant perspective when the truth was there in front of you the whole time. Why anyone would watch, listen or read anything from you after missing all of this is beyond me. But hey, the mass is called the mass for a good reason.

I've wanted to say this for a long time FU idiot

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:11 | 1447974 augie
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+1

Dylan Ratigan is Ron Burgundy.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 16:04 | 1449198 sgt_doom
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I think augie is spot on!

Really, who would ever read the heavily censored HuffPost or Naked Capitalism?  Ariana and Yves, censor b**chez both, always banish anyone who criticizes them from their sites.

Also, there's no mention of either Mad Magazine or Hustler?

WTF?????

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:18 | 1447996 jacekp5
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brawo!!!!

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:27 | 1448023 ATM
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I think Ratigan is learning but part of his education and potentional should be used to bring Schiff on his show and tell him man to man that he was wrong and Schiff saw it all coming years ago.

And really, how could Schiff have been wrong in the first place? It was really simple to see but people wanted to hope and believe. those are the dangers to us now. Hope and belief in a system that looks nothing like a Republic but more like some socialist hegemony that is inraveling before our very eyes.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:49 | 1448783 macholatte
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That combination of news puts me in a situation where I can differentiate between what's actually happening and the blowhard news cycle of fear-monger manipulation and self-indulgent garbage. For instance, you hear a lot of talk on the debt ceiling about how disastrous it's going to be. The nice thing about having access to the financial markets is you can see how full of crap the political media is.

 

But wait, isn't he on MSNBC?

 

One of my great frustrations with working in cable news is that the entire cable news infrastructure has been branded through partisan political lenses and so people assume that if you're on MSNBC you're left and if you're on Fox News you're right. There's no question that I'm painted as left because of the network I'm on. The branding precedes the talent in cable networking.

 

Typical BS. "I'm different. I'm real. ME ME ME"

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:52 | 1448808 skohiu
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People are allowed to change points of view.

 

Schiff may ultimately be correct, but got his ass handed to him in 2008 b/c he was short the dollar with no hedge.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 16:50 | 1449407 kengland
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That's an irrelevant point. The root of the problem is what Schiff laid out perfectly for years. This buffoon laughed and treated him like a charlatan.

The way to navigate it I never agreed with Schiff on. Deflation was the direction.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 16:50 | 1449408 kengland
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That's an irrelevant point. The root of the problem is what Schiff laid out perfectly for years. This buffoon laughed and treated him like a charlatan.

The way to navigate it I never agreed with Schiff on. Deflation was the direction.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:59 | 1447929 Votewithabullet
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fucking homo reads huff po before he checks zero hedge.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:25 | 1448225 Hapte
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loel.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 16:06 | 1449209 sgt_doom
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+1,000

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 16:06 | 1449211 sgt_doom
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+1,000

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:05 | 1447738 SheepDog-One
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I find clipped Krugman articles make decent emergency toilet paper.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:11 | 1447769 TruthInSunshine
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Krugman's a real asshole and imbecile of the highest order.

Here's his latest blogshit in the New York Times, where he openly admits he's all for as weak a U.S. Dollar as possible, based on the myth that it will "help" create U.S. jobs (when in reality, the job creation machine in the U.S. is small biz, and a weak dollar hurts their customer base via loss of purchasing power):


Krugman Wants As Weak A U.S. Dollar As Possible: Suck Down That $8 Per Gallon Gas & Economic Depression With A Smile, Americans!

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 16:09 | 1449224 sgt_doom
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TruthInSunshine completely nails it!!!

Krugman is the typical status quo b**ch who was forever claiming that the best thing for the American economy is to offshore ALL the jobs -- he's been slowly backing away from that lately (similary to Larry Warry Summers' uncle, Samuelson, who began to just before he croaked).

What creates jobs?  Startups!

Who are they?  What American-based multinationals and corporations create overseas, while stealing our money here...

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:16 | 1447787 baby_BLYTHE
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NYT: the toliet paper of record

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:27 | 1447822 Azannoth
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Won't u get Herpes from that ?

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:28 | 1447825 Nihilarian
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Don't you read Paul Krugman's brillance in the NY Times?

No, but I do keep his best writings close by at all times in case I accidentally swallow some poison and need to quickly induce vomiting.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:54 | 1448111 malek
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Krugman's bullshit and the fact that noone ever questions his fluff are the main reason I won't subscribe the NYT.
I might add a good newspaper is based on the opinion writers, not on reproducing AP paragraphs.

So contrary to Dylan I reject the content, not the format.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:00 | 1447714 johngaltfla
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At least he has some taste. If he's reading ZH, he knows that the system is screwed beyond repair and has accepted the new reality of our command and control quasi-capitalist system.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:24 | 1447810 Mactheknife
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Tell me again why anyone gives a rat's ass what Ratigan reads.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:30 | 1447833 Mactheknife
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Slow news day, huh Tyler.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:38 | 1447861 Matxeu
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true but what will we read when censorship hits- bs.  that may be his implied point. 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:24 | 1447892 Max Fischer
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Is this the same obnoxiously cocky, Wall Street carnival barker who, just 2 years ago, was host of a show in which various rat-tailed guests constantly barked over each other with overly feigned enthusiasm, and which encouraged retail investors to flip stocks like hot potatoes in hopes of making "Fast Money" while the entire system was crashing to the ground?

Is this the same guy? 

- Max Fischer, Civis Mundi

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:18 | 1448195 kengland
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Exactly...someone needs a hug today. Problem with ZH as it grows is that it becomes guilty of the same self aggrandizing that it spits on people for.

5 years from now, ZH will be working hand in glove with Goldman. There is no reason to report or read this. That is what ZH has become though. The truth is a sideshow to popularity 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:02 | 1447726 props2009
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Charts: China lending activity rises 15% June

http://gmbpost.com/investment-news/charts-china-lending-booms-in-june-15...

 

A GDP of 10% is achievable

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:06 | 1447743 SheepDog-One
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LOL!

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:08 | 1447749 caerus
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Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:09 | 1447755 Guinny_Ire
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LOL can't think of anyone center to right that lists the Huffington Post as their first source of information. That said I do enjoy some of his work though he tends to be sensationalist in his presentation.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:18 | 1447794 divide_by_zero
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Spoiler, he's a progressive.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:48 | 1447894 aheady
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Can't think of anyone right in the head that lists the Huffington Post as their first source of information.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:24 | 1448016 WSP
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That sir, is because there is no one on earth that reads the Huffington Post unless they hate the United States and everything it stands for.   The Huffington Post is the most egregious of the left wing propaganda---their sole purpose is to spew hate filled propaganda comprised of 90% half-truths and the other 10% outright lies.   While Dylan Ratigan may agree with more moderate peoples view of the corruption in banking and government, the fact is he is a progressive that believes that mainstream America should all be the same.  Notice I said "mainstream" America---which "he" is not a part of.  No, Mr. Ratigan believes in social justice and collectivism for everyone except for him and his elitist media friends.

Bottom line is even though we can all agree that the Federal Reserve and banking system are at the core of our problems, the fact is Ratigan and his socialist/collectivist/progressive friends are largely responsible for the state of our country, as it was their collectivist ideology that drove us in the ditch in the first place.   Socialism, whether for individuals or corporations never turns out well, but that is 100% against what the big government progressives believe at the Huffington Post.  The fact that he even mentioned them as required reading says more about him than anything else that might come out of his progressive, anti-American mouth.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:28 | 1447827 Max Hunter
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LOL can't think of anyone center to right that lists the Huffington Post as their first source of information

Me neither. HP is garbage.  I saw an interview where she personally said she does not allow any "conspiracy" views in her articles. She said they are not news. So, this means she has no desire for objective thinking on the level it needs to go.. I will not open a single article from that so-called "progressive" production.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:28 | 1448029 WSP
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I agree with you, however, the Huffington Post spews out conspiracies all the time.  Most of their content are comprised of outright lies or distortions, solely to promote their collectivist / progressive ideology.   Huffington, who really is not even a U.S. citizen, hates the United States Constitution and everything freedom stands for.  Instead, she is an elitist who believes in a social class system that closes the door on progress for anyone but the elites.  

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:43 | 1447858 LetThemEatRand
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Ordinarily I would say that balance is good (I like reading Drudge just to see the conservative brainwash message of the day, such as the idea that global warming can't exist if it's snowing somewhere in the world), but I have to agree Huffington's site is such a piece of garbage that it's not worth reading regardless of one's political point of view.  

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:11 | 1447762 snowball777
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fucking hypocrite.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:12 | 1447771 colonial
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great for you tyler!  someone in the mainstream media admits to reading a financial anarchist...i read yves as well...

the only thing that i don't understand is why someone like DR doesn't have a quote system running constantly like those of us in the investment world...how can anyone in the biz rely on anything but the fantastic real time feeds of data? 

The problem for dylan is that understanding the raw data flow is far more important than reading about what others are saying who have already seen the data and understand how to discount it

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:12 | 1447773 Clowns on Acid
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self important d bag

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:13 | 1447775 Apocalicious
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Actual people doing actual things like Senators?

 

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:17 | 1447791 snowball777
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Now, now...groveling for lobbyist checks is an "actual thing".

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:28 | 1447826 Apocalicious
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And bankers? And by "businessmen" he probably means guys like Jeff Immelt. You know, a real list of economic producers unlike the rest of non-headline makers. Thank god we have the moneyed elite to make all the decisions for the rest of us! What WOULD we do without those actual people...

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:51 | 1447906 Cpl Hicks
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Good one!

I hate the taste of acid reflux in the morning.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:13 | 1447778 Rossalgondamer
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He eats MickeyD's (huffington) before his bran.

 

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:18 | 1447997 Cognitive Dissonance
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HufPoo is his bran. Cleans out the pipes real good.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:13 | 1447781 mcguire
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'Since when is it my job to be a Democrat or Republican? I recognize that both political parties are bought by six industries: energy, banking, health care, defense, agribusiness and communications.'  

>>> branding of news agencies wasnt an accident.  it was your illuminati masters who made it so, slave!  try a little 9/11 truth on the air, see how far you go ratigan.. you'll be peddling that ram das crap to the rest of the bums on the street, and they will all be nodding their heads, yes, we know, we know... 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:29 | 1447828 Bay of Pigs
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He knows all too well he can only go so far with the truth and that's that. They will fire his ass on the spot if he gets completely out of line, and brand him a "conspiracy nut". 

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:51 | 1447784 Mercury
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If America was not going to pay its debts then the yield on the ten-year bond rate would be 14 percent. It's under 3 percent now. It's a joke. The whole thing's a charade. The debt limit itself is invented.

The "debt limit" may be invented but the amount of debt that can accumulate before someone takes it in the ass does in fact have a limit - and its not set by Mommy and Daddy.

Sold to you @ <3%.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:10 | 1447960 stirners_ghost
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Interest on the national debt is ~10% of revenue, about $400B/year.

Your rulers are presently haggling over $2-4T savings distributed over ten years. The debt will grow $20T during that period. The largest figure under discussion is less than the the interest that will have accrued, which itself is a hardly intimidating figure (at national budget scale).

The drama in DC right now is, as Dylan and the market have correctly surmised, typical Kabuki. They are years from the threshold of possible default.

(I won't be hitting your ask at <%3, and I doubt Mr. Ratigan would either)

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:40 | 1448045 Mercury
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Nonetheless, the problem (as you illustrate) continues to compound as far as the eye can see.

And I wouldn't count on that ~10% figure too far out...

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:15 | 1447785 Trundle
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First pass of NYTimes, Wall Street Journal, Financial Times and Twitter suggest Ratigan is still deeply stuck in the matrix.  That is somewhat disturbing, but what one would expect.  The fact that he doesn't read MSM newspapers because of the format, rather than the content, suggests he is lying to get laid (Manhattan delusional) or he really believes the bullshit.  If he's at least trying to get laid (to get past the inherent DNA collectivism of the typical female Manhattan dweller), he gets points. 

Zero Hedge should be first pass.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:17 | 1447792 Missiondweller
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"so people assume that if you're on MSNBC you're left"

 

No Dylan, its your insane left wing rants that make me assume you're a leftist nut.

 

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:21 | 1447795 Manthong
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"you hear a lot of talk on the debt ceiling about how disastrous it's going to be."

"If America was not going to pay its debts then the yield on the ten-year bond rate would be 14 percent"

Whew! I can rest easy now that I know the "dude" connected with "actual people doing actual things like Senators, bankers or businessmen" is in there anchoring with "infinite potential" to discern the "fucking shit".

Three per cent of a Federal Reserve Note that is worth three per cent of what it was worth just ten decades ago is how much?

ZH is getting some good PR though... Limbaugh, Beck.. Ratigan.. I bet those guys are all tight.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:30 | 1447834 SheepDog-One
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Looks like Limbaugh, Beck, Rattigan, all the controlled opposition trying to get ZH readers to swing to them to give some bouyancy to their sagging audiences.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:50 | 1447902 walküre
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Bingo. Ratigan threw ZH in to elevate his and the other guys' profiles.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:54 | 1447916 walküre
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Just because it's unthinkable that America is not going to pay its debt, doesn't mean it can't and won't happen.

When the FED is the only buyer of US debt with money they created out of thin air, the cost of the paper doesn't matter to the rest of the world. It only matters to Americans and whether they'd like to get raped by the FED for 3% or 14% (as in Ratigan's stupid example).

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:20 | 1447800 Dr. Engali
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There's no question that I'm painted as left because of the network I'm on.

 

I'd say your readings confirm that bias. Looks like the only smart home page that you are reading is Zero Hedge.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:22 | 1447804 shushup
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The fact that ratigan actually reads Huffpo and nake capialism is a great reason to act as if ratigan does not exist.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:24 | 1447809 shushup
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I am discouraged by the fact that these hallowed pages have been disgraced by any article by ratigan

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:34 | 1447842 SheepDog-One
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Slow news day. Or rather, slow news hour, as anytime some other country can blow apart into total collapse, and then be fixed by the next hour.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:24 | 1447811 Seasmoke
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Dylan, you need to stay on top of Fraudclosures and nothing else

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:26 | 1447819 JR
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Our political leaders and our purchased economists, every day, are leveraging their special interests against us. To ignore the information they see, HuffPost, Salon, NPR, the shrill talkers on left and right radio, Drudge, the main stream press and many others… which I visit every day, is a huge mistake. Of course, my anchor is Zero Hedge.  But a national perspective on our rotted culture is critical for our economic and political survival.

Thanks, Ratigan, for your list.  Very helpful.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:31 | 1448036 MsCreant
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Agreed. You need to go all over the place to see how the debates are being framed. Many of the debates are distractions, and give you clues about what they would like to misdirect you away from.

Ratigan is not perfect. Max Keiser is sounding a little too socialist for my tastes, and yet I don't write him off as a warrior in the battle, at all. Why write off Ratgian? We do not all agree, but we do need to listen to each other.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:27 | 1447820 treemagnet
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Who the fuck cares about Dylan whats his name?  Thanks for sharing.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:33 | 1447824 TruthInSunshine
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Ratigan has made some excellent points, and has actually (really) taken criminal like Paulson and Bernanke to task.

In fact, I don't know of a single other Main Stream Media/Cable News Network who has been more receptive to Ron Paul & the Austrian School, nor more diametrically opposed while voicing his opposition loudly to the great heists that were TARP, TALF & QE, nor any of the assorted ass reamings Wall Street and Bernanke have imposed on the American People.

Just because he may read some sources you may not care for, or his views may not mesh 100% with yours or mine, doesn't mean you or I should throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Ratigan's one of the good guys, IMO.

Some key examples of how right he can be:

 

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:41 | 1447869 LetThemEatRand
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Yes, it's amazing they allow him on the air to occasionally speak the truth.  Of course most of his show falls back on the same tired left/right crap, but occasionally he actually calls out the oligarchs and explains what they are doing.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:41 | 1447871 Max Hunter
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Well, he is certainly as close as you can get on MSM. I've even been surprised with some of his rants and thought he may not be on the next day.

We won't fully know if he really is one of the good guys.. As long as he values the opinion of that fat, gay, antiques dealer who contributes absolutely nothing to any conversation he's ever been a part of on that show, I will remain suspicious of him.

Like a commenter said above, let him start talking about a new 9/11 investigation and see what happens.. And YES, it matters, the 9/11 lie is 75% of our problems right now.. If that lie gets exposed, this country changes over-night.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:51 | 1447905 LetThemEatRand
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Re 9/11 lie -- damn straight.   The best we get on the mainstream on the 9/11 issue is Jessi V.   

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:03 | 1448144 Cognitive Dissonance
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The PTB understand all too well that breaking open the 9/11 lie will also break through average Joe's Cognitive Dissonance and fire him up. This is why so much energy is expended to keep the lid on.

You simply do not talk about it other than to sniff around the edges. And you never question the basic central lies. Never.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:48 | 1447875 LetThemEatRand
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Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:45 | 1447882 Max Hunter
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dp

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:51 | 1448357 linrom
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Once again your logic is impeccable. I thought Dylan's explanation of TARP was brilliant. His simple explanation of of how interest rates on US Debt are more important than political rhetoric is illustrative of just how Dylan educates, in a manner that non-financial person can understand.

It is also very important that Dylan gives prominent mention that he reads Huffington Post and Naked Capitalism: two publications that zero in on the most significant aspect of the 21st century capitalism: economic fairness. Yes debt alone can kill an economic system, but it is inequality and wealth accumulation that will kill it. And who is better at understanding it than true liberals and progressives.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:29 | 1447830 frippy
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Ratigan=jock sniffer.

Ram Dass??? lol

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:30 | 1447836 pjvandal
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what i want to know is how the fuck someone like that is a player in main stream media. seriously, how does someone with those values not get taken off the air before they even get on?

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:33 | 1447841 caerus
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More like RamD Ass...

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:34 | 1447844 scratch_and_sniff
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I suppose the self and self identity are a matter of context and nothing else, if you take yourself outside of the context then you dont really exist anymore, and the idea of having infinite potential probably stems from the belief that there are infinitely many contexts' to choose from at will. It sounds like he has a subconscious urge to squirm out of something, maybe he is uncomfortable about something that he cant defeat so he denies the existence of a stable identity and self, for an infinite transitory one. Im the fucking master at that - If all else fails, deny you exist!

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:35 | 1448048 MsCreant
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No thing to scratch, no thing to sniff.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:57 | 1448124 scratch_and_sniff
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couldnt have put it better myself.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:38 | 1448065 caerus
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Nice!  Descartes tried that.  Course he ended up deciding that he cannot deny that he is denying and so...cogito, ergo sum QED

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:07 | 1448156 scratch_and_sniff
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Yes yes yes, but his time was before the context of psychoanalysis, evolutionary psychology, neuroscience etc, so in that sense, he did actually exist because he did not have the tools to prove that he didn’t, that is, in the sense of self he thought to be tangible within his own working context i.e. he could answer his own questions and so retain his illusion of autonomy, this was the healthiest option for his state of mind. Maybe its just a convincing working definition of self that doesn’t exist. For now, for me, the self is dead, and hungry...

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:33 | 1447845 Oh regional Indian
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Rhetorical Rephrasememt;

We tweet of thngs tht hrdly mattr,
With word's that needn't be said,
Can an our's best the erstwhile,
Is the creator really dead?

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/07/08/july-15th-aug-15th-month-long...

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:35 | 1447847 earnulf
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The only reason the 10 year isn't moving is that no one accepts the fact that the government (those people who are "actually" doing something?!?) might not raise the limit in some form or another.

Are these the same folks who are always saying "didn't see that one coming".

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:37 | 1447857 SheepDog-One
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Anyone who needs a staff to fill him in on gossip is a total douchebag.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:43 | 1447879 Franken_Stein
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Amen.

How many people out there are getting money for totally useless work that serves no one, especially not mankind with its pressing problems.

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:46 | 1447889 SheepDog-One
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Entire staffs of people like in ancient times who do nothing but cast rose petals in the path of some olive branch crowned robed idiot. And they all probably got their degrees at home in their bathrobes.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:56 | 1447919 treemagnet
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I sorta wish he'd let us in on his morning ritual ya know....how he prepares, gets his "game face" on, you know, the real meaty stuff we all want to know.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 15:24 | 1448972 V in PA
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90% of Government employees.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:39 | 1447865 nah
Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:03 | 1447948 LetThemEatRand
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Thank you for that.  Now if the security question on ZH is "me + fishsticks = ___", I will know the answer.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:45 | 1447868 Franken_Stein
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Ahmad Wali Karsai, the half-brother of Hamid Karzai, one of the biggest drug dealers in Afghanistan, has apparently been killed by his bodyguard.

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:50 | 1447895 TruthInSunshine
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That's what happens when the SEE I A gives you permission to become one of the world's biggest heroin dealers, helps procure X E to guard your poppy fields, that person thinks they have friends in high places while they count their ill-gotten gains, and then come face to face with that cold, hard bitchslap known as reality.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:47 | 1448090 Use of Weapons
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I made a comment on checking to see who your bodyguards really work for a couple of weeks ago. It's a common way to go.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12111831

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-09/world/sudan.minister.shooting_1_bodyg...

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=3f57c821-fc43-476...

 

 

C'est la vie.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:50 | 1447891 MrBinkeyWhat
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Dear "Tyler",

Thanks for sharing some of Mr. Ratigan's diarrhea here. I don't get exposed to it very much as I would rather go to the proctologist for the anal probe than watch him on Tee Vee.

It is good that ZH is open minded enough to expose this poo.

This way to Huffpo:

<----------------------------

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:50 | 1447898 ebworthen
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I'll give Dylan a thumbs up for reading ZH.

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:50 | 1447901 Everybodys All ...
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Hey Dylan you are a democrat ... MSNBC would not hire you for 10 minutes if you weren't. It might not be your job to be a democrat but if you want to keep your job well you know how it works.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:53 | 1447911 wang
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he needs to suck up to arianna as she swings a big stick in the media business, Dylan is not a Dem he's a Progressive in the order of Matt Taibbi and Simon Johnson - the reason he resonates with some here is his appreciation of the corporatist nature of our government

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:57 | 1447923 Cpl Hicks
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Dylan, you're an asshole.

There, you didn't need to go to twitter.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:57 | 1447924 JW n FL
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Drunk Republicans doing God’s Work, Driving Drunk.

http://www.presstv.ir/ussection/3510802.html

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:58 | 1447928 JW n FL
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You wont see this on CNN or read it a Koch /  Murdoch News Paper!

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:00 | 1447933 JW n FL
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http://www.presstv.ir/ussection/3510802.html

 

Maybe God is pissed about these scumbags?

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:05 | 1447942 SheepDog-One
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A DUI Ohio arrest? Thats it, 'big news'? Wheres the story about Obamas Fast n Furious arms sales to Mexican drug cartels for the purpose of blaming the resulting murders on US gun owners? I dont see it there.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:17 | 1447995 JW n FL
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I hope all Republicans win.. and when shit doesnt change.. will it still be a democrats fault?

 

is it a Republicans fault that the Democrats did NOTHING with control of the house and senate plus the white house?

 

shut up sheep dog and stop fucking lying to people.. republicans or democrats are both lobby whores who do NOTHING but rob from "We the Sheepish Consumers".

 

You sound so fucking stupid.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:31 | 1448039 JW n FL
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by SheepDog-One
on Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:05
#1447942

 

A DUI Ohio arrest? Thats it, 'big news'? Wheres the story about Obamas Fast n Furious arms sales to Mexican drug cartels for the purpose of blaming the resulting murders on US gun owners? I dont see it there.

**********************************************************

 

How many sourced and sited posts have I already POSTED about the ATF? 10? 20? 30? how about if I add twitter in? 100 times?

 

so what you would really like me to do.. is never post anything bad about the Republicans and ONLY post bad stuff about the democrats?

 

You are a fucking sheep, you deserve whats coming.. you brought it on yourself.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:04 | 1447949 JW n FL
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http://www.presstv.ir/ussection/3510802.html

 

Freedom of the Press?

in a Public Meeting?

FAIL!

"DC police arrest journalists for filming event" America the Police State is becoming more and more prevalent. WAKE! UP!! PEOPLE!!!
Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:07 | 1447957 JW n FL
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http://www.presstv.ir/ussection/3510802.html

 

How about People Serving Food to the Poor? NOPE GO TO JAIL!! Florida! Orlando!!

 

"Activists arrested in Orlando for serving meals to poor"
Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:15 | 1447982 JW n FL
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http://www.presstv.ir/ussection/3510802.html

How about the Police.. taking cameras and breaking them.. from Civilians?

 

It is ok! the Police were on the Job so there is NO! recourse! for anyone who had their camera destroyed.

 

"Police break camera of man who filmed Miami shooting"

 

The Police are modern day Pinkertons.. and these stories go on and on and on and fucking on. All that peace, love and talking the hippies have done for the last 40 years has allowed these scumbags to get worse and worse.

 

Cato http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

 

Botched Paramilitary Police Raids: An Epidemic of "Isolated Incidents"

 

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1923125,00.html

 

all credit is due indio007 for sharing this great info!

Raid Map Police Para-Homo-Behavior

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:23 | 1448014 Loan Gunman
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Serious question.  I've always wondered if trolls get paid.

If so, how much?  How does one get paid to go to websites

and post comments?  I have no preference, I'd work

for libs or knuckle draggers or both at the same time.

Might as well accomplish something all the time I spend 

online

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:27 | 1448022 JW n FL
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a troll is someone who offers nothing, shares no real information.. that engages others who do share real information.. in order to disrupt the flow of information being provided.. so you are already a troll, now all you need is to get the Koch Brothers to give you a pay check.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:08 | 1447958 SheepDog-One
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Well I hope people wake up, but I doubt it. Twitter is still abuzz about Casey Anthony, and even smart people are just lulled into coma by a Goldilocks stock market that doesnt reflect any reality, but hey the 401K is looking OK, hell with it.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:14 | 1447986 Loan Gunman
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Oh Wow!!!  Impressive!!!  I'm turning liberal tomorrow.

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:22 | 1448008 JW n FL
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when you read this information.. it equates to you that you are turning liberal?

 

America is a Fucking Police State and you are turning Liberal. Your sarcasm screams ignorance.

 

You know what! I am in favor of America the Police State! Bring it on! the stupidity that goes on the sooner the Sheep will rise up!

 

Austerity! GREAT!!

Police State America! EVEN! BETTER!!

Load the Sheep Up!! Tax the Shit Out of the Middle! BRING IT ON!!

Lets get this party started!

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:47 | 1448088 ebworthen
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That's bad, way too much of that from the Police going on.

Look at the faces of the other officers, they know it's wrong but won't say it.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:24 | 1447998 LetThemEatRand
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Do as we say, not as we do.  D or R, doesn't matter.  They all believe a different set of rules applies.   As an aside, this guy's blood test determined he had Viagra in his system, and a young woman (identity unknown) was in the car with him. He's married of course.  Also a rabid anti-abortion rights family values guy.   He's also probably smoked pot but voted for legislation requiring mandatory harsh criminal penalities for those in possession etc.  

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:25 | 1448019 JW n FL
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do you know why I dont like Pot Heads?

 

they are to stoned to care enough to do anything about the destruction of America! they are stoned and stupid! when I see pot heads with AK's taking out the Pillars of this Lobby Whore Infested Police State! I will re-evaluate my position.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:30 | 1448035 LetThemEatRand
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I guess the whole country must be smokin' pot because the last time I checked, no riots.  The police state marches on, unopposed.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:53 | 1448114 JW n FL
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=4444

 

NORML Report on U.S. Domestic Marijuana Production

 

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 14:09 | 1448498 Hapte
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Nope. People are cowards and pussies for various reasons, blaming pot is just plain wrong. Some people prefer to self-medicate with some good old (and I mean old, this shit has been around for a while, no?) green buds. I can tell niether of you has much exepierence with the plant. You are caught up in the pot=stoners=lazyhippies fallacy. It's all about introspection you can't hide from youself after a good smoke. Anyway, warriors in particular have been using cannabis for centuries.

http://www.mmapunch.com/2007/10/01/eddie-bravo-in-high-times/

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:58 | 1447926 the grateful un...
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I don't get it either, the government run economy is 99% monetary policy, and these guys argue over fiscal reductions. What they should be asking, is why isn't Bernanke creating enough credit to keep the show running? (the quick answer to that is there isn't enough private demand for that credit) (the quick answer to that is, what? Government isn't buying things with the spending it creates. That doesn't ring true.) (the quick answer to that is we can no longer afford new spending, why we can't even afford the spending we already have!)(quick question to that is How did we get from throwing money at the problem a few months ago, to not even being able to meet our obligations today, those debts we incurred before the stimulus? Was the stimulus some sort of Trojan horse, like a computer virus, which destroyed our ability to print money? What happened in between these two events, the stimulus packages, and your proposed massive spending cuts? If you thought it would come to this why would you have agreed to the stimulus packages in the first place. If you thought we were going to end up here, why did you go along with all that spending? I thought you were all fiscally responsible people?) (Look we're spending money and we have no revenue)(Yes but you lobbied effectively for an extension of the tax cuts)(Yes that's because we believe in smaller government)(Then why did you vote for stimulus and bailout programs and a bloated DOD budget, and new wars, new weapons, and black contracts to hide it all from view? You spend a lot of money when you were in control of Congress.) (We have lots of enemies, not the Chinese mind you, but certain non American socialist types, who would turn America into a hippie commune)(So let me get this right, when government is growing you think we should feed that growth with an even more aggressive monetary policy, creating all sorts of bubbles, and when the economy is shrinking we should take money off the table and cut fiscal spending?.) (That's pretty much it)(Oh)

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 11:59 | 1447930 Hatshepsut7
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So please excuse me -- the NYT and FT are NOT "newspapers"in the yellow-press-tradition  regardless of online or print??

 

Looking at the list of reads, you are suffering from regurgitated info overload before you have showered. And when do you reflect / think for yourself?

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:00 | 1447934 zorba THE GREEK
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 Ratigan is just a TV entertainer. He could easily transition to game

 show host. All TV news shows are primarily for entertainment.

 

 

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:00 | 1447935 TruthInSunshine
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I may not agree with everything Ratigan says, but as just one more gem I forgot to post, name one other MSM/Cable News 'personality' who would or has ever broadcast something this direct on The Federal Reserve Scam, a topic absolutely verbotten for all others to even hush-mention on air:

Dylan Ratigan MSNBC exposes Federal Reserve

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:04 | 1447950 Irwin Fletcher
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He does take every opportunity to call out the Fed for being Ponzi artists. In the aftermath of the 2007 collapse, he did say a lot of things that others on CNBC wouldn't say, like hey congressman, why don't you create a clearinghouse for derivatives?

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:09 | 1447965 TruthInSunshine
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I believe so (yes, he actually did).

He's been pretty consistent.

Santelli and Ratigan are the only people in the NBC 'fam' who seem to have serious opinions and have at times let their what appear to be their true opinions (and sometimes very good ones) show.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:02 | 1447939 Irwin Fletcher
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So Dylan's day involves digesting a bunch of mainstream media, constant balckberry-checking, reading ZH, confirming that asset prices reflect reality, phone chats with journalists, filming a show, and then a little spirituality with deep thoughts such as "So who are you? My answer is infinite potential."

Now, I'm nobody, but if I were a journalist reading MSM, I might at least include Al Jazeera, Drudge Report, and RealClearPolitics. If I asserted that both political parties were controlled by six industries, I might read some first-hand literature discussing those non-banking industries: oilprice, medical/biological scientific journals, Jane's, Stratfor, DSLreports, Slashdot, etc.

Dylan's great frustration with cable news involves audience assumptions. One of my great frustrations is when cable news anchors complain about not having an informed audience, while ignoring that playing to this audience is their employer's business model. This audience wants someone to read dumbed-down MSM articles about health care, defense, etc., and dumb them down even further. Infinite potential, bitches.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:22 | 1448009 Missiondweller
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confirming that asset prices reflect reality

 

That one cracked me up.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:03 | 1447946 HITMAN56
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I wanna know which one of the CNBC skanks Ratigan is bangin on the side....

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:09 | 1447963 the grateful un...
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when DR first came out pretty sure Maria had a thing for him. thought at the time was he might be gay. he didn't seem to reciprocate, but that would have been awkward because she was definitely into him, as the kids say.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:09 | 1447967 downrodeo
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So who are you? My answer is infinite potential. I think when you take that identity to your work it puts you in the best possible situation.

 

uhhh, okay. I'm not sure what that was, but I feel as though I am less smart after reading it.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:13 | 1447985 NotApplicable
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Interesting article, and even more interesting reactions. I haven't followed his work much (I never watch 'news'), but occasionally will see an article of his that displays he is starting to get it. For a MSM reporter, this in itself is quite an achievement, for it involves getting out of the safe, comfortable box, and rocking the boat.

While some see his inconsistency as failure, I see it as growth, and I expect him to continue to move further away from the mainstream, as there is no "unseeing what has been seen."

Are all of us really so different? Have most of us not exhausted the possibilities provided by conventional wisdom before moving into "the fringe?"

As I've stated before, I choose the label NotApplicable because I've ran the entire gamut, adopting and abandoning ideologies in an effort to find one that is coherent and complimentary to a peaceful society. Thankfully, (due to the internet) I've found that coherence in the ideas of Menger, Mises, Hayek, Rothbard and countless others.

While my past may be as checkered as Mr. Ratigan's, my future, like his, is one of infinite potential, as is yours. Question is, will we hold onto the past, or recognize it as a step in the direction of a positive future?

I applaud Mr. Ratigan for taking even the smallest baby steps, as they are far above and beyond those who fail to overcome their internal inertia. This is truly the type of change to hope for.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:23 | 1448015 prophet
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"actual people doing actual things like Senators, bankers or businessmen"

"no personal identity ...  identity is your potential"

delusional and confused half-assed dim wit pseudo sharpie

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:33 | 1448028 George Washington
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Dylan,

 Big props for:

-Your open-mindedness

-Your intelligence

- Your tuning into infinite potential, and then focusing it down to the practical level to help wake people up.

Keep up the good work, sir!

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:29 | 1448030 Wynn
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You dickheads illustrate perfectly why our world is fucked beyond any chance of repair.

Until the split between self and Self is reconciled, you will get what you deserve.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:30 | 1448033 pods
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I guess if I had cable I might know who this guy is?

pods

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:31 | 1448038 digalert
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Ooh, Dylan reads ZH?

"I'm not going to host a [bleep]ing TV show that consists of reading [bleep]ing e-mails to [bleep]ing traders," shouted Ratigan." ?

Anyone fired from CNBS gets a thumbs up...Macke?

 

 

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:35 | 1448047 Corn1945
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"If America was not going to pay its debts then the yield on the ten-year bond rate would be 14 percent. It's under 3 percent now."

Greece had really low interest rates at one point also.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:35 | 1448053 lookma
Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:38 | 1448061 mark mchugh
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See how much you can learn in just six paragraphs?

I learned two things:

  1. Dylan's got a book coming out!
  2. It won't be worth reading.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:47 | 1448087 AgShaman
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Hahaha....

"On the phone, I make calls to primary sources: actual people doing actual things like Senators, bankers, or businessmen."

DR is a suck ass. He's probably got knee pads in his closet...like pro athletes have shoes.

He perfected his apologizer craft when he worked for Bloomberg. Trust him as far as you can throw him.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:25 | 1448099 Use of Weapons
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Who reads newsprint these days?

Well, who watches T.V. either?

 

Way to get hoisted by your own petard there newbie.

 

 

p.s.

 

What is this "Huffington post"?!? I thought it was like Gawker, a place where countless monkey bloggers added their insequential voices to the babble of the spectacle, and then the wicked witch came and sold them all out while cackling? Basically an American Idle/Idol sweat shop for bored housewives?

It isn't where the wild things are, that's for sure.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 12:50 | 1448102 Gene
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Walks like a lib, talks like a lib, works for libs,

must be a lib.

Tue, 07/12/2011 - 13:06 | 1448155 George Washington
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There is a scripted, psuedo-war between Dems and Repubs, liberals and conservatives which is in reality a false divide-and-conquer dog-and-pony show created by the powers that be to keep the American people divided and distracted. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.

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