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Guest Post: Economic Consequences Of The “New World Order”

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Economic Consequences Of The “New World Order

A common misconception among less aware segments of the American
populace is that the phrase “New World Order” was concocted by attention
seeking “conspiracy theorists” in dank basement apartments and sinister
mountain shacks across the country. In reality, anti-globalists and
Constitutionalists had nothing to do with the term’s creation (and most
of us have decent digs, too). The truth is that mumblings of a “New
World Order” have been floating around various elitist circles for
decades, and every once in a while, those mumblings are publicized in
the mainstream media. Globalists created the warped ideal; we just
point out that it exists. Lately, we haven’t had to try very hard…

As most readers here are probably already privy to, elitist spokesman
George Soros (who for some reason reminds me of Baron Harkonnen from
the movie ‘Dune’) recently let spill all kinds of NWO gossip in a candid
interview with the Financial Times. If you have not seen it yet, or
you believe only kooks talk about the New World Order, I suggest you
watch the below interview twice for good measure:

What is most interesting about this interview is Soros’ focus on the
fate of the dollar in the NWO. He openly confirms nearly everything I
and many others have been warning about for the past three to four years
in the span of only ten minutes! Why would Soros make such admissions?
Well, I suspect that some elites believe that they should not have to
hide their pet project for a “new order” from us lowly serfs, while
others perhaps have been given the green light to start selling the
masses on the supposed benefits of greater centralization. Soros
literally tries to paint the collapse of America as “necessary”, and the
devolution of the dollar as “healthy”, though I doubt that many people
will be swayed by his charms. It’s hard to trust a guy that leaves a
slime trail…

While Soros may not be the best used car salesman on the lemon lot,
there are plenty of establishment media lackeys and fraudulent pundits
that do have a knack for refining globalist talking points and making
them more palatable to the public. What alternative economic analysts
are now discovering is that there are actually two economies; the one
that the MSM and the government presents, and the one we all actually
live in. The year of 2010 was highly representative of this strange
developing duality. So many malfunctions in terms of employment, debt,
inflation, and bonds (especially municipals), and yet, so much “good
news” pouring out of the networks. This is rather similar to the media
frenzy just before the final market plunge of the Great Depression;
government reports and mainstream news were overwhelmingly positive,
right before the entire system took its last flaming nose dive into the
gutter and stayed there for a decade.

If we are to take anything from the recent Soros interview, it would
be that the globalists are closing in on their target for the
implementation of their new world order, or “new economic order”, or
whatever interchangeable label they happen to be using at the moment.
But what does this mean for the rest of us? When George Bush Sr., Bill
Clinton, Barack Obama, Henry Kissinger, Nicolas Sarkozy, Vladimir Putin,
Gordon Brown, and so many others mention their desire for a “New World
Order”, what exactly are they referring to? In terms of the economy,
how will this elitist philosophy change our lives, and our nation? To
know our destination, we must first examine the path we are currently
on. What have been the results of globalism and centralization so far?
What is the most likely next step? Let’s review where the elites have
led us up until now, and where they have expressly proclaimed they would
like to take us in the future…

Harmonization: The Economic Sucker Punch

“Harmonization” is a very pleasant sounding term for a very insidious
financial practice, and it is also something we will be hearing a lot
about if the NWO design is allowed to continue. In order to understand
what economic harmonization entails, one should research the mechanics
and purpose behind monopolies. Monopolies are formed first and foremost
to remove a very particular free-market factor; competition.
Competition allows for the organic growth of markets by relying on the
general populace to decide which business and financial models work
best. Those models that do not pass the social test are ignored and
allowed to die away, while those that pass are supported by the public
and allowed to carry on. This natural order of commerce is supplanted
when the largest suppliers (businesses or countries) form unions, fix
prices, and squeeze out smaller entrepreneurs before they find an
opportunity to present a superior idea or business model. By removing
competition, monopolies take away the citizen’s ability to choose, or to
even participate in the economy in any capacity beyond the role of
mindless consumer.

Global harmonization works in a similar way, except in this case the
monopoly is not over a specific product or resource, but the resources
of entire continents. Competition among nations is squashed. As in the
European Union, more successful countries are forced through unilateral
trade agreements to transfer their wealth to faltering nations. Not
only this, but the economic policies which once made them more
competitive are scrapped and replaced with policies that deliberately
stunt national growth. Decisions on what kind of commerce works best
are no longer made by the citizenry, and are instead centralized into
the hands of a select few. Any state that resists or strives for
sovereignty is branded irresponsible, or even dangerous; a threat to the
so called “balance”.

While globalists like Soros maintain that there are long term
benefits to harmonization, including a better standard of living for
everyone, in effect, harmonization only seems to make all countries
equally poor.

IMF and World Bank lackeys love to bring up the plight of Africa when
peddling harmonization and certainly African countries would benefit
temporarily by siphoning capital from richer nations, but ultimately, it
is the IMF, World Bank, and the UN that ravaged Africa in the first
place with their loan sharking, resource theft, and attempts to
interfere with African industrialization in the name of unsupported
global warming arguments. (Hey, as soon as NASA or the Climate Research
Unit in East Anglia makes the source data for their experiments
available to the public instead of copping out and claiming national
security privileges, I’m perfectly willing to give them a fair shake.)
In the FT interview, Soros boasts about IMF allocations of SDR’s to
needy African countries, as if they do it out of the kindness of their
hearts. Anyone who has studied the history of the IMF knows that they
do not do charity.

In the end, dirt poor nations might progress, but never enough to
actually prosper, and all at the cost of finding themselves beholden to
the IMF. This is the essence of the New World Order. This is the dark
side that elitists never openly delve into; total centralization, total
poverty, total control, no other options…

Middle-Class Beheaded

In a centralized global economy, financially secure classes of common
people become a problem. The less the masses have to worry about
everyday survival, the more time they have to question the system’s
validity, or its leadership. Therefore, the globalist hierarchy
benefits by removing such subsections of the population like the
middle-class altogether. This process has already commenced in the
midst of the engineered credit crisis, as well as the continued
devaluation of the dollar that Soros speaks of so fondly.

Private wages fell to historic lows at the beginning of 2010:

Prices on essential goods and energy are now inflating, despite falling demand:

The U.S. housing market lost $1.05 trillion in value in 2009, $1.75
trillion 2010, and is expected to lose $9 trillion before it bottoms:

Real unemployment remains at a relentless 20%, while welfare benefits
have been extended up to 99 weeks. Such a large portion of Americans
have remained jobless for so long, that the Bureau of Labor Statistics
has now increased the upper limit of how long someone can be listed as
jobless from two years, to five years:

As forced globalization continues, “lucky” countries will see a
complete disintegration of private home ownership, two working parents
in every family, wage reductions to counter low demand, and price spikes
in food and energy. In places like China with a long history of wage
slavery, this is actually a step up! So it all evens out according to
George Soros. Unfortunately, the U.S. is more likely to see
hyperinflation, rather than a mere reduction in our standard of living.
Currency destruction would decimate the middle-class in America. Soros
hints at this probable future, but then glosses over it as a “painful
but needed” change.

One question that no interviewer seems to put to these parasites is,
who really “needs” the New World Order? Who benefits from its
proliferation? Certainly not the middle-class, and certainly not the
poor. So, who’s left to reap the spoils? Ask Soros. He knows…

Dollar On The Highway To Hell

Not to harp about the past, but in 2007/2008, stating that China was
going to drop the dollar and dump Treasuries while converting to a
consumer based economy causing the greenback to lose its world reserve
status while the IMF introduced SDR’s as the new global currency did not
exactly win me any respect in financial circles. I still get arguments
from devout deflationists and random green-shoots proponents on
occasion. Now, here’s George Soros TELLING YOU, for the most part, what
is going to happen to the dollar, and sounding a lot like Neithercorp.
It’s enough to give me the heebie jeebies.

Soros mentions the pending bilateral trade agreements being used by
China to rout the dollar in Brazil and Argentina, but for some reason
fails to point out Russia’s agreement to abandon the Greenback. He also
fails to mention China’s numerous interest rate hikes or increased bank
allocations which have utterly failed to stem inflation, leaving the
government with only one other option; dump U.S Treasuries, allowing the
Yuan to quickly appreciate giving Chinese consumers greater buying
power to compete with rising prices. All that’s left is for our
Treasury Dept. to finally release that delayed report accusing China of
currency manipulation. Retaliation ensues, and down goes the dollar.

It’s not a question of IF this will happen, but WHEN? How long can
the dollar truly hold out while interest rates remain at near zero, the
private Federal Reserve continues its QE2 madness, and our national debt
continues to grow beyond all imagining? Something has to give, and
that something will be the rest of the world’s patience with the dollar.

Stall tactics are beginning to lose their effect. Rumors yesterday
of a possible Fed rate hike did cause quite a stir, and even hit
commodities, but frankly, I’ll believe that when I see it. A meaningful
rate hike would make the Fed’s quantitative easing programs pretty
difficult to pursue and knock the wind out of the Dow, considering the
only thing propping up the whole farce is the constant flow of cheap
fiat. When the central bankers turn to interest rate gossip to keep
investors smitten with the dollar, it might be time to question whether
or not foreign banks may be preparing for a policy change concerning
U.S. Treasuries soon. This is, of course, all by design.

The bottom line is that the dollar has no place in the NWO. Soros
admits it. Most other globalists have openly demanded it. I think in
this case, they aren’t just feeding us propaganda.

Global Currency, Global Government, No More Fairytales

With all the talk in the MSM of global currency lately, I still have
yet to see a viable argument for its usefulness. Just as with
globalism, no real debate is pursued on global currency, only the
presumption that such a step is “inevitable”. Sorry, but globalism is
not inevitable, and neither is the rise of Special Drawing Rights
(SDR’s). These are economic tools and methods which are enacted by a
relatively small group of men. They are not universal laws of physics
handed down by the gods.

A global currency changes nothing in terms of the problems already
associated with our current collapse. It definitely doesn’t make
anything better. While the IMF does claim to have ample gold reserves
to back the SDR, almost every new paper currency starts out backed by
PM’s or some other resource. The problem is that every currency under
the control of central bankers and not the people ends up losing all
tangible backing and becomes yet another fiat prison. The only purpose
behind a global currency would be to streamline the centralization
process; to perpetuate the psychology of globalism in the masses, making
the construction of global government easier to introduce.

Would global government be as wondrous and as Utopian as it is always
presented? Will we finally get our Star Trek uniforms and flying cars?
Not a chance. Global governance will not be Utopia; not under men
like Soros, and certainly not under the IMF. The promise of paradise
has always been used to make people do stupid and horrible things, from
the Assasseens of Iran spoken of by Marco Polo, to the Russian
communist disaster of Lenin and Stalin, and beyond. Blind collectivism
and feudalism has never led to peace, prosperity, wisdom, or spaceships
propelled by dilithium crystals. What it HAS led to, consistently, is
death, destruction, mayhem, and sometimes the loss of entire chapters of
human knowledge. It leads not to enlightenment, but to the dark ages.

Once a system like this is instituted, its hold over younger
generations is vicious. We have all grown up in the midst of the
globalist experiment, and while many of us have broken free mentally, we
still have never experienced life without the constant poison of
elitist politics and prattle. Imagine a colonialist from the American
Revolution visiting our time and witnessing all the freedoms, cultural
and economic, that were stolen away from us before we were ever born.
They would shriek in absolute horror and run for their musket!

There is a certain innocence and a certain joy inherent in true
freedom, not just freedom of the mind as we have so far settled for
today, but freedom of daily life. To live without someone always out to
dominate you or your family; that is something I would like one day to
witness, or at the very least make possible for tomorrow’s Americans.
If the NWO is not confronted and dismantled, who knows how long it will
be before another common man thrives free.

Breaking The Circle, Starting Anew

Stopping the advancement of the New World Order, at least in terms of
economics, does not require a “magic bullet” scheme, a busload of
lawyers, or even an audit of the Federal Reserve (though one would be
nice). What it does require, is an alternative. Do most Americans
participate in the corrupt establishment system because they like it?
No. They participate because they feel there are no other viable
options, and since very few government officials seem to be coming
forward with said options, there is nothing to do but build a better
option for ourselves.

This means average people starting their own alternative economies in
their own communities based on trade, barter, and sound money (precious
metals), in conjunction with fiat until the bottom finally falls out of
the dollar. It means cutting down the weekly trips to Walmart and
buying as many goods as you can from local Liberty Movement based
providers. It means setting up statewide networks of micro-industries,
farm and garden co-ops, and gold and silver distributors, and turning
away from the NWO completely. It means a return to true free markets
owned and operated by the people, without any interference from
corporations or government.

If they want a centralized economy, then we decentralize the economy.
If they want to break up legitimate community, then we support
legitimate community. If they want to break down 10th Amendment rights,
then we support the Constitutional imperative of the states to
determine their own internal matters. If they want us to rely solely on
the dollar, then we convert our dollars to gold and silver, and trade
with each other. Neithercorp is now working on a project with
Oathkeepers which we believe will make these alternatives a reality.

If anything is going to turn for the better, ever, that change is
going to start with regular people. There is no other way around it.
When the colonies of the American Revolution rebelled against the
British Empire, they did so first by dumping the corrupt British
economic system, and setting up their own free markets. They did not
just declare independence; they took concrete actions which removed
their dependency on their enemy. They forced the British to choose;
accept that the colonies had their own system and move on, or attack the
colonies, try to force them to conform, and expose British tyranny for
all the world to see. The British chose the latter, bit off more than
they could chew, and the rest is history. The point is that the
colonists created a win-win scenario. We must do the same.

Some might claim that times have changed and circumstances are
different, but this is irrelevant. The concept still applies, and is
actually in use by the Liberty Movement already. The alternative media
is a perfect example of how offering a better option to the public can
destroy a controlled mainstream system, like that of the MSM. Their
numbers are plummeting, while ours are skyrocketing. They are becoming
obsolete, while we become more necessary. And all we had to do was
offer the truth, and free participation. Imagine that…

As Soros points out in the FT interview, now is the time to act. We
know what the globalists plan to do to our currency and our economy, so
why wait around for the leaky ship to sink when we could be using that
time to build a better boat? Now, we must act. We must set the pace.
We must take matters into our own hands, before someone else makes the
important decisions for us. We must determine our own destinies. There
is precious little left to lose.


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Wed, 01/05/2011 - 06:52 | 848688 cossack55
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I'm rather fond of the "Old World Order" of confusion, wars, chaos, revolutions, coup d'etet, OSS, all the fun stuff.  You want utopia, move to California. 

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:37 | 848760 TBT or not TBT
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Is the present day central valley of California utopian?   The third world moved there and is very unemployed, along with a lot of the natives.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:12 | 848816 malikai
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Which natives are you referring to? The Paiute and Yuki tribes, or the iphone and ipad tribes? It seems to me that historically speaking, the natives always get the axe, or in my case, the machete.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:47 | 848837 Voluntary Exchange
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This article has very good advice.  What ever a predator parasite advocates: do the opposite.  No SDRs, a free market in money.

No centralization of authority: a free market in security and adjudication services (end the states of this world and regain your freedom). The solution to statism is not one monopoly state, it is the end of statism.




Wed, 01/05/2011 - 10:54 | 849125 malikai
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VE. You are talking to a fellow Libertarian. One with a sometimes disturbing sense of humor/sarcastic nature. :)

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 00:59 | 851650 halvord
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. Most of Cali is several generations native, and some of us whites are too. I'm 6th generation, pre Gold-Rush, which is damn rare for a Pink.

The Midwest Third World came here in the '30s and got too lazy to work in the fields. Tom Joad also moved to Orange County- now there is a cultural dystopia.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:00 | 848795 rapier
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The business corporation is the acendent organizing force now, superceding government.  Not toally of course. Sometimes partnering and sometimes co opting.  Will it be better than the old order?  Let's hope so. Since 95% of the readers here hate government it would be best to understand the new order, join it, meaning be a good company man and set aside all those childish notions of the primacy of the individual.  Say hello to the new boss.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 10:52 | 849054 Voluntary Exchange
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If you study the IMF-Sorros method you will realise that your view of corporatism as  the new ascendant must consider the reality that monopolist globalist corporations need some kind of monopoly of force and adjudication  (the state- or the proposed "super-state") so that they can prevent a true free market and the competition and proper market clearing prices for wages and raw materials that would occur under it . They cannot compete in a truly free market. 


And of course the "corporations" are merely the management vehicles used by those who have already bootstrapped almost infinite past theft through fiat-currency so they can efficiently manage their "livestock" (the human wage slave). Look carefully at the entities that control most of the stock of these major corporations. The key to the globalist wet-dream is the globalist currency SDR, enforced by a global monopoly of force capable of destroying anyone who would dare to choose to live by free exchange.  Let's not go there. It isn't all that new, just a different variation on the slavery theme.  The laggards in our species ought to grow out of the practise of lying, stealing and killing to get what they want, and rely on voluntary exchanges in a free market.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 14:30 | 849739 Things that go bump
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This new world order thing was postulated by science fiction writers I read as a child in the 50s.  However, if the theory of peak oil holds water, and a lot of people who seem to know what they are talking about believe it does, the world is about to become a much bigger and far less manageable place.  I think I read somewhere that the military believes it can make it 20 years.  The rest of us not so much.  We'll really be feeling the pinch in 5.   I don't think even our own federal government (may it shrivel and die) will be able to effect the level of control it now enjoys on this continent.  I don't see how a world government in its infancy can flourish without the cheap energy oil affords.  

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 10:01 | 848942 knukles
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Only folk from outside the Winter Home of the Great Satan think it's a utopia. 

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:05 | 848691 Alcoholic Nativ...
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I'm pro One World Government.  Suck it haters, bring it on!

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:45 | 848709 Mercury
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Well you better start dividing your mother's basement up into different economic zones in preparation for the big day!  Mr. Soros is going to want to see some experience on that CV.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:58 | 848791 Alcoholic Nativ...
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My mothers basement! How origional!  Where in the world did you come up with that one! Oh and yes of course I worship Mr. Soros!  Thank you for asking.


Shut up you self flagellating teatard clown. 

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:14 | 848817 malikai
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Self flagellating.. Really, is there anything wrong with that?

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:12 | 848692 total nonsense
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I  hope your joking....

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:12 | 848693 Azannoth
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"The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world dominion by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order the "children of Israel" will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled, in which is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands."

--Baruch Levy, Letter to Karl Marx, 'La Revue de Paris', p.574, June 1, 1928

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:30 | 848751 anony
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Gotta admit for such a small population of them globally they sure have managed to oligopolize every important government, financial institution, and entertainment venue in the world.

Someone is looking to make certain that they gather to themselves all the meaningful power in the world.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:19 | 848826 tamboo
Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:30 | 848699 Mercury
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The Flemish and French in Belgium, The world capital of international bureaucratic power-wanking, can barely get along with each other to an extent necessary to share one country (and will probably go their separate ways) but the whole world is going to unite under one government? 

Never going to happen.


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:07 | 848733 Azannoth
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Those little disputes will be swept aside by the International powers, It does not matter whether you're German or French, whether you like the Greeks or the Portuguese, under 1 World Government(the UN or EU or North American Union) you won't have a choice, because it is a political union not a union of the people

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:18 | 848812 Mercury
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Throughout history ethnic and cultural differences have amounted to a whole lot more than "little disputes" in terms of determining political outcomes...and unless human nature changes tomorrow, they always will.

You'll notice that despite all the bellyaching and celebration about "Diversity" by it's denizens (who are likely pro-international governance as well) the Upper West Side remains mosque-free.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:08 | 848734 Ace Ventura
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I don't think the idea is for the whole world to 'unite' voluntarily. Rather, more like herded into a global cattle-pen under one global politburo.

How one group of proles gets along with another is irrelevant in the eyes of the elite.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 12:25 | 849411 NotApplicable
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Sad thing is, the sheeple will voluntarily go into the pen (concentration camp) as it will provide the only food and shelter they can obtain without stealing.

All herds are assembled for slaughter. This time will be no different.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:24 | 848744 Sudden Debt
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and even in flanders you have different regions that can't get along. :)


Look at the once great empires. They became great, greater, massive and once they got massive they broke down faster then "WE WANT CHANGE".

Take Russia for example: I don't even know how many countries have split from it since the USSR fell.

England: They once dominated half the world

Spain: Same as England

France, Holland, Germany... they all failed.

And the latest: America. They are now everywhere, but for how long?


People will fight for their identity!


Just look at big international firms! They constantly strugle to create 1 identity and get their staff to follow 1 path. And rarely it works.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:28 | 848749 Azannoth
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You're right, dictatorships only work on a small scale, North Korea, Zimbabwe, Myanmar and the half life of an empire is roughly 100 years at best but still the USSR survived for 3 generations so even though 100 years might not seem much it's a lot for 1 person

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:02 | 848797 Salinger
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and that Roman empire myth was just that, imagine dominating a large chunk of the known world for a few hundred years without the benefit of technology

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:47 | 848909 Terminus C
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The Romans knew about, traded with, and had diplomatic delegations in India and China. They also "knew" there were lands in southern Africa.

They did not dominate their "known" world, just one part of it.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:09 | 848806 Oh regional Indian
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Mercury, It's already happened.

The UN security council is the most power Military Body in the world. Keeping the "Peace" American style is really in fashion at the UN right now.

Anyways, UN+BIS+Vatican...

very plausible, eh? Military and Politics+Finance+Religion.

Throw in WB and IMF and EU parliament and NAU as enforcers. 

India, looks bright and shiny but is rotten at the core now. Push-over.

In fact, it is being brought out in the open more and more everyday. 

Novus ordo seclorum (Latin for "New Order of the Ages") appears on the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States, first designed in 1782...


Novus ordo seclorum people!


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:28 | 848700 absinthejo
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When you come across peak oil literature and data, you notice one thing that's irrefutable. We're on a crash course with nature. It's there, it's real. But the push against global warming/climate change always seemed dubious. I can't believe that people like Soros, Rockefeller, Rotschild don't know what's coming. Putting some conspiratorial pieces together, [Georgia Guidestones, Aaron Russo's interview, Rockefeller own confession and so on...] it became clear that the elite wants the economy to crash against the wall. I don't want to overestimate their intelligence but if I wanted a new world order [defined by the Georgia Guidestones] with total control, I would not used my influence to stop the overconsuming, overspending, population overshoot. Let everything crash and pick up the pieces to have a world according to my own views. Contrary to popular belief, Limits to Growth is sound scientifically. And this is why they always win. Neo-feudalism is underway.


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:51 | 848783 YHC-FTSE
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Hmm. I think many on the boards believe that neo-feudalism is already here, whilst others contend that feudalism never went away except for very short instances of human history. 


My own experiences tell me that human nature divides us into two neat groups: Those who want to lead and those who want to be led. Extrapolate that in any direction, and you have various forms of social structure that mimic feudalism in every way but in name. Conversely, leaderless anarchy, even ones based on enlightened self interest is the least desirable state because it is so fleeting and prone to the weaknesses in our own nature to climb to the top and tell others what to do. 


So why hasn't mob rule worked? Why has democracy failed so badly to place good people in positions of power where they might do the most good? Why, for fuck sake, does the proven "Wisdom of Crowds" theory fall flat when applied to politics? First, in most democracies, it's not quite mob rule and disenfranchisement is quite common. Second, election systems are wide open to abuse and manipulation - particularly in the USA with its ridiculous campaign funding fiascos. Third, wisdom of crowds does not work when 95% of the people who vote are as far away from wisdom as Paris Hilton is away from virginity. 


That last one is the most important, imo, to move away from feudalism that is inherent human nature. Only the top 5% of the population have higher degrees in education, an even smaller % in subjects that are useful. Plainly, if the normalized distribution of the population places the vast majority in the stupid sector of the bell curve, then what you will always have are stupid results, with opportunities for shadowy special interest groups to defraud, subjugate, and oppress the public. The only way for democracies to work properly is for individuals and the society at large to place education at the forefront - to reverse the current trend and make 95% of the populace smart, well-informed, thinking individuals. We might then finally begin to get a semblance of sanity in the way we live. In other words, make everyone smarter if you want to live in Utopia. :)

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:11 | 848810 margaris
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I do not want to lead or to be led.

I shit on this dualistic only system. I show the whole world my finger and live my own life.

It works!

Humanity is in a neverending evolutionary process, as is all nature.

Why divide us in leading people and being-led people?

There is so much more to do then just "eat or be eaten".

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:22 | 848829 YHC-FTSE
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+1. It's frustrating to want a better way when all around others chase their basest instincts. 

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 12:29 | 849423 NotApplicable
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As Ernie Hancock says, "There are two types of people, those who want to be left alone, and those who won't leave them alone." (with both the "leaders" and the "followers" in the second group).

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:17 | 848824 Oh regional Indian
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YHC, good points all.

In my opinion, the only things that worked well for people, in terms of governance instead of rule were the reigns of the philosopher Kings. Every other system has proven a failure and demonocracy is of course the worst of them all.

Demonocracy imposes the false burden of equality and it's twin, expectation, all too evenly on society while providing vastly different environments for all these "equal" people to grow and be educated etc.

The same damage was done selling this fictitious equality to women as a part of the Feminist movement.

The premise is patently false and has been refined into a new-age political-correctness farce.

We are not equal in the linear ways we have been forced to believe and we are not un-equal at all, but that is something one needs to LIVE not just be-Lieve.


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:44 | 848901 YHC-FTSE
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I must confess that I'm unfamiliar with the historical concept of philosopher kings, but it does sound fascinating enough to warrant further reading on my part, thanks.


Oh, and I agree with you wholeheartedly about the false burden of equality, and its twin, expectation. We're clearly not created equal. On ZH, of all places, we're all familiar with the lies that tell us we're all going to be millionaires, models, movie stars, and sports heroes. :). I am, however, fervent in my belief of lifting barriers to self-improvement. I.E. I advocate equal rights (Opportunities) and reject disenfranchisement. No person should ever be barred from improving their lot in life because of the colour of their skin, beliefs, or their lack of a penis. That's not political correctness but something I have always deeply felt within my own sense of ethos & justice. You remind me of a good friend of mine.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 11:42 | 849271 ExistentialSkeptic
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I would never describe my sex as "lack of a penis" -- a strange male perspective I suppose.

Females have something (a womb) -- they don't "lack" something.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 13:58 | 849767 YHC-FTSE
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Sorry, I ran out of words to phrase the unfair advantage of historical male domination. Quite right. Women, most women imo, do not lack anything. Especially when I'm her husband. :)

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 11:46 | 849280 velobabe
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never thought of it that way. lack of a penis. hell, i am glad i don't have a penis, come to think of it. what a burden†

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:32 | 848862 Trader7
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YHC-FTSE: You present a well written and logical premise. The solution only seems dimly possible. I've noticed a trend in education over the years to merely transfer a skillset for a particular job rather than produce critical thinkers.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:57 | 848931 YHC-FTSE
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Thanks mate. I'm almost being facetious when I wish everyone can just take a smart pill and grow a few more useful connections in their empty heads. :) Defining "smart", is in itself a rather more subjective thing than one likes to admit. :)


I quite agree the solution seems dimly possible, but easily fixed at the point of sale, as it were. It's not unheard of to emphasise the methodology of education rather than the subject of a skillset. As with many things, the way that we do something is sometimes more important than what we do. Probably why I loved the natural sciences so much in my youth.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 11:12 | 849182 MachoMan
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The difference between traditional feudalism and neo feudalism is the degree of awareness of its victims, largely due to the expansion of our understanding of phsychology and, thus, our ability to manipulate people.  In short, through neo feudalism's evolution, we have created an enslaved society that is either unaware of their precarious situation or have been conditioned incredibly well to ignore it.  It really is a masterpiece...  but, given the human condition's teeter totter between the poles of capitalism and communism, of individual versus collective bargaining, we eventually go the other way (sometimes violently when the asshole on the other end rises us in the air and then bails from his side, in the present case representing galt's gulch so to speak).

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 13:52 | 849734 YHC-FTSE
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Nicely put.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:45 | 848703 RemiG2010
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World's oil reserves 2011: 1,243 bbl minus the nonexistent reserves the Saudis and others lie about 

World's oil reserves 2050: ??????? 

World's Population 2011: 7 Billion

World's Population 2050: 9 Billion

US Baby-boomers, other pensionaries 2011: over 60 million

US Social Security, Medicade, Medicare 2050: bankrupt for over ten years, technically broke since 2015 


What about finite clean water, clean air, good quality cetera … et cetera:


So, what is ZH counterproposal?


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:49 | 848716 absinthejo
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That was my point with the deliberate conspiracy theory angle regarding peak resources. We're just screwed... No boogey-man in the closet.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:59 | 848726 AnAnonymous
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You are lining up figures and what?

The world is organized to support consumption on this side of the world.

What do you care what the other side consumes? Their consumption is only there to make ours bigger.  It's been a while most of the world population no longer compete with us on the resources and are only helpers to our consumption.

The US main legacy to consumption is ways to consume more and faster. 9 billions people on Earth? How many would have adopted the US mindset? That is the crucial question.

Stop behaving  like every one on Earth was modelled on the US gluton type.

Provide quality propaganda. Not worthless drivel that reads like a guy who participated to a game and is not whining because he is on the losing side.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 14:54 | 849944 Things that go bump
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It is just as possible that world population 2050:  500 Million.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:40 | 848705 zedder
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A long bow is been drawn in this article and and the pejorative term "elites" used to undermine alternative equally valid opinions. The author needs to be more neutral in his language if he wishes to mask his bias. I doubt that George Soros has any more power than any other commentator, he is unelected and the best he can do is throw around maybe a billion or two within trillion dollar markets.  So what!

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:48 | 848712 RemiG2010
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I always thought, the only elites, "true elites" were on ZH?! ;)

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:38 | 848762 Azannoth
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I always thought, the elites where the hard to kill monsters in video games :)

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:46 | 848773 TBT or not TBT
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Wrong.  George is a major financier of politicians, lobbies, and propaganda groups.    He isn't just buying and selling in the market and talking about markets.   He is paying to undermine the US Constitution itself.  Yeah.   That's a serious goal of his.    So much for pledges of allegiance, oaths, and standard definitions of treason I guess...but only for the time being let's hope.    Pelosi-Obama-Reid are incidentally in the same basket, with their mountains of unconstitutional legislation and federal bureacratic overreaching.   All four are theives, organizing the theft of your natural rights and property.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:02 | 848799 Salinger
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so there's more to his former partner's relocation to Singapore a few years back?

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 12:09 | 849361 living on the edge
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so there's more to his former partner's relocation to Singapore a few years back?

And another former partner telling a friend of mine in Pittsburgh to buy gold. Go figure. Kondratieff was right and there is no putting out the fires burning in the fraudulent credit markets. These pitiful men like Soros are hoping for a happy landing under some guise of a NWO. Too late for that.

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Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:38 | 848882 Trader7
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The ability to wield billions is not power? The man has crashed the currencies of other countries before, and laughs about it as sport. The man funds political systems that make the laws of the land.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:42 | 848707 kita27
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Somebody please tell me WTF was wrong with this interview. Did he not speak the truth? The current world order is fucked and has been since the US hijacked it after the soviet union collapsed.

The world order should reflect the power balance of the world and im afraid it is no longer US unilateralism as our fucked up neo liberal institutions such as the IMF, WTO, and World Bank represent. Therefore we need a new world order to replace the fragile one that has been in place the last 20 years. Yes the system has broken down, and yes most seem to have not yet realised.

The Chinese will not back a US dominated system that does not reflect their increased status,influence and power. We thus need a new world order.    i dont know WTF half the conspiracy nutters out their think a 'new world order' is but it sure isnt doing their mental health any good.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:50 | 848718 Alex Zhyk
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Second that.

With such huge disproportions for instance in labor costs between developed world and third-world countries how one can expect other than decrease of wealth of Western economies?  That whole “globalization” process was nothing more than a way of expanding bubble overseas and inventing new ways of postponing to deal with the issues that where long  on the table in US and Europe.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:51 | 848720 AnAnonymous
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Somebody please tell me WTF was wrong with this interview. Did he not speak the truth? The current world order is fucked and has been since the US hijacked it after the soviet union collapsed.


It is not fucked for the US. The current world order is the US world order, a world totally organized to support the US, whose main project is consume faster and faster the Earth. The US offers nothing else.

So what? It is rather normal that US citizens fight day and night to maintain an order that is so favourable to them.


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 18:50 | 850753 AchtungAffen
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I guess it's also normal too for them to fight day and night for an order that will render them (and the rest of the world) extinct. But hey, isn't the US being dominated by Suicide Bankers too? Like father, like son.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:26 | 848748 anony
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The bleating of the sheep is the last sound before they are rendered extinct.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 15:56 | 850115 Lord Koos
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Typical ZeroHedge, a rational comment gets junked.  

To avoid massive global instability, it was necessary that the expectations (and income) of the US population be reset to be closer to the rest of the world's workers.  It was obviously unsustainable that 20% of the world's population could squander 80% of the world's resources. Even with the largest military budget on the planet, the US empire finally was over-extended. What looks like "a new world order" is merely the end of US dominance.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:47 | 848710 Tic tock
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The first question, to my mind, is how does one differentiate b/w 'Them' and 'Us'?

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:51 | 848721 RemiG2010
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That's easy:

'Them' = Crooks&Lairs

'Us' = Jesus Christs&Santa Claus'

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:24 | 848747 anony
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Simple:  Firstly, Are they born of a jewess, or not? Secondly, did they then rise to become the jewish elite, e.g. Fink, Soros, Rubin, Greenspan, Bernanke, Geithner, Gensler, etc.

If those criteria are met and you are not one of them (Blankfein, Madoff, and other jewish underlings are pretenders) then you are "us".

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:36 | 848761 snowball777
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Count the commas.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 11:15 | 849190 MachoMan
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If you have to ask the question, you're one of us.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:49 | 848714 Grimbaldus The ...
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Give me liberty, or I'll get up and get it myself.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:49 | 848715 AnAnonymous
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My, my, my... When do propagandists start to provide healty and cogent propaganda, propaganda that can be believed, propaganda that requires time to be debunked, propaganda that is not an act of faith and submission?

Time to work, propagandists, because the quality level of drivel vomited is low, extremely low. All you do is letting your proponents naked by providing so little cover...

This for example:

Monopolies are formed first and foremost to remove a very particular free-market factor; competition. Competition allows for the organic growth of markets by relying on the general populace to decide which business and financial models work best.


Wake up, propagandists, this point was solved at the beginning of the 1900s, more than one hundred years ago.

Monopolies (or more exactly oligopolies) are the normal outcome of a competition process. The normal expectation of a competition process is to sweep out concurrence and reduce dramatically the number of options available at the start. That is what competition is all about: forming monopolies.

When one sets competition for several applications on a job, one expects one option to come up and under a certain limit of time. No everlasting competition process (resources are limited and can not support an everlasting competition process)

One hundred years... One century... Half the time the US has been in existence. Time to renew the stock. Because this one is getting older by the day.

Monopolies are what is expected from competition. And competition can not run undefinitively because of limitations of resources.

For I dont know what's sake, just take a look at the sports scene in the US and look at how it is rigged just to sustain the competition process. Because sports broadcasters sells the competition process. They invest on breaking competition and to reset it as much as they can to keep the interest alive.

If competition had been left undriven, there would be  only three or four clubs in the US dominating their sports...

Check Formula one, check everything you want but propagandists must come with new drivel, drivel you can believe in.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:13 | 848737 Alex Zhyk
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Yes, monopoly may be result of fair competition, but:

1. There is either free market or monopoly.
2. The more monopolies there are the more economic disproportions they create.
3. Once there is monopoly in the banking it is much easier to create huge credit resources especially with fiat money.
4. With big credit resources it is much easier to create monopolies not on the basis of competitiveness but on sole basis of one’s access to the cheap money.
5. Go back to the point 2.

Yet somehow the correction is neah.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:30 | 848752 Ace Ventura
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"Monopolies (or more exactly oligopolies) are the normal outcome of a competition process."

In a government-overregulated, centrally planned economy....this is true.

In a true free market, where people have choices and successful businesses don't have the luxury of leveraging government force on their behalf....this is impossible.

Competiton can most assuredly run indefinitely, if allowed to occur freely. Your assertion that it can't because resources are finite assumes that competition will never evolve beyond the latest product or service. In other words, in the complete and total absence of 'a better mousetrap'.


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:44 | 848769 snowball777
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Your assertion assumes that we have the luxury of existing without said mousetrap replacement and that we can move from present to future mousetrap technology in a non-trivial amount of time (e.g. before we run out of the old-school mousetraps).

This isn't the horse buggy to car transition; people could still use their horses while saving up for a car.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:55 | 848925 Blankman
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AA:  In sports I agree with your argument.  In the business world I don't.  For example, in the business world you don't necessarily have to have only one dominant player.  THere can be collusion amongst friends to eliminate competition, i.e. - Banking Industry, Oil Industry, Auto Industry.  What they do is get the politicians to to create more laws (or taxes) which hinder small competitive businesses from ever becoming a major player. 


Sure there are laws against this, but who the hell is going to enforce the laws. 

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 11:26 | 849225 ZackLo
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I'm pretty sure the government intervention in the credit markets and taxs are the source of the monopolies we see today....If you look at the USA it looks to be one huge coporation in which webs of Fiat cedit /tax charge off subsidized..everywhere. How would you say there is any place for anyone honest to compete with walmart or mcdonalds or alternative energy to compete with oil subsidies? who can just throw away "not broken" goods and write it off get more of they're profits and laugh all the way to the bank with they're options bonus? when in doubt write it out because the good old american tax payer has a fat income withholding to make sure the subsidy rates keep on flowing...and god forbid they ever spend to much then ben bernanke has all the fiat "liquidity" to fill they're thirst for "peasant" blood sweat and tears.

back in the 1900's you mean the fascist teddy roosevelt? the one who was dancing and laughing at killing spanish? twisted man that left a treacherous legacy to our country by the names of woodrow wilson and later FDR

they both looked up to him in philosophy...


"Starting in 1907 eugenicists in many States started the forced sterilization of the sick, unemployed, poor, criminals, prostitutes, and the disabled. Roosevelt said in 1914: "I wish very much that the wrong people could be prevented entirely from breeding; and when the evil nature of these people is sufficiently flagrant, this should be done. Criminals should be sterilized and feeble-minded persons forbidden to leave offspring behind them."[8"



I personally think nothing is more powerful than a businesses fighting it out to make the most quality products at the best price and the fastest time comptition can only garuntee that.

for instance what happens when we cure cancer? alot of chemo therapists are going to lose their jobs, I guess lets not cure cancer? evolution happens I think competitive markets with hard asset based currencies would go alot farther then any fiat monopoly dream we have ever bring industries together and try and "harmonize" as the article speaks of you shaft the only person who matters "the customer". all of us are "customers"....well now most are just considered consumers..because it doesn't matter whether they make a profit in any real tangible medium of exchanges the gobblemint has they're back at any stubbed big to fail? 


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:01 | 848717 overmedicatedun...
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the author treats the elites as a unified body..

Bush sr says "new world order" or Soros saying "new world order" are not one in the same.

the elites by definition are  each the smartest man in the room.

each using the NWO to his own advantage

Pols in many places have the same self image.

and see themselves maneuvering to leverage NWO to the gain of say CHINA. Russia, India


the demographic of Islam will not accept "jewish elites running the world"

NWO is often the goal stated, but when viewed by those who are now in positions of power and's weakness is built in.

continued movement to centralize power in the hands of these sociopaths under a NWO  will result in wars as the sociopaths vie for top dog.. throw in Islam  and we get the exact opposite of what stablity is claimed for NWO.

This centralization movement will self destruct as the ego's of our elite are too big for one small world.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:50 | 848719 nmewn
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Eugenics bitchez!

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:54 | 848722 israhole
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NWO is really the JWO.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:18 | 848743 anony
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They have taken over every strategic financial nexus in the world.

They don't need to control governments if they control the money.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:48 | 848777 chindit13
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"They have taken over every strategic financial nexus in the world."

Shanghaimi-town?  I had no idea they got that, too!  Great disguises!

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 07:55 | 848723 gookempucky
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Sign Sign everywhere a sign-blocking out the scenery breaking my mind-do this dont do that-cant you read the SIGNSSSSSSS.

Most here on ZH and other alternative news outlets can read the signs and shall prepare accordingly as the gutting of America continues.

BEIJING (AP) -- A U.S. company said Wednesday it wants to start construction this year in China of one of the world's biggest solar power plants after forming a partnership with a major state-owned utility company.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:00 | 848725 anony
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As much as I detest this well-connected zionist, he and the other elitists recognize that there are 3 billion more people on this planet than are needed.

They also recognize that they cannot command a lowered birth rate among the least of us in the poorest countries in the world because that is all these people can do to occupy their time. As miserable an existence as the denizens of Mumbai, Caracas, the Sudan, and other hotbeds of burgeoning populations, as least they can screw.  They haven't the sense even of animals to hold it at 2-3 children and what then would they do with their time?

You don't need to be on high, up there with the elite to realize that there is going to be, whether the self-motivated like it or not, a way to distribute to the masses what they need to survive. For at least half of more of our 7 billion will not be able to work at something in order to earn it. There isn't enough work to do on this planet to employ 3 billion people who can't read or write and the generations coming who won't be able to either in this vicious cycle of rampant limitless reproduction on a finite round ball that is 70%  water.

So gripe and moan all you want ZH but eventually yield to the facts and the reality that Soros and his compadres have known about for a very long time. 

And read your Kurt Vonnegut for Krissakes!!


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:03 | 848729 eblair
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This is the most shameful and dumbfuck invocation of Vonnegut ever.  If you said what the fuck you really meant, it would be obvious that it is something Vonnegut would never say.  Why the obscurantism?  What are you really calling for?

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:07 | 848732 AnAnonymous
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You dont need to be on high?

Wooo, that is a self enforced criterion.

 Stocks are running low:

-on one hand, a side that is struggling to consume, consume not much and is lagging behind when it comes to inventing new ways to consume even more and faster

-on the other hand, a side that is consuming always more and more, excell at finding non sustainable new ways to consume, extremelly apt at absorb any surplus in consumption that could be brought to them

Of course, in order to mitigate the necessary outcome, the first side must be eliminated. How efficient.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:48 | 848778 snowball777
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You know, if you teach them to read and write, the lower birthrate comes as an added bonus.

Is this the Vonnegut you were you referring to?

"You want to know something? We are still in the Dark Ages. The Dark Ages — they haven't ended yet."

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 15:59 | 850128 Lord Koos
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Ignorance is far more expensive than education.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:24 | 848727 eblair
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Some glaring hypocrisy, equivocation, deceitful argument, and delusions.

@ 3:53:  He complains about chronic imbalances, but he wasn't complaining about them when he made billions shorting the pound.  So typical.  Acquire wealth by taking advantage of discrepencies, then change the rules of the system to protect that wealth.

Throughout: He uses the term 'we' but equivocates on who he means.  Ostensibly he means Americans, but he doesn't look like an American patriot.  Find one patriot anywhere in history who has ever called for the devaluation of his currency.  'We' really means him and his super rich buddies who think that they should rule the world.

@ 7:37: He says that having USD as the reserve currency with the concomittant account deficit is not in 'our' interest and 'not appropriate', but it didn't seem to bother him in decades past and calling it 'not appropriate' is just question begging.  'Appropriate' means what and for 'whom'?  He doesn't say.

In short, he is a delusional billionaire.  The correleation between being a billionaire and being dangerously delusional is so high that they should basically never be listened to.  Name a single billionaire who doesn't think he is Einstein.  A heroin addict has a better grasp on reality.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:54 | 848785 TBT or not TBT
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He's a transnational socialist, politically, and that is the source of his pronoun obscurantism.

By "we", he does not mean supporters of the Constitution.  That much is certain.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:52 | 848919 Trader7
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He is also in his 80s, and hence cannot be expected to be on the world scene a whole lot longer. I know he can afford the best medical care, but eventually, "All the kings horses, and all the kings men...."

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:04 | 848730 Sudden Debt
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9.4 million jobs would need to be added immediately to reduce the jobless rate to below 6 percent in America, considered by some economists to be full employment. But the shortfall will grow because roughly 125.000 new jobs a month are needed to keep up with population growth.


So whatever happens, as long as jobgrowth per month is +500.000 ECHT M0NTH for the next few years, the US is F U C K E D

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:06 | 848731 Chappaquiddick
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And in total contrast, have a look at what HSBC are saying:

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:09 | 848736 ReeferMac
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Great writing Mr. Bruno

Thanks for sharing!

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:31 | 848753 Freewheelin Franklin
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This means average people starting their own alternative economies in their own communities based on trade, barter, and sound money (precious metals), in conjunction with fiat until the bottom finally falls out of the dollar.


There's a term for this. It's called Agorism, coined by Samual E. Konkin III.


Here's the primer:


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:30 | 848755 AchtungAffen
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I think most people who write about the NWO don't have much of an idea what they're actually talking about. What is it? An Anglo-American Empire (as described in Alex Jones' "The Obama Deception"), a world controlled by "one bank"?

If that's what you think of the NWO, then you're wrong. That's the AWO, Actual World Order, today's order. That's what happens today: an Anglo-American Empire under "One Bank" (The Fed? The BIS? IMF? World Bank?)

Because a "World Order" is a configuration of global powers, there's always a past, a present and a new one. Bretton Woods, for example, established a New World Order.

But Hey! Soros uttered the phrase "New World Order". That's it, nothing more to think there... right? Actually, NWO, that phrase, is now nothing more than reductionism. Everything considered "evil" is put into that bag.

But listening for actual content, what Soros said was pretty much a correct observation that many here might have already made. That today's world with a "One World Currency", i.e. the Dollar, is not sustainable; and that a new agreement (think of Bretton Woods, for example) will be required to solve the cronic imbalances of the actual order. Thus establishing a new order, at least on currencies.

But no, Soros said "NWO", nothing more to think there...

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:59 | 848793 snowball777
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Did I miss him mentioning adding commodities to the SDR valuation basket?

Even if you don't have a Pavlovian reaction to that TLA, there's plenty of room for skepticism about Soros' benevolent intentions in pimping the 'necessity' of change.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 10:01 | 848941 AchtungAffen
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Heh, I don't trust in the benevolence of anyone with so much money made from speculation. But I still think that what he said in that interview was not what this post made it to be.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 16:37 | 850215 kita27
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i agree, your  comments reflect what i said about 50 comments higher in the list. It seems the term 'New World Order' has come embody all things evil. The mindless sheep are not only the ignorant masses, but those who mindlessly listen to the ideas of shock jocks such as Alex Jones etc. They parrot him as if they are somehow superior to everybody else, as they are able to see 'true reality'.   Garbage!  

i respect the talents of Alex Jones but his personal agenda are obvious to a blind man. He is a conservative, a constitutionalist, an American who still wants the US to maintain its position in the world. Unfortunately for the US and Alex, this is unrealistic and history proves this.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:34 | 848756 wgpitts
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The new world currency will be ushered into the USA withoiut a shot being fired and with missing no more than a cycle of federal supplied state funds, social security, government retirement checks or unemployment checks. The transition will be swift, the bill to congress - chinese containers off the coast waiting to the empty Wal Mart shelves if we simply accept the terms of the IMF

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:45 | 848759 wgpitts
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If This Does Not Convince You of the Reality of the New World Order (World Government) Nothing Will!/note.php?note_id=391782548339


ctions Below:


I. New World Order Promoted by World Leaders 

II. General Inormation on World Government

III. One World Currency and Consolidated Banking System

IV. 10 World Unions Being Created

V. Additional Reading

This global system will be set up with a total of 10 world Unions each similar to the European Union. Additionally there will be a globally controlled monetary and financial system. All trade will be coordinated via regulations of the World trade organization.  The United Nations will represent the polical arm of the world government. Each Union will have a president and a vote in electing a President of the World.

This system will place the governing authority at the head of global unelected bodies, central government planning and central banking systems.

Organization of American States

Carmen Lomellin was confirmed by the United States Senate as Permanent U.S. Representative to the Organization of American States, with the rank of Ambassador, on November 20, 2009.

Nigel farge on fox news on World Government

'The Euro Game Is Up! Just who the hell do you think you are?' - Nigel Farage MEP


I. New World Order Promoted by World Leaders

"The New World Order cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change its perceptions. Just like Zishan says"  -Henry Kissinger - World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994

The New World Order - Coming Soon to a City Near You!


George Bush New World Order


Henry Kissinger New World Order 2007


Gorge Soros on New World Order and World Currency


5/22/10 At West Point, Obama Presses for New World Order to Defeat Al Qaeda


Walter Cronkite and Hillary Clinton Call For A Federal World Government


2/22/10 Gordon Brown Calls For A World Constitution!


EU President Admits One-World Government is Here - NWO - New World Order


Biden Says Brussels Could Be 'Capital of the Free World'


Pope Urges Forming New World Economic Order to Work for the ‘Common Good’

Pope says unilateral acts undermine United Nations

Obama charts new world order at the UN - 23 Sep 09


10-16-09 Is Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty?

6/19/10 Medvedev sees chance for new world order


cnn - obama "president of the world"


Barack Obama: President of the World


Gordon Brown calls for new group to police global environment issues


As part of this New World Order a microchip implant system is being implemented worldwide visit to learn more on this:


G-20 Reflects New Global Power Structure - CBS News


G20 Advances New World Order, Media Admit


3/31/08 Conspiracy - Dick Morris


11/29/07 Ron Paul smeared by CNN's Jeffrey Toobin about NAFTA highway


Map Of World Military Structure


On the Impossibility of Limited Government and the Prospects for a Second American Revolution


Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America


TU.S. Embassy In Baghdad Plans To Double In Size

"The Baghdad embassy is already the largest in the world and bursting at the seams with people and equipment. That request, if granted, could increase the overall U.S. diplomatic presence in Baghdad from around 1,400 to more than 3,000 total personnel, including contractors, said Ford.

The Seat of Power


II. General Inormation on World Government

 United States National Security Strategy: Plan for a New World Order


Video Deciphering the National Security Strategy: Plan for a New World Order


Invisible Empire A New World Order


What the rest of the world is waking up to see: Stan Jones on World Government


The Idiot's Guide to the New World Order


New World Order-Myth Or Reality?




Former KGB: NWO Agenda Covert Operation to Destroy America


III. One World Currency and Consolidated Banking System

 2/25/10 Head of IMF Proposes New Reserve Currency 

2/25/10 IMF wants new power to supervise global financial system


10/9/09 As a new world order dawns, the big institutions will have to wake up[/b]


George Soros on New World Order and World Currency 



10-6-09 Dollar rejected in Gulf. Call's for a new world order


10/7/09 Dollar's Slide Gives Rise to Calls for New Reserve


9/18/09 Fox News: World Currency = World Government


10-4-09 Dick Morris - US Cedes Economic Independence To IMF


10/6/09 The demise of the dollar


A Bigger, Bolder Role Is Imagined For the IMF -


Strauss-Kahn head of IMF is a devout communist


IMF may need to ‘print money’ as crisis spreads


IMF Urges Global Financial Rules -


Global Fusion: The G20, IMF, and World Government


3/27/09 US backing for world currency stuns markets


3/27/09 A world currency moves nearer after Tim Geithner's slip


The coming 1-world currency: Some set 2010 as date for monetary union


3/24/09 China urges new global reserve currency,28124,25233524-36375,00.html


3/30/09 Russia to call for new reserve currency at G20


3/20/09 UN Panel to Say World Should Ditch Dollar


10/15/08 IMF Should Police National Financial Regulators: E.U. Summit


10/17/08 EU call for global financial regulation masks intra-European and international tensions


10/11/08 Rescue the Old World Financial Order or Build a New One

10/6/08 Russia, Germany may join forces for global financial hubs


12/8/08 Financial Times- And now for a world government


To learn more about the global financial system visit:The private central Federal Reserve Bank and IMF seek to overthrow the united States Constitutional form of Government

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:59 | 848794 blindfaith
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I will need a second life to read all that.

Correct me if I am wrong but Facebook, Fox and CNBC are not real news sources.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:40 | 848889 EvlTheCat
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I guess ZH isn't a "real news source" either, by your own assumption.  Your boat departing back to the MSM is leaving, better get on it..

I would think one would at least view the sources provided before denouncing them wholly.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:39 | 848766 UnRealized Reality
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STOP with this NWO crap. Who thinks of this shit. They are all, just a bunch of greedy bastards. They can't even agree on how to be greedy. There is ONLY the U.S. Empire. Period. Amen.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:39 | 848767 walcott
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scorched earth bitchezz ww3

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:46 | 848774 Tic tock
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It is a simple matter to have any number of people gainfully employed, under the current mountains of regulation it is difficult and the lack of business intelligence in the common information sphere is staggering. ..there are people who want to live in comfort zones and there are people who want to take chances. Some who live in comfort don't take chances, they never want to see their way of life disturbed because it scares them - they live in fear, of losing their comfort. There are people who want to take chances but cannot afford to, responsibility, wisdom, family, income. There are also people who cannot afford to take chances and who have no inclination to do so, your happy consumer. Government policy is to force everyone into 'Health and Safety', do-not-take-chances, do not stop, call 911. That is the Law. ..if you want to take chances, you join the financial services industry. That is the only path. 

There's a story of Slaine, a Celtic hero, who returns the worship of the Mother Goddess after an era where it was supplanted by Patrimonial gods. In the course of doing so he travels to her domain to ask questions of her. To get there, he has to kill his own subconscious demons, Ambition, Desires, patriarchal disposition... this is where we are, in western economies. The major demon we have to collectively face is this 'love of playing the markets' - we're ingrained to believe that this is the most fun, the most important, the zenith of individual achievement. IT clearly isn't - seeing your own child learning to read, making a joke, fills you up and stays with you in away no parabolic curve would ever do (hypothesis on my part). 

Individually, we have to be ready for what a non-financially-conglomeraterized world would be like, effectively, we have to imagine working towards a world that doesn't need money. It's not whether we get's an ideal, the point-of-light that cklears the mind and soul and leads us to what we're looking for. 

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:46 | 848776 blindfaith
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pretty much shaking my head up and down until the author presented the commercial for his own enterprise.  And enterprise with holes, lots of problems, and a bit to much like turning the clock back 150 years and living in the rural South.  All that barter stuff sounds great until you take that chicken, Sara spoke of, to the doctor as trade for treatment.  Then it all falls apart.

Resources, sure they are getting used up.  But resources are still in the ground too.  The problem is the cost to get them out, time, human, environmental, and of course political payment costs.  China runs around the world buying resources to keep the peace at home, we make military deals to do the same.  The minds of engineers have no respect in America anymore, just ipad creators.  Let Mr. Jobs come up with some magic energy resource to save the world, instead of adding to the mindless junk we already have.  Priorities in America and the west in general are roots of our weakness. 

You make yourself a slave by the choices you make when you know they will do you no real good.  Temporary pleasure is a needed thing but the developed world has turned a treat into a necessity...look at cable tv, snacks, special coffee, porn, and the list goes on and on.  The "NWO" whoever 'they' are, are only giving you more of what you demand ( and frankly you likely have some investment in their operations anyway, say 401k).

Competition, if you are under the radar, there is competition.  Once your company, country, or name is in the big leagues, the rules are different and anything goes now.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 08:50 | 848780 Pants McPants
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Sheesh what's with all the strange posts this morning?  NWO brings out the best in people, no doubt about it.

I don't really care about the ethnicity of whoever ends up running the's all the same when you talk about a world government & currency, the ultimate end game.  Arguing about whether or not the people pulling the levers are of a particular race is immaterial, but I suppose all prisoners know every detail about their guardians.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:11 | 848813 snowball777
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If you think the locals are whacked, check out the ignorance spewing forth from the comments on the video page.

People like Lloyd, Vikram, Moynihan, Thain, etc are a different species...homo speculatus...distinguished by an under-developed forebrain and over-developed ventromedial hypothalamus.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:01 | 848798 Eric The Red
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What is so sacred about the Old World Order?  How is that working out for you?

Big Wheel keeps on turning bitchez!  Stop whining and prepare.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:07 | 848803 Implicit simplicit
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The anti-new world order.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:11 | 848807 Hephasteus
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We are a little less than 2 years from having a doorway to the black hole at the center of our galaxy opened to us. Black holes are full of neutrons. Neutrons are vicious neutral sociopaths. The universe expands because people are repulsive and the only way to get any peace is to make it expand faster and further. Every 2150 years we get a new set of sociopaths trying to rule us.

It's time to put on your sunday worst and just get a nasty kind of repulsive. Because these are predators and just because you're not a predator doesn't mean you can't be mean. These are cattle ranchers pure and simple and you're the cattle. They will protect you and care for you right up till the time when the butchers come to make you dinner. You better get gagalicious and quick.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:25 | 848814 Salinger
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Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:15 | 848818 dcb
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letter I wrote to the FT today

I would like to applaud the editorial staff of the ft for its recent content. The rise of the web and distributed open free non corporate controlled information Vs. Governments and corporations, and the back lash of the massive recent failures of the governing elites. Most papers fail in that they treat each episode as a distinct entity instead of drawing a theme of explaining the central themes that are happening in the world today. While it is clear me, and therefore I hope others that the content of the two editorials are related with the second being the cause of the first. I remain deeply disturbed by this trend, and see the growth of the United States domestic security apparatus as a possible future entity designed to ensure governmental failures remain hidden from sight. clearly, this has huge implications for democratic governments. It would appear the "elites" are building the infrastructure to make democracy ineffective and instead of their leadership being determined by popular choice, is instead controlled by their control of that infrastructure. It only takes a small leap of the imagination to see the parallels between our current system and the book 1984. The Nazis didn't rise to power over night, but instead utilized a slow creep of diminished civil liberties and "popular" support because of elite failures. They say such a things could never happen here, I'm afraid we are already much closer to that future than I am comfortable with. The recent Supreme court ruling that allows for unlimited corporate spending in association with campaigns just further draws attention to the potential dangers that lie ahead.
Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:18 | 848825 PigsOnTheWing
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Resistance is futile.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:27 | 848834 sbenard
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Progressivism IS tyranny!

They are the same philosophies and policies that motivated the great tyrants and dictators of the 20th Century! FDR referred affectionately to Stalin as "Uncle Joe". Italian dictator Mussolini referred affectionately to FDR as "America's Dictator". It wasn't because they were CUTE!! It was because they shared the same values and goals. They also share the same means to their lofty ends -- COERCION! And they don't recognize individual human liberty or rights or any limitations on the power of government.

End tyranny! End progressivism!

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:24 | 848835 creviceCaress
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i say let's evolve......anyone know how to build an EMP?  escape from L.A. dude, pliskin ended the movie with my wet dreeeeeam.....EMP the whole stinking rock


like somebody just said up and to the left......who?  really knows what the Fkn NWO is?  if a NWO does come it'll be whatever oxygen thieves are lined up to fill the vacuum.


this might be a little 'woo-woo' for y'all, but ya gotta realize that all this ass-crackery that we deal with today - ponzis, NWO, DHS, soros, wars economic downchurns, currency debasement, pollution, GOM clusterf*ck, hydro fracking, bird/fish kills, crazy jewry domination, depleted uranium, melamine in my condom, cancer, stuxnets, do realize that you and i are responsible for this?


i say man up and claim that responsibility.  then push the shiny red button on the EMP.



Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:33 | 848861 sbenard
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Interesting comment! I just finished reading the book, "One Second After". Following an EMP that brings the U.S. to its knees within a fraction of a second, over the course of the next year, 90% of the U.S. population dies, mostly from the end of availability of medicines, starvation, apocalyptic anarchy, and crime. Amazing book, should be read by all Americans!

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 09:28 | 848846 Zero Debt
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There is a key part of this video which is the following quote:

"The problem is, there is a cost to using SDR. It is a very small cost at the moment, it is less than half a percent, but still it's a cost. So somebody has to pay it. And I think we have, actually, the means to do it, because the IMF has very large gold reserves, and kept in the books at a very low price... so the IMF could actually pick up the cost of paying for those SDRs."

Let me see here...more UNDERVALUED gold will end up at the PRIVATE central banks, when a GLOBAL currency which is DEBT-BASED and circulates with INTEREST that can FLUCTUATE.... wtf?

George is a clever guy because in the same sentence as he tries to indebt the whole world to a global central bank, he talks about helping poor countries (which Hugh Hendry noticed, "George is embracing socialism"). That's great, just send all the gold from the nation states, to the central banks.

Why not just let the nation states have their gold back and issue their own debt-free currencies instead? Then IMF wouldn't be that necessary.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 11:24 | 849222 MachoMan
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What are the reported gold holdings of the U.S. and the IMF?  Something like 7:1 respectively?  My question is what's in it for us?  Why not print with reckless abandon and then convert to a new currency under our own gold standard?  Or, simply repudiate the debt and start a new currency under our own gold standard?  Either way...

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 16:28 | 850194 Marla And Me
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Because, as Another and FOA have argued, the U.S. paid for its oil/energy binge in gold.  The advertised reserves are probably not what they used to be.

Thu, 01/06/2011 - 14:48 | 853401 MachoMan
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Is that kind of like the IMF selling its gold?  Or did the jokers actually get the physical in their hands?  Too many questions...

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 16:56 | 848944 Trader7
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What the author presents as the problem is very compelling, but the proposed solutions do not seem viable. In any dictatorial system, said solutions would simply be outlawed. Yes, to a limited extant, people could dabble in the black market, but would an NWO government allow a large alternative system to exist in defiance of its goals? No.


My apologies to Tyler Durden. I see he posted the article, rather than wrote the article, so I have corrected my comment.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 10:14 | 848994 Rodent Freikorps
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Fuck George Soros.

The neo-nobility sees all y'all as animals. They'd think nothing of killing off a few billion of you just to make room for a golf course.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 10:21 | 849015 Careless Whisper
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excellent article. thanks for posting.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 10:58 | 849140 viator
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An other step on the path to the NWO.

When the U.S. Department of Commerce terminated its exclusive policy relationship with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), the tech world was aflutter, but the event seemed to have no impact on the average American’s interactions with the Web.

"That is going to change. ICANN is now supervised by an international body, the Government Advisory Council, in which the U.S. has no veto or even any institutionalized leadership role. We have voting representation in the body today, and some unique legacy influence, but there is no guarantee we will always have that. In the planned restructuring of ICANN’s governing board, the U.S. faces being relegated to a defined region of the globe in which we will be one of dozens of European and North American nations vying for the region’s five voting slots. Meanwhile, another newly defined “Arab States” region will bestow five voting slots on a bloc whose membership is, in effect, the Arab League."

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 11:14 | 849189 Azannoth
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If they ban Internet porn I am gonna shot my self :)

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 11:53 | 849297 Stuck on Zero
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Resistance is futile.  You shall be assimilated.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 13:00 | 849534 Beard of Zeus
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I would like to see a discussion of where mass immigration fits into the NWO agenda. I believe mass immigration is imposed on the West to achieve specific objectives. What do you think?

Also, the real solutions required to break the grip of the NWO are not the kind of ideas and methods that would or should be discussed on a public website like ZH.

I hope everyone here understands this.


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 13:10 | 849568 Trader7
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Mass immigration is being used to replace the labor force with people who have lower expectations for the standard of living in the country they migrate to. Someone who works for the globalists told me that "$8hr is an outrageously high wage for anyone working in US manufacturing."

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 18:45 | 850735 AchtungAffen
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While the US keeps avoiding to tax corporate earnings syphoned abroad (to avoid taxation huh) $8/hr will continue to be "outrageously high wage for anyone working in US manufacturing". But no, "taxes" are NWO, look! Soros says it! Soros says it!

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 13:08 | 849572 Trader7
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Mass immigration is also used to some extent to create the Tower of Babel effect.

Wed, 01/05/2011 - 13:35 | 849664 Phineas Gage
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Wed, 01/05/2011 - 16:16 | 850167 Bullionaire
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I think Mr Bruno should become Johnny Silverseed!


Wed, 01/05/2011 - 19:49 | 850961 ClassicalLib17
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I don't see how a small, elite, group of criminals could possibly hope to control the people of the United States of America, let alone the rest of the potentially violent humans residing on this planet. I believe what the more thoughtful members of zero hedge believe: These people are now all in over their heads and the system is going to crash world-wide.

I am new at this so bear with me.............. Gold and silver, bitchez

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