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Guest Post: The Federal Reserve: Our Policy Is To Steal From You

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Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:43 | 1477304 Clueless Economist
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THIS sickens me

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:48 | 1477316 Ripped Chunk
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It should

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:10 | 1477370 Quixotic_Not
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Another day in cowardly (D) & (R) Free Shit Empire™...wake me up when the DemoRATs and GOPhers find out they aren't really Americans.

Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have. ~ Davy Crockett

Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official ~ Theodore Roosevelt

Paramount among the responsibilities of a free press is the duty to prevent any part of the government from deceiving the people. ~ Hugo Black, Supreme Court Justice

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:24 | 1477448 Hearst
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Don't forget to add this just released bit of info which highlights the above articles point.

Fed’s Dudley Got Waiver to Keep AIG Holdings


The Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s William C. Dudley got a waiver in 2008 to keep personal financial holdings of American International Group Inc. after the company received a Fed rescue, a U.S. senator said.

Dudley, who was the New York Fed’s markets-group chief at the time and is now the bank’s president, is the senior New York Fed official identified in a Government Accountability Office report today as receiving the waiver, Senator Bernard Sanders, a Vermont Independent, said today in a statement. Jack Gutt, a New York Fed spokesman, declined to comment."




Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:41 | 1477510 GottaBKiddn
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"Too bad theft via inflation isn't a felony."

It is a felony, it just isn't prosecuted.



Thu, 07/21/2011 - 23:25 | 1478753 Quaderratic Probing
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Scared me too so I checked my wallet....Thank God not one single dollar I earned in 1966 was there. I had 7 bucks I earned yesterday and they were not hit too bad. I expect to buy a burger with it today, and will devalue that food to shit by tommorow. The burger store can worry about the 7 bucks value next week.... but I bet they will buy something with it before too long. Burn rate for $100 is 4 days ( time average person holds $100 ). 98% of what they buy is valueless soon after they own it.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:46 | 1477313 Hondo
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FED policy of stealing savers wealth accumulation is killing the elderly group who had saved and expected to live off the income and principal....eating in to principal a decade before they expected.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:15 | 1477400 Quixotic_Not
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Same shit, different century...

Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices. ~ Voltaire

The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. ~ Albert Einstein

The government I live under has been my enemy all my active life. When it has not been engaged in silencing me it has been engaged in robbing me. So far as I can recall I have never had any contact with it that was not an outrage on my dignity and an attack on my security. ~ HL Mencken

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:56 | 1477319 Azannoth
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"The problem with long term capital gains is that it taxes inflated gains, not real value."

The system has all bases covered, be born a slave die a slave

Reminds me of the movie 'War Games' where a computer learns that the only way to win is not to play


Only the subtitle should read 'Winner is: Not You'

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:13 | 1477398 HungrySeagull
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The winner was the Movie theater. We had em stacked 12 across two decks deep in a 1/3 mile long shopping mall for 6 hour waits to standing room only 700 at a time per viewing every two hours in all 10 theaters. Nothing else was being shown for a long time.

That was a crazy time in those days.


Now here we are sitting in a world where a Arab can carry nuke and ensure that NYC is a smoking hole in the land.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 13:03 | 1477647 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Yes, an Arab asset of the CIA you mean.



Thu, 07/21/2011 - 13:52 | 1477850 weinerdog43
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I didn't realize Tim McVeigh was an arab CIA asset.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 18:33 | 1478923 chemystical
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i didnt realize mcveigh had a nuke.


p.s. if you think that mcveigh was anything more than a patsy and that big brother made an earnest effort to find the others involved, then i have some swamp land you might want to invest in.  sorta like when bush vowed to find those who made millions shorting the airlines stocks on sept 10 2001.  how's that investigation going?

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:49 | 1477320 PlausibleDenial
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http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d11696.pdf.  Yes, and they do so preferentially. But, who didn't know that???

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:50 | 1477322 Matto
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Q. If productivity increases by 2% per year (as a figure), and official inflation rate is 3%, what is the real inflation rate? 

Answer: 5%

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:53 | 1477334 Matto
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(Ignoring the manipulation of official inflation figures themselves)

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 13:02 | 1477639 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Simply put, monetary inflation is the amount of currency produced above and beyond the increase in goods and services.  If monetary inflation is 3% in a given year and goods and services increase 2%, the real monetary inflation rate is 1%.



Thu, 07/21/2011 - 15:03 | 1478187 Matto
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No that's the measurable inflationary effect. Monetary inflation is the amount of currency produced in addition to the previous amount of currency produced.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:52 | 1477327 Ripped Chunk
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"the official policy of the Federal Reserve is to engineer and maintain inflation"


Thanks, I know this has been pointed out over and over but I think it needs to be posted daily until people finally get it.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:44 | 1477527 Greenhead
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"the official policy of the Federal Reserve is to destroy the purchasing power of your money"

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:01 | 1477329 Cognitive Dissonance
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The dollar has lost most of its value just in the past 45 years; according to the BLS inflation calculator (which very likely understates real inflation), it takes $7 2011 dollars to buy what $1 bought in 1966, at the top of the post-war Bull market.

Very interesting. And if I remember correctly the dollar value of Silver in a 1964 90% Washington Silver Quarter in 1964 was around 6 cents. So if that were to double 7 times, today that would be....

$0.12, then $0.24, then $0.48, then $0.96, then $1.92, then $3.84 and finally $7.68

And at today's Silver spot of $39.83 plus or minus...

$39.83 x .0321507466 x 6.25 x .90 = $7.2031722260

So today's dollar Silver 'value' of that 1964 Silver Washington Quarter is $7.20. Looks like Silver is a very effective hedge against the Fed's currency destruction.



Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:23 | 1477446 r101958
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+100 Cog.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:57 | 1477609 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Simply put pre-65 dimes, quarters and halves are worth about 27 times $1 face value.



Thu, 07/21/2011 - 13:27 | 1477761 pods
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Makes me long for the days when you could get them at 10x face.  


Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:54 | 1477332 wsmith
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Which CNBC girl would you most like to fuck?



The hot Chinese Fast Money girl?

Or the English fag?  His name escapes me.

This is very important, people.

Don't take the poll lightly.

Anyway, so long.

And God bless all you Marxist cocksuckers.


Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:01 | 1477362 InconvenientCou...
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holding your breath for a really long time is a blast dude! Just power through the light at the end of the tunnel.

God is waiting to bless you with the rewards you so richly deserve.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:12 | 1477405 Clueless Economist
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Steve Liesman

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:59 | 1477615 Ripped Chunk
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should be euthanized.

Sorry to finish your sentence for you.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:29 | 1477465 Cpl Hicks
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Your parents must have cut off the cable to your basement boycave; Erin has been gone from CNBS for months.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 13:01 | 1477629 madbomber
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I cant tell if you're saying you're a communist or that you don't like them.  


Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:53 | 1477333 Stoploss
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Felony punishable by hanging.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:54 | 1477336 sitenine
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In gold we trust.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:56 | 1477337 Sudden Debt
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Inflation has always been there in history. It's also a mayor factor in pricing and profit models.

Inflation is good, as long as it's contained below economic growth. And that... isn't that good...

So if you have a 5% growth and a 4% inflation, you're not in danger but you have no real growth.

But if you have a -5% growth and a 4% inflation, you lost about 10% of your economy.

AND THAT is what's happening because it's cumulative.

If your drowning in debt, whetever outcome, inflation is good. Especially if you don't care about anything else.

And as the FED is trying to stimulate inflation while the economy is in the shit house, that's indeed stealing because they know all to well that when the economy contracts you need deflation but again, when you're drowning in debt... deflation kills you.

A Rock and a Hard place so to speak.

And bankers punish governments more then citizens do, so it's a easy decision.


Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:54 | 1477589 Tuco Benedicto ...
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The bankers "are" the governments.



Thu, 07/21/2011 - 14:44 | 1478074 Matto
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Fail. The notion that inflation is good is an economic fallacy.

A productive economy earns and is rewarded by deflation.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 18:11 | 1478881 Nels
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So if you have a 5% growth and a 4% inflation, you're not in danger but you have no real growth.

Well, if you have a tax rate > 25%, you have a loss on that 5% gain if you sell.  And as inflation continues, more and more folks will be seeing higher effective tax rates.  Inflation has always been there in fiat money, not so much in gold bullion.

Inflation is theft.  If you are drowning in debt and want to steal your way out of it, then inflation is a good.  It is still theft.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:57 | 1477348 gbresnahan
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Now that some of the "too big to fail" banks are no longer at risk, I think it is time to dismantle them and split them up piecemeal.  Too big to fail = Too big to exist.  We can't allow the health of the American/global economy to be at risk if this happens again.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:57 | 1477349 GiantWang
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"[I]t takes $7 2011 dollars to buy what $1 bought in 1966, at the top of the post-war Bull market.

Can we buy 7 times more goods and services now? Or can we actually only buy 6 times more goods? If so, then our earnings have actually declined by 15%. Put another way: 15% of our earnings have been effectively stolen via inflation."

What . . . ?  This is wrong.  The question is does $7 today buy exactly what $1 bought in 1966 AND is more work required today to earn $7 than was required to earn $1 in 1966.  Analyzing that information is the only way to conclude that inflation has stolen from workers.  Inflation clearly steals from savers who invest conservatively (and aren't savers conservative by nature anyway?).

Good points on the criminal justice system.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:04 | 1477371 SheepDog-One
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The dollar has lost 98% of its 'value' since 1913.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:13 | 1477410 GiantWang
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Which is fantastic for companies that existed in 1913 and were net debtors at that time.  The loss in value of the dollar is only one component to determining inflation for people who depend on wages rather than savings.

Your statistic is devastating for people and companies that were net savers in 1913, but the only way to determine the effect on workers is to take into consideration increases in wages.  Does an average hour of work today yield the same purchasing power?

Again, inflation is devastating for savers, especially in an environment like this where interest rates clearly lag inflation and real value is being destroyed.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:18 | 1477423 GiantWang
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Woops . . . double post.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:52 | 1477573 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Amazing how that is a loss of 1 percentage point per year since the establishment of the privately held Federal Reserve in 1913, which means by the end of 2013 the dollar will be worth its intrinsic value.  Plan accordingly!


Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 13:51 | 1477810 Smiddywesson
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The dollar has been debased by 98%???  Yes but that remaining 2% is the best part of the dollar. 

Think of the dollar as a big Tootsie Pop the Fed has been licking for a century, and Ben's just getting to the chewy center.  All is well.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 11:58 | 1477351 JJSF
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I've made it my mission over the past 10 years to just explain one thing to folks in come into contact with whether it's my single-serving-friend on a plane, relatives etc..

And that is explaining in a simplistic way how money is created and to whom the benefits for that creation go..

The following works well and spawns many questions from the person you are talking with..


Me : "The federal reserve creates a dollar out of nothing then it is lent to the treasury and we pay interest on it."

Counterparty: You mean every dollar in existence is currently yielding interest? Who get's this interest?

Me: The Federal Reserve.


Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:25 | 1477454 SilverIsKing
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Money should represent assets, or an IOU on assets, not an IOU on thin air.

Looking at it another way, two people can barter for goods and if one doesn't want what the other offers, he can accept an IOU for that good and use it later or use it in a separate barter transaction.  If someone prints up a bunch of these IOUs, what will the underlying value of each IOU be when they are brought back to the original issuer for redemption?

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 12:53 | 1477583 Amish Hacker
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It's a little more complicated than that. In theory, the Fed is a non-profit operation. Their earnings from the interest payments on Treasury borrowings are used to cover expenses, salaries and (lavish) perks. Any money beyond that is returned to the Treasury.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 14:47 | 1478084 Matto
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No, a 6% dividend is taken before the balance is returned.

Thu, 07/21/2011 - 15:09 | 1478223 Amish Hacker
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Quite right, Matto. I should have made it clear that the 6% dividend to member banks is considered part of the expenses: http://www.mindcontagion.org/fed/fedfacts.html

An outrageous system however you look at it. Meanwhile the public sleeps on.


Thu, 07/21/2011 - 15:50 | 1478431 Matto
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Thu, 07/21/2011 - 13:00 | 1477625 Thisson
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How do you explain the counterargument that the interest is then remitted back to the treasury? 

My understanding is that it is, after certain dividends are paid out to Fed shareholders, and that the amount of those dividends are not public info.  I sure would like to know the details.

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