Guest Post: For A Few Dollars More - Part 1

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Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:26 | 1208256 Rodent Freikorps
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OT, but told ya so.

Texas refinery outages bring orders to stay inside

TEXAS CITY, Texas (AP) — Schools canceled classes and residents were urged to stay inside Tuesday after power outages shut down three Houston-area refineries, including BP unit where a 2005 explosion killed 15 people, and a Dow Chemical plant.

Emergency officials were working to determine what caused the Texas City outages, which a spokeswoman for Texas New Mexico Power company said involved a "customer-owned equipment problem."


Tue, 04/26/2011 - 15:32 | 1208742 That Peak Oil Guy
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The fundamental cause of our decline is overpopulation leading to overconsumption of vital resources and pollution poisoning our environment.

The rest is window dressing showing how humans respond to the true cause and end up making it even worse.

I'm not saying it's not fascinating and entertaining to speculate on (because it is) but the stuff talked about here is not the "cause" of our problems.


Tue, 04/26/2011 - 17:28 | 1209237 Dejean Splicer
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I've had enough of the peak population conspiracy theories.

What a bunch of rubbish.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 17:57 | 1209307 That Peak Oil Guy
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Not conspiracy theories. Just human nature.  The same traits that allow us to survive in times of scarce resources caused us to overshoot the carrying capacity of the planet in times of plenty.  Most other life forms behave the same way, the difference with humans is the scale of the overshoot due to our unique ability to manipulate the world to our benefit.

The conspiracy is the people who may be trying to solve the problem in unnatural ways.


Tue, 04/26/2011 - 19:55 | 1209658 gmj
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Dejean, population and consumption are presently high enough that natural resources are becoming scarce and expensive.  But population is projected to increase from six billion to nine billion in the next fifty years.  And per capita consumption is going to increase dramatically, because of the rise of the middle class in China and India.  Meanwhile, it has been well established that oil and coal reserves have been overestimated in order to attract investment.  Are you watching the prices of resource-related stocks?  They are exploding upward.  I don't understand your optimism.

There have been local resource-related collapses in the past.  This one will be global.  

Wed, 04/27/2011 - 04:34 | 1210409 MadeOfQuarks
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Our world can support a much larger population than today if we bothered to develop the tech for it. The sun provides more energy than we will ever need, if we recycle everything we need hardly dig anything out of the ground (after all most stuff we consume tends to get smaller), more efficient water purifcation will provide us with all the fresh water we need etc. The problem is that there isn't any money in sustainability on the corporate level thus r&d is underfunded.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:27 | 1208267 redpill
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OT: Vast Libertarian Conspiracy Exposed

Everywhere, USA (AP) — Libertarians have been exposed as to wanting to take over the government and promptly leave everyone alone.


Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:40 | 1208320 bigdumbnugly
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problem is that there are too many teet suckers who don't want any part of that.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:48 | 1208362 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 2012

Dr. Ron Paul for President!

Thu, 04/28/2011 - 00:18 | 1214830 RockyRacoon
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Did you get my reply to your question about trading silver coins for gold?

by RockyRacoon
on Tue, 04/26/2011 - 23:49

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:32 | 1208292 williambanzai7
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Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:54 | 1208373 DoChenRollingBearing
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Train wreck dead ahead.

Prepare accordingly.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 14:22 | 1208510 ivana
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:-D hahahaha grat man .... we'll wreck the economy and kill this dog hhahaha

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 15:42 | 1208790 SemperFord
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That was great WB7, some of your best work if I do say so myself.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 23:51 | 1210172 Trifecta Man
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Cutting Edge.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 16:31 | 1209022 velobabe
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you are very talented, and lifted my spirits up^ after reading this horrible article by the burring platform man.

damn, does he have an axe to grind or what? he must hate his mother or his grandma, so bad. he sure thinks he can paint with a really broad brush. hard to do if you are at all compassionate. never read something as generalized as this POS.

any way, i knew you made this video. i never saw a few good men. i never liked movies with guns and killing even in the west. well, suppose only the western parts of america had gunslingers. we have nice old ladies that were hippies and went to woodstock, etc. that didn't turn into greedfestors. i know several, but can only speak for myself. i rejected money, kinda of not purposely pursuing it in life, as a goal. never went after men with money, for a reason.

b o r i n g,

kinda of like zerohedge is getting to be lately. except for you banzai, you are staying true to your colors. kiss kiss to all†

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 19:21 | 1209568 Loose Caboose
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....what she said....and this:

I don't own an i-anything.  No sense saying anything further as apparently, it's predictable, and therefore a waste of key strokes. 




Tue, 04/26/2011 - 17:45 | 1209251 Problem Is
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I would have gone with:

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
And that classic music theme:


Tue, 04/26/2011 - 17:46 | 1209288 falak pema
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A last train to boot hill...full of boomers going ...chug a lug, chug a lug,

I hope this tunnel leads to my mega bonus!

WB7 you did it again... 

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:36 | 1208299 bugs_
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there are two kinds of people in this world my friend, those who print, and those who dig.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:47 | 1208358 X. Kurt OSis
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ayeee ayeee aaaah.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 14:08 | 1208452 Don Birnam
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Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:36 | 1208307 dick cheneys ghost
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"you gonna print that money or whistle dixie?"

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 14:13 | 1208445 Don Birnam
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Lone Watie: How did you know which one was goin' to foreclose first? 
Josie Wales: Well, that banker in the center: he had a book full of NINJA loans and he was in no itchin' hurry. And the Ditech originator second from the left with the scared eyes, he has a leased Porshe Cayenne sixty days past due, so he wasn't gonna do nothin'. But that one on the far left, in the Bank of America polo shirt: he had crazy eyes. Figured him to make the first move. 
Lone Watie: How 'bout the one on the right? 
Josie Wales: Never paid him no mind; he was FHA. Besides, you were there. 
Lone Watie: I could have missed...the foreclosure auction. 

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 14:19 | 1208505 bigdumbnugly
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we gonna bury them thar bankers, josie?

nope. leave 'em.  buzzards got to eat, same as worms.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 14:51 | 1208605 dick cheneys ghost
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"I know what you’re thinking: 'Did he print $six trillion, or only five?' Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I’ve kinda lost track myself. But being this is a .44 Magnum printer, the most powerful printer in the world, and would blow the world clean up, you’ve got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, Ben?"

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 16:03 | 1208864 krispkritter
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Tue, 04/26/2011 - 17:58 | 1209316 Mentaliusanything
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That gave me a real good chuckle

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:36 | 1208308 bothsidesnow
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When you and your generation get out in the streets and riot like the boomers did in the 60's then I will listen to this crap.

Move along nothing to see here.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 14:09 | 1208458 knowless
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right, because the situation hasn't changed dramatically? patriot act? indefinate detentions?


what about the protests of the RNC/DNC/WTO/NAFTA/G7/8/20?.. they just call them anarchists and lockemup..


it's not that they aren't rioting, it's that the shit is never reported.. also, the younger generations are either fully placated by their massive student debt (which the baby boomers didn't have to deal with), or near homeless just trying to figure out how to make rent, or living with their parents..boomerang.


I don't generally support finger pointing between generations, as it accomplishes nothing..


but if you don't think the younger generations are doing anything, then you aren't paying attention.. we do not live in the 60's anymore, shit is in lock down.


also, a criminal record will make it impossible to find housing, as renting in the vast majority of cities that actually have jobs to offer requires a clean record.. so have fun "protesting" or "rioting" when if you are arrested you are summarrilly disallowed from renting legally..


was it like that in the sixties?

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 14:15 | 1208488 gmrpeabody
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We here at ZH have grown from blamming everybody on the left (or right) only to start blaming everybody over 50 (or under 50).

Seems nobody has learned anything.


Tue, 04/26/2011 - 14:27 | 1208522 knowless
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the debtors mindset is now our cultural legacy, I wouldn't blame that on any particular generation. but comparing the current atmosphere to that of the 60's just seems naive to me, the cost of dissent is now much higher, quicker to implement, and harder to evade. no matter what your age.


that is my only point.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 15:48 | 1208814 gmrpeabody
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My remark was not directed at you, Knowless. It was just served up in general. This whole article harkens back to the endless "but YOU voted for him" , right vs left argument. Only now, we've gone generational.

Oh, that's right..., my Dad did it.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 21:00 | 1209754 i-dog
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Quinn is very clever at stating the true situation then misdirecting the blame. He's already done it many times here.

These predictions of the forward course of American "democratic" government were made very public way back in 1958 -- when the baby boomers were still in grade school -- by somebody who allegedly knew of the oligarchs' plans. See how many you/we think have come to pass:

  1. Greatly expanded government spending on every conceivable means of getting rid of American wastefully as possible
  2. Higher...then much higher...taxes
  3. An increasingly unbalanced budget...despite the higher taxes
  4. Wild inflation of the currency
  5. Government controls of prices, wages and materials...supposedly to combat inflation
  6. Greatly increased socialistic controls over every operation of the economy and every activity of daily lives...accompanied by huge increase in the size of the bureaucracy and in the cost and reach of central government
  7. Far more centralisation of control in federal government and practical elimination of state lines...until they are no more relevant than current county lines
  8. Steady advance of federal aid to, and control over, the education system...leading to complete federal control over public education
  9. Constant hammering into the American consciousness of the horror of modern warfare...and the need to give up individual rights to attain peace.

What we have here is a controlled demolition of the American economy. It was planned long ago by earlier generations of the same oligarchs that are pulling the strings today -- with the end objective of bringing all the wayward freedom-loving sheep back under the feudal control of a few European aristocratic families, administered under a single world government.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 21:38 | 1209841 DavidPierre
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SmokeyQuinn is a 'Usefull Idiot',* a simpleminded tool for an age old system. He again attempts  'divide and conquer' with this tripe.


Tue, 04/26/2011 - 14:32 | 1208546 Blotsky
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How many times have I, a 29 year old, wanted to go out to a busy road with a sign and simply show things for the way they are but have not? Alot.

Get out there and make any sort of a ruckus in the slightest bit and you can rest assured that the police will mark you down and throw your name in a database, and thats not a "conspiracy theory".

Yeah, it sucks. I graduated in the class of 2000 and I'll say this, the overwhelming majority of my generation are absolutely clueless as to what is going on, and if told, they could care less.

So most of my peers dont care and even if they did, like me, they would have to deal with being marked and entered.

The Boomers are not alone to blame, I'll take accountability for myself, but there is more severe BS that me and my generation get to deal with than in the 60's.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 15:53 | 1208823 Stormdancer
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Thankyou Blotsky.  There's a lot of truth in the article we boomers need to deal with, but focusing the spotlight on a "generation" instead of the lack of integrity... independent of age or generation... is just folly and will only serve to divide the very forces that need to be working together to expose the illusions we've been deceived by.

The Boomers

The Jews






...all divisive distractions designed to keep us mired in the few disagreements so we never notice and cooperate in the many things we do agree on.


Tue, 04/26/2011 - 15:18 | 1208692 Auricle of Omaha
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Fuck the boomers... They got great music, muscle cars, pot, free sex, cocaine, and a stock market that sent their 401ks and IRAs into the stratosphere. At a minimum they can bear some of the burden of the current fiasco.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 15:19 | 1208709 duo
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not to mention an almost free quality education in public schools and universities.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 15:25 | 1208731 Bicycle Repairman
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There are some boomers among the 1% that own everything.  Go collect from them.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 16:52 | 1209117 Mr Pinnion
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"not to mention an almost free quality education in public schools and universities."


If the boomers fucked it up so bad with "quality education" , then we totally are doomed given how education sucks today.



Tue, 04/26/2011 - 15:45 | 1208754 flattrader
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>>>When you and your generation get out in the streets and riot like the boomers did in the 60's then I will listen to this crap.<<<

I still love a good riot...[and I've been on both sides of the line.]

The above was just crybaby bullshit.

I have one thing to say to little sniveling fucks like him:



Tue, 04/26/2011 - 17:14 | 1209188 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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working on getting my ticket to NYC. Viva la revolucion, bitchez! Speak up, fight back, or shut the fuck up and die with the rest of the sheep!

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 16:13 | 1208923 Sean7k
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What is the point of this drivel? The Mighty Quinn thinks he can lay the blame at the feet of a single generation? His ignorance of economic and political history are mindboggling.

There is no benefit, beyond division, in attempting to fix the blame for today on anyone. The Elites that manage the people and governments of the world are not generational- they are dynastic. They do not belong to a country, they have allegiance to wealth and the exercise of power for the benefit of a few.

There has never been a difference between party or candidates. They have always been presented as a choice, when in reality, they have voted the same regardless of affiliation. Check the logs- there is a 1% difference between Democrat and Republican on business. The great compromise? A 400 million budget cut. Even if you accept the 38 billion, they POMO that and more every day.

FDR? Stack the court FDR? Socialism FDR? Unnecessary war- bailout Britain FDR? Maybe he means Truman. Nuclear weapon Truman- though completely unnecessary? Marshall Plan Truman? The money spent not on rebuilding, but on US gold transfers, CIA programs, Political instability and regime change? That Truman? Maybe Eisenhower. The one who warned us about the military-industrial complex- while he supported all their spending during his regime.

Maybe Johnson, who balloned the debt with the Vietnam war after he signed off on the assasination of Kennedy. Nixon? Who took us off the gold standard and started us down the fiat trail? Carter, Reagan and Bush I. Need I go on?

Don't get me started on the Morgans and Rockefellers and all the machinations of the teens and twenties- including JP on the board of the World Bank when the US was intent on not being a part of it- as stated policy.

Quinn the quisling needs to get his head out of his rectal nirvana and study history. There is only one group that runs the planet and they don't share power with anyone.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 20:56 | 1209769 i-dog
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+1 (and I'll be proud to share your junks!).

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 21:00 | 1209785 Sean7k
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+1 for your post above as well. Just hope people will do the research for themselves.

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 22:44 | 1210044 FeralSerf
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That's pretty much the conclusions I came up with.  Well said!

Tue, 04/26/2011 - 13:38 | 1208311 Ferg .
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Always a pleasure to read the ruminations of Jim Quinn  .

And a special thank you for this particularly colourful line :


"It will be a great day when the python craps this pig of a generation out the other end."


Epic .


Tue, 04/26/2011 - 14:50 | 1208597 macholatte
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This author is completely full of shit! He talks out of at least 2 sides of his mouth. He makes this claim:

Over the last few weeks there seems to be consensus among many financial bloggers, whose credibility is far more trustworthy than the corporate mainstream media, that the country is teetering on the verge of economic collapse due to the complete capture of the government, financial, regulatory, and media by a small group of oligarchs

then says this:

There are supposed to be courageous, loyal and honest sheriffs that protect the citizens from crime, corruption and evil doers.

Then he moves on to play the blame game and nail everyone who got sucker punched as the perpetrator. Like nobody under the age of 40 bought a house he couldn't afford or has a credit card. Quinn is arrogant, totally self serving and egotistical and ignorant of history. He clearly sings the mantra of Robert Reich and the new "Only Me" generation seeking to save himself at the expense of all those who came before him. Of course he desperately wants his parents to drop dead soon so he will get whatever they have left and free him to live the life he deserves. 


Tue, 04/26/2011 - 15:41 | 1208794 gmrpeabody
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The blame game = divide and conquer.

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