Guest Post: A Fistful Of Dollars - Part Two

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Sun, 05/01/2011 - 15:36 | 1225816 FunkyMonkeyBoy
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Still waiting for the uprising of the U.S. citizenry against the obvious criminal perpetrators... wonder how long i'll be waiting for? I'm sure it won't be long now, after all, it is the self-proclaimed land of the brave, home of the free... they won't tolerate this tyranny for long i'm sure.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 15:49 | 1225845 chunga
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This is getting so out of control. Look at this filthy prick from AZ.

SB 1259 | Now this is Getting Ridiculous – AZ Rep. Carl Seel Drops Amendment 2 Days After Servicer Grants 56% Principal Reduction

Second term rep. [R] for those keeping score.

Outright - in your face - bribery.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 16:00 | 1225867 CH1
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The masses will remain asleep (or at least in their beds faking) until they can't.

If we're lucky, that moment comes sooner rather than later.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 16:12 | 1225889 chunga
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I wish I could post his picture. He looks like something you'd find rummaging through a trash can.

FWIW...I'll be be calling. Here's his number -- (602) 926-3018

Here's his email cseel@azleg.gov

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:32 | 1228680 Harlequin001
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'It is not easy to destroy the greatest empire in the history of mankind. The 20th Century was the American Century, but as with all empires, the combination of hubris...'

Empire, what empire?

You never had a fucking empire, you've simply spent the last 80 years funding the British Commonwealth and trying to buy friends in the middle east.

You don't know the meaning of the word. In what country did you install your government or an arm of it, or do you consider anyone who ever said good morning or blatantly took your cash for free to be part of your 'empire'?

Absolute drivel I'm afraid, it started off badly and didn't get any better...

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 16:05 | 1225874 markelshark
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The US citizenry will only begin to wake up when the majority can no longer pay their cable bills and are forced to digest a world not filtered, distracted and entertained by mainstream media.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 16:17 | 1225895 Gold 36000
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Burn it down.  Burn everything down.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 18:57 | 1226145 serotonindumptruck
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Fire/arson has been used as a weapon of war for millennia.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:01 | 1226440 I Got Worms
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Ripley: Nuke it from orbit. :Ripley

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 16:28 | 1225913 WeekendAtBernankes
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Sickening.  Welcome to the End Game.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 17:00 | 1225946 chunga
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ZH is one heck of a bully pulpit and it's a privilege to participate. Seel/OCWEN should be singled out and forced to pay a price. A big one.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 16:16 | 1225891 Gold 36000
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Let's get the revolution started.  Time to twittter their asses.  That will sure show 'em.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 17:01 | 1225952 lynnybee
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I just sent out an S.O.S. to my friends to join me in revolution.   I included this article for their education & added a note in my email that our children & grandchildren are going to have a shit life if we don't revolt with pitchforks & rope. ................. no one emailed me back !   I'm sitting here with my sturdy shoes & my pitchfork & none of my friends give a damn.     I wish I didn't care so much, my friends either don't understand or they don't care.    

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 18:05 | 1226023 chunga
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Lynnybee - I'm not sure if you are referencing the op or the "Seel Deal".

(State Rep. poised to vote on foreclosure related legislation and *poof* gets himself a principal reduction of more than 50 percent...from OCWEN!!!???)

Seems like a slam dunk to me. I know what you mean by people not caring. It is frustrating. And many of those who do seem to care...are busying caring about things that don't matter.

My initial thoughts are to call Seel, the AZ AG, AZ reporters, etc.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 05:55 | 1228573 Snidley Whipsnae
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"caring about things that don't matter" ... is part of the bread and circus.

One merely ask one's self the simple question "How does this 'news' article effect my life?'

Ignore that which does not effect your life and concentrate on the things that do effect your life.

Sounds easy but it isn't untill the boob tube is turned off.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 02:02 | 1228346 Dugald
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 "I wish I didn't care so much, my friends either don't understand or they don't care".   

Reality can be quite sobering. I applaude your sentiment.

There is that bit that goes...Evil prevails when good men look the other way....Trouble is I have always had a problem with the good men bit.

It is time for the falling blade an tumbrils...but you won't do it, too many will just turn their heads, not wanting to recognise stark reality.

There is a moment in a mans life, if taken at the flood leads on to greater things. Is this YOU....

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 17:09 | 1225960 smlbizman
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have you seen the lazy fat fucks....they can't even raise up out of their smashed recliner....you think these fucks are going to lead the needed revolution...our only choice is to take care of our own..you know like we used to....we will never rise up as one...that courage has been stripped away from the majority....

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:23 | 1226223 Zero Govt
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Lynnybee

your moment has come, your friends moment will come... you have to wait for the economy to go down again, your friends attitude will sour and anger with it ...and when we're near bottom, send your email again before they beat you to it themselves! 

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:46 | 1226348 Zero Govt
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Smilbizmn

for revolution we need only to stop paying our taxes, very simple even for a couch potato ....the people and small business and not all but far fewer than you imagine, maybe 5-10% would be enough to topple this sham ediface that masks parasites behind another sham, the word "democracy"

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:41 | 1226617 Oracle of Kypseli
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Unfortunately the parasites (40% or more) do not pay taxes and they have no incentive. A true return to constitutional republic will force them to go to work, even though they may not have to pay taxes still.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 22:34 | 1227055 johnnynaps
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Unfortunately, you both missed the "double catch"! One says stop paying taxes while the other demonizes "the parasites"! The parasites are doing their job! Not paying taxes and bleeding the BEAST dry. Why attack them? You can't beat them, join!

I paid a shit-load of taxes for years only to be spit on and watch my tax money bailout the wealthy corrupt. Now, I'm happily on unenjoyment getting my tax money back! So, what does that make me? Parasite, Revolutionary, or Patriot? Doesn't matter, happy to be rid of the ever-expanding work week with declining wages that supports unethical, rich assholes. Trading it in for a second paid summer on the beach, watching babes drinking Margaritasssssss!!!!!!!

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 04:09 | 1228511 Zero Govt
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Oracle, the "Constitutional Republic" was set up by top dog parasites, that's precisely what government is whatever label you put on it, whatever string of lovely but ultimately vacuous words you sugar coat it in. The 40% of parasites that pay no tax is called socialism.

The only solution is a free society. This gives you the power to decide who you give charity too rather than the wishful thinking of giving your power to a parsitical organisation, entrusting it to rob you of your income and give away your money wisely (no chance).

Govt is the problem, not the solution... it's also the dumbest idea and most corrupt lie society has ever swallowed 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 09:59 | 1229234 Harlequin001
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No one has the right to steal from you, not govt nor anyone else, yet if I make two staff unemployed I am outvoted and they have the right and the ability to vote for anyone who proposes to take what's rightfully mine in the name of the govt and hand it to them on a plate.

It's still theft. Socialism should be called what it is, legalised robbery.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 10:26 | 1229386 SoNH80
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Whatever you want to call it, this shithouse is going up in flames, and everyone's going to get singed to one degree or another. 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 10:52 | 1229519 Harlequin001
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Not me, I don't live there...

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:02 | 1230418 SoNH80
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Ah, so you live on the planet Mercury I take it?

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 13:17 | 1230471 Harlequin001
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Good point, I'll give you that, but no...

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 18:20 | 1226050 Debt is Slavery
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I agree.  The more people get squeezed, the facade gets washed away.  People know they're getting raped, the blindfold just makes it hard to see who's doing it.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 15:32 | 1225820 Silver Bug
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"The dollar crisis is upon us. Congress and President Obama are avoiding the day of reckoning."

They can avoid no longer, the day of reckoning is here, we were in the eye of the hurricane (entering in 07/08) now we are stepping back in. They won't stop printing fiat money into oblivion. Therefore we know the ending. Peace will come when we end up back on a Hard asset monetary system, whether that be oil, gold, silver or a combination. We inevitably, will end up there.

 

http://silverliberationarmy.blogspot.com/

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 16:27 | 1225909 bothsidesnow
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Quinn has a fix for the dollar crisis, exterminate the Boomers, and poof away goes the future liabilties and the dollar rallies.

I'm not sure but I think if you add up all the hard assets the Boomers have helped to create and the hard assets the government owns it exceeds the 14 trillion debt.

Last time I checked net worth was part of the credit worthiness equation and faith in the currency.

Like I said Quinn it's your generation that created HFT, algo's, quants, etc, etc. Because you were raised on a joystick and in a fake reality. So get your generation back into the real world and out of the world of bits and bytes and everything will be just fine.

 

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 17:39 | 1225990 topcallingtroll
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We will do it.

In return we ask you boomers to quit piling debt on our children. Cut social security and medicare ten percent now. Raise the retirement age for full bennies to 67 as of may 1 2011. Everyone should contribute. The austerity should not be just for those under 55.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 18:10 | 1226032 lynnybee
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 " Quinn has a fix for the dollar crisis, exterminate the Boomers, and poof away goes the future liabilties and the dollar rallies."

  !! now they want me dead & gone !! ~~ I remember a time when I was loved & adored !  oh, about 20 years ago in my 40's when I was busy making that all-American family, raising kids, buying all the things that kids needed, going to TOYS R US & making sure that my children had a Christmas, spending money on houses & cars & car insurance when my kids were teenagers; I remember when I was beloved for paying all that social security taxes into the system ( you all remember when GREENSPAN doubled the social security tax on the boomers in 1983 right ? ) , paying all that Federal Income Tax (fraud) into the system.     They loved me at the car dealership when I sat there & helped my teens each buy their first car, you know, good old Mom kicks in the downpayment ..........

They used to love me !  I was beloved when my wallet was open to pay for toys, cars, house, insurances, school fees, back to school clothes, more toys, more clothes, property taxes, more insurances for teenage drivers.......... BLAH !

NOW THAT I AM OLDER THEY WANT ME DEAD !      the entire situation is outrageous.  

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:55 | 1226422 Bicycle Repairman
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Don't worry lynnybee nobody is kicking the boomers to the curb.  We are the largest voting block and we have one thing on our mind.  Gen X and Gen Y are going to pony up the full cost of our retirements or they're going to face the full force of the "state". Start messing with SS and the boomers will look for a demagogue to set things right.  By any means necessary.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:10 | 1226477 topcallingtroll
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You have just proven the authors point about how selfish you are.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:39 | 1226609 Bicycle Repairman
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I've paid SS for 40 years.  I put up with Nixon doubling benefits with his bogus inflation formula.  I paid extra because Greedscam wanted to fill an imaginary "lock box".  I got socked again in the early 90s when Ted "Chappaquidick" Kennedy removed the limit on medicare wages.  The most regressive tax of all.

I've paid property taxes to fund the gold-plated education of Gen X and Gen Y.  Why did I do that?  Because you are all the unique "snowflakes" that mommy said you were?  No.  I wanted you to get educated and productive so you could contribute to this country's social contract.

As it turns out the laugh is on me, because I got too educated, made too much money and saved too much.  My SS will be taxed away.  But I have friends and family who tried, but couldn't.  So you're paying.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:46 | 1226640 topcallingtroll
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Maybe not.

You assume the system cant implode?

I am just about to the point to quit producing anyway. Hard to tax my idleness and tax exempt bonds.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 22:25 | 1227005 Bicycle Repairman
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Tax exempt bonds?  You are already living off the taxing authority of the state you god-damned phony.  I suppose you inherited them, you freaking fraud.  And you've admitted this.  How stupid are you?

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 22:38 | 1227096 johnnynaps
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Not me buddy! Coming from a Generation X'er who sees this system for what it is.......unethical, corrupt, immoral, prejudiced, unConstitutional, unfair and really ass-backwards silly! Almost like war, I'm on my second campaign of unenjoyment in the last 8 years, only this campaign was logistically planned better. Call it, getting my money back.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:03 | 1226446 topcallingtroll
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So your solution is to pile debt on children too young to vote. All of you are proving the point about your selfishness.

Future generations will know the progeny of the greatest generation became the most selfish generation of all.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:01 | 1226450 topcallingtroll
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So your solution is to pile debt on children too young to vote. All of you are proving the point about your selfishness.

Future generations will know the progeny of the greatest generation became the most selfish generation of all.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:03 | 1226459 topcallingtroll
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So your solution is to pile debt on children too young to vote. All of you are proving the point about your selfishness. Future generations will know the progeny of the greatest generation became the most selfish generation of all.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:41 | 1226622 Bicycle Repairman
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"Future generations will know the progeny of the greatest generation became the most selfish generation of all."

Not likely.  We'll buy toys for our grandchildren with your money.  We'll be fondly remembered.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 23:25 | 1232760 DrunkenMonkey
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You seem to conveniently forget that the governments you elected (and whose tax demands you paid) were always running at a loss (i.e. spending more than they took in, in taxes). So your generation spent more than it earned.

Better suck it up 'cos Gen X and Y will emigrate or stop paying taxes rather than suffer your gen's entitlement complex.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 20:40 | 1226599 malek
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Pick your numbers as they suit you! You think the hard assets also exceed the $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities? Oh, I forgot, if you exterminate the Boomers, (most of) the liabilities go away too. That could actually work!

But on the other hand, we don't need to exterminate them, just cut their entitlements to zero. Much more humane, and also makes the debt situation manageable again.

Note: Who finds irony in this text may keep it.

Propaganda 101: Who doesn't like an opinion declares the speaker to be a non-person / beast / vermin. When are you going to take that step, BSN?

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 15:52 | 1225825 DavidPierre
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OMG:

The 9-11Moron is back spewing Hollywood fantasies and pop culture nonsense ... attempting to develop more hits from fellow idiots to his obscene and racist blog @ www.TheBestialityPlatform.com

Jesus ...SmokeyQuinn you are sounding more and more like Reverse Engineer all the time.  Give it a break already with the cut and paste BS.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 15:56 | 1225863 purplefrog
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So what part is nonsense and what part is racist?  Edify please.

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 19:06 | 1226144 DavidPierre
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You might try to do some DD into the background of writers that post on ZH.

Go on over to Quinn's blog and check out all the Racist and obscene shit that he posts and encourages.

#495628

From 07/30/2010 on ZH

SmokeyQuinn has subsequently deleted this 30 Blocks of Squalor thread off  his blog.  Ask him about it ... when you got the time.

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 07:30 | 1228690 gordengeko
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DP, btw thanks for the backround on Quinn.  My opinion on all that is, personally I don't care too much if he molested sheep, has childish responses that would seem to discredit his material or calls us anarchists.  Material is material and at this stage in the game we could use more help getting knowledge out.  Whether some of the stuff is plagerized is irrelevant because this type of info needs to be out there regardless of where it came from or who was the originator.  It's quite obvious we are in the end game and are severly outnumbered.  We should look past petty shit and just focus on the issues and what we can do going forward.

Quinn, are you going to also provde a plan on (in your opinion) of what are our options are or what the average person can do?  It's great to give doom and gloom knowledge to people that don't know whats going on but we need to tie in how the average person can help fix it.  Otherwise they feel helpless and won't realize it is because of their ignorance (partly) by contributing to these companies and the system that they are able to get away with this shit. 

Mon, 05/02/2011 - 08:29 | 1228841 laurie
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This DP (David Pierre) guy is a liar who hates Jim Quinn and copies and pastes stuff that others have written to make it look like Quinn wrote it. He stalks Quinn and tries to destroy his reputation. Quinn is not a racist. DP is, in fact, a liar.

 

Sun, 05/01/2011 - 16:57 | 1225943 UnRealized Reality
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I agree this guy is a fucking loser and I don't know why ZH even post his Bullshit. He think every body who doesn't produce should be killed so his own arrogant ass can wreck all the benefits. What a twit.

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