Guest Post: Four Charts: Shanghai, S&P 500, U.S. Dollar And The Dow

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Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:11 | 1466661 spartan117
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First three charts look fairly similar, yet you give a bullish bias to the dollar.  Why? 

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:18 | 1466687 qussl3
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Mon, 07/18/2011 - 15:54 | 1467726 Voodoo-economist
Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:21 | 1466698 I am a Man I am...
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it would be more obvious with a longer timeline

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:38 | 1466764 chartcruzer
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for example here's ,,,  china,  note the PSAR sell signal[s218729033]&disp=P

but, note the weakest country group if you want to go short = europe (europe has the debt issue)[s235660699]&disp=P

here's the europe chart[s218732180]&disp=P

the dollar has just thrown a long term buy,  note the reliability of the psar signal.[s218820698]&disp=P

also note the euro has been on sell for some time now[s218921789]&disp=P

happy trading....


Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:40 | 1466767 chartcruzer
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dupe  opps

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 16:01 | 1467755 Highrev
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I also agree. Longer term would be good, especially when you're talking about long term secular trends like these:

1) China will continue booming for decades
2) U.S. equities will continue soaring as profits continue rising
3) The U.S. dollar will continue heading down because Bernanke wills it to do so

I would say that something like this might be more appropriate:




Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:24 | 1466711 snowball777
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That might have something to do with the first two charts being identical (Shanghai twice, no S&P).

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:31 | 1466733 French Frog
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glad that someone else spotted that too; anyone trading will have instantly 'seen' that this wasn't the s&p but that's not to say that the s&p's chart isn't ugly too)!

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:42 | 1467046 greased up deaf guy
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click on the "of two minds" link at the top of this page to see the s&p chart on chs's blog.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:45 | 1466773 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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First three charts look fairly similar, yet you give a bullish bias to the dollar.  Why?


Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:49 | 1467075 Toolshed
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Methinks the bullishness on the dollar is due to the law of relativity. Compared to most other major currencies, the dollar looks pretty good.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:15 | 1466665 lolmao500
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Any good Italian-Spain bond short ETF? That could make us some good money real soon.

And all those ``technical analysis`` don't work right now, haven't been working for the last 3 years because of all the shenanigans the governments and the FED have been pulling.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:13 | 1466671 InconvenientCou...
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set up well for more fiat largesse. Just a little more misery should do it.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:14 | 1466676 baserunr
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The obvious story is that Recovery Summer is here!  Again! Still!


Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:36 | 1466755 kito
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as long as those stocks keep heading north, the people are happy. calpers kicking ass!!!

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:15 | 1466680 Cycle
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I think the author meant to post SPX rather than SSEC twice, but the point is valid. I keep looking at long term cycle charts for the DJIA (and the FTSE) and either the cycle models are dubious, or we seem to be at the cusp of a major multi-year drop in equity markets.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:19 | 1466692 Cpl Hicks
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Those charts did look mighty similar, did they not?

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:16 | 1466682 lolmao500
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S&P Cuts Bank of Ireland UK Government Bond Rating to A- from A+

More fun.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:23 | 1466704 shushup
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He gave us the Shanghai chart twice instead of the SPX

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:23 | 1466707 Stoploss
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Descending wedges, all of them. All you need to know.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:26 | 1466719 Tense INDIAN
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I just cant wait till tomorrows OPening of the Indian markets ...

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:40 | 1466770 Stoploss
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Japan was closed today. So far not a peep about it. Guess who gets to play catch up tomorrow. That ought to kill that little 1/2 B pomo tomorrow as well.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:32 | 1466722 Oh regional Indian
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We are "In Irons" ladies and gentlemen. Before the ill winds blow, our sails will have little to give us steerage by. That is why so many earth shaking events have happened in this window.

It's all as metaphorical as it is real. Temporary rise in PM's aside, it'll be all down together in a bit, for a bit. Hard.

I'd take a partial profit in metals and sit in cash for a bit.

Dollar cost out over the next 3-4 days. After the 21st, we're in Leo and everyone know's of Cliff high's Sun disease! 


Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:35 | 1467016 gmrpeabody
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I agree with you (on this, anyway). Good time to sell a third and wait.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 14:32 | 1467276 Oh regional Indian
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Respectful consent and dissent are equally welcome to the mix I'm sure gmr.

Glad we agree on something important.


Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:29 | 1466726 Saxxon
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The '08 crash lost the Republicans the White House. Do you think the current Administration will make the same mistake? Do you think they don't have the ability to keep pumping equities with helium, dropping Corexit on RE and airbrushing the news?

I suggest you think again. This Admin has more control over media and markets than any other beast that has slouched out of the hills.

Short at your peril.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:44 | 1466789 Stoploss
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It's long at your peril today, bud. (That is what im seeing there isn't it, a little bud?).

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:47 | 1466811 oldmanagain
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The administration is many months late on some basic Keynesian remedies.  It is true that the banking system needed immediate rescue but government so divided by ideology has not been able to do some very basic, tried and true, solutions to job contraction.  Now contraction is built in and the money was wasted on the banks.

A significant number of Zerohedge and leader want a collapse to rebuild some type of dictatorship of the non-taxable.  Depending on animal spirits to drop goodies in the mail box that no longer gets mail.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:03 | 1466878 i-dog
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"A significant number of Zerohedge and leader want a collapse to rebuild some type of dictatorship of the non-taxable"

Please post links to any ZH'er calling for any kind of dictatorship.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:22 | 1466951 malikai
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Agreed. But it doesn't sound like a bad idea to load up on some cheap puts. They will need an excuse for QE3, after all. Just sell the good ones off by mid August and it might be some decent change.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:31 | 1466730 SilverDoctors
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Maybe the DOW will continue an uptrend in FIAT terms...not in real value.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:32 | 1466736 Saxxon
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SilverDoctors; yep.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:35 | 1466753 SheepDog-One
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Well thats assuming those are the ONLY 2 factors going forward.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:31 | 1466734 Tense INDIAN
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theres no SnP 500 chart

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:32 | 1466740 RobotTrader
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Bernanke must be watching the XLF in utter horror.  I bet he has an iPad with the 15-min. chart of BAC on it right now.

Meanwhile, nothing to worry about with the high flyers as the "no-brainer" trade seems to be to short bank stocks and buy AAPL, FOSL, CMG, PNRA, etc.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:45 | 1466788 SheepDog-One
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The Bernank is looking on in horror? What happened to him going down as the greatest ever in history?

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:12 | 1466914 Dirtt
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7 come 11.

Roll the dice again Ben.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:33 | 1466741 JW n FL
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Israeli navy attacks intl. monitoring vessel in Gaza


Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:56PM

The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a U.S. Navy intelligence ship, USS Liberty, in international waters about 12.5 nautical miles (23 km) from the coast of the Sinai Peninsula, north of El Arish, by Israeli fighter planes and torpedo boats on June 8, 1967.


So! Let me Guess! Because Israel Behaves this way! I am a Nazi and its all my fault, right? Sure it is! Keep Up the GREAT WORK Israel!! Maybe you can kill a Lil Girl AGAIN! NEVER!! FORGET!!!

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:44 | 1467053 gmrpeabody
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I thought we were talking about bearish charts.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:56 | 1467103 JW n FL
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I am talking about the Israelis State that gives more Money to the United States Government than ALL of the Financial Sector Combined in Multiples!


You want Bearish Charts? wait until Israel drags us (The U.S.) into a War! or you can go with the Broken Window Hypothesis.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:34 | 1466749 lieutenantjohnchard
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my vote for the 5th chart is the one comparing jpm $39.35 versus silver $40.50. i like that chart.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:14 | 1466917 fuu
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Keep waiting for the beat down. I would have to go back but I think they were under about a week last time before the 5x margin hike in days bs happened.


jesus BAC is almost at par with SVU.


And all the crazies are out today which is a good sign of distraction/turfing.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:34 | 1466750 Eric Cartman
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I stopped reading after I noticed he used 3 indicators to identfy divergence. That is just paranoia. 

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:41 | 1466777 Fortunes Favor
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AUD/JPY Struggles Imply Risk Off / Liquidity Drain: Not Good For Equity Prices

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:45 | 1466795 newstreet
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If it were only this easy.


Carthago delenda est.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:46 | 1466798 Saxxon
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Israel/Iran is another false flag and affords B.O. another Hands-Across-The-Water shot at looking like a peacemaker.

Oh; and The Ceiling will be raised. 

Batten down for 500+ on the ol' DOW (from here) this week.

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:58 | 1466855 slaughterer
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The ceiling needs to be raised with substantial cuts in the government's budget.  If there are no substantial cuts, then Moody's and S&P will downgrade US debt one level even with a debt ceiling raise. 

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 12:52 | 1466830 Tense INDIAN
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He forgot to GIVE the SnP chart ....I may help here a bit ....After a long time ...looking at the SnP charts ...hope this helps...:::

SnP 500

Mon, 07/18/2011 - 13:47 | 1467069 gmrpeabody
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It really doesn't look broken..., YET!

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