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Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform

The Gathering Storm

“Still, if you will not fight for the
right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight
when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the
moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and
only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You
may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is
better to perish than to live as slaves.” –
Winston Churchill The Second World War

A butterfly flapped its wings in Tunisia
creating a hurricane that is swirling across the globe, wreaking havoc
with the existing social order and sweeping away old crumbling
institutions and dictatorships. The linear thinking politicians, pundits
and thought leaders have been knocked for a loop. They didn’t see it
coming and they don’t know where it’s leading. An examination and
understanding of history would have revealed that we have been here
before. We were here in 1773. We were here in 1860. We were here in
1929. We are here again. The Fourth Turning has returned in its
predictable cycle, just as Winter always follows Fall.   


Winston Churchill wrote the definitive history of World War II in
1948. His six volume history detailed the years from the end of World
War I through the unconditional surrender of the Axis powers in 1945.
Volume I in the series was The Gathering Storm.
It covered the second half of the Unraveling and the first ten years of
the last Fourth Turning Crisis period. The title fits perfectly with
the mood and inevitability of what was destined to occur. All Fourth
Turnings resemble Winter, with bitter cold options, biting winds of
change, dark days, and destructive storms. The seasons cannot be
averted. The Seasons of a year are predictable, as are the seasons of a
human life. We’ve entered the Crisis (Winter) season of the latest
Saeculum that began in 1946 and will climax sometime around 2025.

“Reflect on what happens when a terrible winter blizzard strikes.
You hear the weather warning but probably fail to act on it. The sky
darkens. Then the storm hits with full fury, and the air is a howling
whiteness. One by one, your links to the machine age break down.
Electricity flickers out, cutting off the TV. Batteries fade, cutting
off the radio. Phones go dead. Roads become impossible, and cars get
stuck. Food supplies dwindle. Day to day vestiges of modern civilization
– bank machines, mutual funds, mass retailers, computers, satellites,
airplanes, governments – all recede into irrelevance. Picture yourself
and your loved ones in the midst of a howling blizzard that lasts
several years. Think about what you would need, who could help you, and
why your fate might matter to anybody other than yourself. That is how
to plan for a saecular winter. Don’t think you can escape the Fourth
Turning. History warns that a Crisis will reshape the basic social and
economic environment that you now take for granted.”
– Strauss & Howe - The Fourth Turning

The generations are aligned in such a way that an event, incident,
or individual action that may have been disregarded or ignored ten years
ago will now trigger a worldwide conflagration. The Boston Massacre
occurred in1770 during Revolutionary Saeculum. Five colonists were
slaughtered by British troops. The mood of the generations was not ready
for a Crisis. It wasn’t until three years later that the Boston Tea
Party ignited a spark that started a revolution. John Brown’s raid on
Harper’s Ferry in 1859 was intended to start a revolution. The populace
was not ready. One year later, the election of Abraham Lincoln lit the
fuse on the most horrific war in modern history. America experienced a
sharp depression in 1920-1921. The country did not spiral into a decade
long downturn, culminating in a World War that killed 65 million people.
The generational dynamic was not aligned in a way that would lead to
that outcome. Instead, the roaring twenties commenced. On December 17,
2010 a man committed a seemingly inconsequential act that has ignited a
worldwide firestorm. 


The spark that has enflamed the planet was struck by a 26-year-old
Tunisian with a computer science degree named Mohamed Bouazizi, who
unable to feed his family, was not allowed by his government to even get
a permit to sell vegetables. Bouazizi publicly doused himself with
gasoline, lit a match, and burnt not only his own body, but enflamed
the consciousness of a world, and its inhabitants, being obliterated by
the corrupt wealthy elites who rule the planet. In less than a month
the brush fire started by this 26-year-old Tunisian had incinerated
the despotic government of his country and forced its
“president-for-life”, Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, to flee the country. The
people’s coup in Tunisia, called the Jasmine Revolution, has sent
shockwaves across the globe, spreading wildfires of freedom throughout
the Arab world.  The firestorm started by Bouazizi has brought down
Mubarak in Egypt and is lapping at the heals of Gaddafi in Libya.
Tyrants throughout the world are quivering with fear. The mood of the
people across the globe has turned dark and angry. The political class
and media are persistently surprised by the reaction of citizens to
events during the Fourth Turning.

Historians Robert Strauss and Neil Howe documented their generational theory in the 1997 book The Fourth Turning.
People who prefer blind ideology and believe human existence is a
straight line of progress scorn their work as fantasy and pure prophecy.
So called progressives misrepresent the theory as predicting the future
because they refuse to accept the fact that large groups of human
beings of a similar age and having common experiences react in similar
predictable ways. It irritates those with an unwavering belief in human
individuality. They prefer to ignore the numerous example of mass
hysteria throughout history. In just the last 10 years we have
experienced an internet boom and a housing boom that convinced millions
of Americans to act  simultaneously in a foolish manner . The theory is
so logical and measurable that even the most vacuous blond bubble head
on Fox News should understand it.

Strauss & Howe have been able to break Anglo-American history
into 80 to 100 year (a long human life) Saeculums going back to 1435.
Each Saeculum has four generations at different stages of their
lives.  A turning is an era with a characteristic social mood, a new
twist on how people feel about themselves and their nation.  It results
from the aging of the generational constellation.  A society enters a
turning once every twenty years or so, when all living generations begin
to enter their next phases of life.  Like archetypes and
constellations, turnings come four to a saeculum, and always in the same
order. In 1997, Strauss & Howe knew when the next Fourth Turning
would begin:

The next Fourth Turning is due to begin shortly after the new
millennium, midway through the Oh-Oh decade. Around the year 2005, a
sudden spark will catalyze a Crisis mood. Remnants of the old social
order will disintegrate. Political and economic trust will implode. Real
hardship will beset the land, with severe distress that could involve
questions of class, race, nation and empire. The very survival of the
nation will feel at stake. Sometime before the year 2025, America will
pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American
Revolution, Civil War, and twin emergencies of the Great Depression and
World War II.”
Strauss & Howe The Fourth Turning

They did not predict events that would ignite the next Fourth
Turning. It was how the generations reacted to the events that mattered.
The generational constellation is now in the once every 80 year
alignment that will lead to chaos, violent change, the sweeping away of
the existing social order, and likely war. Strauss & Howe answered
why this would happen fourteen years ago: 

“What will propel these events? As the saeculum turns, each of
today’s generations will enter a new phase of life, producing a Crisis
constellation of Boomer elders, midlife 13ers, young adult Millennials,
and children from the new Silent Generation. As each archetype asserts
its new social role, American society will reach its peak of potency.
The natural order givers will be elder Prophets, the natural order
takers young Heroes. The no-nonsense bosses will be midlife Nomads, the
sensitive souls the child Artists. No archetypal constellation can match
the gravitational power of this one – nor its power to congeal the
natural dynamic of human history into new civic purposes. And none can
match its potential power to condense countless arguments, anxieties,
cynicisms, and pessimisms into one apocalyptic storm.” –
Strauss & Howe The Fourth Turning

I believe my generation is about to experience a rendezvous with
destiny. Each generation’s life experiences have prepared them for this
hour and the trials that await them. The mood of the country has
shifted darkly into a crisis mode. The mainstream media pundits and
progressive politicians try to put a positive spin on today’s events,
when anyone with the ability to think can see that things will get
severely worse in the next ten years. Trust in our institutions,
politicians, corporate leaders, media and social order is

It’s a Matter of Trust

“An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding
responses and further emergencies. The core elements of these scenarios
(debt, civic decay, global disorder) will matter more than the details,
which the catalyst will juxtapose and connect in some unknowable way. If
foreign societies are also entering a Fourth Turning, this could
accelerate the chain reaction.” -
Strauss & Howe - The Fourth Turning


The initial spark that ignited this Fourth Turning was the collapse
of the housing market, which began in 2005 and continues today. Home
prices collapsed, the fraudulent mortgage loans blew up in the faces
of the Wall Street banks that birthed them, and millions of delusional
Americans lost their houses in foreclosure. The cascading impact of this
implosion brought the American empire of debt to its knees. On
September 18, 2008 the U.S. financial system came within hours of
complete collapse, as described by Congressman Paul Kanjorski on CPAN:

“On Thursday (Sept 18), at 11am the Federal Reserve noticed a
tremendous draw-down of money market accounts in the U.S., to the tune
of $550 billion was being drawn out in the matter of an hour or two. The
Treasury opened up its window to help and pumped a $105 billion in the
system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide. We were
having an electronic run on the banks. They decided to close the
operation, close down the money accounts and announce a guarantee of
$250,000 per account so there wouldn’t be further panic out there.

If they had not done that, their estimation is that by 2pm that
afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market
system of the U.S., would have collapsed the entire economy of the U.S.,
and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed. It would
have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we
know it.”

The implosion of the financial system was created by the actions of
the Wall Street financers that have been looting the country for
decades. They created mortgage products (no doc, liar loans, Alt-A,
negative amortization) designed to encourage people to commit fraud.
They purposely promoted this massive fraud because they had perfected
the art of derivatives. The issuers of these fraudulent mortgages bore
none of the risk from their guaranteed default. They packaged them into
MBOs and MBSs, bought AAA ratings from Moodys, and shilled them to
pension managers, insurance companies, municipalities, states, and
little old ladies. Then they bet against their own products with credit
default swaps. Their greed and avarice was so extreme, they leveraged
their own balance sheets 40 to 1 and then bought their own toxic waste.
When their MBA created models proved to be defective, the entire house
of cards collapsed. Strauss and Howe anticipated a financial catalyst
related to immense levels of debt would trigger the next Fourth Turning:

It is unlikely that the catalyst will worsen into a full-fledged
catastrophe, since the nation will probably find a way to avert the
initial danger and stabilize the situation for a while.

After the near collapse of the financial system in September 2008,
the authorities took unprecedented actions to avert a Second Great
Depression. Henry Paulson, the Goldman Sachs U.S. Treasury Secretary,
who had warned his own staff that a Wall Street derivative disaster
would happen, immediately reacted like a former Wall Street CEO. He
convinced his Harvard MBA boss, George W. Bush, that the only way to
save the country was to fork over $700 billion to the Wall Street banks
that created the manmade disaster. When Congress initially voted down
this banker bribe, Wall Street showed who was boss by crashing the
market by 777 points in one day. The bought off politicians in
Washington DC then towed the line and passed TARP.

The two and one half years since September 2008 have set the stage
for a far worse catastrophe. The Obama administration jammed an $800
billion pork filled stimulus bill down the throats of America, along
with home buyer tax credits, loan modification programs, and a
healthcare plan that will crush small businesses. The politicians,
government bureaucrats, and mainstream media corporate mouthpieces
proclaim that their wise and prompt actions averted a Second Great
Depression. The government solutions used to “stabilize” the
situation have wrought unintended consequences and planted the seeds of
further pain and suffering to come. A summary of what has happened in
the last few years is in order:

  • On September 18, 2008 the National Debt stood at $9.66
    trillion. Today it stands at $14.16 trillion, a 47% increase in 2 1/2
  • The country is running $1.5 trillion annual deficits and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
  • The States are running cumulative budget deficits of $130 billion in
    FY11 and expect deficits of $112 billion in FY12. This is leading to
    conflicts with unions, higher taxes and mass layoffs of government
  • The working age population has risen by 5 million, while the number
    of employed Americans has declined by 6.5 million. The true unemployment
    rate has risen from 12% to 22%. 
  • In September 2008 there were 30.8 million Americans on food stamps.
    Today there are 44 million Americans on food stamps (14% of the U.S.
    population), a 43% increase in 2 1/2 years. The annual cost has risen
    by $37 billion, a 100% increase in 2 1/2 years.  
  • Real inflation bottomed at 5% in early 2009, but has accelerated to 9% today, with further increases baked in the cake.
  • Gasoline prices bottomed out at $1.61 per gallon in January 2009 and
    have risen to $3.54 per gallon today, a 120% increase in just over two
  • Households have lost $6.3 trillion of real estate related wealth
    since the peak of the housing market. Home prices have fallen for six
    straight months.
  • Almost 3 million homes have been lost to foreclosure since 2007.
  • There are 11.1 million households, or 23.1% of all mortgaged homes,
    underwater on their mortgages today, with rates above 50% in Nevada,
    Arizona, California, and Michigan.
  • Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were taken over by the US government and
    have lost $170 billion of taxpayer funds so far. Losses are expected to
    reach $400 billion. Along with the FHA, they continue to prop up a dead
    housing market with more bad loans.
  • The Federal Reserve balance sheet in September 2008 consisted
    of $895 billion of US Treasury bonds. Today it totals $2.55 trillion of
    toxic mortgages bought from Wall Street banks and Treasury bonds being
    bought under QE2.
  • The Federal Reserve and the Treasury Dept. intimidated the FASB into
    allowing Wall Street banks to account for worthless mortgage and real
    estate loans as fully collectible. Magically, insolvent banks became
    solvent – on paper.
  • The Dow Jones was 11,700 in late August 2008 and today stands at
    12,000. The Dow has risen 84% from its March 2009 low. The top 1%
    wealthiest Americans own 40% of all the stocks in America, so they are
    feeling much better.
  • In late 2007, a risk averse senior citizen could get a 5% return on a
    6 month CD. Today, after two years of no increases in their Social
    Security payments, a senior citizen can “earn” .38% on a 6 month CD.
  • The Federal Reserve lowered interest rates to 0% in order to allow
    the Wall Street banks to borrow for free and earn billions without risk.
  • Over 300 smaller banks have been closed by the FDIC, with losses
    exceeding $50 billion. There are another 900 banks on the verge of
    insolvency, with estimated future losses of $100 billion.
  • The Federal Reserve initiated QE2 in November 2010, purchasing $70
    billion per month of  Treasury bonds and attempting to create a stock
    market rally. They have succeeded in creating a tsunami of energy, food,
    and commodity price inflation across the globe, sparking revolutions
    among the desperately poor in the Middle East. 
  • Wall Street banks “earned” record profits of $19 billion in 2010
    after nearly destroying the worldwide financial system in 2008 and
    raping the American taxpayer in 2009.
  • No Wall Street executive has been prosecuted for the fraudulent actions committed by their banks.
  • Wall Street banks handed out $43.3 billion in bonuses in 2009/2010
    for a job well done. The average Wall Street employee received a
    $128,000 bonus in 2010. In 2008, the year they crashed the financial
    system, they still doled out $17.6 billion in bonuses.
  • The median household income in 2007 was $52,163. Today the median
    household income is $46,326, an 11% decline in three years. Real average
    weekly earnings are lower today than they were in 1971.   

It is clear from the list above that the oligarchic players that
wield the power in this country have chosen to prop up their tottering
structure of debt-created-wealth on the backs of the working middle
class. The people who have been screwed and continue to be screwed are
growing angry and distrustful, as anticipated by Strauss & Howe:

“But as the Crisis mood congeals, people will come to the jarring
realization that they have grown helplessly dependent on a teetering
edifice of anonymous transactions and paper guarantees. Many Americans
won’t know where their savings are, who their employer is, what their
pension is, or how their government works. The era will have left the
financial world arbitraged and tentacled: Debtors won’t know who holds
their notes, homeowners who owns their mortgages, and shareholders who
runs their equities – and vice versa.”

The continuing foreclosure crisis has proven that the financial
industry’s sole purpose in creating subprime loans, liar loans, Alt-A
loans and packaging them into tranches with fake AAA ratings  to be sold
off to whatever sucker they could find was to enrich themselves with no
care about the future consequences. The owners of the debt can’t prove
they own the debt. Lawsuits clog up the court system. Deadbeats occupy
houses for longer than two years without making a mortgage payment. Wall
Street has created so many complex confusing financial products in
their greedy thirst for fees that Harvard MBAs can’t even figure out the
mess they have created. The $1.4 quadrillion of outstanding derivatives
is truly a weapon of mass worldwide destruction waiting to be
triggered. The fraudulent actions of Wall Street, the lies told to the
American people by government bureaucrats about the solutions needed,
the overstep and obfuscation committed by Ben Bernanke, and the
propaganda fed to the masses by the corporate mainstream have destroyed
the remaining trust in our institutions. Distrust grows by the day, as
Strauss and Howe foresaw in 1997:

“As the Crisis catalyzes, these fears will rush to the surface,
jagged and exposed. Distrustful of some things, individuals will feel
that their survival requires them to distrust more things. This behavior
could cascade into a sudden downward spiral, an implosion of societal

The growing distrust of financial and governmental institutions was
reflected in the angry and sometimes violent town hall meetings with
Congressmen during the healthcare debate. An angry on-air rant by
financial reporter Rick Santelli ignited the Tea Party movement that
eventually swept dozens of candidates into office in a Republican
landslide in the 2010 mid-term elections. Societal trust in promises
made by politicians is ripping apart. The entitlement benefit promises
can’t be kept. Senior citizen and government union beneficiaries are
angry. Younger generations don’t want to be left with debt so older
generations can have comfortable 25 year retirements. Taxpayers don’t
want to pay higher taxes to support gold plated healthcare and pension
plans for government union workers. The decades of compromise, denial,
apathy and lethargy are over. The mood of the country has changed
dramatically. Survival of the country is at stake.  

Volcanic Eruption

“America’s short-term Crisis psychology will catch up to the
long-term post-Unraveling fundamentals. This might result in a Great
Devaluation, a severe drop in the market price of most financial and
real assets. This devaluation could be a short but horrific panic, a
free-falling price in a market with no buyers. Or it could be a series
of downward ratchets linked to political events that sequentially knock
the supports out from under the residual popular trust in the system. As
assets devalue, trust will further disintegrate, which will cause
assets to devalue further, and so on. Every slide in asset prices,
employment, and production will give every generation cause to grow more
alarmed. With savings worth less, the new elders will become more
dependent on government, just as government becomes less able to pay
benefits to them.” -
Strauss & Howe – The Fourth Turning

The country has withstood the initial onslaught of this latest Fourth
Turning. The Great Devaluation resulted in a 50% stock market crash and
a 30% decline in home values. Rather than allowing home values to fall
to their fair value, the government used tax credits and loan
modification programs to prop up home prices. Rather
than liquidating insolvent Wall Street banks in an orderly bankruptcy,
the government and Federal Reserve chose to use accounting gimmicks and
borrowed taxpayer funds to save those who had taken excessive risks and
reaped hundreds of billions in profits. The government has
systematically ”adjusted” every economic statistic in order to paint the
most optimistic view possible. Unemployment, inflation, government
debt, and GDP are all manipulated in the most positive light.

Many people understand that you cannot solve a debt problem by
issuing more debt. They understand that politicians have overpromised
Social Security and Medicare benefits to the tune of $100 trillion. They
understand that if you cover 30 million more people in your healthcare
system, it will cost hundreds of billions more. They understand that
mega-corporations have shipped their manufacturing jobs overseas, and
they aren’t coming back. They understand spending $800 billion per year,
policing the world, fighting two wars of choice, with hundreds of
military bases across the globe is unsustainable. They understand that
running $1.5 trillion deficits will eventually result in a collapse of
the U.S. dollar. They understand that an individual or a country cannot
borrow their way to prosperity. The U.S. government is essentially
bankrupt and dependent upon Ben Bernanke’s printing press to keep up the
appearance of solvency.

Fingers of tension and instability run through every aspect of
American society. Pressure is building beneath the surface. The last
year and a half have proven to be a liquidity driven lull. The
appearance of stability does not mean our situation has stabilized. The
actions of those in power have created a vastly more dangerous scenario
for the next decade. The volcano is erupting and the lava is flowing
along the channels of distress, as described by Strauss & Howe:

Imagine some national (and probably global) volcanic eruption,
initially flowing along channels of distress that were created during
the Unraveling era and further widened by the catalyst. Trying to
foresee where the eruption will go once it bursts free of the channels
is like trying to predict the exact fault line of an earthquake. All you
know in advance is something about the molten ingredients of the
climax, which could include the following:

  • Economic distress, with public debt in default, entitlement
    trust funds in bankruptcy, mounting poverty and unemployment, trade
    wars, collapsing financial markets, and hyperinflation (or deflation)
  • Social distress, with violence fueled by class, race, nativism,
    or religion and abetted by armed gangs, underground militias, and
    mercenaries hired by walled communities
  • Political distress, with institutional collapse, open tax
    revolts, one-party hegemony, major constitutional change, secessionism,
    authoritarianism, and altered national borders
  • Military distress, with war against terrorists or foreign regimes equipped with weapons of mass destruction 

Strauss & Howe did not predict specific events that would occur
during the next Fourth Turning. As trained historians and economists,
they simply analyzed the environment created by our leaders over the
last few decades. If the thought leaders in the country had not been
blinded by their ideological biases, they would have seen that the next
Fourth Turning Crisis would be channeled by un-payable debt obligations,
reckless financial schemes, religious ideology, political corruption,
class warfare, foreign conflicts, and terrorism. The molten ingredients
are travelling along the channels outlined above. What happens next is
anybody’s guess. 

The economic distress worsens for the average American every day. The
recovery propaganda circulated by the power elite through the mass
media is a fraud. Only those with wealth and power have recovered. The
middle class sinks further into poverty and despair. Unemployment
remains at Depression levels and the entire economic faux recovery rests
with Ben Bernanke’s printing press. The only question that remains is
whether the United States experiences a deflationary collapse or a
hyper-inflationary collapse. The country is currently experiencing
stagflation as the things we need (energy, food, clothing) inflate,
while wages stagnate and our home values deflate. Bernanke and his
minions at the Federal Reserve will choose inflation as their poison
because it will allow their banker masters to pilage the remaining
wealth of the middle class before the final collapse of the U.S. dollar.

Social distress has manifested itself over the last year in Arizona
as the illegal immigration issue has turned violent, with State
government and Federal government in conflict. The social welfare net is
being strained through the payment of billions in unemployment
compensation, food stamps, and other welfare programs. When this net
breaks, all hell will break loose in the decaying urban Mecca’s.
Political distress is at historic levels as the Tea Party
battles liberals and its own neo-con Republican establishment. States
are refusing to implement the Federally mandated Obamacare. Governors
are battling teacher’s unions, firemen unions, and police unions in an
effort to regain control of their out of control budgets. The 2012
elections could prove to be a tipping point for the country.

Military distress is already extreme, even before a major conflict is
thrust upon the country. The two wars of choice in the Middle East
have drained trillions from the treasury of a declining empire. The all
volunteer military has been stretched to the breaking point. The
multi-billion dollar high tech weaponry has proven useless against
“terrorists” who fade into mountains until they can strike again. As
revolution erupts across the Middle East, the U.S. is helpless and has
no credibility, as they have propped up the thugs and dictators who are
slaughtering their people. The daily  intensification of volcanic
eruptions across the globe is clearly evident to all but the most linear
thinkers. We’ve entered the Fourth Turning and there is no turning

Prophecy or Destiny

“Soon after the catalyst, a national election will produce a
sweeping political realignment, as one faction or coalition capitalizes
on a new public demand for decisive action. Republicans, Democrats, or
perhaps a new party will decisively win the long partisan tug of war.
This new regime will enthrone itself for the duration of the Crisis.
Regardless of its ideology, that new leadership will assert public
authority and demand private sacrifice.  Eventually, all of America’s
lesser problems will combine into one giant problem. The very survival
of the society will feel at stake, as leaders lead and people
follow. The emergent society may be something better, a nation that
sustains its Framers’ visions with a robust new pride. Or it may be
something unspeakably worse. The Fourth Turning will be a time of glory
or ruin.” -
Strauss & Howe - The Fourth Turning

The election of Barack Obama in 2008 did not usher in a sweeping
political realignment of the country. The actions he has taken in the
last two years have maintained the status quo. The financial industry
complex, military industrial complex, and big pharma complex are
stronger and more powerful today than they were in 2008. The 2010
midterm elections were a decisive rejection of Obama’s policies. Those
who think he will be re-elected in 2012 are not seeing the big picture.
Previous Fourth Turnings have ushered in strong dominating Prophet
(Boomer) leaders who used any means necessary to bring the country
through the Crisis. Wishy washy politically calculating compromiser
leaders do not cut it during a time of intense Crisis. The number of
vulnerable Democratic Senators up for re-election in 2012 virtually
insures that Republicans will control both houses of Congress in 2012. A
legitimate 3rd Party candidate does not appear to be on the horizon.
The onset of phase two of the economic meltdown will determine the next
President of the United States.

Before the 2012 elections, I expect a violent downturn in our
economic fortunes spurred by a continued fall in real estate values,
generating more debt losses for the financial industry, and a loss of
confidence in the U.S. fiat currency, as our foreign creditors balk at
lending more money to an already insolvent empire that is incapable of
taking corrective budgetary actions. The resulting economic turmoil,
crashing stock market, rising interest rates, and massive unemployment
will lead the nation to seek a strong, decisive, authoritative leader
who will boldly lead the country through the remainder of the Crisis.
Will it be Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, or a Lincoln like
figure who hasn’t even entered the national stage yet? This question is
unanswerable today. But, the country will turn to someone with answers.
Strauss and Howe clearly state how important the next 10 to 15 years
will be:  

“Decisive events will occur – events so vast, powerful,
and unique that they lie beyond today’s wildest hypotheses. These events
will inspire great documents and speeches, visions of a new political
order being framed. People will discover a hitherto unimagined capacity
to fight and die, and to let their children fight and die, for a
communal cause. The Spirit of America will return, because there will be
no other choice. Thus will Americans reenact the great ancient myth of
the ekpyrosis. Thus will we achieve our next rendezvous with destiny.”

I’m convinced that decisive events will transpire over the next
decade that will push our country to the brink. The country is on an
unsustainable path and we will either crash and burn or take the actions
needed to avert catastrophe. Vast powerful events on an
incomprehensible scale await. Events as farfetched as a Weimar like
hyperinflationary economic collapse, the detonation of a nuclear bomb in
a major American city, the secession of one or more States from the
Union, the collapse of our oil based economy due to peak oil and/or
revolution and turmoil in the Middle East, or a worldwide pandemic, will
become not only realistic, but probable. Are these events any
more improbable than a 9.0 earthquake, leading to a 33 foot high tsunami
wave, which triggers nuclear meltdowns at two separate nuclear power
plants? If you had outlined that scenario a week ago, you would have
been classified as a crazy prophet of doom.   

At this point in time, it doesn’t seem possible that a communal cause
could rejuvenate the Spirit of America in a manner that would lead me
to be willing to fight and die or send my three sons to fight and die.
An imminent threat, such as the Axis Powers during World War II, the
North and South seeing each other as a threat during the Civil War, or
the threat from a foreign empire during the American Revolution, does
not appear evident today. The war on terror is a concept, rather than a
real war. The absence of a known foreign adversary makes me think that
the conflict could center on our own soil between Americans. Strauss and
Howe point out that history does not offer much hope in avoiding armed
conflict during this Fourth Turning:  

“History offers even more sobering warnings: Armed confrontation
usually occurs around the climax of Crisis. If there is confrontation,
it is likely to lead to war. This could be any kind of war – class war,
sectional war, war against global anarchists or terrorists, or
superpower war. If there is war, it is likely to culminate in total war,
fought until the losing side has been rendered nil – its will broken,
territory taken, and leaders captured.”

When it comes to what kind of armed confrontation, how about all of
the above? The wealth distribution of the country is more heavily skewed
to the “Haves” versus the “Have Nots” than any time in history. The
austerity measures that are being proposed on the backs of the middle
class and senior citizens, while ultra-rich bankers have been bailed out
and allowed to continue pillaging the countryside, will surely lead to
class conflict. Generational warfare between the Boomers who want what
they are “owed” and younger generations stuck with the bill will flare
up in the coming years. The country has become so ideological that it
can be easily split into Red States and Blue States. Could this
ideological divide result in the country splitting into two or three
independent countries? Would the Federal government use the armed forces
to maintain one country? It happened before.

The war on terror concept has been in place for the last ten years
and has resulted in draining the Treasury of trillions, exhausting our
limited volunteer forces, and creating more terrorists than existed on
September 10, 2001. The revolutions sweeping across Northern Africa and
the Middle East are not cause for celebration in Washington DC. American
foreign policy has centered on supporting thugs, despots, and dictators
across this region with financial aid and weapons. The aid was
absconded and sent to bank vaults in Switzerland. The weapons are being
used to kill the poor revolutionaries across the region. Two American
backed dictators have been deposed thus far, with Yemen likely to
follow. Our allies in the region are falling with lightening speed. The
loss of Saudi Arabia would portend dire consequences for the U.S. If the
Middle East oil spigot is turned off, the American way of life will
wither and die. 

The myth of American Exceptionalism will not protect the country from
the revolutionary tsunami that is sweeping the globe. America was not
chosen by God as the country that would lead the world for eternity. The
hubris and overreach of the American empire has bankrupted the nation.
Greed, corruption and arrogance are not limited to North African
dictatorships. Crony capitalism supporting a vast military empire,
financed by a banker controlled Federal Reserve has failed. Its failure
will become clear as the Fourth Turning intensifies and sweeps away the
old order. Who or what replaces the old order is unknown. Much will
depend on the generations and their response to the Crisis.   

Bad Moon Rising

Robert Strauss and Neil Howe had no interest in trying to predict the
future. As historians, they wanted to understand how the past could
give clues to what would happen in the future. They discovered a pattern
of behavior by generational archetypes across centuries of
Anglo-American history. They identified the issues that would drive the
next Fourth Turning. They predicted the timing. The accuracy of their
prophecy thus far, has been uncanny. The rhythms of history continue.
The outcome of this Crisis is unknowable, but there is most certainly a
bad moon rising. 

Thus might the next Fourth Turning end in apocalypse – or glory.
The nation could be ruined, its democracy destroyed, and millions of
people scattered or killed. Or America could enter a new golden age,
triumphantly applying shared values to improve the human condition. The
rhythms of history do not reveal the outcome of the coming Crisis; all
they suggest is the timing and dimension. – Strauss & Howe - 
The Fourth Turning

I see the bad moon arising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightning.
I see bad times today.

Don’t go around tonight,
Well, it’s bound to take your life,
There’s a bad moon on the rise.

I hear hurricanes ablowing.
I know the end is coming soon.
I fear rivers over flowing.
I hear the voice of rage and ruin.

Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we’re in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.

Credence Clearwater Revival – Bad Moon Rising


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Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:07 | 1049811 Sudden Debt
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If a butterly in Tunisia can do that....


I can only warn you guys....





Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:54 | 1049866 Miss Expectations
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Sorry for high jacking the thread, but here's a statement from Martin Armstrong:

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:23 | 1050057 samsara
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Thank you

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:14 | 1050196 Crumbles
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+10 and stars ***

Now that he's (partially) sprung, hope he keeps up his communication with the world.

Thanks for posting !

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:28 | 1050071 InconvenientCou...
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not a butterfly, but a match and gasoline. A match and methane works too.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:01 | 1050442 Hacksaw
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Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:11 | 1049816 oh_bama
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Well even some of the things in this post are true, I am sure you cannot fight the fed and ECB and Bank of England and Band of Japan combined. So you are still a loser even if you are right.

Just like some super smart guys saying "buy Japan equity" about two weeks ago... hehe...

Now guys, smart guys here on 0hedge, what is next? BTF what? (I have already got decent amount of fish.. hehe)

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:18 | 1049831 Escapeclaws
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OMG, I just responded to this further down the list which is moving along like a roll of toilet paper for someone with diarrhea:

I find this idea of the so-called "butterfly effect" ludricous as it is commonly applied.  It comes from sensitivity to initial conditions in dynamical systems theory. Some popularizer knew that the Lorenz equations, which model the weather, or more precisely, convection currents, have this property.  However, air is an absorbing medium with the result that any movement of air from a butterfly flapping its wings is quickly damped. The Lorenz equations do not have a parameter for this and do have the property of sensitivity to initial conditions, which means that a tiny perturbation of a given initial condition may give rise to a completely different solution. Strogatz in his book on differential equations has some nice color pictures of this happening on the famous Lorenz owl mask strange attractor. The Lorenz equations are strictly deterministic and do not allow for absorption, damping, or random movement of air molecules in Brownian motion. The logical fallacy of the butterfly effect is to assume that the model is the phenomenon--ie, putting Descartes before the horse.

NB, this was in response to the post above--I guess that roll of toilet paper is moving pretty fast!

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:26 | 1049863 Snidley Whipsnae
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Perhaps the 'butterfly effect' falls into the catagory of parable...

'parable: An extended metaphor narrated as an anecdote illustrating and teaching a moral lesson.'

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:28 | 1049871 Escapeclaws
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Yes, it could be com-parable to that.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:37 | 1049903 Oh regional Indian
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Too literal escape. You are applying science and literal mathematics to a phenomenan hardly understood by standard anything (science I mean). 

EWhen action at a distance has been explained, properly as has Heisenberg's postulate of uncertainity been fully understood, not by false constant filled equations by the way, then we can talk of butterfly's and flapping wings and hurricanes.

Science, as we know it, has run it's course and given us little except better ways to kill ourselves. Painfully at that.


Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:05 | 1050174 gwar5
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That sounds a little fatalistic, but then, I knew you'd say that....

Check out String theory and the Holographic Principle. Says the universe is made of information and all the mass and energy are merely incidental because they're an expression of information too. Not to worry, all that information is being recorded on the Planck scale on a cosmic compressed disc for recall and never lost. Dinosaurs and WMDs are tinker toys.

Long live the Holodeck.





Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:26 | 1050247 Crumbles
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'The time has come,' the Walrus said,
'To talk of many things:
Of shoes -- and ships -- and sealing wax --
Of cabbages -- and kings --
And why the sea is boiling hot --
And whether pigs have wings.' wings that flap in N. Africa

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:59 | 1050425 Hook Line and S...
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That, ORI, is what science has given every culture on this planet for the past hundreds of thousands of years. Fallen angels we are.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:53 | 1050613 DavidPierre
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The Fourth Turning...
Shallow catholic rhetoric... more aptly named The 4th Turd  ... faith-based tripe ... "bring back tradition!"  it screams... a true believer's rote catechism.
The 4th Turd  is prescriptive, traditionalist, 'virtue-cratic', mombo-jombo, mixed with puritanism and a dash of Tipper Gore. Bring back values like honour and duty, observe decency in personal conduct, discipline, develop tighter societal standards, traditional virtues.
When it's not talking about early historical eras, the book is bemoaning the ever-branching diversity of choices and lifestyles in modern life or criticizing the edginess of pop culture.
All the absurd theory about supposed cycles of the supposed generations, the fabled historical parallels, the dire warning that a new era of crisis is to come, is just an excuse to tell readers to prepare for a crisis era that may or may not be coming by celebrating the importance of authority; cease unconventional behaviour in an era that will demand conformity, and settling down to focus on prescribed values.  A hollow diatribe, pushing to get back to trust in public institutions and in the government... more restrictions on personal behaviour. 

Advice to set up strict regimes of rules, zero tolerance of conflicting opinions, demands on conduct and development to make sure that children can grow up to be the next 'HERO' generation, as they are corraled as fodder for the eternal crusades... a heavily conservative bent sticking out like a sore thumb, no doubt reflecting some of the attitudes and wishes of the infamous liar, SmokeyQuinn.  
The theory about "generations" and "turnings", the quotes and events of early historical generations are only fished out of the shallow AmeriKlan Sea, and, more importantly, ignore the rest of the world... only to find a few lame examples that will make the generations seem to fit into the imaginary pattern.
Worse yet, the portraits painted of the four recurring generational archetypes in the whannabee theory, the predications are incredibly vague and  sound like weakly created parodies.
Of course many theories will run into a FEW problems like this, but The 4th Turd  is whipped up to sound just convincing enough to sell an authoritarian ideology.
Though there is some element of truth in The 4th Turd, certainly mankind's recorded experiences have been one of cyclical ebb and flow, one cannot make anywhere near the many pat characterizations and conclusive and farfetched leaps of simple reason and logic. 
If intended as a work of propaganda, the book is perfect, for all good propaganda contains enough of an element of probable truth to be plausible.
Most everything in this book is arranged and written with the assumption that the thesis is essentially correct, a mode which is overreaching, suspect, and at best sloppy.
The wholesale grading & categorization of people is facile, diminishing, and overly fatalistic.
The book is an oligarchic collectivist's wet dream. The warning is that we are but mindless automatons, locked in an endless and stupid cycle of mass destruction, following our collectivist predestination, but that we might fail and then woe is to us. A stock false choice if there ever was one.
Either these guys were commissioned to write this stuff, or they have a more than adequate knack for figuring out which way the ill wind is blowing and sucking up to the NWO Elites for fun and profit.
Where in The 4th Turd  is the experience of Korea, Viet Nam, the Cold War, all the endless wars, Globalism, consumer society, etc. etc.?
The TRUTH of September 11, 2001, when it is dealt with openly and properly, will be the pivot to the next TURNING.
Truth might finally emerge someday in the semi-consciousness of people like SmokeyQuinn?   Best take that ameriKlan ring out of your nose!

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 14:15 | 1051175 buzzard
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Nice try Mr. Pierre. Heard it all before. No cigar. I understood Strauss and Howe's ideological basis when I read the book in 1997, but it did not detract in any way the truth of their message at all. By the way, have you read it yourself? If not, May I suggest that you do it... soon.


Mr. Quinn, I haven't read a better synopsis by plugging in real data and events since the book was written. Thanks.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 22:03 | 1053219 DavidPierre
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Do you really need people like Quinn to blow smoke up your derriere again?

SmokeyQuinn has no creative ideas of his own, so he just copies and pastes... just feeds off and then regurgitates the dead ideas of Strauss & Howe like a vulture... a buzzard.

God only knows how many times he has rewritten this same stupid article. And now he drags this 4th Turd crap around on ZH again.

Aside from very rough generalities, like S&H’s, quarter century predictions are about as useless as an asshole on your elbow.

SmokeyQuinn liked my above comment so much that he reposted it on his racist and obscene blog.  You would probably like hanging with those MORONs.


{h.t. to the only two sane posters @ }

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 13:47 | 1050927 Escapeclaws
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Ori, let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. We live in a golden age of science and should appreciate that fact. It could very well be that all science and math is approximation and perhaps nothing more, which kind of accords with what I was trying to say about mistaking the model--or theory, if you wish--for the phenomenon or reality.

To falsify what I have to say, you should address the idea that the effect of the butterfly flapping its wings is damped away in the immediate vicinity and thereby prevents the so-called butterfly effect from occurring.  Imagine pulling on a very elastic carpet at one corner of the room. Because of the elasticity, there will be essentially no effect on the other side of the room. Vanishingly small microscopic effects do not count because the whole point of the butterfly effect is that there is a vast magnification of effect. I'm not saying that sensitivity to initial conditions does not exist, but I think the a butterfly flapping its wings is not a good illustration.

Paradoxically, I think pseudoscience--using scientific ideas and terms with no real understanding of what they mean or where they come from--will do more to create an anti-science attitude in society than anything else. I totally disagree with you that science " has run it's course and given us little except better ways to kill ourselves." Blame the negative effects on politicians if you will, but science and math are two of the chief glories of civilization. Profound study of both will show you that they provide the same sense of beauty and mystery that is there in great art and music.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 15:04 | 1051430 tamboo
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lol we live in the great age of scientific suppression,
look up tesla and schauberger sometime.

"Morgan had already had his technical advisors check the work of Tesla, and they found that Tesla's confounded "energy freely from the active medium" systems (asymmetric systems) were for real.

As a result, Morgan's tech advisors did a group analysis on the Heaviside equations and showed that the Heaviside equations were still ASYMMETRICAL -- and thus they still contained some of those confounded Tesla "free excess energy from the active medium" (i.e., asymmetric) systems. At Morgan's bidding, Lorentz was then elicited to eliminate those "free energy from the active medium" systems from this new-fangled electrical engineering that was being formed. "

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 21:43 | 1053129 Oh regional Indian
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Spot on. Thaks for the link tamboo.


Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:57 | 1049965 gwar5
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Can you be found liable?

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:24 | 1050064 robobbob
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Its an overused metaphor. but not entirely incorrect. Chaos theory overcomes the problems of attempting to account for a nearly infinite amount of unmeasurable variables, but shows that even the most minute changes in condition can lead to gross divergance of outcome.

The point they are attempting to anecdotally make is that history is not just a collection of random events, nor linear interactions, but are better described by harmonic systems and Fourier analysis. It is not enough to declare a butterfly as a force variable, but to classify it as either a dampening or driving force of what order in relation to the phenomena under study. The effects occurring at the nth wave function typically cancel out, or are simply negligible, however, under certain conditions, reach a point of harmonic convergence that amplifies their effect into noticable and possibly profound outcomes.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:46 | 1050350 flattrader
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What many people don't realize is that the 26 yr. old Tunisian who torched himself over the police insults and the inability to get a permit to sell oranges and olives was NOT the first to set himself on fire.

He was the FIRST to announce it and to do it infront of a cell phone camera.  The images were then spread via Facebook, Twitter etc...

From what I read, there had been a few other cases of self-immolation before this over the course of a few weeks.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:17 | 1049837 Snidley Whipsnae
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Defense contractors that aren't susceptible to tsunamis?


Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:51 | 1049951 Weisbrot
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of course they are, it increases their sales. on a tsunami of world peace would affect how and what they do.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:13 | 1049829 Josh Randall
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Kermit's Teflon 20 can outlast any scare -- especially with Captain Bernank at the helm of the S.S. Money Printing Machine

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:18 | 1049844 Arch Duke Ferdinand
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:23 | 1049856 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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Food and Water is the most precious commodity now folks...

Bye bye cheap food....

Two Honeybee articles...

Canada's four western provinces have a plethora of natural resources with only 12.5 million citizens....12.5 million citizens!...w/ Vancouver BC it's gateway city...

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:25 | 1050041 Arch Duke Ferdinand
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True or False...Japan is net short 50% food and water now?

True or False...India is currently experiencing +10% food price inflation?

True or False...Iran vs Saudi Arabia War now inevitable?

True or False...Both Iran and Saudi Arabia will blame cause of war because Israel exists?

True or False...Japan will blame reason for Earthquake/Tsunami events on Israel?

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:17 | 1049830 doomandbloom
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Newt Gingrich?

That was a name that i have heard as one of the persons participating in dark rituals as part of a satanic cabal...( video search for 'confessions of mother goddess- to david icke')

In that case, yes he will become the next president.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:15 | 1049832 Godot
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By coincidence, I turned 4 times while sleeping last night.


Upon completing the 4th turning, I was joined by Jessica Biel.  So, not all Fourth Turnings are bad.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:19 | 1049846 Sudden Debt
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So you didn't notice that on your fourth turning B.A. also joined you in bed and took you from behind?


Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:16 | 1049836 virgilcaine
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Martin Armstrong released from prison..

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:30 | 1050082 robobbob
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Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:18 | 1049838 Sudden Debt
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Or America could enter a new golden age, triumphantly applying shared values to improve the human condition

But to get there, McDonals and Burger King would become 1 company and launch the holy grail of Hamburgers and open a restaurant every 5 miles.


Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:19 | 1049849 misterc
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Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:59 | 1050162 ElvisDog
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God, no fucking kidding. While I respect what the author is trying to say with this article, he is stacking one "if" on top of another (if interests rise, and if the honeybees die, and if Newt Gringich is elected president in 2012, and so on). To paraphrase Scotty "if my grandma had wheels, she'd be a wagon".

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:25 | 1049853 High Plains Drifter
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American air craft carrier crew exposed to nuclear radiation. What does this mean?

what does this mean? contaminated? I didn't know there was any way to help someone who has been exposed.

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:28 | 1049875 Snidley Whipsnae
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Buy puts on large, annoying Pink Bunnies?

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:35 | 1050283 Pants McPants
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Hmmm, what's the correct term for this situation?  Irony really doesn't do it justice. 

US soldiers exposed to nuclear radiation in a country they bombed (and still occupy) using nuclear weapons. 

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:24 | 1049860 oh_bama
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Someone please tell me:


Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:38 | 1049906 Oh regional Indian
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BTF dip-shit maybe?


Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:24 | 1049862 4ndy
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Did someone watched this:

Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:26 | 1049867 Sudden Debt
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Did anybody look at the reactor number 3 building?



All the fuel rods are dry right now. Does anybody know how long they can last dry before a total meltdown?


Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:33 | 1049894 Snidley Whipsnae
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Stoneleigh at Automatic Earth has a PHD in nuclear safety...or, somehting similar...

Here is her take on the situation...

" Pre-damage heat up. "In the absence of a two-phase mixture going through the core or of water addition to the core to compensate water boiloff, the fuel rods in a steam environment will heatup at a rate between 0.3 K/s and 1 K/s (3)."

  • Fuel ballooning and bursting. "In less than half an hour, the peak core temperature would reach 1100 K. At this temperature, the zircaloy cladding of the fuel rods may balloon and burst. This is the first stage of core damage. Cladding ballooning may block a substantial portion of the flow area of the core and restrict the flow of coolant. However complete blockage of the core is unlikely because not all fuel rods balloon at the same axial location. In this case, sufficient water addition can cool the core and stop core damage progression."
  • Rapid oxidation. "The next stage of core damage, beginning at approximately 1500 K, is the rapid oxidation of the Zircaloy by steam. In the oxidation process, hydrogen is produced and a large amount of heat is released. Above 1500 K, the power from oxidation exceeds that from decay heat (4,5) unless the oxidation rate is limited by the supply of either zircaloy or steam."
  • Debris bed formation. "When the temperature in the core reaches about 1700 K, molten control materials [1,6] will flow to and solidify in the space between the lower parts of the fuel rods where the temperature is comparatively low. Above 1700 K, the core temperature may escalate in a few minutes to the melting point of zircaloy (2150 K) due to increased oxidation rate. When the oxidized cladding breaks, the molten zircaloy, along with dissolved UO2 [1,7] would flow downward and freeze in the cooler, lower region of the core. Together with solidified control materials from earlier down-flows, the relocated zircaloy and UO2 would form the lower crust of a developing cohesive debris bed."
  • (Corium) Relocation to the lower plenum. "In scenarios of small-break LOCAs, there is generally. a pool of water in the lower plenum of the vessel at the time of core relocation. Release of molten core materials into water always generates large amounts of steam. If the molten stream of core materials breaks up rapidly in water, there is also a possibility of a steam explosion. During relocation, any unoxidized zirconium in the molten material may also be oxidized by steam, and in the process hydrogen is produced. Recriticality also may be a concern if the control materials are left behind in the core and the relocated material breaks up in unborated water in the lower plenum."
  • Her entire post here...

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:30 | 1049877 lunaticfringe
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    Tyler I'm a little shocked you have not run anything on steak and blowjob day. That's the big news today. I'm a little concerned. Thinking maybe, you are a chica? Eh?

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:33 | 1049890 Silverhog
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    Wow, the explosion at #3 looks far worse than #1. Can't imagine that any pipe lines are still intact. New report coming in on CNN Blog that #2 may have experienced a meltdown. I guess we could expect another explosion is coming.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:07 | 1050000 Sudden Debt
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    It seems one of the former workers forget to take his new iPad 2.0 home and it now seems it may not have survived the blast.

    Apple on the other hand already send out a press release that the warranty does cover any steam vapor damages (radioactive or not)

    as a reason BUT, in order to get a new one, the iPad needs to be returned IN A SEALED PACKAGE AS BOUGHT.

    Also the owner died in the blast and blablabla...




    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:52 | 1050145 barkingbill
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    don't worry these explosions are a special breed of massive atomic power station explosions which are actually without any dangerous radioactivity. even though the entire building is blown to kingdom come the core always remains intact. there is no meltdown, or maybe there is a partial meltdown, or you know some people call it a meltdown, but there is no danger. lol. 

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:33 | 1049893 Oh regional Indian
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    Great article, except that he used Winston Churchill, arch shill, war monger extraordinnaire and a liar to boot, to launch it. If you don't know the truth about Churchill, then you've really got a wake up coming. 

    But 4th turning indeed. And what a turning it's turning out to be.

    More like the fourth burning in this burning filled century of oil.

    Which we can all see has destroyed us, the earth...yup, that about covers it.

    The nuclear genie, out of the bottle is taking over from oil in this last hurrah phase, as it shoud, because, of course, without petroleum and it's derivatives, nuclear energy would have been impossible.

    Tight spaces, seper-dense.... welcome to y/our new world. Shortly to go boom, a la Atlantis.
    It's called species over-reach.


    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:31 | 1050086 4ndy
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    +1 good point about Churchil, the white supremacist.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:19 | 1050210 DosZap
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    Not half the racist bigot Wooodrow Wilson was.

    Let's keep history in prespective.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:18 | 1050542 Abitdodgie
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    Churchill had more than one chance of ending  ww2 early, by the surrender of the Germans 6 months earlier than it did but was told by the financiers not , so yes do not idolise him 

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:34 | 1049897 LeBalance
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    Revolution is a strangely defined concept.

    To me if there had been a revolution the controlling agencies would be torn asunder and a new group with a differing concept for society would have taken control.

    So I scratch my head and examine these so-called revolutions.

    All of the controlling agencies still remain intact.  Banks, Churches, Commercial Methods, Culture, Personal Ego Construction, Language, etc.

    So are these social venting episodes "revolutions" then?

    I do not know, but they do not seem to rise to the level of revolution.  They are more along the line of puppet removal and strange pressure relief.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:25 | 1050062 jdrose1985
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    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:36 | 1050285 robobbob
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    The Egyptian "revolutions" have TPTB fingerprints all over them.

    El Baradei, International Crises Group board member with Soros and "Grand Chessboard" player Brezinski

    Center for Trade Unionists and Worker Services affiliated with AFL/CIO and international socialists who Mubarak had tried to shut down

    Code Pink as led several protests to open up Gaza border, whos founder Jodie Evans happened to be a BHO fund raising bundler, and Mubarak had threatened to arrest.

    Soros and Obama(via GSE OPIC) dumped +/- $100M into Saraj investment group-a Gaza specific group and an additional $240M of US taxpayer money into the Affordable Mortgage and Loan Corporation (AMAL) of Palestine

    both of who would benefit from an open Egyptian border. Of course that would take a dramatic reversal of Egypts policies of the last thirty years.

    and of course BHO being a friend with pro palestinian Professor Khalidi who would also like an open Gaza border.

    amazing how so many people would like to see an open Gaza border, and suddenly the biggest obstacle disappears.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:54 | 1050739 nowhereman
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    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.  We won't be fooled again!

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 00:51 | 1054209 Miss anthrope
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    LeBalance, I always look to you for thoughtful input. 

    I've been thinking over a concept.  what do you think of a reset.

    In that I mean, remove all agencies, laws, regulations and taxes, etc. etc back to a certain day in the past.... say 1950.  And simply start again. 


    Too tired right now to properly delve further.  What do you think as a general galvanizing point for a revolution.  You are right, by the way.  It would not really be a "revolution" but it might give us relief from much that ails us........ TSA, Homeland security, DEA, NAFTA, GATT.  Oh, and also, end the Federal reserve and have the government issue it's own money with a gold standard.  Ok. Big day tomorrow......... to dreamland I go.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:43 | 1049919 johnQpublic
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    this matches how i feel entirely to well


    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:45 | 1049927 williambanzai7
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    If it at got that swing, it don't mean a thing...

    The Jazzman

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:50 | 1049948 kadriana123
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    I'm half-way through this book at it is pretty interesting. I always said you could tell which of my friends parents were baby boomers and which were older by the way they acted. The only thing that keeps me going after reading this site is the hope that there will be a spring.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:52 | 1049950 Absinthe Minded
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    Strange days indeed. How can we allow this to continue? We are surely deserving of our fate if we fail to step up and attempt to alter it's path.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:16 | 1050527 RockyRacoon
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    I think the point you missed may have been that there is no "fixing" this.  It is not changeable.  It can only be prepared for.   QEXX will not repair anything in this natural process.   If anything is to be done, it might be that the focus of the war can be diverted to the oligarchy instead of just the cannon fodder wars of the past.

    “History offers even more sobering warnings: Armed confrontation usually occurs around the climax of Crisis. If there is confrontation, it is likely to lead to war. This could be any kind of war – class war, sectional war, war against global anarchists or terrorists, or superpower war. If there is war, it is likely to culminate in total war, fought until the losing side has been rendered nil – its will broken, territory taken, and leaders captured.”

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:57 | 1049970 locinvestor
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    One problem with this? The authors generalizations at various key points.

    What have they said that hasn't already been "analayzed" by various other "pundits"?:

    Not all but many Americans are apathetic and have a superiority complex.

    Many act like sheep and will follow anyone that makes them feel safer.

    Many will completely ignore the facts that you put before them.

    When they feel threatened, they'll lash out (usually at someone who doesn't look like them).

    Another element in this? The fringe element that cashes in on every "crisis".

    Look at the comments on the White House You tube channel. Not all but many are blatantly racist. Obama gets how many death threats a day? This alone proves that the "post racial" society is a joke. How many people refuse to face that?

    Maybe the biggest problems in this are apathy and denial. This hasn't "personally" affected m. So just go away. How do you solve that?

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:04 | 1049988 baby_BLYTHE
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    QE 2 = Unmitigated Failure!


    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:24 | 1050566 RockyRacoon
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    Worse than failure.  Much worse.

    The latest from is a must read if you'd like to have a nice overview of how this is playing out.

    The End of Sound Money and the Triumph of Crony Capitalism

    This is not some cheap shot at the system.   This is from David Stockman on March 12th.   The tie-in with this ZH article is smooth and seamless.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:43 | 1050673 baby_BLYTHE
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    thx Rocky!

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:05 | 1049997 steve from virginia
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    And to Jim Quinn I give the gift of brevity along with the gift of levity.

    Everything was fine until you got to Kanjorski who is another shill.

    People taking money out of one account and putting it in another is not a collapse.

    Losing money is not a national tragedy and what is taking place right now is not the equivalent of Hitler preparing to 'unify' Europe.

    This is not a turning but a descent, people are broke they just won't admit is.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 22:56 | 1053473 malek
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    People taking money out of one account and putting it in another is not a collapse.

    You should really apply for a job at the Federal Reserve - they need people like you with excellent skills in obfuscation and and outright BS spewing!

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:07 | 1050007 velobabe
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    yes another beautiful and colorful sun rise this AM. four turns ought to do it†

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:28 | 1050077 TexDenim
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     The bought off politicians in Washington DC then towed the line and passed TARP.


    I enjoyed this, but it's a shame these bloggers can't master the rudiments of idiomatic English. It isn't "tow the line" (as in pulling a boat), but rather "toe the line" (meaning to line up in a straight line, as in a boot camp.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:38 | 1050102 robobbob
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    ....I thought that it was a prison term


    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:37 | 1050299 Pants McPants
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    Same thing.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:40 | 1050324 Crumbles
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    Exactly so!

    Here is another all too common - blame the misuse of heels on spell-checkers, I guess.

     The firestorm started by Bouazizi has brought down Mubarak in Egypt and is lapping at the heals of Gaddafi in Libya.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:36 | 1050099 Azannoth
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    "His six volume history detailed the years from the end of World War I through the unconditional surrender of the Axis powers in 1945" without 1 sentence about a jewish holocaust, gas chambers nor 6 million dead, just saying

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:43 | 1050117 Dick Darlington
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    But but but, Goldman's good ol' Jimbo O'Neill said revolutions are bullish. No? Looool!

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:48 | 1050129 Dr. Engali
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    Good piece until Newt Gingrich and Mitt Romney were mentioned. Why throw in establishment names who are part of the problem?

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:30 | 1050586 RockyRacoon
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    Who would have been your suggestion for a Republican candidate?

    ...or a Lincoln like figure who hasn’t even entered the national stage yet?

    The question is left open.  I'm disappointed that at this point Ron Paul's name has not occurred on this page.  But that in no way invalidates the article.

    I've seen a lot of nit-picking and minor fault found with this article.  I believe it's called whistling past the graveyard.   Take the message at face value and prepare accordingly.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:56 | 1050152 VyseLegendaire
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    With or without the Fourth Turning, the fan's been fixing to gobble down some shyte. 

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:41 | 1050266 i-dog
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    What a load of bullshit! Written like a true oligarch would want us to see it ... filled with superstitions, inaccuracies and ... FFS ... Churchill?!

    Though it may well have been the self-immolation of an unfortunate that triggered Tunisia, there is no reason not to assume that he might not have been put up to it (or pushed to it) ... a true suicide bomber -- the oligarchs' favourite flashpoint.

    Firstly, there are no "coincidences" in politics. The wave of unrest in North Africa and the Middle East is simply a continuation of the oligarch-engineered pushbacks against austerity in Greece and France of last year ... where the public service unions were used to incite "outrage" that was supposed to result in much greater civil unrest and a collapse of the Euro. (I also strongly suspect that the public sector unions have been a sacrificial pawn in Wisconsin in an attempt to incite "outrage" on the home front).

    Anyway, now that the oligarchs have pulled the rug out from under the financial system -- using financial derivatives followed by their red-hot printing presses at all the central banks virtually simultaneously -- they are now proceeding to pull the rug out from under the international political system by ousting all their old 'tolerated' dictator/pseudo-royal mates around the globe and replacing them with more compliant puppets or unstable 2-party systems like the rest of us have to suffer under. First cabs off the rank are Gaddhafi (too unstable, and sitting on "Europe's" oil), Mubarak (getting old, controls the Suez, and often liked to say 'no' to requests to add "legitimate cover" for anti-islamic activities), the Sauds (sitting on "America's" oil), the Bahrainis (may as well take them out, too), Iraq and Afghanistan (still trying to get puppets into place!), Pakistan, etc. 'Divide and conquer' has also not been forgotten in places like Sudan (the south has oil) and Yemen (must control access to the Red Sea). In addition, so-called democratic elections have been "managed" in places like the UK, Australia, Ireland and elsewhere, to arrive at minority coalition governments comprising uneasy bedfellows ... which is intended to place things on a manipulable knife-edge in even the most stable of Anglo-democracies.

    Secondly, the stepping stones to the coming New World Order (ie. global dictatorship) have been well-orchestrated over the last 50 years of concerted effort to align absolute control over everything from food supplies (Codex Alimentarius and WTO), individual rights (US presidential Executive Orders and EU edicts), energy (manipulated oil prices plus moratoriums on new sources of energy other than ineffective wind and solar) and freedom of movement (electronic tagging of everyone and their every move). Many of these actions were long planned to come into full effect in the 2011-2012 timeframe ... presumably after previous efforts  (like the League of Nations after WWI and the UN after WWII) failed to achieve the desired takeover. Third time lucky! All we are waiting for now is their engineered false-flag war to kick off the final phase ... my bet is that it will be in Israel next year.

    The OP's fairy tale is exactly what the oligarchs want you all to believe ... that it is "destiny" that the present upheaval is happening (bullshit!) ... that it happens every 80 years anyway (bullshit!) ... that there is nothing you can do about it (bullshit!). What a load of bullshit!

    What we are being subjected to is the endgame in a multi-generational project by a small clique of self-righteous criminal blue-bloods who believe they have inherited the 'god-given right' to rule (and break every rule!) ... with the complicity of their willing banker knights and some aristocratic families in the military-industrial complex. To them, we 'useless eaters' will just be collateral damage ... and those that survive will be feudal serfs.

    Bring on true free market capitalism to stop the fuckers!

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:28 | 1050587 Abitdodgie
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    "my bet is that it will be in Israel next year"      If it is and they let a dirty bomb off in one of the cities will anyone really care 

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:34 | 1050622 RockyRacoon
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    Fine.  You say it's BS.   However, your fix is to bring on capitalism?  Now there's a pipe-dream.   We just get up one day and say, "Hey! Let's just do that Capitalism thingy.  That'll do it, yeah."    Now who is the visionary?

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 23:05 | 1053523 malek
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    Now what are you trying to say? We had real free-market capitalism for the last 20 years and it caused the mess we are in???
    Hint: If you don't let bankrupt institutions fail, it's not capitalism anymore.

    Does someone have to invent something new from scratch to be a visionary?

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:28 | 1057572 RockyRacoon
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    Uh.  You totally misunderstood the entire conversation.  I'd love to see pure(er) capitalism.  It's just that saying, "Let's do it" don't make it so.  It's pie-in-the-sky rhetoric.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:33 | 1050278 Trying to Understand
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    FLASH: Fuel rods fully exposed again at Fukushima nuclear power plant: TEPCO

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:47 | 1050361 vast-dom
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    Tyler this all reads like an updated version of Oswald Spengler's Decline of the West for Dummies not that any of what you wrote is dumb; far from it. 

    Excellent post. We are indeed in for some scary shit. Are you prepared?

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:53 | 1050398 ukmetman
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    A lot of anti-Churchill comentators here today. You're in good company, Obama booted Churchill's statue out of the Whitehouse when he took office.

    You should ask yourselves, "If Obama hates Churchill, can Churchill be all that bad?"

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:29 | 1050598 Abitdodgie
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    Obumma probably did not know who it was !

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 14:44 | 1051328 ukmetman
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    Nice try Rocky, but Obama still hates Churchill, or the Brits or both. Further down in the newspaper article you quoted we discover that:

    But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: "Thanks, but no thanks."


    You will have to come to terms with the fact the leftie Brit progressives hate Americans, and leftie US progressives hate the Brits.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 15:40 | 1051597 RockyRacoon
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    OK.  Fair enough.  However, in the scheme of things, why is this important at all?  That was my main point.   Does ANYBODY really care?   Other than your esteemed self, of course.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 13:12 | 1050839 Natasha Fatale
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    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:34 | 1050624 getplaning
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    The resulting economic turmoil, crashing stock market, rising interest rates, and massive unemployment will lead the nation to seek a strong, decisive, authoritative leader who will boldly lead the country through the remainder of the Crisis. Will it be Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Chris Christie, or a Lincoln like figure who hasn’t even entered the national stage yet?


    This is the root of the problem. This country is in dire need of leadership, and the choices that Americans are presented with are not leaders, but merely front-men for the real ownership society. It's like a fuckin' beauty pageant.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:37 | 1050644 RockyRacoon
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    There are those who would say that this is just as planned.  And I'd be the last to disagree, not having evidence to the contrary.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:47 | 1050689 notadouche
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    If Churchill wasn't a lying, defeitful wank, all of Europe would be speaking German as he had no help, not even from the progressives in charge of America.  If we had a revolution in the US bloggers would outnumber fighters a million to one.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 13:03 | 1050787 FrankIvy
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    NotaD wrote: If we had a revolution in the US bloggers would outnumber fighters a million to one.


    And I would lead the 300.  This.  Is.  America!


    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 13:01 | 1050775 FrankIvy
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    Depending on who the author means by "they," I don't agree that they didn't see this coming.  The occurrence of oil depletion, energy price increases, food price increases, and social unrest was as predictable as the coming of Spring.  The fact that some talking head on CNN didn't call it out is not material.  The people running the show have expected this for a long time.  Buildings falling from diesel fires, never-ending war on terror, department of homeland spying.  Any decently rational thinker is obliged to conclude that these events are not random, and are intimately connected with the unrest in N. Africa.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 13:24 | 1050883 tjfxh
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    Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney, Chris Christie.... Surely you must be joking. It had better be some "Linoln" like figure, because there is no one on the scene now that is not sold out to the Establishment. If you are expecting any of these people to solve the critical problems of the US and world, you are severly deluded. And the billion dollar campaigns ensure that the winner will be the one backed by the Establishment.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 13:32 | 1050933 augmister
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    All the pieces of the puzzle are on the table... Now how are you going to arrange them?

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 13:33 | 1050940 tony bonn
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    are the great lies of the plutocracy coming undone? possibly not - americans are too stoopid to query for the truth still beleiving the lies of the warren commission, hsca, 9/11 commission, and every other state organ committed to telling lies...

    the plutocracy is not giving up without a fight - assuming that one is ever offered....the head bitch commissioner of the 9/11 commission stated on the record that the purpose of the commission is to maintain the institution rather than report the truth....she has repudiated any evidence contrary to her lying court's findings because she wants to "maintain the institution."

    she and bernanke should be hung from the nearest tree....

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 14:11 | 1051117 Bitch Tits
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    Hmmm, crisis psychology?

     "The mood of the country has shifted darkly into a crisis mode . . . "

    "when anyone with the ability to think can see that things will get severely worse . . . "

     "The mood of the people across the globe has turned dark and angry . . . "

    " . . . will lead to chaos, violent change, the sweeping away of the existing social order, and likely war."

    "The people who have been screwed and continue to be screwed are growing angry and distrustful ... "

    "Fingers of tension and instability run through every aspect of American society. Pressure is building beneath the surface."

    "The economic distress worsens for the average American every day. The recovery propaganda circulated by the power elite through the mass media is a fraud. Only those with wealth and power have recovered."

    "Before the 2012 elections, I expect a violent downturn in our economic fortunes . . ."

    "Trust in our institutions, politicians, corporate leaders, media and social order is disintegrating. . ."

    Are you fuckers terrorists or what? Let me know when you plan to fear-fuck my motor cortex so I can apply a little lube first, ok?


    Conservatives should be very careful of what they wish for.  You are certainly saying it often enough for it to be "believed", however, I think the majority of Americans understand that the conservative philosophy is at fault for this "crisis". You may claim the 2010 mid-terms, but the truth is that nobody voted in that election BUT conservatives. I think the rest of the country has stopped caring about such a fraudulent exercise anyway.


    Our government isn't working because there are those in government (and business and lobbyists!) who are actively working against "the rules" in order to profit from predatory practices. In other words, too many flexibilities in "the rules" will lead to frauds and corruption. This has been proven TRUE. All you have to do is look to the past 11 years. No smoke blowing up asses in every direction (like this article) just the simple facts of our recent history.



    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 15:38 | 1051591 tony bonn
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    i don't necessarily buy into the turnings framework although it contains some sensible elements....however, i do buy into all of the pathologies documented as catalysts for a 4th turning.

    america has not lost her way. she was never on it - certainly since 1913 america has been in the grips of the bankster / intelligence / mic....we are seeing the fruits of a nation governed by decadent plutocrats who are nothing but pathological criminals....jeffery dahlmers one and all....

    the empire crumbles and yet the plutocrats want even more spending on wars against fake terrorism....nero fiddles while rome burns...

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 18:37 | 1051830 Zero Govt
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    Jim Quinn of Burning Platform

    i understand 1773 as a significant date as it freed Americans (the people) from the tyranny (tax exploitation) by the British Govt.

    But what has 1860 got to do with tides or turning points?

    It was the election of Abe Lincoln. One year later this scumbag took America to war with itself. Instead of allowing the South to have independence and self-determination he went to a murderous war to force America to accept one, his, Government?

    Why is that honourable or freeing in any way whatsoever about Lincolns murderous civil war??? 

    It is the history of tyranny and forcing Govt on an unwlling people (forcing a nation State) of which Abe Lincoln, no doubt working once again for his parasitical murderous behind-the-scenes political sponsors (banksters?), was one of the tyrants in history.

    Of course the 'victors' of war get to (re)write the history books. My research found nothing but bluff and bluster regards the American civil war on a Google search. But 1860 was and remains the start of a murderous mindless civil war inacted by Lincoln to force a national Govt on the American people, the same tyranny Americans tried to escape from Europe. The SAME mistake of authoritarian mindless undemocratic European Govt repeated in America. The same parasitical elite scum waging war on an unwilling people to force them to accept a monopoly power structure. 

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 19:23 | 1052569 bluebare
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    An imminent threat, such as the Axis Powers during World War II, the North and South seeing each other as a threat during the Civil War, or the threat from a foreign empire during the American Revolution, does not appear evident today.


    Not to worry.  We'll find one.

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 19:58 | 1052686 trendybull459
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    People get together,anyone who cares about basic problem of our existance FED invited to vote in our poll and read out latest comments on yahoo FED article about QE3:

    Voting poll is waiting for you click,take 5sec to make your choice,we must to reach critical level to be recognised by others to tove too!Thank you and keep all us together regardless government effords,we appreciate if you link us to other polls,blogs,sites to let people or your friiends to vote FED existence

    Mon, 03/14/2011 - 20:57 | 1052896 JR
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    Jim Quinn:

     I would like to compliment you on a masterful job of putting the defining events of our crisis into glaring perspective.

    It is true that the old order is going to break apart.  But it is not difficult to predict some hopeful developments after the breakup.  And this is because of the resolve men have for freedom, for liberty. It is that spark that will make them place their lives on the line to rescue our Founders’ dream.  What’s ahead is a major course correction, long overdue;  but the expectations of our countrymen for the kind of nation they had anticiipated means that it will still be on course.

    The damage to our ship of state, at the core, comes from the Federal Reserve System, originally designed by unbelievably ambitious men who had no compassion for justice or for their fellow men.  The Twentieth Century …with its financed wars,  depressions, and  general erosion of American standards, lays bare the Fed as a frightening new threat to the existence of America.

    To say there will be a future for America with the Federal Reserve is to say that Americans will accept the death of their country.  I believe my countrymen will accept no such thing and will in time remove this cancer that is destroying our great nation.

    Again, a masterful  job!   Thank you.

    Tue, 03/15/2011 - 00:22 | 1053952 Zero Govt
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    the "cancer" your country, every country, needs removing is called "democratic Government". It is a monopoly power system, a parasite system. 

    It is Govt that is the root of Americas problems (debt, wealth destruction, institutionalised criminality). It is Govt that is the root of the banking and central banking problem. The Fed is a product of Govt, its centralisation of institutions. 

    The Founding Fathers installed the parasite system called Govt in America, they are not to be admired. The same system of authority, stupidity and corruption Americans left Europe to escape. You will not escape the cancer that is a product of Govt if you keep re-installing the same corrupt system!

    Freedom is the answer. And free markets. You do not need a Founding Father or a politician to represent you. Represent yourself, you're are an adult. You do not need another adult to be you. You are enough. You can manage without this hed-fuk of a liberal idea you need to be governed and fleeced of your income. You don't, you never did, that is the biggest lie in history 

    Be free. The first step is wanting to be free. The next step is ending the parasites vehicle to fuk you over called Govt

    Not "We the People" but "I the Individual" ...that's what built America, individualism not collectivism or Stateism or taxation

    Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!