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Here's another article that matches perfectly to this one. Good post!
Perhaps of some interest that the biblical word for Separation is the same as the word for Holy: Kadosh.
We need to promote the understanding that the Constitution established a federal government that was intended to have as much influence on economic activities as it does on religious activities.
The Constitution is dead. Chaos is in control. The Empire is collapsing.
Don't just stand there, WITHDRAW YOUR CONSENT.
I am Chumbawamba.
This guy Steward Rhodes turned his back on July 4 Patriot when he was framed and arrested.
If anyone decides to actively persue this line do it with open eyes. "framed and arrested" is a real possibility.
Suggestions for strategy #1 Fuel cells are being commercialized now that run off natural gas that can keep isolated sections of the power grid energized. Natural gas is plentiful, easy to transport and often locally produced. Localized electrical production is hard to disrupt. Wireless transmission can keep sections of the internet functioning even if the outside switch is pulled.
#3 There isn't enough silver and gold to serve easily as currency but local sliver and gold backed electronic currencies are possible. Creative minds need to figure out how they would work.
#2 and 4 Mao incorrectly said that power comes from the barrel of a gun, power actually comes from the look of aquiescence in the eye of the person staring into the barrel of the gun. The good guys outnumber the bad guys so the only way bad guys win is if the good guys go along with their demands.
“This guy Steward Rhodes..” Stewart Rhodes is not just a good guy, he’s a great guy. It’s encouraging to see articles like this presented on ZH.
Something the diarist failed to discuss is the US military, which you might remember has cost us several trillion dollars. There's a reason its cost so much. Its because they're the best human killers on the planet, and you, believe it or not, are human. The US Army publishes demographic data on its web site. For 2008, the last year for which complete data is available, there were 110,410 recruits into the US Army. 24,660 of them came from the states comprising the Old South. About 32% were AfricanAmericans and LatinAmericans. I think that we can assume this is a rough assessment of the whole force, at least for discussion purposes. And this is a short discussion, because if anyone secedes and the US Army decides you are, in fact, not going to secede, then it is a given that you are not, in fact, going to secede. I suggest you save everyone a lot of time, and the day before any states secedes, please dig a number of graves equal to the number of citizens of that state who will fight for it.
I think you're Jefferson avatar is in conflict with your opinions. Do you see the conflict?
Real freedom is making every choice yourself.
I'm to lazy for that.
I just want somebody to take good decisions for me that suit all of us.
A 100% real democracy doesn't work and I don't need it.
But I do want to be taken care off in a good way when I retire, get sick and life in a society where my kids can walk outside in the dark without me having to worry.
Europe, America. It's all the same. Those 2 things are all that matters. When I was a kid, I never even heard about the kind of shit that happens these days.
Feeling safe and a helping hand when you're down and everybody would be satisfied.
And that's what we are losing this last decade. And that's what people want back.
All the rest doesn't matter. If those 2 things are met, I couldn't care less if a politician was corrupt. I WOULD ACTUALLY BE INSULTED IF HE MADE LESS MONEY THEN ME!!
"He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither."
"A free and open society is an ongoing conflict, interrupted periodically by compromises."
And as society is mostly run by "C" students, I don't expect it to be perfect.
That stuff that you are talking about, only seemd to start happening when the Nanny State started cropping up. You seem very eager to not actually live your life. I would suggest a solution, but I think you already know what it is.
? I do whatever I please.
I go whereever I please
I buy whatever I want
It does sound like freedom to me.
I don't even mind paying taxes, but I do want something in return. And that is the care when I need it. That's why I pay taxes. To get something for it in return.
And that's why I would protest.
I don't want to live in the forest, hunt chipmunks for food and kill a bear when I want to give my wife a new fur coat.
Name 1 thing that says I'm not a free man. 1 will do.
(carrying a gun so I can shoot people when I'm drunk isn't my idea of freedom by the way)
"I do whatever I please."
Rofl, no you don't.
"I go whereever I please"
"I buy whatever I want"
"It does sound like freedom to me."
Rofl, because you define freedom as "restrictions that I don't mind putting up with." I like you, but you're way off in a ditch here.
Actually, I kind of liked the old west type of laws. Everyone carrys and if someone steals your shit you shoot them in the face. Real time karma
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
"For me, politeness is a sine qua non of civilization."
"For me, politeness is a sine qua non of civilization."
People are much more considerate and do the right thing naturally for one another when we all carry
@ GordonGecko and his liking of wild west justice.
(sarc on) AH, you're a true romanticist! (sarc off).
Seriously, with all the firearms in the USA and people (like yourself?) who say they wouldn't be afraid of using them, it looks like the population might take a dramatic dive anytime soon, WTSHTF.
I believe one of the problems nowadays is the fact that people hide behind words, symbols and laws. They do dirt, rape, pillage and steal then get some euro-trained LAWyer to "get" them off knowing they are guilty. Karma will catch up to them both, whether you are an ignorant attorney with no morals or a thief void of any human values, both are not immune to universal law just because they don't believe in anything. I also believe one of those laws is the right to keep ones honor or take part in self defense. It's not a macho "You disrespecting me?" type of thing, it's an impeding on ones right as a spiritual being having a human experience type thing. If that is physically taken from me, I probably would resort to my natural fight or flight response.
SD, I understand your attitude. You are European. After a couple of devastating wars, Europeans have adjusted their thoughts on sovereignty and freedom (a long history of servitude to royalty also helps). So, I don't blame you or criticize your point of view. A house slave always thinks he has it better than the field slave. You believe you were born a subject.
Some of us, admittedly a smaller and smaller number, are born and bread sovereigns. We (and I am been presumptuous by expanding beyond my own beliefs), believe in absolute freedom for the individual. We believe that we are free to do as we wish. Without interference from anyone. Don't confuse this with anarchy. It is not. I am held by societal norms that say I will enjoy my freedom as long as I respect yours. Your freedom to be you includes my freedom to be free from you.
I am free to create with my hands and mind and trade with deserving men for the products of their hands and minds. In this process we enrich our own lives and the lives of those we freely trade with. If we fail to do so, free men will no longer trade with us. It is social Darwinism at its best.
We also understand that with freedom comes responsibility. If you don't work, you don't eat. If you chose to put poison in your veins, you are free to do so, don't demand I take responsibility for your decisions afterwards. I wont. If you injure other free citizens, you have broken the social compact and will be punished. At the most basic level, the punishment should fit the crime, but it is up to the injured party. Here is Texas, stealing a horse is still a capital offense. Why? Because if you stole a man's horse, you stole his means of production and transportation and put his family's life at risk. It is the basic premise that if you are voluntarily bound by basic norms, everyone else will also be bound by them. I will shake your hand and do what I promise because I expect the same from you. I will respect your health and property and demand you respect mine.
We believe in charity. But charity is when I open my heart and coin purse and help my brother. Charity is not when I allow a government to pick my pocket at gunpoint and help those who the elite class find worthy.
I believe in the sanctity of innocent life. An unborn child is not responsible for his mother's stupidity. Why should he pay for it with his life?
I believe in the death penalty. If you take an innocent life (and killing those who mean to kill you is not taking an innocent life) you forfeit yours.
I know I was born free. I was not born a subject.
Righteous. I could have written that myself. Thanks for saving me the time.
+10!. Very well said all around.
Fuckers who hop in their SUV just to go down to the corner store are talking about getting out of the "system".
This is pathetic to watch.
I drive an '89 Bronco, and the corner store is a seed depot. So piss off.
And just how do you know that these authors "hop in their SUV just to go down to the corner store"?
You would have thought that Adam Smith had killed off mercantilism once and for all, but it keeps rearing its ugly head, doesn't it? Trade makes us more economically secure, not less. Imagine for a moment that we returned to the Articles of Federation, and each state erected steep trade barriers against each other. Indiana (to pick a random state) would be much less economically secure. One bad drought, and the Hoosiers starve the following winter. With trade, they can obtain food from areas that didn't have their crops ravaged by bad weather and thus survive--something Smith noticed as far back as the 18th century. Trade doesn't reduce your options; it increases them. Just compare what you can get in a supermarket now vs just 15 years ago (and don't listen to the locavores' made-up, fictional history), or the vast number of auto makes now vs the 1970s.
Depends! 'Trade' under any circumstances makes us better? What if youre trading all your factories and jobs just for a loan? What are the conditions of the trade? See trade has to be beneficial to BOTH parties, not just 1.
That's nice, but trade of physical goods is only possible through cheap energy. I don't call a 3000-mile avocado economic security, I call it misallocation of resources.
Physical goods trade is all that will be left as there is no cheap energy... Cheap energy is part of the problem...
I grow corn and trade it for your chicken eggs - the energy needed for that trade will be substantially less than you shipping an advocadoe from israel to sell to joe blow in his hummer H2 that just drove to the store...
Trade will all be local... If you don't live in a climate to grow things like advocadoes... you won't have any... period...
"Cheap energy is part of the problem..."
The "problem" you are referring to, you idiot, is called "civilization".
And you are perfectly free to liberate yourself from this "problem". Just fucking sell your car, stop using electricity and gasoline, buy some undeveloped acreage and live the merry, merry, merry life of a neolithic brute. Why don't you already?
Civilization? So the past 2000 years, what was that? Sure things have changed, but he's right. The fact that we ignore our over use of a finite resource to run our way of life will be The very problem we have to work around in order maintain our "civilization".
Utter nonsense. Civilization is founded on trade. Those who invent new ways to enhance trade will prosper. Those who insist on remaining in some kind of medieval subsistence economy will suffer.
If you can produce the avocados locally and sell them just a cent/piece cheaper than the 3000-mile import, you are welcome to become an avocado billionaire. On the other hand, maybe the fact that you are not one already speaks something about the alleged "misallocation", huh?
On that note, watch globalization reverse as energy prices soar. High energy prices are the perfect trade barrier...
Agreed... global trade will shut down... it can't function with high energy prices, as the goods price will become unsustainable, people will riot etc. etc. when fuel food and shelter are unaffordable (with paper money anyways)
If rulers will just leave them alone, entrepreneurs will surmount almost every remaining obstacle and make trade flourish almost everywhere.
The state and its agents are THE problem; all other issues are minor in comparison.
+1 A certain percentage of humans just want a fucking pyramid built, and to be worshipped as living Gods. They seem to crop up every generation. Ave Caesar
No, watch energy markets use something other than dollars, watch new sources of energy get developed in countries where politics doesn't stymie innovation, and watch new methods of transport get developed. It's been going on for centuries, and it isn't stopping any time soon.
I've been waiting for this "civilized utopia" you've been talking about. Where is it and when will it start exactly?
Utopia? Who promised you a freeking utopia?
I'm just talking about people doing business and not being punish for the crime of doing so.
Oh I wasn't replying to you, while I agree with you, I won't hold my breath.
I'm just talking about people doing business and not being punished for the crime of doing so.
I hate seeing comments like this. Mercantilism is alive and well and practiced by almost every country except the United States. "bhut we have fwee twad agreemunts rite"? Get real. I know the current free trade agreements "free plunder for everyone" made cities like Detroit more secure. All the municipalities whose tax revenues have dropped by something like 25% since 2008 due to ultimately the outsourcing of massive amounts of middle class jobs are feeling more secure...I know, they are all useless looters right? The same looters that bled on the battle fields, paved the roads, took care of the sick, taught the next generations in the schools, served food, grew the food, yeah f*ck all of them. All their options have only just wondefully expanded right? They can buy cheap crap from China so that China can build up its military, what a freaking cool deal? And all you free traders are getting filthy rich right! Good for you, until China nationalizes all your assets to cover the US's debt default. It is all about money, and if you can move production over seas and f*ck all these guys that is just the way it is.
At one point their is going to be a big f*ck you in return, in this life or the next.
Yeah, the US is not Mercantilistic. Nope, not by any mean's. Unless you start talking to oil bearing countries that is...
Get off you high horse, you're too short for it.
Transnational corporations do not exclusively qualify as US companies, it takes more than a flag. And your little quip was a nice way to ignore the fact that mercantilism is practiced against the US economy by almost every other economy on earth. Industrial espionage, reverse engineering, dumping, soft barriers to entry, happens all the time. People like you are wilfully ignorant of this. Why? Probably because you are at the top of the pyramid scheme and benefit from it in the short term, just like US consumers did benefit from cheaper goods while 45,000+ factories each employing 500+ people disappeared, along with the wealth they generated, to the slave labor camps abroad. It is all about competition right? Sure, that is why we are seeing CEO pay raise at such a flat rate...so many market forces pressing on that pay structure...
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