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Guest Post: Goldman's Undisclosed Role in AIG's Distress

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Submitted by Janet Tavakoli of Tavakoli Structured Finance

 

 

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Tue, 11/10/2009 - 10:48 | 125739 m.g. turner
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What kind of con game is it where the people who get screwed are not even involved in the game? Only in America, land of the free (lunch) and home of the brave (protected few). Will we ever learn?

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 10:57 | 125744 BobPaulson
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No outrage yet. Like ENRON, too complicated for the proles to get mad about.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 12:50 | 125913 Anonymous
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In the late 1960's, John Lennon claimed that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus. There was a huge public outcry, especially in the U.S.

The Beatles never played in the U.K. again, and shortly thereafter went their separate ways. Something about the concept of "too big..."

Perhaps the squid has thus planted yet another seed for its own destruction.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 10:58 | 125745 Fish Gone Bad
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If Goldman Sachs is doing God's work, then God hates us all.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:37 | 125784 Anonymous
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He who has the GOLD, defines GOD for the rest of us.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 17:47 | 126388 VegasBD
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I am God.

You cannot prove I am not. Therefore, I am.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:13 | 125760 MinnesotaNice
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I think that there are no good words left in the English language to describe Goldman Sachs... perhaps someone knows a few choice words in another language that could add some depth to the description of Goldman Sachs' true character. 

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:23 | 125765 svendthrift
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Sure, we have appropriate vocab: Welfare Queen.

 

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:24 | 125768 m.g. turner
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......brutti stronzi, pezzi di merda, facce da culo, teste di cazzo,  mafiosi, camorristi, etc., etc.,

scusate.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 12:15 | 125836 Careless Whisper
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che cazzo? why are these "banks" and "insurance companies" hehe allowed to trade and underwrite derivatives? and do it with taxplaya backstop? anyone? anyone?

 

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 18:12 | 126426 mickey the piker
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il loro furbo proprio

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:13 | 125761 Anonymous
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Janet's right, of course, but I'm not sure I see any information in her article that hasn't been reported before (other than her personal contacts with GS & AIG--which just reinforce the known).

...just more of the same old crap from the TBTF....

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 15:40 | 126174 Anonymous
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I disagree, this piece cites specific examples in support of the claims that have been mentioned previously.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:34 | 125778 Zro
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Anyway to get a zerohedge-hosted link?

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:35 | 125781 Anonymous
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Remember Lloyd is doing God's work. Actually, if Satan went to a headhunter, I am sure he would be placed with Goldman as the perfect fit. Lloyd, the road to HELL is paved with good intentions. (Yours aren't even good)

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:40 | 125788 JohnKing
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Thank you Janet.

Here and everywhere else we get buried in charts, data, etc. but here is the one thing we need more of: naming the culprits. Taking the abstract and turning into "real" requires names and numbers. I can't think of any other crime reporting where they simply describe crimes but nary a word about the suspects. Thanks again, keep it up.

 

 

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:42 | 125791 SWRichmond
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+1

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:43 | 125793 SWRichmond
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Isn't basis arbitrage really just betting that the ratings are crap?  Smoking gun?

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:49 | 125801 Anonymous
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Tyler,
What is the end game here? What course of action do you propose the government/regulators take with GS?
It seems the time has come to declare the remedy.
Thanks

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 11:56 | 125814 Anonymous
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There are only 90 countries whose GDP is larger than this year's Goldman Sachs' Bonus pool; fully 100 countries GDPs are smaller.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 12:05 | 125821 Anonymous
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If God's work is hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, earthquakes, plagues and epidemics (aka Acts of God), then yes, Goldman Sachs is clearly doing God's work.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 12:14 | 125834 A Man without Q...
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I would dearly love to know which entity was dumb enough and big enough to sell GS protection on AIG in the size they needed.  Whoever this was, they owe a huge debt of thanks to the Treasury, especially Paulson.  

 

My suspicion is it was a SWF, but I don't have any evidence...

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 12:25 | 125858 Anonymous
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SWF seeks non-smoking teddy bear with beard and printing presses for good times, no commitments.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 12:47 | 125904 tip e. canoe
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i feel you getting warmer

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 13:30 | 125965 Anonymous
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What is the remedy?

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 13:49 | 125992 bruiserND
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For clarification Janet should have also mentioned with her article.

Putnam 2002- 01 was a Marsh Mc Lennon product and the mid September meltdown was triggered (among many other things) by Marsh Mc Lennon CP "breaking the buck".

This fact allowed Hank Paulson to extort & black mail executive branch and legislative branch leadership into an immediate payoff of $787 bilion aka the "Greenspan Put"

http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=216777

 rather than having any sort of normal appropriations hearings 

We also should look at fmr GSA Partner & fmr Secy of the Treasury Robert Rubin as a GSA plant on the Citi Bank board insisting that Thomas G. Maheres running the Citi Bank trading desk accelerate is credit default swap writing activities to ultimately destroy that institution.

Further it should be included in this paper that GSA was "given" a leg up on all its other competition by being exempted from FAS 157 mark to market accounting rules , those very same rules that were hyper accelerating all the other GSA competitors{except JPM} collateral losses.

Janet, you still owe me an autograph on my book

Wed, 11/11/2009 - 11:10 | 127016 tip e. canoe
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if you have hard evidence on Marsh & Mac, you would all of us an incredible service by posting it.

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 15:57 | 126203 UltimateRuler
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Goldman is the vessel of the Fed. What makes anyone think they'd ever be dismantled?

Tue, 11/10/2009 - 16:23 | 126251 thewhigs
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Isn't there ANYTHING ANYONE could do about this? There HAS to be fraud by GS, Paulson and Geithner (maybe even Congress) somewhere along the lines here. The people (read: tax payers and bagholders) have a right to know. This isn't national security.

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