Guest Post: Greece Is A Kleptocracy

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Landotfree's picture

"The game is over for the ECB"

Fixed it for you.

"The game is over for the whole system, just a matter of time"

There is no out for the Greeks, and eventually there will be no out for everyone else.

zaknick's picture

Purple haired, green dude Michael:

it's not just ur comments being deleted. ZH is not a real venue for discussion but click-bait with a catchy theme.

ZH is choking on bankster ......

lynnybee's picture

i read that comment last night by Michael, is this really true (deletion of comments) ?   I really like Michael, he's got guts & brains.    i have so little faith left in anything anymore, plz don't shake my faith in ZEROHEDGE, this website has really helped me understand & cope with the truth.   if "deletion" is true, i can't be here anymore.

ZerOhead's picture

Strange things going on lynnybee...

I have had a clone or two pop up over here, remember though... it's about 'the message'... not the messenger.

Oh... before I get 'dissappeared'... what was the deal with Michael's comments?

lynnybee's picture

Hi !    ...just saw this.    i do not remember what the topic at hand was, but, i do remember that Michael posted that his comments were being deleted & that is all i know.    Now, i really like Michael (actually, i really like everyone on ZEROHEDGE, they are the smartest people i've ever met) .   

& i just love this website, the education has been so important to someone like me who used to be dumb as they come.    i just can't believe that this website would engage in censorship or deletion.    .... sincerely

ZerOhead's picture

Gotcha kiddo! There is a difference between 'poor taste' (like mine) and inciting nasty things however. Michael may walk too fine a line at times.

I'm sure he'll be back. In some new form perhaps.

CH1's picture

Tyler is evidently quite patient.

If I had owned this playground, I would have booted him long ago.

i-dog's picture

I don't believe these occasional claims of "deleted posts". The kid either had a fat-finger moment, or his shrooms were off, or there was a server glitch.

Whenever I've seen a claim of a deleted post here, it's been made by a squealing dick or a newbie. I've only ever had 2 double posts here out of hundreds, and both times it was because I had hit 'save' twice. I've posted things that have had me worried about the black SUV arriving any minute for a 'chat' (seriously!), and I've seen the most hateful drivel directed at niggers, jooz, ragheads, chinks, and other assorted minorities, that haven't been deleted.

The claims of censorship are just attention seeking (or disinformation) ... unless this post gets deleted.......

Landotfree's picture

They delete comments and ban users.

LowProfile's picture

And yet, your post stands.

As does this post, where I call pus-bloated douchebag on you.

rufusbird's picture

Just don't say it is the Borg, or it will get deleted...

stewie's picture

Now why would they do that?  ZH againt opression, opressing.  

Tyler  I never adressed you personnaly, but here we go:  What do you have to say about that?



Michael's picture

I still see you around here from time to time LynnyB. Thanks for the compliment.

I did draw the picture of comments being deleted here at ZH yesterday. It is quite disturbing but don't fret and leave us just yet. This is still the most tolerant and influential blog on the Internet. For the most part members can have a good intellectual discussion on most any topic. Some people around here just can't stomach certain truths.

Alienated Serf's picture

its a technical error, if that. 

they leave up a lot more offensive stuff then you post up.

give tyler the benefit of the doubt for now.


lynnybee's picture true, Michael, so true.   the truth can be brutal.    the real truth of what is going on in this country is gut-wrenching, but, one does not dare speak the truth for fear of being ostricized or worse .... like junked !!!    i have a real fear of being junked, so i try to "keep it light, keep it nice."    sincerely.....

lincolnsteffens's picture

Michael may be smart but not smart enough to understand he has been fed on propaganda about race and religion. ZH is a great place to get timely news and opinion by people that analyze concepts. Michael gets on the Jews and Blacks with no analysis or one liners. He is probably hooked on "Pastor" Pete and reading some of the same books the Wahabists teach. His economic topics are relevant but he likes to stir up uncalled for hate. This is no different than Obama, Fallwell, Limbaugh, O'Reiley, Trumka, with their constant drone of their own self appointed superior rhetoric. Those guys are all smart butI rarely bother to listen them.

Michael's picture

So many mis-perceptions in your comment lincolnsteffens I'm not even going to waste my time picking it apart.

I'll just point out I have not used that J word in any of my posts for that past 4 months. Everyone already knows the score on that topic.

I'm a live and let live kind of guy and that's the way I'd like to be treated in return. I have no vested interests in monetary gain like those others you mentioned, I just want my country to function the lawful way it's supposed to.

Thank you all for your comments concerning the deletion of comments here. It's something we should be aware of.

Just so you know, there is nothing anyone can say here that would offend me.

A.W.E.S.O.M.-O 4000's picture

Just Greece or the whole fucking Western World?

ThisIsBob's picture

Well except for the bankers, who have already been paid generously for their assistance and who hopefully stashed some of it.

SheepDog-One's picture

Take Greece and multiply it 10,000X for USA.

Eally Ucked's picture

That's right, and he writes about Greece! He is afraid to say something about ole US?

MFL8240's picture

Right idea but its closer to x 1,000,000 for the USA sewer rats

Azannoth's picture

Those who don't accept social Darwinism the easy way, will be forced to accept Natural Darwinism the Hard way

JS1234's picture

What a great saying!  Did you make thet up yourself or get it from somewhere?

Azannoth's picture

Remember I have 200 IQ :)

ZerOhead's picture

Ancient Trojan Horse technology applied against the modern European Union. 

Simply Brilliant.

Pushed to the unsuspecting gates of Brussels by none other than Vampire Squidmaster Llyod Bank-fine of Goldman Sachs himself.

A stunning display of kleptocratic co-operation amongst peers for the ages.

Belgian Horse anyone?

falak pema's picture

only when Helen comes as a trimming...

ZerOhead's picture

Ahh... falak my good friend... developing a sense of humor I see! :)

falak pema's picture

wonders never seize, even in greece where they search for the golden fleece...of people's body ready to be served.

Pinky's picture

You got it - Brussels and the Squid used to be "frenemies." The facade fell apart maybe 2008ish, I'm guessing, but really the US grew tired of fighting Europe's battles a generation ago. Now that the gloves are off the EU/US (NATO) alliance is under enormous strain.

Euro replace the US dollar as reserve currency? Squid don't THINK so!  The EU is getting a taste of its own medicine, and a negotiated settlement between the "Crown" and "Kraut" factions is the only thing that will save our collective bacon.

I'm fairly certain the Greek PM knew the score, and I'm frankly surprised the "European Soviet" didn't see it coming from a mile away:

(Wikipedia) George Papandreou was born in Saint Paul, Minnesota, United States, where his father, Andreas Papandreou, held a university post. His mother is American-born Margaret Papandreou, née Chant. He was educated at schools in Toronto (King City Secondary School), at Amherst College in Massachusetts, Stockholm University, the London School of Economics and Harvard University.


SheepDog-One's picture

Oh now we get the lectures about how kleptocracy is bad...well it wasnt so bad when it was all humming along in its infancy and 401K's and pensions and stocks were growing exponentially with small monthly add ins! 

I dont feel sorry for communist fascist Greece and their people, just like I dont feel sorry for communist fascist US and their people. They all knew what was coming, but liked the free EZ money BS all these years now its unsustainable and broken and a lot of tough lessons have to be learned the hardest way. Stupid humans.

Americant Expat's picture

Sorry you can't lump everyone together like that, it doesn't work like that. Infants and youngins don't have the capacity to understand the system plus they're indoctrinated to misunderstand it, so it hardly seems fair to lump their suffering in with the rest. Yes, their parents might have known better but to have little empathy for the people who will ultimate catch the can that's been kicked to them by others is unfair. Communist this facist that doesn't mean it's in their DNA and born deserving of a good fucking over.

anony's picture

Exactly.  The vast majority likely fit into the category of innocents.

People who naively trust their government. Like many of the elderly too brain fried to have kept up with all the ways their government ====in complicity with Wall Street shmendricks=====have been able to screw them to the wall.

Hugh_Jorgan's picture

If you are willfully ignorant, you cannot rightfully call yourself a victim of anything. Everyone grows up and CAN learn the truth about what sounds "too good to be true"...

Things that go bump's picture

What is this willful ignorance?  Not everyone has the same sources of information available to them or the capacity to make use of what information is available.  Many can't even make the simplest extrapolation from information they do get.  If you see a small child with a dime and you offer to trade them a nickel for it, telling them that it is a bigger coin and so must be worth more, and the child makes that trade, is the child responsible for being conned or is it excused from responsibility by its ignorance?  Caveat emptor makes for lousy ethics.  One of the jobs that was entrusted to the government, a job that they actually did well at one time, was the protection of the public from such cons.  

Urban Redneck's picture

The government was also entrusted with education once, the result has been ignorance of the electorate (regardless of whether it is willful ignorance).  The electorate keeps empowering the very thieves who plunder the nation's wealth, and then they want a "do over"?  In order to vote you must be an adult and responsible for your actions.


RobotTrader's picture

OK, enough on Greece, its old news.

Time to jump in an buy some stocks.

A year from now, Greece will be totally forgotten, just like Tunesia, Egypt, etc.

And the sheep will be once again power-chugging Monster Energy, buying Fossil watches, eating $7 gourmet burritos, watching NASCAR and American Idol.

SheepDog-One's picture

I applaud Tyler for revoking your chart and picture posting he should go the next step and ban your 1 trick pony ass from posting at all.

luckylogger's picture

i always looked forward to robo's

MisterMousePotato's picture

A week or so ago, someone pointed out that all of Robo's posts are actually satire. So, why omit the </sarc> tag at the end of the post? Well, even Robo's most ardent critics have to admit that a lot of intelligent conversation routinely follows his posts, which, I believe, might not have been the case had it been obvious that he was simply being provocative. Viewed thus, his posts actually make a lot more sense. Inadvertently or otherwise, Robo has propelled the conversation forward, if only by the responses to his posts.

Corn1945's picture

Right. Everyone said that a year ago and here we are, dealing with the same mess that is getting worse.

SheepDog-One's picture

And people believe we can just go from daily $8 billion free cash injections to cold turkey, and everything just will humm along smoothly from here on out? Total delusion.

topcallingtroll's picture

My vde is up from 105.54
My spy is flat at 127.

So far it hasnt hurt to step out of cash earlier than i planned, but we may have already had the post qe2 correction.

We shall see.

I am with you robo on this one.

anony's picture


A succinct synopsis of the state of play.

Raymond Reason's picture

@robot trader:  Your gambling strategy is like that of the male black widow. 

kito's picture

funny how everyone junks robo, yet pms have not replaced fiat currency, the stock market is still hanging around 12,000. there is some truth to robo.

Raymond Reason's picture

Understood.  But my point is that the male black widow does well for himself for a while...

But ultimately, its a bad trade.   

NOTaREALmerican's picture

Re:  And the sheep will be once again power-chugging Monster Energy, buying Fossil watches, eating $7 gourmet burritos, watching NASCAR and American Idol.


The sociopaths win.   They are simply the human predators.   There's always gotta be predators and prey.    The trick to survival is to either be a predator or - if you're not smart enough - to at least be aware that the predators exist.