Guest Post: How Much Would It Cost To Buy Congress Back From Special Interests?

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Thu, 06/30/2011 - 12:55 | 1415974 gdogus erectus
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"bout a hundred dollars"

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:02 | 1415996 camaro68ss
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bout a $100 hooker

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:12 | 1416043 gdogus erectus
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No, seriously - 140,000,000 workers in the US.  Multiplied by $100 ....

 

Just mail your $100 to:

TTFO (Throw The Fucks Out)

PO Box 2586

Coeur d'Alene, ID  83815

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:14 | 1416051 mayhem_korner
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Why not pay 'em in food stamps?

Let's see...45 Million times...

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:56 | 1416432 wanklord
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Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. These mules clearly fit in one of Leo Strauss'(*) categories of society: the Vulgar Many

"The vulgar many, are lovers of wealth and pleasure. They are selfish, slothful, and indolent. They can be inspired to rise above their brutish existence only by fear of impending death or catastrophe."

The sooner the US economy collapses, the better, so these brutes will finally learn NOT to live beyond their means.

 

* German Philosopher (1899-1973)

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:12 | 1416489 Conrad Murray
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former KGB agent who was trained in subversion techniques. He explains the 4 basic steps to socially engineering entire generations into thinking and behaving the way those in power want them to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:49 | 1416591 66Sexy
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I like the idea.. really, i do. But it would be much more economical to set up sniper kill teams 'til  either they learn to fear the public again, or one of "us" gets in there...

After alll.. we cook their meals, we iron their clothes, we guard them while they sleep..

The problem is not continuing bribery, it's enforcement. They think they have the enforcment in pocket to protect them and enforce the laws they pass against us. Without enforcement, it is alll just top-bottom jibberish and lip flappng. In reality, thats all it is now anyway.

What if enforcement as whole (including the police and US military) suddenly supported the constitution and the people - instead of corrupt politicians, globalist corporations, and international bankers?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 19:39 | 1417348 chumbawamba
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Thanks for suggesting the one true viable solution: just kill the mother fuckers and be done with it.  And then go after anyone who wants to "fill the vacuum".

Turn DC into a "no go" free-fire zone.  If you so much as look outside your window, an appropriately stationed sniper will take you out.  Once DC is devoid of humanity, freedom rings.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 01:04 | 1417979 EmergentMind
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I don't think that murdering is the solution.  Politicians and bureaucrats multiply like rabbits you see, and they just love any excuse to ramp up the police-state further.  The real problem is the system that enables people to have these positions of power.  It attracts and/or creates corruption.  These same people who become power and control freaks would probably be quite decent if they were just kindergarten teachers.  Fix the environment, and behavior will follow.  Trying to fix behavior (via murder or otherwise) is only working on the symptoms and not the cause.  What kind of environment would create good people in all levels of society?  I believe the answer has to do with a system that does not allow for the accumulation of wealth/power, and the master/slave paradigm that follows.  Decentralization must be a key element, as well as the redesign or elimination of the monetary system.  I have yet to see how a monetary system can be ethical (in the long term), so perhaps doing away with it is the best idea.  Besides, we are the only species on Earth that uses money, and look how fucked up it has made us.  The "Zeitgeist Movement" is intriguing in this regard, however I am not sure that I agree with it's top-down approach.  I'm more of a bottom-up kind of guy, because all of nature has evolved in a bottom-up approach.  Anyways, my main point here is that looking at individual behavior is not what we should be focusing on.  We need to take a broader perspective and look at how the environment encourages certain types of behavior, and find ways to change the environment. 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:52 | 1416208 HungrySeagull
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Nothing at all. Just stop the Special Interest Lobbying entirely. Outlaw them outright in DC. The more quiet the Congress has the faster it can focus and get work done.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:10 | 1416246 blindfaith
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A better idea is to buy them for what they ARE worth,  and then sell them for what they THINK they are worth, and we would have enough to pay off the national debt.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 23:25 | 1417820 Joseph Jones
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Or as Warren Pollack suggested, outlaw both major parties for all national elections. 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:18 | 1416039 monkeyshine
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In Philadelphia, it's worth fifty bucks.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:24 | 1416072 ShaneAshton
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Some people laugh...others need an explanation.

I'll give y'all a hint....Dan Akroyd utters these famous words.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:36 | 1416133 A Nanny Moose
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You don't seem to know Diddley.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:45 | 1416165 Gubbmint Cheese
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But.. it tells time simultaneously in Monte Carlo, Beverly Hills, London, Paris, Rome and Gstaad!!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:47 | 1416186 Gully Foyle
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gdogus erectus

Everybody misses the underlying problem, it ain't about the money. People either control themselves or they control others. Those who need to control others are those with serious issues.

We ain't speaking about healthy mentally sound people. These are deeply flawed individuals, maybe even Sociopaths.

The money is only gravy.

Unfortunately there is no way to seperate those who crave power from the machine that delivers it to them. They slip past any test established to keep them in check. They game the system for their benefit and the publics detriment.

If you want to fix the system you need to remove people, not money.

 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:03 | 1416242 gdogus erectus
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Hence the name of my newly formed non-profit organization!  TTFO  But seriously - you are correct.  It's just that there are plenty of guys with good intentions that go into politics and find out it's a cesspool.  If you at least took the money out of the system, it would be like draining the oil out of the crankcase.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:17 | 1416300 tarsubil
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You should start in org with the acronym STFITH.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:34 | 1416818 Piranhanoia
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I used to believe that. It has to be like the draft. The person for the job is not going to want it.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 17:18 | 1416965 rosiescenario
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A+...IMHO that is just how our founding fathers looked at serving in the government...it would be more like jury duty...

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 23:08 | 1420754 I did it by Occident
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Yeah, I often think we'd be better off in a "randomocracy"  that's right, just like jury duty, people's names would be drawn out of a pool of eligible voters and they would be sent to DC for 2 years.   It couldn't be worse than what we have now  I bet. 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:12 | 1416256 JohnG
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Ummmm, what do you mean by "maybe even sociopaths?"

 

Of course they are, with a very few exceptions, the lot of them.

And bullets are much less expensive and very effective.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:33 | 1416579 JW n FL
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Amen! Preach it from the Mountain Tops!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:23 | 1416547 NOTaREALmerican
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Re: maybe even Sociopaths.

Hey,  sociopaths are the highest evolved humans.   They are the predators of the dumbasses.    If you don't thin-the-herd it dies.   That's why we need sociopaths,  so that America can be great and glorious again.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:58 | 1416907 Manthong
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Raising $5 bilion to buy back the Senate is an interesting idea.

I'd contribute if it came with a movement to repeal the 17th Ammendment as part of the deal.

You won't have a durable fix of the Senate until you do that, it will always remain for sale.

If the Senators were appointed by the states as the founders stipulated, you would have to buy all of the states to get control of the Senate and that's not doable.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 23:16 | 1420760 I did it by Occident
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yeah, that should be done, it was the only structural check which guaranteed the 9th and 10th amendments.  After that was done away with the federal spending exploded.  Before that, it was manageable very low percentage of GDP.  Then after 1913, it explodes, what a coincidence! 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:11 | 1416497 ba dum tiss
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bout tree fiddy!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:24 | 1416533 Imminent Collapse
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Just because they have been bought by special interests for such a paltry sum doesn't mean that when you up the ante that special interests won't pony up with more money.  Competition does that, especially when the amount they are making by owning the government is so huge.  Right now buying off our elected officials is the cheapest bribe in world.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:01 | 1415994 richard in norway
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outstanding!!!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:30 | 1416118 JW n FL
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It is Time that "We the Sheepeople" Take Our Country Back! from the Lobby Whores and the Bankers!

 

They are ALL Guilty of Treason! against the United States of America! they ALL have wiped their asses with the Constitution!

 

The Lobby Whores and the Bankers NEED TO GO! We need to send a message that Americans will not forget in 100 years! So that this scum never again robs "We the Sheepeople" of their Freedom and Money!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:06 | 1416481 MFL8240
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Agree! When does this start?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:29 | 1416552 NOTaREALmerican
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After the next election.    The new guys will be better than the current guys and clean things up.    It's totally different this time.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 15:32 | 1416574 JW n FL
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well another brother from another mother is found! Howdy Bro!

 

ALL of them! Them being, equaling.. Lobby Whores and Bankers are the same.. the old guy is the new guys is same as the old guy!

 

 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:02 | 1415998 mayhem_korner
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My strategy (repeated from prior):

Enable Congress to share in a one-time 10% of the net spending cuts they can achieve, with three conditions:

1) They must vote in the affirmative

2) They must resign

3) They will be afforded witness protection status.

I believe we could have the chambers cleared in 45 minutes, about $600B of spending wiped out, and a whole new slate to elect.

:D

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 14:05 | 1416235 Steroid
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Your suggestion seems reasonable. However, this is the US of A. First thing is the price discovery to the American model of "if you can't buy them kill them". This article was just the introduction to this conclusion.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:09 | 1416002 Cognitive Dissonance
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That's $5 billion to buy the Senate.

That's $8.7 billion to buy the House of Representatives.


Chump change. I would have thought Congress would have held out for some real money. I'm so disappointed.

However I am willing to begin collecting money from my fellow citizens to buy Congress back.....minus my 2/20 fee of course. :>)

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:27 | 1416075 hedgeless_horseman
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A tall order, perhaps, but certainly not impossible, if we're willing to spend the money to not just match special interest contributions to campaigns but steamroll them.

Sorry, but no amount of money could buy back a former Chamber of Commerce Executive from business interests...

Rep. Kevin Brady (R-TX 8th District)

8th term Republican from Texas 8th District.

Previous Occupation: Chamber of Commerce Executive

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:32 | 1416110 Cognitive Dissonance
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Thanks HH,

I was wondering where I put my butt ugly bowling ball.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:49 | 1416176 hedgeless_horseman
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To his credit, my Congressman is hard working, and loyal to those that put him in office.  I believe that he does reflect and represent his constituency fairly well. 

“Every nation has the government it deserves.” 
Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821)

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:51 | 1416203 Cognitive Dissonance
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To his credit, my Congressman is hard working, and loyal to those that put him in paid for the office.  I believe that he does reflect and represent his paying constituency fairly well. 

I caught the sarcasm and wanted to add my own.

Fixed it for ya. :)

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:31 | 1416123 JW n FL
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Rep. Kevin Brady (R-TX 8th District)

8th term Republican from Texas 8th District.

Previous Occupation: Chamber of Commerce Executive

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Guilty of Treason! String him up!

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:57 | 1416221 hedgeless_horseman
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They certainly are not hiding anything.

From its headquarters near the White House, the Chamber maintains a professional staff of hundreds of the nation’s top policy experts, lobbyists, lawyers, and communicators. Special initiatives covering energy, infrastructure, education and training, and workforce rules help drive the pro-business agenda.

 
http://www.uschamber.com/about#mission

 

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 16:33 | 1416830 Piranhanoia
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anyone got any string?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:54 | 1416196 Geoff-UK
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Another idiotic suggestion from CHS.  It presumes Congress would STAY bought--they would simply up their bribe number from AIG/GS/JPM/et al.

 

A better suggestion would be figuring a way to hire Mafia hit men to....but I've said too much already.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:52 | 1416210 Cognitive Dissonance
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You could probably purchase radiated Yakuza cheaper. Just a thought.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:07 | 1416004 12ToothAssassin
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Horribly flawed logic - The price will just go up with competition but corps will always have more money to throw around.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:13 | 1416029 eurusdog
Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:46 | 1416161 A Nanny Moose
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Now you are talking. Fear of the mob. Implicit, and explicit.

No more effing Praetorian Guard.

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 13:24 | 1416069 NotApplicable
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Especially the financial corps with access to free money. I guess he doesn't understand that's how they were purchased in the first place.

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