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Guest Post: Is Hydrocarbon Man The Next Terrorist Target?
Submitted by James Stafford of the Global Intelligence Report
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Crude to the moon
Yes, but the paradox of diminishing supply is that demand and thus the price of crude will fall, eventually... But by this time however, energy will be rationed both globally and nationally... Oil prices today far exceed the energy equilibrium required to allow real economic growth (by real i mean over consumption/waste growth)... Growth that is completely dependent upon overproduction in a monetary (energy) profit system... Once the coming decade plays itself out, the world will have more production capacity than can be consumed as the economic profit model of scarce energy allocation becomes history... Production efficiency is being forced upon us, there is no escape, and given that the vast majority of productionis waste, we have a lot of efficiency to work with in the future... Only problem is that most of todays employment will cease to exist too... Everyone will receive an energy credit ration, most people will volunteer waht little physical labor is needed, that is the future... Entropy can be a real bitch but it will force a change for the better ;-)...
Sorry but the only way your scenario plays out is if their is a subsequent and severe decrease in the overall world population, especially those countries that wish to improve their overall standard of living. No population or country for that matter is just going to stop using hydrocarbon energy or even limit it's use unless through forcible rationing. The energy bonanza is over, our advanced societies depend on it continuosly as do the developing societies of China and India. This is a race to the energy bottom at least as far as hydrocarbon energy is concerned, which our entire modern world owes it's existence to. Bitches!
"No population or country for that matter is just going to stop using hydrocarbon energy or even limit it's use unless through forcible rationing."
Really? You mean, being poor, like say Zimbabwe, isn't going to be a deterent to consumption? You're effectively saying that a string CAN be pushed on. I'm thinking that that belief has been pretty much discredited.
interesting list : gas prices around the world
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/gas-prices-around-the-world/19543148/
in caracas, it's 6 cents a gallon...god bless citgo.
My wife calls me Methane Man.
No, we in the west are going to take a cut in our standard of living so that we can raise the standards of others... Not that I believe ending this disaster of an economic system will mean a decreased standard of living, unless you mean no more McDonalds, gucci jeans, NYSE, Goldmansachs and walmart equates to a lowering of living standards??? What is wealth to you???
I never said that we will stop using hydrocarbon energy, rather it will be rationed (on a global per capita basis) and put to productive use building products, energy tech and infrastructure that actually has a future... And what do you mean by forced rationing? Nature will is doing that anyway, its just whether we choose to nuke each other fighting for it, or share it and use it productively to increase the wealth of all...
Yes, this chapter of wasting finite resources is over... But I'm not so fatalistic... We all hate cheney and bush too but they knew one thing... A mad military free for all over the last great energy reserves of the world is global suicide... America's hand on the energy tap was and is absolutely essential if mankind is to progress from here...
Yes, the driving force of our physical, social and economic evolution has always been the increased consumption of energy... It always will be... That is why sustainable energy tech and economic production efficiency is so important, if we burn through our reserves of stored sunlight, mankind will never again have the energy reserves needed to progress into an unlimited energy wealth future... Devolution...
But we have allies who are only to aware of our energy predicament... Everyone hates Obama now, but that will change... It is no mistake that an unknown marxist became president... He may be a puppet for a progressive elite, but he is there because he is a skilled puppet master himself... He confirmed the elites knowledge of our challenge in his Gulf oil speech, peak oil from the presidents mouth to the world and not one out of a thousand got the fucking message...
What more does one need to know before they wake the fuck up? That the only point of the healthcare bill was to give the government the legal mandate and responcibility to provide americans with health care once the profit system is history and the insurance companys cannot help you??? Yes it appears to be a great win for as insurance industry, too bad for them that they don't have a future... Insurance bosses will be building solar panels like joe 6 pack...
And what about the organizing for America volunteer bullshit, does he need to draw a giant picture before Americans understand that 9/10 wont have a job at walmart or burger king in ten years... Everyone will receive an energy income to provide for needs and what labor is required will be shared amongst those who according to education and skills... Doctors will still be doctors and joe 6 pack will be doing whatever else needs doing whilst having more time for family, community, education and the economic freedom to pursue what makes him happy... I could go on but I can't be fucked and everyone thinks I'm crazy anyway but I will get the last laugh, and so will Obama... He is not interested in a second term, what does that tell you... My bet is that once this shithouse goes up in flames, Obama will address the nation and the world (yeah dah) and he will lay it out for all to see... Either we come together as one in shared purpose and resource equality, or devided we will slowly perish fighting for the last scraps of industrial civilization... I would bet my skinny virgin ass on it haha ;-)...
Oh and as for the implied overpopulation, that is not a problem when we have global energy equality... When we liberate the poor from the energy profit system of scarcity, women especially, birthrates fall...
Also, check out this vid and take note of the mention of the federal reserve, why would they pay to study human motivation... Getting the big picture yet? There is order in the chaos... If one understand that the real value (purchasing power) of money is its energy value, things begin to make a lot more sense...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc
Space based solar. Coming your way. Fuck the oil punks.
Roach-
... er ... probably on some planet other than earth. Here on earth (absent government intervention such as in solar and wind), less demand makes for lower price, greater demand makes for higher price or switching to alternatives, or to conservation.
At least in the areas that I'm familiar with, industrial efficiency has been internalized so that organizations brutally self-examine their operations, knowing that the competition is doing the same. Organizations that don't figure this out don't really matter--they'll be gone. So the forcing is healthy and tough.
huh? Spend money (result of physical and intellectual success) on waste?
Then nonsense about entropy.
Do you have a PhD. in economics?
- Ned
Are you fucking kidding me??? Its comments like that make me realise how fatally flawed economics is... Why bother with any rebuttal, I could squeeze more logic from the first 21 year old blond I see shooting jager bombs at a bar...
You must be one of those people that believe the free market and the profit system will simply adjust to $100, $200, $400, $1200 oil??? Ethanol, wind and solar farms will just pop into existence and with 100.1 net energy gains by consumer demand alone right... Is this the ghost of Milton Friedman??? Rising energy prices do not work like rising apple prices buddy, we can not simply substitute for oranges...
The price induced demand destruction for goods and services and the resulting mass unemployment will destroy demand for the very scarce resource that caused it... The first victims will be the discretionary goods/services producers (hello China, India) you know, the industries that constitute the vast majority of global production and employment... The industries that consume the largest slice of our global energy budget??? Why is the developed world consuming less oil than in 2008, hmmm??? But your right, prices won't fall as oil will not be available at any price unless you are given access to rations (defence, police, agriculture, transport, mining etc. etc.)... It seems like every month, new studies by highly credible sources are verifying my logic, try the google search engine and read some for yourself or better yet, let history be the judge ok... I'll chat in 5/10 years when we see how much your education is really worth...
By definition, decreased supply will produce decreased demand in a free market. The arbiter of equilibrium, however, will be price.
Sorry, but that was a painful waste of time. What a rambling mess of portentious gas.
I couldn't help but think about Mad Max while I was reading this.
I couldnt help thinking of this song from They Might B Giants
Particle man, particle man
Doing the things a particle can
What's he like? It's not important
Particle man
Is he a dot, or is he a speck?
When he's underwater does he get wet?
Or does the water get him instead?
Nobody knows, Particle man
Triangle man, Triangle man
Triangle man hates particle man
They have a fight, Triangle wins
Triangle man
Universe man, Universe man
Size of the entire universe man
Usually kind to smaller man
Universe man
He's got a watch with a minute hand,
Millenium hand and an eon hand
When they meet it's a happy land
Powerful man, universe man
Person man, person man
Hit on the head with a frying pan
Lives his life in a garbage can
Person man
Is he depressed or is he a mess?
Does he feel totally worthless?
Who came up with person man?
Degraded man, person man
Triangle man, triangle man
Triangle man hates person man
They have a fight, triangle wins
Triangle man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyPvzKsiABg
Hydrocarbon man
where is geopol to weigh in on this? he's usually got an opinion regarding false flag terror, the energy markets and the Trilateralists
No offense meant to the author, it is well researched, and well written, but, when was this report written? It seems dated. There have been many oil pipeline attacks recently, this year alone there were four attacks, just google "oil pipeline attacks" for the stories.
Why would islamic terrorists attack oil pipelines anyway? Oil is the funding source of their global jihad.
"Why would islamic terrorists attack oil pipelines anyway? Oil is the funding source of their global jihad."
You assume that attacks would be from "islamic 'terrorists'." The US government wages a full-out war on drugs -War on Drugs- yet the CIA uses drugs to fund many of its covert operations. And, as has been widely shown, the US goverment has engaged in false-flag operations. Cui Bono? Likely most all the power players.
Thanks for responding to me. Yes, all great points.
Maos Dog, according to footnote #1, “This article is a much shorter version of a paper presented at Strategy 2001, Rosslyn, Virginia, November 30, 2001. The longer paper is available from ISSA/GIS.”
Here is the URL for a version of the article that includes the footnotes:
http://www.globalintelligencereport.com/articles/Is-Hydrocarbon-Man-the-...
Tyler. Not really. It's the flip side of the coin to keep the status quo going.
New World Order Explained
http://windfarms.wordpress.com/2008/03/15/agenda-21-explained/
Think about if someone is in an alley & someone pulls a gun to their head. The victim will spin grand stories of prosperity. Assailant will comply. No different than feeding a hungry lion in the cage.
Setup: Europe - Mumbai style multi city attack intercepted? Worry over Iran retialition for electronic warfare? Chinese/Japanese dust up has Okinawans falling in line? US on high alert?
First things first.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703882404575521034043471518.html?mod=WSJ_hps_MIDDLETopStories
They have tried to blow up Ras Tanura already and got caught!
Come on... No one's going to insinuate "Tearist" strikes are TPTB plots to generate fear in the populous, to rationalize imperial campains? Or is it just to obvious?
"It is no mistake that an unknown marxist became president... He may be a puppet for a progressive elite, but he is there because he is a skilled puppet master himself... He confirmed the elites knowledge of our challenge in his Gulf oil speech, peak oil from the presidents mouth to the world and not one out of a thousand got the fucking message..."
Good grief. Whatever intelligent arguments you may have had got lost in the wingnuttia. Obama...corporatist yes...Marxist...um no.
Dinesh D'Souza's new book revealing in this regard. - Ned
Marxist Obama:
"Can we, the people, take control of the means of production? Can we change business so that profit, that which you add to production and subsequently stolen from you, remains yours? Can we forcibly make these changes with violence, introduce baby farms, ban all religion, bring an end to all forms of family and take away the concept of 'ownership'? Yes. We. Can."
I must have missed that speach.
I agree, he may well have a point, but whatever it was got lost in the hyperbole.
Why have the pipelines in that part of the globe not been targets of international terrorism to date?
My this statement really does have the blush of embedded indictment. It's literally an IED of suggestive nefariousness whose fuse is simply lit by you asking "Why?" and simplistically concluding:
"Of Course! Why the terrorists (nebulously defined by the articles own admission) in the ME are just protecting themselves!!"...well close...the terrorists are in control it's just not the official conspiracy terrorists...
But wait, if it takes this much to convince you that oil is not abundant and reliably accessible and is in fact the opium of evil doers then I guess the usual suspects will have to ensure that it will happen to effect artificial scarcity and get you all on board the green machine. Well, if that's what it takes....
Think of the next phase as end-game herding of the sheeple onto 'greener' pastures and smaller corrals by the usual sheep dogs.
No Blood For Chlorophyll!
Hmmmm.... would the real reason it hasn't happened so far also be because the primary shareholders in international terrorism today are a rogue Militaristic-Criminal Bankster-Industrial-Gulag-plex hell-bent on cartelizing world resources and reducing the planet's population for their crazed cult Ill-looney-nazi masters?...a n d....maybe they're just not ready yet?
This post reads like a publicity news wire but its pre-positioning logic, conclusion and blame seems like a land mine waiting to be detonated by the next wave of attacks...
If something like this does happen, expect it to be extremely organized with military precision yet seemingly crazy and of course occurring on a numerologically distinct date. Order from chaos but with a cult twist. That's just how they roll.
Should have called the article Hydroponic Man
Yergin is a cornucopian and should be ignored.
The calculus of domestic Eco-terrorist fringe attacks on Hydrocarbon Man have most surely produced attacks on the network of high pressure gas and oil pipelines, storage and refineries. How would we know? Television news coverage and terrorist groups taking credits for the attacks are their staple in trade. Intelligence agencies will sooner resort to clandestine mercenaries and trained operatives. No news here, move along.....
I don't mind being a hydrocarbon man -- stone age man and bronze age man had a hard time getting chicks.
Terrorists could attack and idle targets in the Middle East critical to oil for the West, but that would be hurting themselves. The fact that they have not done this says a lot about who they are. It has only been done on a consistent basis in the Niger Delta where the means of oil production is in dispute.
I'll keep this simple - we've entered the decline phase of production of oil. Oil is our God. Most people can't comprehend how critical oil and other FFs are to our economy and life. Try this. Don't use any fossil fuels today. If you can't do that, then imagine all prices tripled. Gasoline, diesel, electric, manufactured goods that are energy intensive to manufacture, and so on. Now imagine them at 10 times the price. Now wait a few years and they will be there.
Oil production enterring a permanent decline explains 911, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iranian drum beating, the DHS, the KSA getting a recent arms shipment and discontinuing visas, quadruple oil prices in 9 years, the KSA's inability to produce more during the 145 run up, and pretty much every major event you see on the world stage.
Remember the Chinese captain and the Japanese? It's about oil and gas, not the rocky islands allegedly in dispute.
It's the elephant in the room. We're starting to run out of oil.
The largest problem facing acceptance of this dismal fate is the lack of any scientific background of most Americans. They'll here "peak oil production" and the first thing out of their mouths will be "alternatives." No concept of the energy density of FFs and the ease of extraction. Or you'll hear "200 years of coal". No examination of that number, where it came from, or exactly how expensive it would be to drive your car on coal-derived liquid fuel.
As I said in a different thread in response to a man who said "many of us at zerohedge have been preparing for . . . . for a couple years."
I've got a bigger secret. The economy can be managed. The economy can, after much turmoil, be fixed and reset. Maybe after a massive depression, but it can be fixed.
Declining oil is forever. This is a once in history event.
I've shared my secret with you. Now you have it. Take the time to think about it and look at the science behind it, and it shouldn't take long to figure out that we in whole-heapum trouble. Bullets and dried food trouble well beyond what a failed currency and failed govt. will cause.
Everybody chill. Peak Oil is a myth.
so oil is ¿infinite?
cool! rubber duckies forever....
Both "The Prize" and "Commanding Heights" were excellent books.
"Everyone knows where we have been. Let's see where we are going!
It was once said that "gold and oil can never flow in the same direction". If the current price of oil doesn't change soon we will no doubt run out of gold.
This line of thinking is very real in the world today but it is never discussed openly. You see oil flow is the key to gold flow. It is the movement of gold in the hidden background that has kept oil at these low prices. Not military might, not a strong US dollar, not political pressure, no it was real gold. In very large amounts. Oil is the only commodity in the world that was large enough forgold to hide in. Noone could make the South African / Asian connection when the question was asked, "how could LBMA do so many gold deals and not impact the price". That's because oil is being partially used to pay for gold! We are going to find out that the price of gold, in terms of real money ( oil ) has gone thru the roof over these last few years. People wondered how the physical gold market could be "cornered" when it's currency price wasn't rising and no shortages were showing up? The CBs were becoming the primary suppliers by replacing openly held gold with CB certificates. This action has helped keep gold flowing during a time that trading would have locked up.
(Gold has always been funny in that way. So many people worldwide think of it as money, it tends to dry up as the price rises.) Westerners should not be too upset with the CBs actions, they are buying you time!
So why has this played out this way? In the real world some people know that gold is real wealth no matter what currency price is put on it. Around the world it is traded in huge volumes that never show up on bank statements, govt. stats., or trading graph paper.
The Western governments needed to keep the price of gold down so it could flow where they needed it to flow. The key to free up gold was simple. The Western public will not hold an asset that going nowhere, at least in currency terms. ( if one can only see value in paper currency terms then one cannot see value at all ) The problem for the CBs was that the third world has kept the gold market "bought up" by working thru South Africa! To avoid a spiking oil price the CBs first freed up the publics gold thru the issuance of various types of "paper future gold". As that selling dried up they did the only thing they could, become primary suppliers! And here we are today. In the early 1990s oil went to $30++ for reasons we all know. What isn't known is that it's price didn't drop that much. You see the trading medium changed. Oil went from $30++ to $19 + X amount of gold! Today it costs $19 + XXX amount of gold! Yes, gold has gone up and oil has stayed the same in most eyes.
Now all govts. don't get gold for oil, just a few. That's all it takes. For now! When everyone that has exchanged gold for paper finds out it's real price, in oil terms they will try to get it back. The great scramble that "Big Trader" understood may be very, very close.
Now my friends you know where we are at and with a little thought , where we are going. "
I suggest that everyone read this;
http://www.usagold.com/goldtrail/archives/another1.html
FWIW, the author is incorrect in his Sherlock Holmes reference. Holmes uses "the curious incident of the dog in the night-time" to help solve the case in the story "Silver Blaze," not in "The Hound of the Baskervilles."
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