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Guest Post: JP Morgan 2009 Q3 Results – Miracle or Mirage?

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Submitted by Muhammad Refeeq

 

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Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:06 | Link to Comment putbuyer
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This is absolutely awesome work Muhammad. And thanks Tony.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:11 | Link to Comment waterdog
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caught, evidently by one of the best.

148Bn missing, the wolves will be on that one in a hurry.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/16/2009 - 16:45 | Link to Comment spekulatn
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+2 trillion

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 18:01 | Link to Comment Reductio ad Absurdum
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However, these contributions are insignificant for the 236th richest person in America. Even Rupert Murdoch has made donations to the Democrats (going so far as to hold a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton); so maybe the key phrase is "to the party in power."

Rajaratnam comes from a violently extreme minority group in Sri Lanka called the Tamils, and he appears to have funneled money to their cause over the years through "charities." His apparent financial corruption may come from a sense of loyalty to his Tamil brethren -- trying to raise money for "the cause."

On the other hand, this may be a CIA operation to help stabilize Sri Lanka by taking out a major Tamil benefactor.

Layers within layers my friend.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 19:11 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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Well it certainly seems unlikey that the authorities discovered this scheme on their own. Someone probably dropped a dime.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:19 | Link to Comment Commander Cody
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How about a different format for us slobs who can't view this one when we are at work?

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:46 | Link to Comment Daedal
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+1. Scrib blocked for me too.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 16:14 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/16/2009 - 17:25 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Thanks Anon

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 18:50 | Link to Comment morphizm
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Brilliant.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 20:42 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/16/2009 - 16:15 | Link to Comment curbyourrisk
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+2.....   PDF format please.....

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 17:11 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:33 | Link to Comment ArkansasAngie
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gee ... I like what he says but his web site ... dang ... that's bit ... something.

Too bad ...

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 10/16/2009 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Miles Kendig
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Facts are facts regardless of who presents them.  What are your established standards for propriety to be able to present facts and if you ever did anything to jeopardize those standards could you be manipulated by it?

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 17:59 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 10/17/2009 - 11:26 | Link to Comment McGriffen
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It is the dearly departed Layne Staley, lead vocalist for AIC (one of the best voices from that glorious era).

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:45 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:49 | Link to Comment TraderMark
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Bernanke successfully reinflating oil

http://www.fundmymutualfund.com/2009/10/crude-oil-follows-gold-in-techni...

if only housing prices were so easy

 

Gold - check

Equities - check

Oil - check

Food - to do

Housing - to do

 

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 15:52 | Link to Comment carbonmutant
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A drop of $100 Billion in deposits is being ignored..??

That's pretty tight media management.

 

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 16:06 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 10/16/2009 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Green Sharts
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I'm not necessarily a JPM fan, but this is yellow jounalism masquerading as financial analysis.

Absolutely.  It is complete crap.  You can't pull a handful of balance sheet items without looking at the entire balance sheet.  It is not unusual to see big fluctuations in cash balances; the difference could be in investment securities, excess cash could have been used to pay down debt, etc.  That's why companies issue statements of cash flow along with income statements and balance sheets.

With regard to deposits, it is not surprising to see JPM's deposits down year over year.  JPM is not primarily a retail bank.  It acquired Washington Mutual prior to the 9/30/08 balance sheet and WaMu came with a lot of deposits, including CDs at higher than market rates.  WaMu had liquidity problems and was paying above market rates to attract deposits.  JPM is probably not offering above market rates and I'm sure a lot of CD money is flowing out of JPM as CDs mature.

Does ZH vet these kind of pieces at all?  It will ultimately kill the credibility of the website if they are willing to post anything that is bearish regardless of whether it's valid or not.  And I say that as somebody who is extremely bearish.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 17:54 | Link to Comment Sancho Ponzi
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'a closer look at the details shows the drop was entirely in the Treasury & Securities Services SBU where "deposits" naturally fall as AUM falls'

If you look at the balance sheet for the JPM/Chase Retail Financial Services division, for the last three quarters, EOP deposits are down 10 billion per quarter - no small bleed. 

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 16:25 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/16/2009 - 17:24 | Link to Comment Green Sharts
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Anon, I didn't see your post previously as I replied to the one above it.  I agree completely and made basically the same points you did.  ZH will fade into irrelevance if it keeps putting up content like this.

Part of ZH's creed is to be suspicious of what you read and hear, yet we have people here who clearly don't know how to read financial statements or know much about banks who immediately assumed this was a great piece of analysis.

I am concerned that ZH is rapidly becoming an echo chamber largely devoted to rants instead of legitimately critical analysis.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 18:55 | Link to Comment putbuyer
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I think ZH is getting better every day. Semantics? but I always thought that cash was tier  1 capital - capital, banks can have an influence on. What other form of capital is above cash? Please educate me.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 19:11 | Link to Comment Green Sharts
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No cash isn't Tier 1 capital.  If you Google "Tier 1 capital", the first search result is to Wikipedia which has a basic definition of it.

If on the last day of the quarter a company uses cash to pay a supplier or to buy a one year treasury bill, did it reduce its net worth?  No.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 19:31 | Link to Comment putbuyer
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Green. I think yes. They in fact paid over the base value of that inventory. If you buy a diamond ring and then sell it 1 minute later - you lose 50%. Treasuries are Interest rate notes - same kind of pain, no? (Over time based on market)

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 19:37 | Link to Comment Green Sharts
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We're talking Accounting 101 stuff here.  With all due respect, you don't even understand the basics.  The "analysis" by the contributor is garbage.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 19:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 10/16/2009 - 18:57 | Link to Comment putbuyer
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Yes I agree it's visually loud, but you would not judge a book by it's cover - right?

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 19:38 | Link to Comment Careless Whisper
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Muhammed Refeeq, Zero's new Guest Post Financial Analyst and expert on all things Zion is affiliated with an interesting web site.

I didn't know that "the radical homosexual movement in the United States is a Jewish movement". Oyy vey. Who would have thought?

Slavery? Blame it on Colombus and the 5 Jews on board. Didn't know that.

The international criminal network known as The Synagogue of Satan has existed since 740. That's over 1,000 years. Damn they can keep a secret.

But my all time favorite article from Muhammed Refeeq, Zero's new financial analyst and JPMorgan expert: "Jewish Financing Of The Nazi Party".

http://www.iamthewitness.com/

 

 

 

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 19:48 | Link to Comment Green Sharts
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I wouldn't think about clicking on the website of this vile scumbag.  I don't need any computer viruses.

This is an embarrassment to ZH.  All anybody who wants to discredit anything they say has to do is point to this.

Hopefully one of the ZH crew looks at this thread and has enough sense to pull it, issue an apology and start screening "contributor" posts more carefully.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 21:34 | Link to Comment long-shorty
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thanks for helping to keep the site useful.

this piece doesn't hold water on its face, but now that I know it was written by a fundamentalist who would love to see half of my friends and investors die, it's wrong on a whole different level.

makes me wonder what TD's hopes and dreams are for society. who is to blame for our ills in TD's world?

this shit doesn't belong on any respectable website.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 22:32 | Link to Comment Green Sharts
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makes me wonder what TD's hopes and dreams are for society. who is to blame for our ills in TD's world?

See the more recent thread on the Harvard endowment where TD says he doesn't care about this crackpot's website, that he posts links to Bloomberg, the WSJ and other MSM where objective people could find things that are more objectionable, believe it or not.

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 20:01 | Link to Comment ChickenTeriyakiBoy
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well skewered careless whisper. that is some fringe stuff. was that introduction to his exhaustive 2-page research report some kind of threat? i vote no more muhammed

Fri, 10/16/2009 - 20:59 | Link to Comment Rama V
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In order to attain a fair treatment of the Palestenians, people such as Muhammed Refeeq must not be given credibility.

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 20:34 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Mon, 04/11/2011 - 05:08 | Link to Comment paragshah12
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The bank hopes to have a better grasp of losses and the strength of an economic recovery by the middle of the year.
JP morgan financial results
http://www.financeandmarkets.net/one-year-since-the-crisis-high-credit-c...

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