Guest Post: The Lesson From Japan For PM Investors

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Rodent Freikorps's picture

I'm gonna go long canned whale steaks. I imagine our Dept. of Defense will buy a lot in 3...2...

the mad hatter's picture

I went long politcal corruption and netted a 10-bagger.


inflate inflate away!

gametracker's picture

dude that's awesome! I went long political corruption, media deception, and banker fraud and netted a 30 bagger! I haven't sold yet though because I believe that there's MUCH more upside to come!

SparkyvonBellagio's picture

Who POSSIBLY could have been the Mars Energy Company at that point?
Any Guesses?

Was There a Natural Nuclear Blast on Mars?
By John Brandon
Published April 01, 2011

NASA's 1997 Pathfinder mission to Mars returned this stunning image of the planet's rocky red landscape.
Ever wonder why the red planet is red?
About 180 million years ago, a planet-shattering yet naturally occurring nuclear reaction may have wiped out everything on Mars, sending a shockwave that turned the planet into dry sand.
Even more incredible: A natural nuclear reaction could have occurred on our own planet -- and could happen again, said Dr. John Brandenburg, a senior propulsion scientist at Orbital Technologies Corp.
"The Martian surface is covered with a thin layer of radioactive substances including uranium, thorium and radioactive potassium -- and this pattern radiates from a hot spot [on Mars],” Brandenburg told
“A nuclear explosion could have sent debris all around the planet," he said. "Maps of gamma rays on Mars show a big red spot that seems like a radiating debris pattern ... on the opposite side of the planet there is another red spot."

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A NASA spacecraft has been beaming to Earth incredibly detailed pictures of the surface of Mars. And the beautiful colors and rich textures of the red planet will shock you.
According to Brandenburg, the natural explosion, the equivalent of 1 million one-megaton hydrogen bombs, occurred in the northern Mare Acidalium region of Mars where there is a heavy concentration of radioactivity.
This explosion filled the Martian atmosphere with radio-isotopes as well, which are seen in recent gamma ray spectrometry data taken by NASA, he said.
The radioactivity also explains why the planet looks red.
Brandenburg said gamma ray spectrometry taken over the past few years shows spiking radiation from Xenon 129 -- an increase also seen on Earth after a nuclear reaction or a nuclear meltdown, including the one at Chernobyl in 1986 and the disaster in Japan earlier this month.
Dr. David Beaty, Mars program science manager at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, told that he finds the idea intriguing and fascinating. But to prove the science, the agency would need to plan a mission to explore Mare Acidalium on Mars.
And there are more pressing issues, including missions to find extraterrestrial life. “You have to assess the importance of the question relative to the cost of answering the question,” he said.
Still, Beaty expressed doubts, saying the geological conditions on this planet and Mars have existed for millennia -- what exists has existed for a long time, and there are few sudden changes. “Rocks are what they are. [A natural nuclear reaction] could happen in another billion years, but it is not something to make you want to go home to your family and move to the mountains right away,” he said.
Dr. Lars Borg, a scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Lab, called Brandenburg’s conclusions unsurprising -- and part of known geological processes, not a nuclear reaction.
"We've looked at Martian meteorites for 15 years, and looked in detail at the isotopic measurements .. and not a single person out of hundreds worrying about this have thought there could have been a nuclear explosion on Mars," he told
Brandenburg -- who once worked at Livermore himself -- defended his research, arguing that defense experts he talked to off the record said they agreed there are signs of a nuclear reaction.
Besides, there's a precedence for a natural nuclear reaction on our own planet, he noted.
The Oklo, Gabon, region of Africa has uranium-coated sediments from a nuclear reaction that occurred 2 billion years ago.
A massive nuclear explosion on Mars would have created huge craters on the surface, visible from orbiting telescopes like Hubble and from the Mars rovers. Brandenburg said such craters could have filled in with sand over the past 180 million years, leaving no visual cues to prove the theory.
Another possibility is that the reaction occurred in mid-air and did not leave a crater -- which is exactly what happened at the Tunguska event in Russia in 1909, presumably by a large comet.
Harrison Schmitt, a geological expert and the last man to step out of the Apollo spacecraft on the moon, told that there is “general validity” to Brandenburg’s theory. He said the nuclear reaction may not have been caused by an explosion, however, and might have occurred over time.
Edward D. McCullough, a science and space consultant, agreed that the Mare Acidalium region of Mars does show some strange colors and terrain formations that seem unexplainable.
“There seems to be a reasonable closure between the number of fissions required to produce the Xenon 129 enhancement and the amount of energy required to toss material to that point on Mars,” he said.
“This massive nuclear explosion on Mars seems to defy natural explanation,” said Brandenburg.

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Rodent Freikorps's picture

Where's the Earth shattering KaBoom?

Without an Earth Shattering KaBoom, I call bullshit.

InconvenientCounterParty's picture

So how will a gov't, leveraged to oblivion, pay for disaster recovery?


Debtless's picture

go go goldzilla.

Zero Govt's picture

Jeff Clark  -  i can follow why the Japanese people might seek Gold and Silver as a store of value... but why would the devastation and indeed high nuclear radiation be good for industry and increase industrial consumption? 

spartan117's picture

The end result is that available supply has been glutted.

I think you meant gutted? 

apberusdisvet's picture

The slack in production, if it remains severe, will be taken up by other Asian countries, in a NY frickin minute.  The vultures and industry stealers are already out in force, you can bet on it.

Idiot Savant's picture

This is about as informative as the Lear Capital advertisements.

Creed's picture

yeah Idiot, more rah rah rah sis boom bah bullshit


there's a few kernels in there tho

janchup's picture

We already have a National Disaster. It lives in D.C.

Arch Duke Ferdinand's picture

""We already have a National Disaster. It lives in D.C.""

April Fools....Wrong Side Up...2 minute short...

topcallingtroll's picture

while I think most gold and silver bugs are paranoid, faggot cocksuckers, I don't see any reason why someone shouldn't have 10 to 40 percent real physical assets in a portfolio. 


An efficient and logical portfolio for long term dollar cost averaging over 40 years could definitely include 10 to 15 percent precious metals and should include no less than 3 percent. 

Now if all investors figured out how to construct portfolios that sat right on the edge of the efficient frontier, rather than just buy what their advisor tells them to buy.......

Danielius's picture

Why the need to be abusive?  They are undoubtably in better financial shape than you, is this why? When you begin you comment with such a well reasoned and insightful opinion, well, I guess readers will have no problem where to put the rest of your well reasoned and insightful advice.  Personally I find people who are so abusive generally not very smart. Perhaps you are a genius. You hide it well. It is also worth noting, that people who call others names usually do it because it applies directly to themselves.

Pladizow's picture

Its called "Projection" - Projecting ones self image upon others.

Bam_Man's picture

I wouldn't mind having the image in your avatar projected upon me.

Yen Cross's picture

Little pissed off about that turd in NY, and the dxy plunge are we?

penisouraus erecti's picture

it takes one to know one, so you are no doubt an expert on "paranoid, faggot cocksuckers".

No PM crash today....poor baby.........


MarketTruth's picture

And on another note about silver:

Guess how many TONNES of silver have been destroyed due to their use in bombing Lybia. Just guess (it is big)...

GubbermintWorker's picture

How many troy ounces in a troy ton??

Yen Cross's picture

31 grams in one troy ounce. 32150 in one Metric tonne. 20 pennyweight(toz) if you want to go that direction.

yabyum's picture

I still go to costco to buy beer by the cubit. 

Vlad Tepid's picture

My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead, and that's the way I likes it!

akak's picture

My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead

Isn't that still illegal in several southern states?

GubbermintWorker's picture

Oh, I don't know.....three tons?

Yen Cross's picture

Color me niave. Aren't bullets copper jacketed?

GubbermintWorker's picture

Yeah, but tomahawk missles aren't. We fired off 191 of them and each one has approximately a monster box(500 oz) of silver inside.

Bobbyrib's picture

That's not good, sounds like they have a reason to confiscate silver...

Oh regional Indian's picture

For all sad (war) and not so sad (esoteric, consumption, reality) reasons, Silver is going to dis-appear at a logrithmic rate from the world. Not for nothing and not co-incidentally either do we have the mine shut down in Sud America, exacerbating an already volatile situation.

In addition, I'm sure someone has the NUMBers, but what is the energy requirement per ounce for Gold and silver extraction? Regardless of where that energy si coming from (ultimately from Oil and it's derivatives), that part of the equation is only headed in one direction, higher. In a product deflationary scenario (money inflationary, but that is not the point here), and an already over-built world (China's vacant cities as an example), real demand for copper, zinc et. al. will fall, as will tailings and so will PM extraction thereof.

All in all, again, for all the sad and not-so-sad but real reasons, the PM rise, but in particular Silver, the strategic metal, has only just begun countdown, not even ignition.


Just Observing's picture

Yeah, I keep seeing that 500oz figure tossed around, but never seen any reason WHY there is that much silver in a Tomahawk.  ANYONE got a definite source for that figure ?


I mean you basically have a rocket motor, a fair amount of explosives, and then a small guidance system with video transmission ability.  Assuming ALL the wiring is solid silver and all the contact on the circuit boards are silver, and uses some silver in the batteries, I just don't see more than a few dozen ounces, tops.


I think that 500 oz figure was simply grabbed from the air unless someone can point to a source that says different.

Bam_Man's picture

Now we will have to send in a Ranger battalion (or two) to retrieve our silver.

All your silver is belong to us! Bitchezzz!

anvILL's picture

>It’s commonly known in Japanese culture that citizens harbor gold to protect against unforeseen events.
Really? I'm not so sure about this.
Lets see how this chart will change next quarter to find out how commonly known it is in Japan. 

I am guessing that Premiums in Japan shot up due to increased demand in China by the Chinese trying to protect themselves against unforeseen events.

Vlad Tepid's picture

I question that comment too, Anvill.  I've been sourcing gold in "less than a kilo" batches for about 4 years now in Japan and my very reputable supplier always has trouble coming up with smaller amounts - 100 grams, 1 oz, etc.  He always coyly asks me if I'm in the market for kilo bars and say only if he drops the price by $25,000.  That gets a laugh (but so does everything else in Osaka).  He says there is a glut of kilo bars as these were purchased by long dead husbands during the Bubble and now the elderly wives are selling them off for housing, medical, food, grandkids etc.  But I know of very few Japanese who "habor gold" aside from a few Mint coins they picked up at a festival 20 years ago on a lark or a silver commemorative from a trip to Hawaii or the Tower of London or something.  My true impression is that there is nothing even approaching the cultural demand existing in China or India, or the goldbug/sound money crowd in the US.

anvILL's picture

Thanks for your comment. I live in Nagoya and often travel to Tokyo but I have never seen a ZHer kind of gold bug anywhere in Japan. Relative to GDP, Japanese holding of gold is quite low. Low enough to get some other foreign PM traders worried, which includes Dan Norcini and our pope of gold, Ferdinand Lips. The lack of availabiliy of silver as an investment is quite frighteningas a Japanese as well.

The premiums/spreads are huge compaired to the U.S., making it much more difficult to invest in it.

Vlad Tepid's picture

I've never even asked about silver. Haven't seen it anywhere in investable physical form.  As I'm typing I remember a few years back when the banks were pushing a huge "campaign" of ETF/dollar cost averaging plan for gold accumulation. My wife and I went in to inquire in one of their larger branches in Osaka, in Umeda I think.  After asking 3 people we were finally directed to the right desk (usually the banks are a lot more squared away than that) and there was a very bored looking young lady (young lady at an obscure desk = very low on the totem pole).  She indicated surprise that we were inquiring and said they had had 5 people asking.  Since when? I pressed.  Ever,she replied.  And then wondered if we were really interest in doing this.  We collected our funds and promptly bought physical.  I sort of question where this author got that assertion. I think from his own imagination about heathen Cathay.

To be honest, Anvill, the premiums are so high that it is actually feasible to conduct a low-level "carry trade" in PMs, getting the profit on the premium, not the currency exchange, which has been too unstable for my taste for a while.  But don't tell anyone my idea.  :)

I Am The Unknown Comic's picture

"photography falling in Japan"?????  No way! 

(sarc ----I know.. digital)

walcott's picture

Idiots who hammer metals are fudgepacking anti-gun faggots.

look at Steve Lies man.

Yen Cross's picture

darn I have to free my left hand. My Cheeze -Its were working me. Steve Lies Man, has a tongue made of ZINK, coated with fools GOLD!

tiger7905's picture

Here is an interesting document someone received from RBC - Royal Bank of Canada attempting to purchase silver bars, "no longer manufactured"

pointer's picture

Let me translate this article in 4 letters - BTFD

Stuck on Zero's picture

I think the author has this all backwards. He states: "It’s commonly known in Japanese culture that citizens harbor gold to protect against unforeseen events." Well that event just hit!  If the Japanese are doing anything right now they are heading for pawnshops to sell their gold to buy water, food and housing.

penisouraus erecti's picture

Poor robottrader and smailes - they were so SURE the PM's were collapsing just this morning. Oh well......