Guest Post: Lives, Fortunes And Honor

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Segestan's picture

Enjoy the 4th. This is the best i've read from ZH.

DavidPierre's picture

The Declaration of Independence was followed by the Test Laws, designed to force all colonists into swearing allegiance to their local junta. A record was kept of those who took the oath and they were issued with "a certificate for safety from arrest". Failure to take the oath meant imprisonment, confiscation of property, loss of all legal rights, banishment and even death. Those who refused to participate in the slave-owners’ revolution were barred from holding office, banned from the professions and forced to pay double or triple taxes.

Eight months after supposedly giving his famous cry, “Give me liberty or give me death”, which may itself be yet another invention of the propaganda machine, freedom-loving slave-owner and land speculator Patrick Henry ordered “diligent patrols” to prevent slaves in Virginia from accepting an offer of liberty by Britain. Propagandized-to-tedium land speculator Benjamin Franklin, instrumental in drafting that immortal paean to freedom, the Declaration of Independence, owned human beings as slaves. The freedom-loving “patriots” of the colony of Rhode Island, a major slave trading center, purchased African slaves who were forced to fight and die in the Revolutionary armies in the place of those lily white lovers of liberty who had purchased them as property.

In contrast, Britain, the evil colonial power, not only ultimately abolished slavery in its own possessions but fought slavery worldwide, maintaining costly naval blockades of the African coast year-round and pursuing slave ships on the high seas, freeing captured Africans. In the new “free” United States, slavery continued to exist for a century after the Revolution. Those slaves who could escaped to freedom in British territory in Canada via the Underground Railroad.

Even after the Civil War, legally mandated apartheid, carrying the seal of approval of that great defender of human rights, the United States Supreme Court, existed until the 1960s, complete with lynchings, cross burnings, mass murder and wholesale electoral fraud. De facto apartheid, systemic discrimination, entrenched racism and race-based electoral fraud exist to the present moment, two hundred and thirty years after the Revolution, most of us have been brainwashed into believing, brought freedom, liberty and democracy to America.

Ordinary colonists were forced to join the Revolution by a campaign of systematic terror carried out largely by the so-called Sons of Liberty. Those who did not wish to fight for the profits and power of the slave-owners and land speculators were harassed, jailed, tortured and murdered; their land stolen, their houses, farms, businesses and ships burned or otherwise destroyed by “patriots”. Males who could not escape were forced into the Revolutionary armies, except for the wealthy who could, as always, buy their way out of the draft or buy slaves to take their place, the Texas Air National Guard having not yet been created. Hundreds of thousands of people of all ethnic and racial groups, more than half the population in some areas, fled the flag-waving terrorists to Canada, the Bahamas, Bermuda and other sanctuaries.

Lies and propaganda, fabricated stories of outrages and massacres, much of it invented and spread by slave-owner Sam Adams, the largely mythical “Boston Massacre” being the most notorious and ludicrous example, were used to manipulate public opinion and build support for the war.

The "republican" “patriots” allied themselves with King Louis XIV of France, whose armies and navy were largely responsible for the military success of the Revolution as part of a world-wide war against Britain. France also provided cash and arms to the "patriots" to carry on their war against Britain.

In spite of the ringing words of the Declaration, “Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed” and the oft-quoted propaganda slogan “no taxation without representation”, the instigators of the Revolution, the slave-owning and land-speculating ruling class, had no intention of allowing the people of the United States, white, black, "red" or otherwise, to give or withhold their consent to anything. "Representation" was for no one but the members of their own, very wealthy, very exclusive and very tiny clique of hypocrites, the American ruling class.

Internet Tough Guy's picture

Revisionist history is dull, as are you. There are no nations pure as snow.

eureka's picture

Of course; all men are sinners/fail in some regard - however, some more than others, and the fact remains, to the irritation of men who still harbor irrational, nationalist and hegemonial pride, that the US revolution was a revolution of the local elite:

- TO WIT:  The US SLOGAN "FREEDOM & JUSTICE FOR ALL" sorely lacks enlightenment - because JUSTICE CAN BE AND CONTINUOUSLY IS BOUGHT - and because it is devoid of both the Christian AND rational values and inteligence embodied in:


The US was founded as - and is run as - an idolized/worshipped cult of individualism - a false individualism of predominant self-interest, vehemently or violently furthered by manipulation and leverage - which, unholy/false & unhuman (-devoid of humility & social perspective) culture of material pursuit, power & dominance is dying by no other hand than its own - for naturally such narcisistic self-seeking is infertile and leads to death only.

Happy Fourth Of July - and Happy Contemplation - of whether it is time - or too late - to expand the US founding slogan - and common focus - to a more Christian/enlightened, brotherly perspective - for the resurrection of the republic in a more perfect and godlike perspective, where all men have equal value to the whole of society - and to the God said society claims to worship.

wanklord's picture

The article in question is a genuine piece of crap (bullshit at its best). Besides that, Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue. These mules clearly fit in one of Leo Strauss'(*) categories of society: the Vulgar Many

"The vulgar many, are lovers of wealth and pleasure. They are selfish, slothful, and indolent. They can be inspired to rise above their brutish existence only by fear of impending death or catastrophe."

The sooner the US economy collapses, the better, so these brutes will finally learn NOT to live beyond their means.

* German Philosopher (1899-1973)

eureka's picture

Hey Wanklord - i don't know if you're a robot, or just robot-like... since you have posted the same exact comment and quotes repeatedly for several weeks.

Perhaps you could add more perspective, details and specific points of observation and suggestions for improvement, rather than just mere repetitive contempt for fellow citizens?

jon dough's picture

WANKLORD appears to be this commenter Frank W at the blog linked below or he's a plagiarizer.

Either way, WANK-n-stein is properly named.

Herbert_guthrie's picture

Nothing dull about our history, when the real story is told.....

This "pure as snow nation" is stained with the blood of the natives. The desire to be a "free" nation away from the hand of England required the massacre and cultural destruction of the original inhabitants.

Hacked Economy's picture

Hey David,

Read your history.  You forgot about a little bloody spat called the American Civil War, in which many tens of thousands died during the second half to help further the cause of abolition, and bring slavery to an end.  There have been a great many people who've lost much (property, reputations, even their lives) to fight for what was right.

DavidPierre's picture

I hold that a Negro is not and never ought
to be a citizen of the United States.
I hold that this government was made
on the white basis; made by the white men,
for the benefit of white men
and their posterity forever,
and should be administered
by white men and none others.

Senator Stephen A. Douglas
Presidential nominee of the Democratic Party, 1860

1861-65: UNITED STATES. Prominent among the myths and lies which largely constitute the illusion that is "America" is the one which would have us believe that the U.S. Civil War was fought with the noble goal of abolishing slavery. In fact, the "Great Emancipator", President Abraham Lincoln resolutely resisted the calls of abolitionists.

In his first inaugural address, Lincoln said, "I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the states where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so." On August 22, 1862, Lincoln wrote “If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it.” In September, 1862, Lincoln gave the Confederate states four months to stop fighting, promising to leave the slaves in their chains if they did.

I can conceive of no greater calamity
than the assimilation
of the Negro into our social and political life
as our equal.

Abraham Lincoln

The real reasons for the slaughter of more than six hundred thousand ordinary Americans on both sides were, in fact, just the same two old reasons for each and every war from the dawn of time until today: the insatiable greed of the ruling class for ever more wealth and power.

The northern ruling class, represented by Lincoln, drooling at the prospect of the cash to be made in the kind of large-scale industrialization occurring in Britain, wanted free land, a large pool of cheap labor, a central bank which would operate strictly in their interests and a "free" market surrounded by high tariffs to protect their own industrial operations and maximize their profits.

The southern ruling class, which had largely controlled the federal government since the Revolution, simply wanted to maintain the status quo and, most importantly, wanted no tariff barriers which would increase the cost of manufactured goods imported into the South from Europe which would inevitably lead to other countries putting rataliatory tariffs on the agricultural products exported from the South.

The "emancipation" of the slaves was a tactic which had the effect of destroying the power base which the southern ruling class derived from slavery and "freeing" millions of slaves who then became available as a cheap labor for northern factories and mills. They augmented the huge number of poor whites, men and women, adults and children, who labored in atrocious conditions for long hours for pitiful pay.
Abraham Lincoln is yet another American icon, a largely fictional creation, who doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. The "Great Emancipator" opposed integration and intermarriage, did not think that freed slaves should be given full legal and voting rights, and forcefully advocated both before and during the Civil War that all blacks should be deported to Africa or the West Indies.

We cannot attain the ideal union
our Fathers dreamed,
with millions of an alien, inferior race among us,
whose assimilation is neither possible or desirable.

Abraham Lincoln

Lincoln’s armies committed countless war crimes and atrocities, burning and looting civilian property, destroying entire cities and laying waste vast areas of countryside. Lincoln imposed a fascist regime within the Union states, making a farce of the Constitution. His regime arrested thousands of critics of his war policies, including dozens of newspaper editors and publishers. Under Lincoln, the writ of habeas corpus, a fundamental characteristic of a democratic society, was revoked, and mail and press censorship was imposed.

Only after the Confederate states refused Lincoln’s offer to leave the slaves in chains if they stopped fighting did he issue the Emancipation Proclamation which purported to free slaves in states not under Union control. Slaves in states controlled by Lincoln remained in slavery.

We show our sympathy with slavery
by emancipating slaves
where we cannot reach them
and holding them in bondage
where we can set them free

William Seward
Lincoln's Secretary of State

Hacked Economy's picture

Provide links and support, DavidPierre, to separate facts from spin.

Note that I said "second half" of the war, because Lincoln DID first choose to allow slavery to continue as a means of negotiating with the Confederacy to return to the Union.  When it was refused, the North then began allowing the recruit of blacks beginning in 1862, promising them freedom in return for service.  That action morphed into the full-blown Emancipation Proclamation.


psychobilly's picture

The Emancipation Proclamation didn't free a single slave.  It only applied to non-Federally occupied land.  In other words, slavery was just fine if you were loyal to the federal government.  It took an amendment to the Constitution to free the slaves in the Northern states.  The Emancipation Proclamation was a ploy that Lincoln resorted to after the war was going badly for him, in order to try and whip up a slave rebellion in the Southern states.

Lincoln was a white supremacist who was a big proponent of colonization (i.e., shipping blacks back to Africa and other parts).  In Lincoln's own words, the civil war had nothing to do with freeing slaves: "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to save or destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union."

Here is a useful antidote to the "social studies" inflicted on you as a youth:

King Lincoln Archive


Dishonest Abe was easily our worst president.  He was basically a self-appointed military dictator who destroyed the Republic, and enslaved an entire people under a centralized tyranny.





AllTheMarbles's picture

Does anyone really wonder why this nation finds itself in the messes we are are today? With the dork troll partrol out in full force to further bash and divide a truely uniquely American revolution and form of government to futher trash the once revered - United States Independence Day holiday ---- Amazingly 24hrs after asking for a show of hands of ZH'ers who are willing to take the same Declaration of Independence pledge proclaimed by our Founders -- out of 300 or so comments ....only two affirmative responses.

It would seems the vast majority are here just to post their self-centered petty agendas in a semi-public setting, arguing and pontificating about the same old (elite inspired) issues over and over, enjoying the illusion of freedom in your anonymously written confrontations…… everyone is “playing” out your “unique” individual role so well ….. all according to the puppet masters planned curriculum……. which as most of you know is to ultimately keep US divided while the PTB focus their attention and actions on the destruction of America…….wake up ….it is the end of the world ….as you know it. ….is your neighborhood.

Time to…..put aside your differences ….. look for the common ground and thread to keep the Founder’s "American idea" alive …. If not freedom will perish ….. the American experiment will be over……and the European model will once again rule the world…….. 

Again I ask …..who among you will take Declaration of Independence pledge ……..”And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.”

If you are unwilling to stand up now – it is okay, maybe later, but step aside, get out of the way, go back to your comfort zone (which for most of you is probably in your Mom’s basement), quit taking up valuable space, and let those of us who are willing to pledge our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor – a few “whine” free forums to begin. The time is now – not tomorrow.

NOTE: Losers you may now junk know who you play your troll role.....

Dburn's picture

Probable Source:


Whenever in doubt of source, copy and paste a portion into Google and you'll come up with the likely sources. Below appears to be where some if not all of the material was written. Now he could have copied and pasted it from someone else who copied and pasted it elsewhere as that's the viral nature of the Internet. Many times they are on the email broadcast news channel known as FWD: Please Read and send to everyone you know. Then of course within minutes the contents are copied and pasted on various blogs, indexed by Google so even more can accidentally run into it. If one well known or partial name brand site publishes it, it then becomes fact, as there is now a credible source to link to. It's not that hard to do. The email list that can target the demo you want and from their it just takes off.

This is probably not a credible source but it's a start as most Reporters are too fucking lazy to write more than 200 words in their False equivalency reporting which depending on the quality of the junk quoted will bring screams of liberal or Conservative Bias. That makes controversy and we all know what makes money in news , so the ultimate accomplishment of most of this is:

Make shit up, go viral, start a fight, get MSM to cover it, then quote from it as fact. 


Cheney really rocket boosted this,  by feeding Judith Miller of the NYT's some Bullshit on Iraq which she wrote into a story for the Sunday NYT,  which was ( totally coincidental - as most partisans will tell you) the very Sunday from which Cheney himself quoted the NYT Story he had fed to the NYT as the source on Meet the Press. That's a power template to use, but that's how it's done at the top. Two Credible Sources with total bullshit.

The only real fact we can be sure of is;  the commenter has a great command over Ctrl C and Ctrl V.

Fact checking something like the above involves a rather tedious set of searches , phone calls and emails to find credible sources. 2 Credible sources are usually the minimum standard as three credible sources in usually the maximum. One credible source is accepted but leaves doubt. A Non Credible source that is plagiarized can only be discarded as standard contra bullshit. Little pieces of truth mixed with a narrative to make it sound real. My bet is that is where the original source material was created. 

Also each statement stated as fact has to be individually fact checked which makes it virtually impossible and not worthwhile for the average person to do. It does make an opportunity for Google if they would take it up. The Google Fact Checker. In which a fact is placed in the Google search engine and the engine returns only results that have been cross checked and dual sourced. Finding copy and paste shit is easy. It's the "facts" stated within the text that are a total headache. People might pay money with  this if Google would write a algo that was tested by a variety of well trusted conveyers of facts and allow users to modify the parameters.



WaterWings's picture

I once, many moons ago, told him the equivalent of "Yeah, whatever."

I wince now, when I see his posts.

Seriously. I wince.

Epic material.

I tell you with full and total seriousness he is an insightful (of course) benefactor.

I am in your debt, Dburn.

Dburn, if you read this, may I ask what your programming language of choice is?

Clay Hill's picture


Thanks for reminding us all to seek more than one credible source before trying to convince others of the "facts".

I offer this for your perusal.



cosmictrainwreck's picture

Meh.... You've gone to great pains to explain exactly what? That so much bullshit, propaganda, deceit, injustice, etc. has been perpetrated on the common man, even by our "most honorable" and in our "finest hours"? Welcome to reality. Personally, I look at "America" (the concept) as the last best hope for a system of goverance - holding no illusions of delusions of its chance of success (I make it 1 in 100, generously). That's 'cause humans are involved.

Yeah it sucks, but not sure we puny 2-leggers are qualified to judge whether on balance it's been to the good.......

eureka's picture

RE: "not sure we puny 2-leggers are qualified to judge whether on balance it's been to the good......."

Well then, why are you reading, talking and posting at all?

Of course we can judge; more importantly, before we do judge, we can have intelligent conversations about the strength, fairness and validity of the principles upon which we build and judge our structures and our lives - and in that sense, the core question on topic today is, whether or not our founding principles can and need to expand and evolve in order to dynamically contribute to an "ever more perfect union"...

cosmictrainwreck's picture

Of course I use "judgement"... all de time. My point was simply towards those that think themselves smart enough to pronounce an accurate appraisal of a flawed sytem.... As to why I post "at all" - take it up with TD; he's the one that let me in.....

toady's picture

Now THATS good stuff! Somebody was educated outside what passes for school these days...

It doesn't sit very well this close to the holiday though...

Dental Floss Tycoon's picture

Wear the junks as badge of honor, DavidPierre.

Reference to Lincoln spoiled an otherwise good article.

Lincoln laid the foundation for the overreaching federal monster we have today.

psychobilly's picture

You forgot about a little bloody spat called the American Civil War, in which many tens of thousands died during the second half to help further the cause of abolition, and bring slavery to an end.

lol.  Another victim of public schooling.

Ancona's picture

I wish to formally thank the founders.

God bless them, every one.

The cowards in congress need an object lesson from the "People:.

In liberty, Ancona.

hedgeless_horseman's picture

On a long enough timeline
the survival rate for
everyone drops to zero.

Make it count.

Happy Birthday, America!

AldousHuxley's picture

"God, I pray to secure my victory as a knight on a white horse to protect my property/slaves and my right to plunder natives' property. Amen!"

snowball777's picture

Because the people on the opposite side of the Delaware were really into native American's rights? GTFO.

Yen Cross's picture

 " Snowball Respectfully" I have a piece for WB-7, that we are still working on. My buddy owns some pretty good art. Picaso good!      Thanks yen.

Terminus C's picture

Actually, one of the main contentions held by the colonists was the fact that the British restricted westward expansion due to treaties with the Indians.

hedgeless_horseman's picture

I Corinthians 10:24: Let no one then seek his own good and advantage and profit, but (rather) each one of the other (let him seek the welfare of his neighbor).

Hacked Economy's picture

Don't worry about these guys, Hedgeless, since they mock what they don't understand.  Kudos to you for posting the painting.

Rodent Freikorps's picture

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose. An evil soul producing holy witness Is like a villain with a smiling cheek.
[1596 Shakespeare Merchant of Venice i. iii. 93]

JW n FL's picture

Easy on Hedge-less.. Easy. He is righteous and an old timer who has more than paid his dues.. he doesn't fight us, only them.

AldousHuxley's picture

then right wing Christians are the devil for using the bible for political ambitions.

JW n FL's picture



God Bless You and Yours now as always Brother!


Now it's the 4th lets blow some shit up!! 

JR's picture

No man has ever lived who did more than George Washington to give you the freedom to blaspheme by mocking a prayer.

FeralSerf's picture

Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy. Ambrose Bierce

snowball777's picture

I have to say that I was impressed with Washington for not succumbing to the trappings as one might expect of someone who could easily have commanded much more power and wealth after the war.

AldousHuxley's picture

so....there is no freedom of speech anywhere outside of America? you need to get out more. What's up with military general worship? You don't have accomplishment of your own? Your pride lies in Washington's conquests?


JR's picture

As a general rule there is no freedom of speech outside America, as most countries make it illegal to criticize their government and/or their populations are so racist that it is very unhealthy to insult their race in public, i.e., Israel, Mexico, Africa, the Muslim countries, Japan…

Only white Christian America not only tolerates free speech but backs this tolerance with law.  Unfortunately, racist groups within America have begun to erode this freedom, as they have already in Canada and Germany where it is illegal to criticize or question certain races, and persons with strong opinions such as yourself should join with me in trying to keep freedom of expression in America a protected right.

Terminus C's picture

you just make shit up as you go?

there is as much freedom of speech in Canada, Britain, Germany, Australia etc as there is in the US.

In some cases there is much more as you don't it would be an uncommon occurrence in Canada, for example, to have your life threatened in a small town for speaking against the country, government or leader.

Yen Cross's picture

  I'll give you that postulation!   Happy 4th JR.  NEXUS

nmewn's picture


You are a supreme asshole, the worst so far and you can quote me verbatim on that.

AldousHuxley's picture

don't get your panties in a bunch over some painting.



nmewn's picture

Attribution Huckster.

When someone puts quote marks on a sentence or paragraph the reader has the expectation that they will find the name of the one who wrote or said the words within the quote marks.

As I only found one name attached to them, I attribute the words to you and you alone.

Terminus C's picture

Many people (and I find this to be true of Americans especially so) have a great deal of trouble when you burst their foundational myths.  From the unquestioning defense of the 'founding fathers' in this comment board my assertions are being vindicated.

The truth is scary and fear makes people violent.  Such is the reasoning for the vehemence of their assaults upon you.