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Submitted by Claude Salhani of OilPrice.com

As the Middle East Peace Talks Hit Deadlock, Talk of Israel Joining the European Union Increases

The Middle East peace talks are at a deadlock. Negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians to move ahead with the plan established by the so-called Quartet – the US., U.N., EU and Russia -- have faltered and come to a complete standstill. Continuing with this inertia will have a long-term negative effect on the future of the region both from a political point of view as well as from a business perspective. With the exception of a few risk-takers, what company or business executive would be willing to invest in the Middle East once the region plunges onto the abyss amid renewed violence?

And whenever trouble brews in the Middle East it tends to spill over into other parts of the world.  The risk that Mideast violence could spread to nearby Europe might have been one of the reasons that pushed Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to say that Israel should be admitted into the European Union earlier this week. Berlusconi made the statement during an official state visit to Israel. Berlusconi, of course, is one of Israel’s strongest supporters.

Regardless of that the question remains does Israel belong in Europe?

Does Israel joining the European Union make any sense? And is this proposal likely to carry any weight? The idea has been floating around for a number of years. And if Turkey feels it belongs in the EU, then why not Israel, where a large portion of the population has direct ties to Europe.

The knee-jerk reaction from much of the Arab world will most likely be to throw a temper-tantrum. There will likely be anti-Italian demonstrations, threats to boycott Italian goods (which will be short-lived given the Middle East’s attraction to pasta) and in the extreme case, some maniacs will attempt to carry out terrorist acts against Italy. But anyone with an ounce of logic should jump on the Italian bandwagon. Support the initiative.

To what end? Why?

Think about it for a minute or two. What would it mean to have Israel join the EU? To begin with, the European Union has very strict rules regulating multiple aspects of how a member country should function. First of all, no prospective partner of the Brussels club can be allowed to join the European Union while it occupies territory that is not legally recognized as part of its own.  Israel’s adhesion into the European Union would have to be preceded by a complete withdrawal of Israeli military and civilian forces from all Palestinian territory. That would mean that before such a withdrawal can happen a peace deal will have to be reached beetween the Palestinians and the Jewish State.

Israel’s admission into the European Union would mean that the highways and security roads that Palestinians are not allowed to travel on would have to disappear. It would be inadmissible to have segregated roads in the European Union. Imagine if Italy, France or Germany, for example, banned  certain ethnic groups from traveling on its national highways.

The Separation Barrier (official United Nations designation) which Israel calls a “fence,” and Palestinians refer to as an “Apartheid Wall;” in reality a series of segments of a wall resembling the Berlin Wall, ditches and moats, erected between Israel proper and the West Bank to keep potential terrorists out, would have to come down. It would be unimaginable for a member of the EU to maintain such a symbol of segregation.  Similarly the situation regarding Gaza would have to be resolved. Again, it is unimaginable for a European country to lay siege to a neighboring territory.

But that is not all. The whole concept of the European Union, the world’s largest economic and political zone, which saw the day shortly after the end of World War II, was to tie the economies of Europe’s countries in such a way that war would simply become unimaginable. Nations that spent centuries fighting each other – England and France, France and Germany, Germany and its neighbors to the east, and so on and so forth – began building the foundation to make those wars a thing of the past and inconceivable in the future. And it worked. Today war between once former foes in Europe is just not possible. To be sure, there may well be disagreements between members of the EU, but the disputes are settled in the European Parliament or at the International Court of Justice in The Hague. Not on the battlefield any longer. This is an example from which the Middle East could greatly benefit.

Israel in the EU would also mean that peace with Syria would have to be attained and the occupied Golan Heights returned to its rightful owners.  Going a step further, Israel would have to finalize its withdrawal from the Shebaa Farms and the village of Ghajjar in south Lebanon and find a way to make peace with Lebanon and by default, with Hezbollah.

Is any of this possible? Yes, would say the optimist in me, but with a caveat. Unilateral withdrawal from Arab lands is unrealistic and dangerous for the security of Israel. And Israel’s domestic and foreign policy is driven by its security needs. So the bottom line is this: If Israel wants to become a member of the European Union, even with all the backing of the Italian prime minister, and others, it would first have to negotiate peace with its Arab neighbors. And that is a good thing.

So, Israel in the European Union? Yes, by all means, bring it on. And if Israel joins the EU, why can’t Lebanon be next? With Cyprus now a member of the EU, Europe is but a 20-minute airplane ride from the Middle East.

Originally published at: http://www.oilprice.com/article-as-the-middle-east-peace-talks-hit-deadlock-talk-of-israel-joining-the-european-union-increases.html


Written by Claude Salhani  for Oilprice.com who focus on Fossil Fuels, Alternative Energy, Metals, Crude Oil Price and Geopolitics To find out more visit their website at: http://www.oilprice.com

 


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Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:19 | Link to Comment crosey
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If Israel is accepted into the EU, World War III will consume Europe.  The Muslim population in Europe would not sit still, particularly the disenfranchised Muslim youth.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:25 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Not all of Europe. Only France. And there, yes, it will all burn.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:37 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Eh, I think it's all talk. Israel will never secede from the United States - why complicate a good thing?

And since when are peace talks in the best interest of AIPAC?

Spot on about France. C'est la vie.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:54 | Link to Comment Gold...Bitches
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exactly.  just give the jews Kansas or Utah or something.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 19:14 | Link to Comment VegasBD
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utah. then they can build walls all over the place in that state because, hell, its utah. who cares.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 19:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 02:50 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Jews make good pancakes! But if you want to really piss off the Mormons it's Missouri.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 20:22 | Link to Comment Gold...Bitches
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because, hell, its utah. who cares.

And therein lies my point exactly.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 21:08 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Y'all obviuosly never visited Utah. A beautiful state, with the cheap world class skiing...15 minutes from a sea of humanity.

The "Chosen Ones" already have NY and FL, and Hollywierd....let them stay there.

 

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 01:30 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 02:51 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Don't tell secrets.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 01:04 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Missing_Link
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I welcome it.  Europe needs to kick out its its Jihadist fifth column while it still has time.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 19:17 | Link to Comment Kissy Ass
Wed, 02/03/2010 - 21:39 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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"....all enemies, foreign and domestic."

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 23:14 | Link to Comment Missing_Link
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Kindly keep your dishonest anti-Israeli propaganda out of this.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 02:55 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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You need to be more specific than "anti-Israeli" if you want us to acknowledge your point.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 06:50 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 02/03/2010 - 23:47 | Link to Comment JR
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Given these excerpts, and the Missions Statement, from the site, I don’t know on what grounds you were junked:

…If Americans Knew was originally founded by an American freelance journalist, Alison Weir*, who traveled independently throughout the West Bank and Gaza Strip in February and March of 2001. Ms. Weir found a situation largely the reverse of what was being reported by the American media. Upon further examination of this issue – she read dozens of books on the topic – she found that the U.S. press portrayal was significantly at odds with information being reported by media throughout the rest of the world.

…In March of 2004, Ms. Weir was inducted into honorary membership of Phi Alpha Literary Society, founded in 1845 at Illinois College. The award cited her as a: “Courageous journalist-lecturer on behalf of human rights. The first woman to receive an honorary membership in Phi Alpha history.”

…“Ms. Weir presents a powerful, well documented view of the Middle East today. She is intelligent, careful, and critical. American policy makers would benefit greatly from hearing her first-hand observations and attempting to answer the questions she poses.” ---Tom Campbell, former Congressman and Dean of Haas School of Business

…New Board Members: We are honored to announce our two new board members: former eleven-term Illinois Congressman Paul Findley and career foreign service officer and Ambassador Andrew I. Killgore.

Mr. Findley is recognized as one of our nation’s foremost experts on US foreign policy regarding the Middle East. In addition, Mr. Findley has written extensively on Abraham Lincoln and other aspects of American history. Several of Mr. Findley’s books have long been noted on our list of recommended reading.

Ambassador Killgore served as a career foreign service officer and as a U.S. Ambassador. In 1982, he co-founded the award-winning Washington Report on Middle East Affairs. Ambassador Killgore also received the prestigious “Foreign Service Cup” in 1997.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 10:33 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:43 | Link to Comment Stranger
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If Israel is admitted to the EU, the entire Muslim population in Europe will be free to immigrate to Israel.

Some people just don't think things through.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:49 | Link to Comment Missing_Link
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!

Wow, you're right.  That fact carries this idea from "unlikely" into "impossible" in a hurry.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 22:38 | Link to Comment caconhma
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Well, Jews control America ruling oligarchs as well as the rest of America. For all practical purposes, Jews own the USA. 

Back in 1917, using American and British money, Jewish Bolsheviks destroyed Russia. Thanks to Stalin, Russia was saved. However, Russia became a barbaric country.

Now, it is the America turn to be ruined.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 23:15 | Link to Comment Missing_Link
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   ^^

Moderators, I request that you please immediately delete that paranoid, racist, anti-Semitic bunk that does not represent the thoughts or opinions of the vast majority of ZeroHedge commenters.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 00:47 | Link to Comment caconhma
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American people still cherish its Constitution on their Freedom of Speech. 

Unfortunately, many people cannot handle the truth. Name-calling and demagoguery don't work well any more. After all, we were promised "the change".

PS

As for the ZeroHege, I don't think it is all about "conformity" to the Jewish-controlled mass media and the White House party line. 

Finally, I don't think that Missing_Link  represents "the thoughts or opinions of the vast majority of ZeroHedge commenters". Remember, in a democracy, one man equals just one vote!

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 01:20 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 01:59 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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I think Zerohedge readers are sufficiently able to ignore stupidity on their own without official authoritative help. Thanks for your well meaning protective actions but really you are just throwing a huge diss at zero hedge readers treating them like a bunch of babies who can't spot stupid all on their own, while simultaneously spotting it all over the global economic world.

So tell us link. How do you really feel about us?

Sheparding failure in 3... 2... 1...

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 09:05 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:19 | Link to Comment Segestan
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What does the affairs of Israel and the Palestinians have to do with the future of Europeans? Why should Europeans concern themselves with these independent peoples who can't live in peace? Reads like a naive liberal agenda but will result in a greater military role for Eurpeans.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 21:51 | Link to Comment Mrmojorisin515
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agree'd, i believe Rome had the first european union from 50 bc to 450 ad, and england, france, germany, and everyone managed to kill each other for many years before the newest one, which has only survived mainly because of the pax americana, which could be ending.  Naive indeed, only liberals totally pretend that human nature does not exist!

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:24 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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ugh.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:26 | Link to Comment bugs_
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woah - Turkey is getting leaned on!

Turkey been in line way longer.

Is this a big enough bribe to Israel to let Iran achieve nukes?

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:30 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Perhaps by putting Israel second in line, it hastens the day when Turkey is in. Getting Turkey in might pacify some of the other Muslim nations who would see it as a kind of recognition and reduce the impact of Israel joining.

They're cutting it fairly close to the edge, if that is their thinking.

And France will burn regardless of what happens. But they know that.

cougar

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:26 | Link to Comment heatbarrier
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The EU will be no more by the end of 2010, at the current pace, and the rest of the world will go with it IMO. Israel will make peace until the end of times, which may be shortly thereafter.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:27 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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Not sure why the EU would want to drag all the problems of the dysfunctional Middle East into their sphere of influence. Wouldn't likely fair any better than the last time they tried it, in the 1200's.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:37 | Link to Comment ToNYC
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No worries...after they comply with United Nations Security Council Resolution 242 and paid reparations for the attack on the USS Liberty, become a signer of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation pact and opened the door to UN inspections and helped the ME to become a Nuclear -free Zone, they'd be more than welcome!

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 18:39 | Link to Comment THE DORK OF CORK
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Complete and utter tosh , where did you get this guy zero hedge

I come from a country where we voted against the Lisbon treaty but were forced to vote again with the sword of Damocles hanging over our heads - it was made quite clear to us that if we voted no we would be cast into economic oblivion.

My point is that legal niceties can be circumvented by these strange hybrid quasi states - it just takes some time.

As for the spurious notion that Europeans would have started fighting each other after the second world war only for the ECC , that is complete bullshit.

We had a bellyful of war after 1945 and the only threat out there were the Soviets and the only thing stopping them was the Bomb - its that simple.

Finally I would concede that there is a good possibility that Turkey and Israel will join the EU given the fact that the majority of Europeans want nothing to do with those nations.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 01:36 | Link to Comment Oracle of Kypseli
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The EU may have to change its name to accomodate Turkey and Israel. Let's see:

How about: IMAM EWE

Israel, Middle east, Asia, Minor --  East + West Europe

 

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 03:33 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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but were forced to vote again with the sword of Damocles hanging over our heads

Captain Moonlight!

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 19:18 | Link to Comment litoralkey
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 The one without sin cast the first stone.

The author here is a angling too ethnopolitical for the good of ZH's intended purposes, ZH shouldn't be posting this.  You will rue the day you started frontpaging threads on the Israeli-Pali situation.

Greece has a mined, barbed wired, remotely monitored border with Turkey.

Spain has a barbed wire reinforced triple layer fence to keep out Moroccans.

The EU is going to be spending an additional 1.3Billion Euro a year on top of the current budget of 300 Million for maritime immigration, smuggling and contraband enforcement in the Med Sea.

Italy is running illegal alien detention centers that are far worse than that in Israel.

France has an immediate deportation policy on several outlaying territories.  Corsica is adopting a similar policy this year.

Romania and Bulgaria still have anti-Roma laws on the books that are actively and brutally enforced.

In Austria, (and until recently Germany), a immigrant family can live in the country for several decades and not be granted permanent residency, let alone hope to acquire citizenship.

Northern Ireland was actively segregated from the moment the Treaty of Rome was signed until well through the EU process.

,,,

Silvio is not heading to Tel Aviv to promote actual political union, he is doing so to promote specific development projects in Northern Italy over the next few years.  He might indeed have some warm feeling for Israel that make doing so easier on his psyche, but that is tangental to the trade talks.  Italy is looking to close a deal with I think IDE and Veolia Acqua to build desalinisation plants and water treatment plants alongside the soon to be proposed new Nuclear plants in Italy sometime early 2011.   Everything else Silvio is doing is optics for the MSM and speicific demographics inside Italy...

 

 Massimo D'Alema and the Commies in Italy have taken common cause with Palestinians, Hamas, Hezbollah, Italian businessmen doing direct trade with Hezbollah, the grand ayatollahs and IRGC,  and D'Alema is dependent on the financial and political support of the Italian businesses doing trade with Iran.

Burlesconi's coalition is generally less connected to trade with Iran at least to the point that Burlesconi's cabinet is willing to be seen in Israel alongside Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman, Burlesconi's coalition partner Northern League is actively anti-immigrant and specifically anti-Muslim immigrant.

 

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 03:25 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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You will rue the day you started frontpaging threads on the Israeli-Pali situation.

And?

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 19:04 | Link to Comment chet
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"talk of Israel joining the EU..."

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Oh, you were serious?

...

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 19:13 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Wed, 02/03/2010 - 23:09 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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agreed

 

and most Jews do not care a damn about Israel. They are more concern with dealings in their host country

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 06:50 | Link to Comment maff
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Did you mean "host" or "home"?

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 19:54 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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In a world already littered with bad ideas, admitting Israel into the EU would certainly merit a place on the top 10 list of bad ideas.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 21:05 | Link to Comment heatbarrier
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Yep. Here's a good idea. Creative. Killer-app.  

http://worldbike.org/our-work-two

Here's another.  Even better, it can be done with a narrow bank.  Killer-app.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SKhCYoF0Lg

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 20:15 | Link to Comment hound dog vigilante
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Israel joining the EU...?   I'll believe that when I see it.

 

However, if Israel were to join the EU, could we (the USA) then 'resign' from our posts as Israel's bodyguard and nanny?  That would be nice....

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 20:28 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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Mr. Salhani cannot even get his facts straight.  The Apartheid Wall was not built "between Israel proper."  It was built exclusively on Palestinian land and encloses much Palestinian land.

Also, no mention of the Goldstone war crimes.

The problem with the Israeli Palestinian conflict is simply that the Palestinians don't have the decency to disappear so Israel can annex their lands without all this kerfuffle.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 21:07 | Link to Comment BaronG
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The fact that Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi is pushing for this is pretty interesting. Italian business do a good deal of business and trade with Iran.

 

http://www.debka.com/article/8574/

This would add to the reasons why Italy would push for Israel joining the EU.  Less risk of violence means the business interests are safer...at least for a longer period of time.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 21:30 | Link to Comment Gimp
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Great idea for two reasons:

1. Israel could default on any soverign debt they have accumulated and let the EU Central Bankers deal with it.

2. U.S would not have to spend billions on defending Israel, the Europeans would finally have to pony up for defending Israel which is about time as they have enjoyed the U.S military might protect their asses since WWII while they spent their money on crazy welfare programs which they can no longer afford.

As far as the muslims in Europe (having lived in the mid-East) I can tell you most of them know they are a lot better off in Europe(great welfare) than back home and apart from the usual suspect nut job radicals I don't see an issue with the majority.

 

 

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 21:38 | Link to Comment lsbumblebee
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Speaking of the Zionists, Eustace Mullins passed away yesterday. R.I.P.

http://snardfarker.ning.com/profiles/blogs/eustace-mullins-passes-on

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 22:06 | Link to Comment Andrei Vyshinsky
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This conception has to be about the most hairbrained possible. First there's talk of admitting Georgia to NATO, an organization formed solely to give flesh to the nonsense that Joseph Stalin and the Red Army intended to impose themselves on immediately post-war Western Europe, and now this mind numbing absurdity. Did it occur to you, young man, that Israel is a Middle Eastern, not a European nation? Would not the most elementary of thought processes impel the notion that the European Union be made up of Europeans? Is it that the reservations expressed by some concerning Turkish membership in the EU aren't to apply to Israel? And, after all, what pray tell would become of AIPAC's poorly concealed efforts to make Israel the fifty-first state? ;-)

Burlesconi would do better confining his peace making efforts to the settlement of Giuseppe Filionati's recent contretemps with the management of La Scala. Most international questions seem quite beyond his capabilities.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 03:15 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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And, after all, what pray tell would become of AIPAC's poorly concealed efforts to make Israel the fifty-first state?

Cin-cin!

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 22:42 | Link to Comment caconhma
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Regardless of how many nukes Israel has, it will take just 1-2 nukes to wipe out Israel from a face of the Earth.

I will put the chances for it at 80-90%.

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 23:39 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Wed, 02/03/2010 - 23:48 | Link to Comment Madcow
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Can't we just buy Baja California from Mexico and give it to Israel?

Seriously - just move Israel lock stock and barrel. Same climate. And protected under the bosom of the US. 

Just remove the thorn - 

The middle east would probably descend into tribal warfare and cannibalism, but at least we could stay out of it.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 00:44 | Link to Comment Clinteastwood
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If we had no fiat currencies (the ability to create money outta thin air_ we'd have a lot less war.  Without the discipline of the gold supply less war finance is possible.  Of course, less finance in general is possible without fiat currency via fractional reserve banking. 

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 02:03 | Link to Comment Hephasteus
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Ya. The I will rain down death and destruction upon you!!!

But first I'm gonna save up for it.

Kind puts an ice cube on the hard cock of brutality.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 03:17 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Hey. You are missing) one.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 01:10 | Link to Comment trillionaire
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I use Israel to gauge the solvency of the US.  When the USSR ran out of money, they had to let their "puppets" (?) go.  When the US runs out of money, they will have to let Israel go.  The Israelis are not stupid (If Saddam let the inspectors in, he would still be in power today) so when they start making friends in their neighborhood we know the US is close to going bankrupt.  Talks of Israel joining the EU might be a (first?) sign that the US is nearing bankruptcy.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 01:29 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 03:18 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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That's the zinger!

All rats leave before the ship sinks!

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 02:19 | Link to Comment dan22
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Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, who was on an official visit to Israel, said Monday that his "greatest desire" is to see Israel join the European Union. He wasn’t the first to think of that idea. Javier Solana, the European Union's foreign policy chief said last year that his organization's ties with Israel are stronger than those with candidate country Croatia: “There is no country outside the European continent that has this type of relationship that Israel has with the European Union. "Israel, allow me to say, is member of the European Union without being a member of the institution. It's a member of all the programs of the union, and participates in all of them. And I'd like to emphasize and underline, with a very big, thick line [that Israel participates] in [helping us deal] with all the problems of research and technology, which are very important." "I am sorry to say, but I don't see the president of Croatia here," Solana continued, referring to Stjepan Mesic, who is also attended the three-day conference. "His country is a candidate for the European Union, but your relation today with the European Union is stronger than [our] relation to Croatia.” http://israelfinancialexpert.blogspot.com/2010/02/is-it-possible-that-israel-will-join.html
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 03:23 | Link to Comment WaterWings
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Israel, allow me to say, is member of the European Union without being a member of the institution.

Yeah. Same reason they don't need to secede from the USA.

And I'd like to emphasize and underline, with a very big, thick line [that Israel participates] in [helping us deal] with all the problems of research and technology, which are very important.

Bingo! This ain't news to the ZH crowd, though. Or did you think you made this up yourself?

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 02:21 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 02/04/2010 - 03:58 | Link to Comment godfader
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This has a chance once the Germans are fed up paying for Greece/Spain. The Germans will ultimately leave the EUR and the EU, openign the door for Israel. There will never be any type of political union between German and Israel.

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 05:22 | Link to Comment laughing_swordfish
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Never happen.

As an earlier poster pointed out, an Israel in the EU would have to admit all European Muslims without passport and documentation formalities. The security problems would be unmanageable.

Second, everyone forgets the still-prevalent anti-Semitism in many parts of the EU, particularly France and Germany.

Everywhere outside Israel proper, the Jew is a hated outsider and the Europeans have embraced a weird "politically correct" dhimmitude ( a dhimmi, in Islamic parlance, is an unbeliever who chooses to live in an Islamic state and is allowed to do so provided he does not propagate his religion, obeys all islamic laws, and pays a special tax for the privilege).

Everywhere you go in the EU today, the "leaders" are in the process of creating "Eurostan", and the sheeple, as always, are going along with it.

 

KptLt. laughing swordfish

9er Unterseeboote Flotille

A non-dhimmi Teutonic Knight of the waves.

 

Thu, 02/04/2010 - 09:35 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Thu, 02/04/2010 - 12:29 | Link to Comment JR
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If the French and German are anti-Semitic why then did the French elect a Jewish president, Nicolas Sarkozy?  Now Sarkozy is saying “We need a Bretton Woods” and calling for a new international monetary system.

RAANAN ELIAZ in The Australian Jewish News wrote in Sarkozy’s Jewish Roots on May 8, 2007 that “France's new president, Nicolas Sarkozy, lost 57 members of his family to the Nazis and comes from a long line of Jewish and Zionist leaders and heroes.”

Raanan Eliaz is a former Director at the Israeli National Security Council and the Hudson Institute, Washington D.C. He is currently a PhD candidate at the Catholic University of Leuven, Belgium, and a consultant on European-Israeli Affairs.

Writes Raanan Eliaz:
IN an interview Nicolas Sarkozy gave in 2004, he expressed an extraordinary understanding of the plight of the Jewish people for a home: “Should I remind you the visceral attachment of every Jew to Israel, as a second mother homeland? There is nothing outrageous about it. Every Jew carries within him a fear passed down through generations, and he knows that if one day he will not feel safe in his country, there will always be a place that would welcome him. And this is Israel.

"Sarkozy’s sympathy and understanding is most probably a product of his upbringing it is well known that Sarkozy’s mother was born to the Mallah family, one of the oldest Jewish families of Salonika, Greece."

The views of French President Nicolos Sarkozy, current holder of the rotating EU presidency, has become a key factor in global economic coordination programs, and, because of his position, he also was a key player in the Georgia-Russian dispute.

As “The Australian Jewish News” wrote, “Many expect Sarkozy’s presidency to bring a dramatic change not only in France’s domestic affairs, but also in the country’s foreign policy in the Middle-East …

“To this day many Mallahs are still active Zionists around the world.”

http://www.ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=3162

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