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Guest Post: New Hampshire Man Lights Himself On Fire To Protest America's Decline
From Simon Black of Sovereign Man
New Hampshire Man Lights Himself On Fire To Protest America's Decline
Late last week, Thomas James Ball reached his breaking point. Driven
to desperation by a system that bankrupted him and destroyed his family,
Ball walked up to the main door of the Keene County, New Hampshire
courthouse, doused himself with gasoline, and lit himself ablaze.
Hardly anyone seems to have noticed.
Conversely, when a 26-year old Tunisian man lit himself on fire a few
months ago after police confiscated the fruits and vegetables he had
been selling without a proper permit, it launched a wave of revolution
across the Middle East.
People were shocked into taking action… protests and riots swept the region and one regime after another crumbled.
Rather than sparking an “American spring” and shocking US citizens
into taking their country back, though, Mr. Ball’s act of
self-immolation seems to have been largely ignored. There has been scant
coverage (and scant is being extremely generous) of Mr. Ball in the
mainstream media, and what little coverage there is generally discredits the man as a troublemaker.
This is how the system’s gatekeepers have been so adroit at
maintaining the status quo– by suppressing dissent, marginalizing the
detractors, and distracting the populace with meaningless, irrelevant
drivel.
Mr. Ball left behind a lengthy missive prior to his suicide, which
covers a range of topics from political corruption to why the family
court system in America is utterly disgraceful. He was, to put it
mildly, a staunch advocate of violent change, and it’s clear he hoped a
great deal of others would follow in his footsteps to literally burn the
system down.
(Ball even left instructions for how to make a proper Molotov
cocktail along with specific vulnerabilities of police stations in his
area…)
Perhaps the most interesting part of his final post, however, was the
observation that the United States is no longer a nation of laws; Ball
described what he calls the ‘second set of books,’ which is essentially
the collection of policies, procedures, and protocols that courts and
executive agencies rely upon.
This includes police departments and other ‘enforcers’ across the
country that come up with standardized responses to take judgment out of
the equation. TSA agents, for instance, are only following procedure
when they fondle children at airport checkpoints. Even the guys who
drove the trains to the concentration camps were just following
procedures.
Ball argued that the nation is now ruled by such procedures, even in
such institutions as family court where judges (by policy) pass the buck
down the line to mental health case workers.
His anger and desperation for this system, which tore apart his
family and bankrupted his finances, led Ball to light himself ablaze at
the local courthouse in a state whose motto is “Live Free or Die.” Ball
chose the latter.
The next day, life went on in America. There was no shocking
front-page cover story or award-winning photograph to spark a national
debate… let alone propel droves of fed-up citizens to flood the streets
demanding change.
Rather, the New Hampshire courthouse cleaned up his charred remains
and meticulously scrubbed the floors to eliminate all trace of the
event. 24-hour news networks ran a quick blurb in their scrolling
tickers amid more important coverage of the Miss USA beauty pageant and
President Obama’s Father’s Day plans.
In other words, business as usual… suggesting that if there is, in
fact, going to be a fight for the soul of the country, it’s a long way
off, and many more degrees for the boiling frogs who are stuck in the
pot.
My assessment of this situation, however controversial it may be,
remains very clear: the great faceless enemy that opposes us,
irrespective of our country of origin, is the institution of government.
Over time, this institution has inserted itself into nearly all
aspects of life, such that a man cannot so much as enjoy a pint of beer,
discipline his children, ride on the train, go to the doctor, open a
bank account, apply for a job, go fishing, or watch a sporting event
without the heavy hand of government being involved.
This is a beast that feeds on citizens; the more it feeds, the larger
it becomes and the hungrier it gets. Of all the solutions out there,
including armed conflict, civil disobedience, self-immolation, active
democracy, etc., the only one that truly destroys the beast is starving
it– take away the feast of productive citizens and accelerate its
collapse.
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choosing to reply @ your post william as it was at your post in the previous thread on this subject that I decided to leave the thread - your first comment had 41 quick junks by then, and I could see where the thread was headed, why bother.
for the record, I agree with you, and respect your stance amongst those who usually love your posts.
as to the rest of you, here's a fact you may choose to take on board or not:
which is why, if you choose to discipline through hitting, you should aim for the buttocks (more flesh, still painful) or the back of the legs (hella painful).
when an adult, particularly an adult male, hits a child in anger, in the face or head, they risk damage to the child's brain, hearing, jawbone (teeth), etc.
back to your "burn the witches" thread now. . .
Actually, isn't he the man who was found not guilty of abusing his child but was stuck in procedural hell regardless?
+1
Yes. It appears he was actually acquitted i.e., found "innocent".
All Americans should have been taught not to lick hands in their early years. You would have a better country today, America not the US (of A).
Let's keep it logical boys:
so there you have it. Obviously this person wasn't fully balanced. However, what he says; his ideas cannot be discredited based merely on who he was as a person. That is what is great about ideas; they're bigger and more durable than the men espousing them.
No. No. No. And NO.
One little Slap and wifey calls cops.
Suddendly the courts get involved tearing everything apart for a year or more with a uncertain future.
The thing the Man saw was freedom from the Hell he was enduring at the hands of the legal system and combined with the bias against Men re: abuse shelters etc. He learned how we work. And he also learned how THEY (The Courts) work.
And finally just said, fuck it. Light a match. But before he did, he published a 15 page paper stating why to anyone who cared to read and learn.
They are still trying to scrub the scars of his last act out of the sidewalk. That wont happen.
Thanks to the Internet, the 4 year old girl will grow up in about 12 or so years and READ the actual letter her Daddy left behind just before he died.
Then we are going to have a hell of a angry young adult on our hands who will intend to fight to make changes.
You can arrest a bad guy for whatever. Then continue to hammer the bad guy with jail, courts, lawyers etc etc etc and break that person and grind into powder dust while (Cops Speaky...._ "Getting it taken care of..." for months and years.
Screw that. In this day and age, there is ZERO tolerance for certain offenses no matter how slight. It is MUCH better NEVER to have children than take a chance on the "SYSTEM" Destroying you.
Did you read my post? It sounds like you're responding to something else.
I don't care about this DB. I don't care if he acutally was a saint or the goddamned devil. What I am talking about is determining whether or not the ideas he laid out in his letter are cogent and rational. That is what I'm setting my aim on.
"It is MUCH better NEVER to have children than take a chance on the "SYSTEM" Destroying you."
I guess we can add this to the list of reasons I don't have any kids.
Sometimes ZH tends to post replys off the intended spot. Don't take every reply as a direct assault under your post. When the server gets busy I find my post a few places down with several new ones around it at the same time.
Makes for interesting thread - story reading.
YA, that is what I figured had happened. My first response was a bit more vitriolic, but i realized that what you said probably happened and edited it to tone it down a bit. I've been trying to be less emotional around here. Raw emotion takes away from the level of discourse. I hate to see the awful places that some of our discussions tend towards around here. Gotta miss the blogspot times...
Back in my day, I had to walk 20 miles, barefoot through the snow to read zerohedge...
My spouse called the cops on me once. I had set her down, not thrown her, when she had jumped up and shoved me in the chest. Thankfully, for me legally, she kicked and punched me as I set her down. If she had not done that, I would have gone to jail--my life ruined FOREVER. The kicker... she called the cops only because I refused to turn the bedroom light off. Ahh, love... isn't it grant?
Don't over-react. "Ruined"? Please. These are the goon squad arresting you we are talking about.
36 to 55 million DV arrests they've made, per Ball's letter.
When I read that, I just laughed my ass off. So many? 1 out of 6 adults arrested, aka 1 of every 3 males? The problem is not Domestic Violence - it is the Government!!!! People, men and women fight. It's completely fucking normal to have arguments and small "spats" like you've described. Cops used to just leave it alone until OJ Simpson.
In a few years, they will again. The Government is too broke, and considering the producers who have been destoryed and are homeless, these policies have badly failed.
Some cities, you are already on your own as some Crime calls will not generate a response due to cuts.
she's a girl. She'll be indoctrinated to hate men and see all the risk-free environements they have created as "oppressive artifacts of the patriarchy," and bitch and moan about them as she drives to her climate controlled job over roads paved by men, in cars built and invented by men, using oil and gas that only men seem to go get, into a building in which every single piece of everything was done or invented by men, and collect a paycheck in her pantssuit for sitting in front of a desk with a computer on it clacking on facebook.
Without men, the lights don't fucking come on; there would be no lights. Think about that- who builds and operates plants, who goes a mile into the earth to dig coal out. And yet here we are in a male-denigrating society. Well at least productive males. Nonproductive criminal class thug males are revered.
100% correct. But you forget, we pay the mortgages and we also find out the banks DON'T OWN THE FUCKING TITLE ANYMORE YOU DOUCHEBAG!
"Help help, Trav's bein' repressed!"
I see your problem now. You just don't have any balls in real life, so you bitch and moan about how all your problems are caused by others. The WOMEN. The BLACKS. The JEWS.
Christ, what a loser.
I have few problems mostly because I avoid people like you.
You're a sick, tiny little man, whose only hope to become significant is for there to be a massive crash where you can then lord your "farm" and your silver over these same starving people you claim I hate.
You are the most repugnant piece of shit around; who the fuck are you trying to score brownie points with by being a sellout?
Unlike you, I don't NEED the approval of PC protected groups for my self-worth.
Yeah, you base your self worth on how many you MURDER.
And you don't know ANYTHING about me. If I wanted to get rich and "lord it over" people, do you really think I would broadcast the method for doing it beforehand?
You're a fucking moron. I don't want to be a poor man among beggers, I want live in a society of rich people, no matter my station. If I can get rich doing it, fine.
Also funny how you equate "not sterilizing the whole population of the Earth" with "scoring brownie points". Truth is, if you weren't an impotent fuck, I'd kill you myself if you even got close to implementing your plan for the destruction of mankind. Even if it meant dying myself. Happily, you are just a broken down old loser.
But hey, don't you have some kids to beat? Oh wait, you don't. lol.
I've never murdered ANYBODY. Where the fuck do you come up with this crazy shit?
You need to go see TCT because he can make a life's study out of you.
Between your mental retardation and clear insanity, you're an entirely new DSM IV category.
"Sterilizing the whole population of the earth"??? ROTFL. Is there ANY lie you won't tell? You're incapable of winning any debate except when you can out and out LIE about what the other person said.
All for what, cliff? To distract from the fact that you are a fool and a loser? Someone whose predictions fall the fuck apart DAILY?
I'd love for you to try to kill me...please, give it a try. Let yourself give into your hate and psychosis and come looking for me.
I know a TON about you. You are a fool and a pathetic loser. Really, what more is there? I also know that you have GLEEFULLY talked about when the starving hordes will come looking for your food and how you are going to be a veritable BARON with all your silver. Lying about that and trying to change your tune won't make that go away, Cliff.
You'll still be the same pathetic loser as yesterday except with one more notch in your "laughably failed predictions" belt.
Yes, he slapped his daugher. I can't imagine doing that to my own daughter but, regardless, he was brought up on charges and acquitted by a jury of his peers, yet the state still saw fit to ruin his (and his family's) life for their own benefit. That's fucked up.
Great post, thanks.
This why I choosed to LEAVE! This country won;t stand up for many years to come, and when it wants it wont be possible nor necessary, there wont be anyone around anymore!
What a looser. If you're going to do it, take some POS politicians with you!
Thats what I keep saying.
Exactly. Go down in a figurative blaze of glory that is sure to make headlines and spark action rather than go down in a solo literal blaze.
No, the man figures to take out at least the lobby past the front doors.
He expects others to finish the job. It's one thing to sit and talk trash, it's another when you grow a fucking pair and actually commit your prinicpals to action.
What do you have in mind?
Just don't shoot them - then they will ban guns.
Maybe reverse psychology....
Maybe we can beat the politicians to death with scientology, or we could use Ben Bernanke as a battering ram on their doors, or paper cut them to death with dollars.
Yes, yessss! My evil plan will work!!!!! Muahahahaha!
I disagree. He probably thought long and hard about his situation. Knowing that his family would never be restored, he decided to do the ultimate act of protest without hurting anyone else.
If he had not done what he had, who here would have heard of his case? Known the details? Read his letter?
"My assessment of this situation, however controversial it may be, remains very clear: the great faceless enemy that opposes us, irrespective of our country of origin, is the institution of government."
I don't agree. The enemy is the tiny percentage who own most of the land and wealth of the USA. The government merely works for them, likewise the media.
Land and wealth dont necessarily bring power. What brings power is the ability to deceive. You gain the trust of the people and at a vulnerable moment, you strike. In order for this to succeed you must be able to change your mask frequently, so nobody knows who they are up against.
The politicians aren't forced to work for the wealthy, they just freely choose to do so because they are corrupt. The uber-wealthy couldn't control everything if the politicians said NO. Our corrupt, incompetent, degenerate government is 100% to blame IMHO.
If it didn't cost so damn much to run a campaign for office, maybe they wouldn't be as likely to become corrupt. Campaign finance reform is the only solution.
http://fixcongressfirst.org/
Oh....
Is Star Search on tonight...???
suggesting that if there is, in fact, going to be a fight for the soul of the country, it’s a long way off
unfortunately correct
I know that this sounds harsh but nobody cares.
America has dis-integrated. Horatio Alger is dead.
We used to have a sense of what this country was, truly the land of the free and home of the brave. A place to become whatever you wanted to, limited only by your own imagination.
A few months ago a columnist wrote that we have become a place where we are less likely these days to say 'pardon me' as we would 'go fuck yourself'.
Pity.
Yes the USA right now is nothing but a big open air concentration camp with some vague illusions of 'freedom'.
Hope & Change. Thank the f*cks here on ZH who voted for the muslim in 2008.
You aint lumping me with the 2008 hope and change, I junked you for that.
I voted for Huckabee, even though he pulled out of the race and then held nose and voted McCain as did about 70% of my area.
(O_o) what does a puppet have to do with any of this?
His last statement was an interesting read. I was skeptical of the quality of his message at first and didn't bother reading it, but was surprised by the depth of the content when I finally did.
Exactly. This is not some enraged emo raving of a lunatic working himself up to the point of self immoplation.
This man has been working on this issue and how to resolve it and why for a VERY long time.
Well,,, this goes back to my reason why UE Benefits were extended. As long as the people have a TV and a bag of Doritos, you're not gonna get to that critical mass needed..
How much longer can unemployment benefits and free food to the masses really go on for, when the entire rest of the world is suffering thru terrible 'austerity measures', I bet its not near as far off as people believe.
I hope you're right.. I was thinking end of last year would be stretching it.. but apparently, they can kick this can for a while..
yep
The comment thread when that was reported on ZH was telling indeed. Many people supported the whole shebang because the guy was violent.
Yes, correct. And this whole sham after has been just desserts? For whom? Read his note.
Yup, apathy abounds. Everywhere. TV+Flouride+Lithium?
Yicks.
ORI
http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/06/17/nuclear-american-cross-other-...
we gonna go 500 posts on this one too?
I think so.
More flamers please.
Edit: Grabbed this from another article to provide people some backstory
Thomas James Ball, born 2/21/53 and his wife at the time, Karen Louise Ball (maiden name Primiano), born 3/2/65 had begun divorce proceedings about a decade ago. It was alleged that Ball had committed domestic violence against his 4 year old daughter at the time, Melissa. Karen had called Monadnock Family Services after the incident and was allegedly told that if she did not report the incident to police, that she would be arrested for child abuse. She called Jaffrey PD out of fear of what the government people would do to her family (steal her kids if they were both arrested) and because of their mandatory arrest policy in domestic violence cases, Thomas was arrested. He was found not guilty of simple assault in Cheshire Superior Court, despite slapping his daughter multiple times and causing bleeding. The Jaffrey PD apparently admitted that pressing forward as a domestic violence case was a mistake. His wife’s testimony shows he did not have a history of violence. Thomas figured he’d get to see his kids again after the not guilty. He figured wrong. The court continued to press for counseling at Monadnock Family Services (MFS) prior to allowing Thomas unsupervised visits with his kids. Of course, this is a huge racket for MFS, who likely is paid for every one of the cases they are sent by the court, either by the people involved or by the state of NH.
+1, follow the money..
Thanks for posting this Monster Zero for all the ignorants who didn't bother actually reading the entire account.
I lived in NH, it is my home State. I will continue fighting the family court racket that seperates families for a year or MORE with no due process.
My case was a decade ago as well. My wife cold cocked me from behind (she's Spanish and makes up in other ways for the hot temper) and kept punching. I wrestled her to the ground to stop it. But it was me, that got arrested, four misdameanors incluing 'false imprisonment'. My wife similar to Mrs. Ball called the Prosecutor and told her she was refusing to testify in court, that she was the one that should have been charged in any event. The Prosecutor threatened my wife with jail time if she didn't testify. When I began moves to bring this to Supreme Court the Prosecutor asked if we could just cut a deal. Accept the charges, no fine no jail time and take Ending the Violence course. I was more naive, I should have told them all to FUCK OFF and do exactly as Tom Ball did.
This guy got DESTROYED for standing up to a nasty, Fascist State. He did slap his child, but under classic law this was not considered child abuse but this State and their nasty little family law vixens (their all chicks) get their hands into you they just keep pyling it on. His mention of Hell Hath No Fury Like a Woman Scorned is true, especially about NH and family law. To them, his failure to capitulate meant he must be thrown into a deep, dark hole never to be discovered again.
Tom Ball's real crime was not being born connected and rich. This guy is a hero and most of you retarded supposed 'freedom fighters' don't get it. Your depth perception on a scale of 1-10 is -1, Tyler excluded but Tyler is one person and needs more people doing more work helping. Many of you tards don't even bother reading his letter. Fuck you.
At one point in my divorce, there were 10 people on my "payroll" ...
Her: 2 divorce attorneys, accountant, court appointed children counselor.
Myself: Divorce attorney, accountant, court ordered psychiatrist, court appointed special master, court appointed supervised visitation person.
What a flocking nightmare ... I consider the period one of the great trials of my life. I went 2+ years without seeing my children. At one point, my Ex was receiving shock therapy for clinical manic depression, and the judge/counsellors still ordered my children to return to their mother's primary care, even though she was essentially incapacitated from her disease. The courts do everything they can to keep the children with the mother. My primary mandate was to keep writing checks to these bloodsuckers ...
Tragically, in my case, the mother of my children took her life 8 years ago ...
This is why I try my best qwhen I can to help families resolve divorce issues without involving the courts.
It is fucking insanity when the courts get involved. I am sorry to hear about your wife. There is a good chance it probably was manic depression or bipolar disorder, perhaps precipitated by stress.
Surely your court appointed psychiatrist was not a psychiatrist but a psychologist. I have never seen a family court pay enough to get a psychiatrist involved. We just rubber stamp the psychology and social work evaluations. Psychologists like to pass themselves off as M.D.s or at least confuse the issue with people. If you didn't have any mental health history surely it was just for a fitness for parenting evaluation.
When parents can't agree how to solve their divorce issues by themselves, then you take your chances with an adversarial legal system.
I was paying up to 6 grand a month to a woman who was essentially putting it up her nose. Eventually, she self-destructed. At every turn people asked me why I didn't make a case for sole custody...why? So I can drag the kids through MORE of this shit and end up enriching the entire system even further? So a judge can decide that day, hey I think I'll give full custody to her and let her move to timbuktu?
It was a huge tribulation but in the end, the outcome was finally just. They sit here everyday and sometimes in their precious way they ask what I am typing about. I calmly respond that I am just embarrassing some idiot named mosely-claven on the internet and yes, I know, it is not right for me to use my superior intellect to make such a fool of him all the time. I should be above that. It's just so much fun though.
His name was Thomas James Ball.
God speed patriot, god speed.
Yes, and hopefully it brings more Patriots to do more effective actions to make changes for the better so that future slaps wont result in another Ball Incident.
RIP. This Nation is bought and paid for by the blood of those who gave some or all for the rest of us unwashed trash known as Citizens to even have a taste of freedom these days.
Al Jazeera will be covering the next revolution.
...and nobody in America will see it on TV.
"The revolution will not be televised."
...and nobody in America will see it on TV.
"The revolution will not be televised."
'His name was Thomas John Ball, his name was Thomas John Ball'
This is not the hero you are looking for.
He orginally went to jail for busting his 4yo daughter in the face hard enough to bust her lip.
Really wheres that story, link it.
http://freekeene.com/2011/06/16/thomas-james-ball-self-immolated-in-prot...
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/164827/20110617/thomas-ball-self-immolate-child-support.htm
http://www.sentinelsource.com/news/local/last-statement-sent-to-sentinel-from-self-immolation-victim/article_cd181c8e-983b-11e0-a559-001cc4c03286.html
Found 'not guilty' of any child abuse.
From his very own statement:
My story starts with the infamous slapping incident of April 2001. While putting my four year old daughter to bed, she began licking my hand. After giving her three verbal warnings I slapped her. She got a cut lip. My wife asked me to leave to calm things down.
Courts are a clusterfuck of a phony stage show, but this is not the guy you want to champion.
If he'd have taken a belt to her ass, I'd be on your side. He hit her in the face.
I have been slapped, spanked, Belted, endured other kinds of punishments meant to teach me as a child not to do certain things.
Spare not the rod and you will have a good Child. If you spoil it by not delivering punishment on that God-given big padded cheek on the face or butt... then you are gonna get bit in the ass later in life.
The problem is today's society. You cannot even say anything to your own child in public without being crucified for it.
Fuck em.
I would never slap a 4-year old in the face, for any reason. Period. If this slob wasn't drunk on $4.99 scotch, he would have walked away from his daughter for a couple of minutes, to cool down and stop her from doing the weird thing. Did this asshole really think that his wife wouldn't be pissed with him for slapping his 4-year old in the face?
My mother slapped me in the face twice. Once for being disrespectful to her. The other for swearing in her presence, itself disrespectful.
Should my mother have been ripped from our home, charged with various crimes, compelled to pay child support and broken down into feral animal existence for teaching me one of the most important lessons of my life?
You are insane. Your mother -- and perhaps father -- obviously failed to teach you certain very basic, very important lessons. I have the idea you were raised in "day care" or by someone not your mother and father. Right or wrong? Very curious from an academic standpoint, to improve my discernment ability.
Were you 4 years old at the time of the slapping incidents? Did you weigh, what, 35-40 pounds at the time you were 4 years old? FU, you pompus snake handling retard. Discern this (upraised middle finger). Mr. Roman Candle was an adult, the decision to strike his 4-year old daughter in the face could be expected to lead to trouble in his marriage, leading to the nightmare of American divorce court. He knew the risks, but he was too drunk to care.
And you are a clueless idiot, babbling advice on things you don't understand.
STFU.
+1
What do you understand? Have you ever looked into the eyes of a 4-year old girl? I have, and I wouldn't smash her in the face, not for a million years. A fine POS, you are.
Hey btw, if that's really your picture, you look like a nice, ugly bloated alcoholic that enjoys hitting little kids. Stay away from my neigborhood.
I see your parents failed to asswupe you into shape boy. That's your problem.
I'm very close to my parents. I help them in their old age. Isn't that what a good son does? Sayonara, cracker, enjoy your 3:50 handle of peppermint schnapps.
Hey and btw, my not agreeing with you is your problem, not mine. I don't trust people who seem to think that physical violence is necessary for a child's healthy development.
How about we just beat the shit out of you for being annoying?
I seriously doubt that you'd say that to my face, in a bar for example.
Wanna bet?
And you have nevere made a mistake that you later regretted? I'm so sick of people posting here trying to judge this man. All of your arrogant people on your high thrown. Look in the mirror and let the reflection do the work. You are part of the problem.
there was this one story of a dickhead kid, the "youth" of today, out with his grandma. He was mouthing off and she slapped him. Police were called; they arrested her. He was a teen.
Oh, I thought everything was genetic? Suddenly now you are claiming that that is not the case?
Or perhaps the point of your little anecdote is that you are now happy because the old woman is in jail, and won't produce any more offspring which might threaten your new Reich?
who ever said everything was genetic, you motherfucking idiot?
Are you capable of stringing a single SENTENCE together without committing at least 2 logical fallacies?
I am claiming that uncivil morons like you need to have their asses kicked.
And genocidal maniacs like you need a bullet between the eyes.
But the world isn't just, is it?
Your kids don't miss you :(
no they don't because they live with me 24x7, dipshit.
Oh, what? Didn't see that one coming, did you? Moron.
Besides being the lowest life scum to bring someone's family into things, yet another proclamation you've made has fallen flat on its face.
One day, MAYBE you will get something right. Until then, you are the laughingstock of this forum.
Next time you get pinched with a bag of weed we'll all make sure you do ten years for it. Meanwhile OJ's will keep driving off into the sunset. Piss off dickhead.
lol, for real, but he was rich, so who cares if he murdered the shit out of her?
agree 100%, he hit a 4 yo little girl in the face hard enough to cut her lip, come on now - we can find better "heroes" than this cretin.
It's too bad because the issue of discrimination against men is a serious one that needs more attention. This is NOT the guy to rally around, however. I'd recommend these 2 books:
http://www.amazon.com/Spreading-Misandry-Teaching-Contempt-Popular/dp/07...
http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Male-Power-Warren-Farrell/dp/0425181448/ref=s...
Guest Post: New Hampshire Man Burns Self At Courthouse In Protest
+1
I cannot count how many busted lips and bruises my daughter has had, and they were all caused by HER falling, slipping, playing, etc. Give me a break with the bust her lip shit. Children get hurt all of the time, and they get hurt easily. This man had no history of violence. As a child my dad slapped me in the face. I guess that makes him a PoS too, huh?
Where are the Pattons of today? Sadly, they have all been neutered apparently.
The feminizing of America began in the wake of WWI. And it has been a one way street ever since.
Anyone could follow on here with 1,000 examples. How about baseball games where no on keeps score to help inflate the self esteem of the little leaguers?
I'm not looking for any hero at all.
He was not convicted.
Speaking ill of the dead is not the way to build up good karma, Rodent.
He admitted it.
You are old school.
Good thing I'm not Hindu.
You wrote:
You took liberties with the facts to paint this man in the worst possible light - to try to imply that he was guilty of some crime. The only thing he admitted to was using corporal punishment, not abuse. Your use of the term 'busting' is a dishonest smear of a dead man who can not defend himself. Given the low threshold for what is considered abusive these days, he'd have been convicted if he had 'busted' his child in the face. Whether you or I find his methods appropriate is neither here nor there.
Not being Hindu does not make your act any less despicable. Nor is the notion of 'what goes around comes around' limited to any particular religion.
Correct.
Lazy, uninvolved Americans could not have asked for a simpler revolutionary path to follow. Close your wallets, consume only necessities, reduce debt, and save money in a local bank. All three heads of the hydra [bankers/corporations/DC politicians] will begin to shrivel.
yawn!
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/chibrknews-probation-for-cop-who-cheated-man-out-of-1m-20110617,0,3600282.story
This is amazing, now i consider myself well informed, i read and pay attention to all the news flows from ZH to MSM. But i must say i did not see this story intill this morning when i received an email from Sovereign Man. I agree with Black wtf is going on? When the folks start lighting themselves on fire it's a sign. Its sign whether the news reports it or not.
Get your lighter out, hold your index finger over the flame........... Exactly.
I live about 50 miles east of Keene, NH and I have not heard anything on the news about this. I searched the WMUR news 9 site (Manchester station) and there were two stories on it but I would have thought it would have been a lot bigger news. They had a two paragraph story with," the police would not release any possible motives." That's because there covering it up like a cat turd in a litter box. Fuckers. It's our job to not let it die and tell every one we know about it. Poor bastard, it's got to be pretty fuckin' bad to end it like that.
And that is why the Internet is breaking the back of regular obselete Media because they refuse to get to the real story.
It stinks and someone will dig down and uncover it soon enough.
IIf it aint for ZH and other Internet sites, I would not KNOW a damn thing about anything if all I had was rabbit ears through a DTV box on the boob tube. Ugh.
"I have not heard anything on the news"
I mentioned that in last weeks post, almost a complete media blackout. No one in my circle even heard of it until I told them.
Tax Revolt Bitchez.....!
When ya going to stop feeding the dragon...???
Huh...???
this is why:
http://plancast.com/p/5ton/national-dont-give-shit-day
Crispy critters.
Keep 'em in line with fear, use the credit score line so they know their insurance rates, mortgage, credit cards - all of it can disappear with even a false score, one of like four. Fear will work for a long time making even the most angry tow the line.
->It makes people keep their heads down and mind their own business and allow shit to happen to other people.....so long as its other people, until you're the other people.
Credit score dont mean shit these days.
In fact if you actually achieve credit and start to carry a balance against a ever increasingly solvent Nation being shoved to the Cliff of Default.... then you have lost the one great lesson in life. BE FREE and LET NO ONE except death and taxes have a claim on your ass.
Unshackle the fears and be free.
Some folks use credit cards to buy stuff and then shaft the bank or pay it clear and profit immensly. I once shifted a 18% interest card with 7,300 onto a intro 0% for 9 months and it was paid off in 5 months.
That big bank no longer issues 0% promotions, they got BURNED.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5Ujn2UxTcY&feature=related
true or false
walk away
There must have been a time in the distant past when there was no govt ....and all was well.
did someone whose initials are s.b. not read zH this weekend?
At a certain point in the future
technology will be so advanced,
surveillance will be so pervasive,
by implanting an RFID chip into every object, every human being,
weapons will have such a leveraged effect,
meaning that one soldier can control an ever larger acreage of ground and hold it,
until the globalized regime of the Bilderbergers,
the One-World-Government,
will be impossible to stop,
neither from within,
nor from outside.
The ongoing impoverishing of large swathes of the population,
the ever increasing concentration of wealth in the hands of a few,
is by design,
to make it impossible for people,
to resist their own enslavement,
by taking away all financial means to finance the resistance.
You shall not travel,
you shall not own a car,
you shall not eat,
not drink,
you shall not have critical thought.
That's their goal, that is their intention.
We have this information from Jim Tucker, who has connection to a mole inside the Bilderberg Group.
Correct, owning a car and house and have somethig extra is almost impossible(without debt), even if you buy a car for 2000 euros you still pay 2000 per year on top for insurance, gas taxes, road taxes, mandatory checkups etc.
This is a policy of suppression you can either go along with the system selling your soul and emptying your wallet or be an outcast, you are being 'forced' to have a mortgade till you're 50ty, you buy 1/2 of the things on credit and any capital gains you might have with what's left over are taxed at 50%(in Germany) good luck trying to save (sucker) seems to be the message from the government
That is if you drive the damn thing.
We reconfigured our employment to be within a few miles instead of commuting 120-150 each day.
One vehicle only gets about 2000 miles each year and the other barely 8000 these days.
Hardly anything to worry about with expenses. I have enough insurance above and beyond so I can total someone's Corvette or Rolls and not worry about the lack of coverage.
The Bilderberg's will be easy to spot. They're the one that won't be eating Kraft Dinner (cheese flavored melamine from China).
HAHAHA
The RFID observation is spot on though... The Netherlands, as a birthplace for Bilderberg is a sort of "benign testing ground" for the implementation of this all pervasive "self correcting through technology" type slave-planet-idea, the morons (elite) entertain.
This will fail, miserably. As children of adaptive, inventive mother nature, there are already forces countering it. Every action has a reaction. The threat does need to be identified though... And the impoverishment of a population is indeed an important step towards that slave-planet-idea.
The elite have found a new ally in the "green parties" who are mesmerised that finally someone came to the rescue, of the planet, which is a GENUINE issue. But they are played, like an old piano. The solution is NOT impoverishment and enslavement of human beings.
My big concern is the total attack on the natural world and us. It remains hidden from the "green parties" as well, or perhaps they've 'adapted'? They sure changed their tune the last few months...
Even ARTE now openly is uncritical of fission nuclear. WE CAN TRUST NO ESTABLISHED ORDER. This makes coöperation challenging.
Remains... WHO IS PLAYING THE ELITE, AND WHY?
Now there is someone who speaks a truth.
If I was Richie Rich I would not look or live like one.
We do have a fella in our town who simply is past his prime, obese and does not care for shaving etc.
A birdie told me that day he lives quietly despite his billionare status and driving a old 80's toyota commute bomb.
Who knew? The one thing I did notice was his complete disregard for the total amount of the purchase, it meant nothing to him while others were making sure to stay within whatever money they decided to spend.
One lucky person indeed. The masses march past his hovel and burn mansions some distance away.
Gay, non-white, non-male, muslim = FRONT PAGE NEWSPEAK
Pretty incredible that this hasnt even made a blip on the radar. A sad non-suprise though, the article makes a good point though that there is a looong way to go before people react to something like this. My prediction? Only thing that is going to motivat change is when the power goes out, TV turns off and there's no more internet. Until that happens, if ever, things like this will go unnoticed and the status quo will lumber along, no matter how bad it gets out there.
A man lights himself on fire in Tunisia, he's a hero.
A man lights himself in fire in USA, what a loony
Agreed. The grid is the seditive.
You mean Sedative right? yes the Sheep are asleep, dreaming the silversong medicine in the land of Nod while everything conspires to turn them into living organ donors after everything else has been extracted from them.
It's called American Exceptionalism.
If someone lit him self on fire at the Lincoln Memorial or on the steps of the Capitol that would be hard to ignore
not that I am encouraging any1
They wont be allowed to burn long enough. Instead only suffer semi cremation and then prosecuted for years in a situation designed specifically for the sucide attempt so that they dont have the freedom to attempt such an act ever again.
It sure would make getting body slammed for dancing a lot more difficult.
You are gonna need to soak the cop first. while he is standing there getting mad get away and light.
Dont worry, they will stay away and rescue cop first while you burn....
So who's gonna step up and accelerate the process by organizing and taking down a large portion of the grid?
Here's what you need to know about structural vulnerability in the system: http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0401084v1
I eluded to this last week. The problem is more people would complain they can't watch television than actually take notice of what has happened to their (our) country.
Don't forget, it also means no refrigerators, no AC, no ATMs, no food stamp cards, etc. It could get interesting fast if done on a large enough scale.
his last statement is quite lucid and well-written. he was flawed, of course, but he was only pointing out how flawed our 'nation of laws' has become as well, especially in interferring with family matters by people (gov't.) who were not experts at family matters and just fucked things up even worse, breaking up families. we've all heard the horror stories.
Never underestimate the person who has nothing else of value (to them) left to lose. The man's children was his only thing of value left, and they were apparently being barred from him indefinitely.
How tragic that this is what our Republic has been reduced to. 99 percent of Americans live in blissful ignorance of what's going on. They care more about the Kardashians and celebrity gossip than they do about the tyrannical police state grid that's being coverly launched.
Thank TV and the media plus the idiots who watch. It has empowered the elites.
Social conditioning at its finest.
Agreed.
A miserable failure desperate to attach relevance to a failed existence. He goes out like many suicides go out----blaming everyone but themselves.
Maybe if the worthless piece of shit hadn't slapped his daughter, then his inbred wife wouldn't have called the cops.
Despicable piece of shit using his child abuse as an attempt to martyr himself.
A motherfucker that slaps his infant daughter in the face hard enough to cut her, deserves life without parole.
Smokey1
Before I would condemn everything about this guy, I would want to know what evidence there was that he slapped his daughter so hard, that she bled from the mouth.
Having had a very inventive and vindictive ex-wife, I can assure you that things you never dreamt possible become real to a judge. And naturally, there are NEVER any consequences to the ex-wife.
You're junked for this? Obviously, the junkers have never encountered the likes of my ex- sister-in-law...
Is english your 2nd language? Wife called the cops because Government sponsored counselor told her that if she didn't she would go to jail and the child to foster care. Man cleared of child abuse, admin cops say that they shouldn't have charged the man. Daughter was not an infant. Cut and blead are not the same thing. We don't know if her lip was gushing, a thin red trickle, or a single red spot.
Maybe you would have some credibility if you didn't miss so many facts in your rant.
Please tell me about the English language, you illiterate hayseed. "Cut and blead"---bleed is spelled with two e's, you mongoloid English major (note that English is capitalized).
This fucking tough guy admitted he slapped his daughter and said "she got a cut lip."
Like her cut lip was some kind of unfortunate coincidence of unknown cause. The child was four years old. That's close enough to infancy, when it comes to a grown man slapping his daughter because of his daughter showing her affection for him. It makes not one fucking shit whether her lip was gushing, a single spot, or a thin trickle.
The son of a bitch should have been sent to Pelican Bay for life.
Maybe you'd have some credibility if you weren't a dumbass.
Let me get this straight. A single slap warrants a life sentence to you? You sir are a fucking idiot.
If he gets stopped for speeding and the cops kick the ever-livin' shit out of him - at least he'll know he deserved it.
OK - I got it - your argument was "close enough" to the truth to warrant consideration. So "close enough" in your book is all it takes. You don't belong here - go back to MSNBC/CNBS.
Smokey says - Facts need only be "close enough" - spelling on the other hand - must be Exact.
I commented on his spelling as a result of his criticizing my English.
Next time, read the entire exchange before throwing up on the blog, you ignorant, uncircumcised, fetid douchebag.
You want me to read the "entire exchange" when you don't even read the original post? And "He" (or me, depending on your ability to follow an exchange) was criticizing your reading comprehension - not your grammer. But good job focussing on the wrong thing - yet another time.
Tell me about reading comprehension, you fucking retard.
Grammar is spelled with two a's.
Focusing is spelled with one s.
Did you even make it past kindergarten?
Who ties your shoes in the morning?
JFC, this is too easy.
One more time - wide of the mark. I guess you only have a spelling dictionary so "comprehension" is beyond your limits. OK - now I get it.
"JFC, this is too easy."
Getting your ass kicked usually is pretty easy.
I wouldn't know about getting my ass kicked. Probably because I spend so much time washing your wife's tonsils with my Single Celled Soldiers.
She swallows, too.