Guest Post: Nuclear Japan, Stock Market "Holding Up", Pictures Of 'Reactor' 3 And 4

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Nuclear Japan, Stock market "holding up", Pictures of 'Reactor' 3 and 4

I have continued amazement that very few photo from "on the ground" have
been released from day 1.   It seems that the plants would have many
cameras built in, and those systems destroyed by the quake or blast
could be replaced with quickly set up cameras and/or robots.

This picture says volumes...."Reactor 3 and 4" are not really facilities
anymore, as opposed to smouldering masses of twisted metal.

From my continuing research, Chernobyl radiation release was pretty bad,
and resulted from direct fire on the uranium and by-products.   Now
they say that has already happened in Japan (perhaps).  See below for
"Spent Fuel on Fire?!" which is still not 100% clear in my mind.

A scenario in which molten reactor materials -uranium--"perfectly" wraps
around a pool of water, causing a super-heated explosion of steam
launching radioactive materials in a massive blast is the "worst" case
scenario, but what are the odds of this perfectly happening, perfectly
wrong?   Very small is the general consensus and I believe that one.  
Maybe in the range of 1%, NOT 10%.
What about a 5000 degF mass of molten reactor materials (let's just say
uranium, although stuff morphs into other stuff that can be worse)
melting it's way through a damaged concrete floor, into a pocket of
water or sea water below the plant, or rolling right into the ocean?  
Purely conjecture, but these are the mostly likely worst case scenarios

And the Chernobyl type scenario, direct fire on the nuclear materials
or, even worse, on the "used" nuclear waste that was being stored at
reactors 4, 5, AND 6.    Prior to last night, we never even heard of 5
or 6, now we find that rather than store the waste materials underneath a
big mountain like in western united states, that they decided last fall
to store all the old materials in the facilities next to the working
nuclear plants, on the ocean, on the ring of fire.

From a Russia Expert on Chernobyl, and the storing of nuclear spent materials--
Chernobyl Expert slams storage methods

"Spent Fuel on Fire?!"  --this is not clear, but seems quite possible.

Link below is from UN Nuclear Agency saying that indeed a spent fuel
pool was in a fire at Reactor 4, review the picture above.  Indeed that
article below is very clear that the fire was at the spent fuel pool,
and that is what caused a huge release of radioactivity.

Spent Fuel Pool in a Fire

Corrections, further misinformation, and Pot Shots---
So someone says the fire was at the spent fuel (that would be very bad),
and then someone else says...No, that fire was from an oil leak from a
pump--and then points to a link---of which when you check the link, says
nothing about the location of the fire, just that it was put out in 2
hours.  The second link also states how they tried to add water to the
#4 spent fuel pool--and failed.   These spent fuel pools have 16 feet
deep water over the top of the used fuel stored in them.   FOR
CONVENIENCE, these pools are located at the roof level of the
containment buildings!  What is there was a massive earthquake and the
building was cracked, and the water leaked out!   What if the
containment building also blew up due to hydrogen explosion.

Here is a direct download described how the used fuel is stored at Fukushima - very scary and enlightening READ IT
Here are the links to the "Corrections" comment -- the Pot shot part

Here is the problem: The Authorities are very concerned with all out panic. 
The Japanese people have strong morale values, and do not just "lose
it" like would happen in most places already.   But at some point, if
they reach the breaking point, it could be a very strong social

The governor of Fukushima prefecture, Yuhei Sato, criticised
official handling of the crisis, telling Japan's NHK TV: "The anxiety
and anger being felt by people in Fukushima have reached a boiling

So-the authorities want calmness, they don't want to instill panic.  
And thus they feel it necessary to withhold information, which has
obviously been withheld from the very beginning.  Also the classic
example of "Denial"....maybe it is not as bad as we think it
is...example...."maybe it is just a coincidence that 4 airplane are off
course and not communicating on 9-11-01".    Denial, and hoping to avoid
being "chicken little" should the situation not be as bad as you think
it may be.  Very closely related to Denial is "Hope".   Hope is a double
edged sword, without hope --the will to take effective action can be
curtailed, but the wrong hope, the ability to see the need for action
can be blocked.

From the Emperor of Japan who rarely speaks in public, but is highly respected.

"I am deeply concerned about the nuclear situation because
it is unpredictable," he said. "With the help of those involved I hope
things will not get worse."

Please read this quote below and then look at the picture at the top of this post.

Nuclear experts have repeatedly stressed that radiation
releases on the scale of Chernobyl are unlikely or even impossible,
given the Japanese plant’s heavier engineering and additional layers of containment. Still, Tokyo Electric said radiation briefly rose to dangerous levels at the plant Tuesday morning and again on Wednesday.

Above from the Washington Post

But people have to make real decisions.   Do we encourage our family in
Tokyo to leave at any cost, whatever it takes?   Transportation is
difficult, most trains are running, there are blackouts on a regular
basis.    Just how bad is it, how bad could it become?   Yesterday the
winds were blowing the radioactive steam and such across the mainland of
Japan, today the winds are blowing westerly across the Pacific.

And therein lies the dilemma, all based on poorly provided
information, does one recommend drastic action?  Indeed, I would
flee...the cost of fleeing may be fairly dear, but the cost of staying
and have the worst or second worst or third worst scenario play out may
be a very very high cost.

Finally, something to think about, here is one that appears to be a few
days old, from and MIT nuclear "expert" stating in these excerpts--

Well, first off, we can't have a Chernobyl-like situation. The system is designed so that as long as we keep water in there to keep it cool, nothing will happen.

if the water all boils and evaporates, then the fuel will stay molten
and eventually melt through the steel vessel. But that's already beyond a hypothetical worst-case scenario for me. 

you have the other containment vessel, with a concrete faceplate
underneath that's between four and 10 feet thick. But melting through
that is hypothetical beyond normal reasoning.

then, worst comes to worst, there are pumps that can take water from
the local cooling water supply, in this case the ocean, and just pump
water in there. As long as there's water in there, it might be expensive for the utility to get it cleaned up, but everything is going to be fine.

It might be a financial disaster, but no member of the public has been hurt, and I doubt anybody will be.

 Here is a link to that MIT "Expert" -- he is already proven wrong at many levels.

 Expert describes how bad could it get

This type of thinking reminds me of how our US security "experts" could
not imagine an airliner being used as a weapon.    When will we demand

Chernobyl was attempted to be covered up 100% at the beginning, even
though eventually 600,000 people used as "liquidators" were eventually
brought in to cleanup, the first 200,000 were exposed to heavy
radiation.  Some pictures (still in my mind from 1986) showed workers in
normal street clothes shovelling radioactive materials into

Tokyo Electric Power tried to cover up their problems at the start, the
Prime Minister was reportedly extremely mad when they finally fessed up a
little bit 3 hours after it had already become a real problem.

Apparently they are bringing in "Firm Power" meaning a new power line
from other utilities so at least the brave workers at the site have some
real power to help in whatever tasks they are doing while wearing full
suits and humping around huge air tanks on their backs.

I will be out in training all day Wed

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CitizenPete's picture

WOW  3 is looking really good. 

AN0NYM0US's picture

Crazy thought, but maybe, just maybe this isn't the end of the world or even Japan

ebworthen's picture


It wasn't the end of the world in 1939 - well - it was within five years for 20+ million humans but - you get the picture...


Dr. Porkchop's picture


When you're homeless, your family, or whole town is gone  forever and on top of that there is a looming nuclear disaster, the end of the world is relative.

Nobody special's picture

It's time for real-time information isn't it?  Here is a live feed to a Japanese broadcast in English.

Spalding_Smailes's picture


0454: Radiation level unchanged despite choppers dousing reactor - Kyodo, quoting Tepco.


  1. 0401: Ceiling of Reactor 4 reduced to frame, power station station operator Tepco says - Kyoto,
  2. 0358: The US is chartering aircraft to Tokyo help Americans leave Japan - Reuters, quoting state department.
  3. 0357: US government authorises voluntary departure of family members of embassy staff - Reuters, quoting state department.
  4. 0355: Pressure is rising again at Reactor 3, the power station operator says - Reuters. That reactor includes plutonium and uranium in its fuel mix.
  5. 0352: The temperature of Reactor 5 is now a growing cause for concern, a Japanese official reports. "The level of water in the reactor is lowering and the pressure is rising," he says. 

rocker's picture

Yes, but what matters is the maket is "Holding Up". The Bernanke put lives on, and CNBC is happy about it.

CNBC's Kudlow on Japan Quake: "Be Grateful Human Toll Much Worse than Economic Toll" ... Now that's Class.

JW n FL's picture

THE Japanese owner of the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant falsified safety data and "dishonestly" tried to cover up problems there.

Tokyo Electric Power Co injected air into the containment vessel of Fukushima reactor No 1 to artificially “lower the leak rate”. When caught, the company expressed its “sincere apologies for conducting dishonest practices”.

The misconduct came to light in 2002 after whistleblowers working for General Electric, which designed the reactor, complained to the Japanese government. Another GE employee later confessed that he had falsified records of inspections of reactor No1 in 1989 - at the request of TEPCO officials. He also admitted to falsifying other inspection reports, also on request of the client. After that incident TEPCO was forced to shut down 17 reactors, albeit temporarily.

Thomas's picture

That MIT boy is a total fool. Don't let the affiliation deceive you.

navy62802's picture

Concur. I was dubious after he kept emphasizing the fact that he's not a nuclear engineer the other night. Instead, he's a "nuclear expert," whatever the hell that means.

Ahmeexnal's picture

He probably took a course on elementary nuclear physics in High School.

TruthInSunshine's picture

So, we now have two MIT Professors and "experts" who have shredded their credibility beyond anything imaginable.

What happened to MIT? It used to have a fine reputation.

Freddie's picture

I guess the imaginary GW scam faded away so they needed a new bandwagon to jump on.  GW made many university professors and "scientists" look like used car salesmen.  Anything for grant money.  

Judge Judy Scheinlok's picture

It all about where the funding comes from:

"About Lincoln Laboratory
MIT Lincoln Laboratory is a federally funded research and development center chartered to apply advanced technology to problems of national security."

swmnguy's picture

"ANONYMOUS":  Gosh, you're just a ray of sunshine, with your wonderful common sense.  Of course the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of the Earth hasn't been "the end of the world."  Yet.  But probably the worst thing that has ever happened was pretty bad for somebody, if not you. 

Having Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuked wasn't the end of Japan either, but I bet they don't think, in retrospect, that being nuked wasn't that bad and maybe just a little bit overblown.  Although perhaps you or your perceived financial interests weren't harmed by Fat Man and Little Boy.

Perhaps you think you see a way in which your ox might not end up being gored in this situation.

As you suggest, your thought isn't crazy.  It is cynically disingenuous, though.

franzpick's picture

If you like that, you'll love the aerial file-photo images taken months ago of undamaged reactors 1,2,3 and 4 shown regularly as background on CNN and FOX news desk presentations.

Network broadcast of this deteriorating and possibly worldwide-spreading radiation disaster is an insult beyond discription.

slewie the pi-rat's picture


the place is already 40% cooked!  and getting worse...  this author left out the plutonium-laced mox rods in #3, which went ape-shit daze ago! 

MOX fuel rods used in Japanese Nuclear Reactor present multiple dangers

either this is true or not.  several zeroH threads have gone here.  to my knowledge, it has been neither denied nor refuted. 

the problem with this type of propaganda is that it "innocently" leaves out the most dangerous  life-destroying substance in the world, now being served into a jet stream near you.

of course, this writer may not have heard of this, b/c it's a secret, but everything else which was mentioned in these same threads on zeroH just happens to be covered in this asswipe's report.

if he mentioned the plutonium and i missed it, i apologize.  there is non-critical thinking here as to boggle the tobble.

Michael's picture

All the grass and vegetation looks dead.

zhandax's picture

Michael, remember the part about destroyed homes and lack of food being aggravated by "temperatures dipping to freezing" in the reports?  Spring is just around the corner and will almost certainly arrive before containment but neither is there yet.

Jump The Shark's picture

We are all wanting this to end well, or end at least

boeing747's picture

What a funny day, Japna PPT, US PPT and China PPT work together to restore 'Financial Confidence around Global'.

Boilermaker's picture

The fraud will continue at increasing levels until the suspicion of fraud is wiped out!

RobotTrader's picture

Seem like every night the Plunger Team shows up and starts jacking up futures.

There is a slight dip in the morning, then the mo-mo monkeys start buying crap hand over fist.

But eventually the entire market craters on a huge wave of selling.

Bearish action for sure.

They are trying to paint a "double bottom" on the Nikkei futures, with a slightly higher low....

Heh, wonder if it will really work?

Boilermaker's picture

Wow, you noticed that also?

Cleverbot's picture

No I think they are trying to steal our jobs also they like to hear what the mouse eat for food.

Michael's picture

The market wants an involuntary redistribution of wealth and numbers that reflect the wealth destruction, but the holders of that wealth and power are doing everything in their power to hold on to their ill gotten gains. It de-cloaks the players in this game so you can actually see the ones who are doing it.

A Man without Qualities's picture

What the lessons of Japan should be is if you burying a nation in government debt in order to support fake asset values, you are totally fucked when the brutal realities of life strike us without warning.

It reminds me of something I read about the Minoan civilization.  The original theory was that the society was utterly destroyed by the earthquake and tsunami, but archeologists found the damage to a lot of temples showed clear signs of being caused by humans (wood and religious icons cuts with blades, then burnt, suggesting they'd been attacked), so the theory became whether the citizens, who had maintained the religious elites, turned on them after the disaster when the realized they provided no benefit.  The expert wondered whether, post apocalypse, had demanded the same "offerings" from the impoverished farmers, who had simply snapped.

It is my belief that the way the elites share in suffering post any disaster is a key factor in whether the civilization survives.

Carl Spackler's picture

Not gonna end well unless somebody stops the Japanese housewives from driving the USD toward 70 yen.

whatsinaname's picture

You have to remember this -

In 1971 - Yen was 20ish versus the dollar and Nikkei was around 2000. Of course, the Jap int rates were pretty good too then. So we are a long long way from mean reversion on the Yen.

Vint Slugs's picture

What are you talking about?

1971 began w/ $-Yen at 380 and finished at 313.  It's currently about 80.

TomJoad's picture

Every time I see a scorched, twisted, and irradiated panel from a reactor exterior painted with those happy blue and white stylized digital clouds, it makes me want to fucking cry.



Jump! You Fuckers!

TomJoad's picture

I will explain, yet again, that the "Jump! You Fuckers!" is directed solely at Lord Blankfein and his ilk. If I was junked for some other reason; "piss off, Posty"

herewego...'s picture

I went to the doctor the other day,
I said 'it hurts when I do that'
he said 'well don't do it'
-Tommy Cooper

Change your sig for a week or two?

ss123's picture

The looks of #3, to me, seem like they should be able to find the spent fuel rods up the hill.

At lest some of those fuckers had to get blown sky high from the explosion.

Backspin's picture

Exactly.  From the diagrams we've seen, the spent fuel pool is at the top of the building, right?  The entire top half of that building is mangled.  It doesn't seem to me that there could be a collection of spent fuel rods sitting in a pool near the top of the building, when the top of the building isn't even there.

dark pools of soros's picture

they would of been better off tossing the spent rods into Mt Fuji

ss123's picture

Those were some big explosions too. There had to be some downward force.