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Guest Post: Obama Administration Knew About Deepwater Horizon 35,000 Feet Well Bore, Green-Lighted And Fast-Tracked Project

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Submitted by Wayne Madsen of www.OilPrice.com

Obama Administration Knew About Deepwater Horizon 35,000 Feet Well Bore
 
President Obama and Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu, and Defense Secretary Robert Gates were informed that BP would drill an unprecedented 35,000 feet well bore at the Macondo site off the coast of Louisiana. In September 2009, the Deepwater Horizon successfully sunk a well bore at a depth of 35,055 below sea level at the Tiber Prospect in the Keathley Canyon block 102 in the Gulf of Mexico, southeast of Houston.
 
During the September drilling operations, the Deepwater Horizon drill penetrated a massive undersea oil deposit but BP's priorities changed when the Macondo site in the Mississippi Canyon off the coast of Louisiana was found to contain some 3-4 billion barrels of oil in an underground cavern estimated to be about the size of Mount Everest. It was as a result of another 35,000 feet well bore sank by the Deepwater Horizon at the Macondo site that the catastrophic explosion occurred on April 20.
 
According to the Wayne Madsen Report (WMR) sources within the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the Pentagon and Interior and Energy Departments told the Obama Administration that the newly-discovered estimated 3-4 billion barrels of oil in the Gulf of Mexico would cover America's oil needs for up to eight months if there was a military attack on Iran that resulted in the bottling up of the Strait of Hormuz to oil tanker traffic, resulting in a cut-off of oil to the United States from the Persian Gulf.
 
Obama, Salazar, Chu, and Gates green-lighted the risky Macondo drilling operation from the outset, according to WMR's government sources.
 
WMR learned that BP was able to have several safety checks waved because of the high-level interest by the White House and Pentagon in tapping the Gulf of Mexico bonanza find in order to plan a military attack on Iran without having to be concerned about an oil and natural gas shortage from the Persian Gulf after an outbreak of hostilities with Iran.
 
BP still has an ongoing operation to drill down to 40,000 feet below sea level at the Liberty field off the north coast of Alaska.

Source: http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Obama-Administration-Knew-About-Deepwater-Horizon-35000-Feet-Well-Bore.html

By. Wayne Madsen for Oilprice.com who offer detailed analysis on Oil, alternative Energy, Commodities, Finance and Geopolitics. They also provide free Geopolitical intelligence to help investors gain a greater understanding of world events and the impact they have on certain regions and sectors. Visit: http://www.oilprice.com

 

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Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:03 | 427533 jkruffin
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Uh oh,  they just got caught with their hands in the cookie jar.  The greed has come back to haunt Obammy and his boys.  America,  it is time!!!!  We have to take this country back and form it back to a democracy.  Otherwise, we are all going to be suffering at the expense of these morons!  Rally date in DC anyone?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:07 | 427547 Turd Ferguson
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8/28

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:35 | 427630 Ragnarok
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The Liberty project is on a man made Island (pad) and from one location the will drill to 40,000 feet mostly horizontally several times at several different azimuths (think octopus).  Completely different type of well.  Parker Drilling will be operating the rig for BP.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 21:40 | 428298 illyia
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That is very interesting. It would appear you know much about this. Please continue to enlighten.

Thx.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 22:30 | 428354 Broken_Trades
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http://rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=79639

 

These are ERD -'Extended Reach Driling' wells.  They cover more vertical section than TVD ie they reach out very far horizontally.  This is absolutely nothing like the well in the gulf.

 

"The Liberty rig's ultra-extended-reach wells, guided by 3-D seismic imagery, will extend nearly two miles deep and as far as eight miles out, some with measured depths exceeding the current record of over seven and a half miles."

 

The reason the wells are so deep is because they are drilling from a LAND RIG to targets that are in the ocean.  And when I say "deep" I am talking about Measured Depth (ie the length of the well) not True Vertical Depth (ie the actual depth of the well)

 

... some 3-4 billion barrels of oil in an underground cavern estimated to be about the size of Mount Everest.

 

^^^  Seriously  WTF is this SH*T.  THere is no such thing as an underground cavern of oil.  This reporting is BS.

 

Please stop posting sensational bullcrap from Oilprice.com.  It's complete rubish.

thanks!

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 23:55 | 428501 Wernerempire
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Utter BS indeed.

One tiny well in the golf, even if it was to produce 100,000 bbl / day, does shiona for the energy thirst of the USA.

 

People, please become aware of the order of magnitude of daily oil consumption.

The US used 20,680,000 bbl/day in 2007, every day.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:21 | 427759 anynonmous
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President Obama and Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar, Secretary of Energy Steven Chu, and Defense Secretary Robert Gates were informed that BP would drill an unprecedented 35,000 feet well bore at the Macondo site off the coast of Louisiana. (however Tony Hayward, BP's CEO had no knowledge of this project)

 

 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:13 | 427566 Dr. Richard Head
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We are supposed to be a Republic and the Republic is supposed to be governed by its charter (US Consitution).  A democracy is a two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:16 | 427575 jkruffin
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Republic is fine with me,  we need to get some organization as citizens millions strong and let's put a stop to these crooks.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:24 | 427598 ZakuKommander
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So is a Republic two wolves getting sheep to decide which of the wolves gets the first bite?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:25 | 427603 cirrus
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NO.  Republic is the rule of established law and not the masses.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:51 | 427835 Big Al
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Good answer.  The problem is that the people who wind up "leading" the republic won't be any more competent or smarter than the "masses".  They will be rich kids who went to boarding schools and slept and partied their way through Harvard and/or Yale.

And the posters who prefer a "republic" will still be part of the disenfranchised masses. 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:56 | 427841 Ropingdown
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The reply is well-known: "Liberty is a well-armed sheep appealing the outcome." Franklin

 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 20:14 | 428148 fuu
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+1776

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 21:35 | 428290 russki standart
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Ropingdown,

Damn Straight!!

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 06:18 | 428636 Grappa
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A real working democracy is two wolves and a well armed sheep.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:37 | 427644 DosZap
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Dr.

+1000,

I would prefer Anarchy, over a Democracy(unless it were a Republican/Representative  form).Majority rule, is true tyranny(mob rule), if their is no representative form of Gv't.

Also, for those that MAY have missed it here......OBAMA has recieved/DID recieve more $$$$$ from BP than ANY other member of Congress, before even being elected.

Now ain't dat sumpin'?,Whoda' thunk?.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:40 | 427652 Ragnarok
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Of course and in return for that and being the "greenest" oil company BP would have access to the white house along the same level as GE.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:33 | 427626 Yes We Can. But...
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When the time comes, bring something hard to clang against the iron fence around the White House, so as to make selves heard loud and clear...

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:51 | 427681 SwapThis
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Amen....

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:55 | 427839 almost_have_a_name
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the 5'th of November

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 00:57 | 428528 caconhma
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After all, the Deepwater Horizon  disaster was a "God Blessing" for American people. The Nobel Peace laureate Obama (and his Zionist  puppeteers) a new war, this time  against Iran, was derailed. WOW.

All America needs is another Obama war. Shit, this man is extremely dangerous. He is worse than POS Bush.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:05 | 427538 bulbar
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WMR learned that BP was able to have several safety checks waved because of the high-level interest by the White House and Pentagon in tapping the Gulf of Mexico bonanza find in order to plan a military attack on Iran.....

 

Oh that's beautiful.  That's what you get when you apply minority quotas to the office of the president. 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:21 | 427586 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Lights!  Camera! (affirmative) ACTION!

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:40 | 427650 DosZap
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Seems ANWAR would have been a lot more simple....and we would not have this mess.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:43 | 427662 tmosley
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NEWSFLASH: McCain would have done the same thing, and said so.

Both parties are the same.  No need to resort to collectivist swipes.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 18:35 | 427944 bjennings
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Bravo.  I'm a little hesitant to join the rallying cry of taking back this country in that those doing the trying all too often tend to be the ones who simply want to put the other head of the two headed monster back in power.  I too want to take this country back but it has a little bit more to do with other things than simply being pissed that a black man is in office.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:08 | 427550 bada boom
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So does that mean the war is off?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:17 | 427576 IBelieveInMagic
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Rescheduled for a later date.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:39 | 427646 bada boom
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Yeah, right after the Iranians help stop the leak.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:34 | 427794 DocLogo
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Hypothetically, let's pretend that what happened was no accident but a controlled demo...could be some group (the military?) making sure an attack doesn't happen.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:11 | 427552 bob_dabolina
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Obama should look into suing himself. He sues everyone else. I don't see why he doesn't have his homeboy Eric Holder look into it.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 18:37 | 427950 bjennings
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I guess you object to fighting a judge that has been bought and paid for by the oil companies.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:10 | 427556 Mikebrah
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I predict this thread will get a lot of posts.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:13 | 427567 Sudden Debt
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can you also predict tomorrows weather?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:23 | 427591 Wynn
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tomorrow will be dreary, with a 50% chance of doom.

just like every day after, for the next twenty years or so

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:30 | 427614 Gully Foyle
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 Wynn

ANNIE]
The sun'll come out 
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar 
That tomorrow 
There'll be sun! 

Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow 
Clears away the cobwebs, 
And the sorrow 
'Til there's none! 

When I'm stuck with a day
That's gray, 
And lonely, 
I just stick out my chin 
And Grin, 
And Say, 
Oh! 

The sun'll come out
Tomorrow 
So ya gotta hang on 
'Til tomorrow 
Come what may 
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow! 
You're always
A day
A way! 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:11 | 427732 Wynn
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I was kidding there Gully, but thanks for posting that ridiculous song :-)

 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:52 | 427831 RichardENixon
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You're missing the fact that during the Great Depression there was still hope.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 18:32 | 427937 ozziindaus
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Yeh but what about the weather? Pretty bad i bet

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:43 | 427665 tmosley
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I can predict yesterday's weather.

I also have the amazing ability to bend a spoon using only my hand.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 03:06 | 428583 i.knoknot
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heh +++

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:10 | 427557 tony bonn
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more proof that obama is a stool pigeon for the oil interests and joseph goebel's grandson....

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:33 | 427628 Pegasus Muse
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he's definately a stool

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:03 | 427715 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1 very funny

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:41 | 427655 Dont Taze Me Bro
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Oil interest? Did you not read the post?

If this story turns out to be true, then it would be due to AIPAC -- i.e. accommodating their crazy and grandiose ambitions in the middle east.

 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 20:29 | 428172 cbaba
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+1

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:11 | 427559 Sudden Debt
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Is it me or is actually EVERY government in the WORLD corrupt? Oh yeah... AND BROKE! And did I mention corrupt already?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:28 | 427610 MayIMommaDogFac...
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It has been noted by some...You might enjoy Bill Hicks comments on this matter

 "I hope you know this -- I think you do -- all governments are lying cocksuckers."

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:16 | 427573 IBelieveInMagic
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Second dat!

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:22 | 427593 Hephasteus
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Hi facilitator IBelieveInMagic.

Fucker off.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:17 | 427578 Cursive
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First, I didn't junk you.  Second, please tell me who you think has the most credibility to report on these matters.  I really want to know your thoughts.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:42 | 427661 Jeff Lebowski
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First, I did junk Xpat's post, but I did it for you.  Then I junked yours, because I felt that you had made it necessary for me to junk it. 

And now, I will answer your question.

Huffington Post.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 20:36 | 428187 Jeff Lebowski
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Note to self:  Remember to indicate sarcasm, regardless of how obvious.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:22 | 427592 Hephasteus
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I'm so glad you are part of this zero hedge community as long as that part involves coming and telling us what is credible and not credible.

So you can just fucker off back to where you came from.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:04 | 427717 vs18
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What you don't seem to understand is that ZeroHedge is an expensive operation... Tyler and Co. have at minimum a Bloomberg and Reuters terminals, plus I assume your typical 6 screen day trader setup ..... THAT IS NOT CHEAP. On top of that, server space for a site like this that attracts thousands of people a day, that bandwidth is also not cheap.

As a result, Tyler and Co. have to, from time to time, post traffic-friendly articles like this one, giving them their much needed ad revenue to pay for all of the above. It's a necessary evil, these kinds of articles, for all the rest of the fantastic work the ZH staff do for us (for free too!).

 

You're talking about credibility? What about the business channels, who put up ridiculous informercials of scam artist real estate agents who can promise you the world, or Viagra ads at 2.30 in the afternoon?

 

You try running a website like this and then get back to us about credibility. Necessary evil, take it or leave it.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:15 | 427740 Augustus
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The only reason for continuing to present the obviously impossible BS is to try to manipulate the BP price down.  I really had not suspected that this web site would engage in that. 

Maybe it is simply a method of attracting the video gamers who just know that everything ends in a BOOM.  In that case the BS must be true and this monster well is going to swallow the entire GOM. 

If the well had been safely completed it would probably be about two years before it was delivering the oil anyway.

 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:23 | 427762 CEOoftheSOFA
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Xpat is correct.  This article is fiction.  No way this well was drilled to 35,000 ft.  It's obvious the person writing this article doesn't know anything about the oil patch.  Oil isn't located "In caverns the size of Mount Everest".  This is total crap.  You can't even estimate reserves until delineation wells are drilled.  And why would this oil, and not oil from another field be used in the event the Straits of Hormuz are blocked?  I just came from the Straits of Hormuz and if anyone blocks it , it will be US Navy ships bumping into each other.  ZH needs to be getting their oil articles from more responsible sources, including the crap that George Washington has been posting.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:43 | 427822 DocLogo
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CEO of the sofa or the Sofa King? Because you, sir, are Sofa King right!

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 19:10 | 428004 UGrev
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I can't verify the details of this article, however, MMS DID know about problems with the blowout preventer: 

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0617/Studies-suggest-MMS-knew-blowout-preventers-had-critical-flaws/(page)/3

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/bp_says_mms_never_enforced_blo.html

...and they did nothing. 

 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:32 | 427789 seventree
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This report is obviously bogus because it would take much longer to get a rig online and producing after the well was finished than it's likely to be before a conflict with Iran ignites.

Even shallow water wells take years to build and get up to full production. And no matter how big a deposit this is, it is hard to imagine building enough extraction capability to supply "America's oil needs for up to eight months." I'm no oil expert but that sounds like a pretty big project. 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:15 | 427570 Cursive
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BP still has an ongoing operation to drill down to 40,000 feet below sea level at the Liberty field off the north coast of Alaska.

I would love to see this permit along with the Horizon permits.  Won't hold my breath for the MSM to do some "work".

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:21 | 427590 Caviar Emptor
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I smell conspiracy. If one the Boyz runs it by the Prez, they could be drilling under China....the long way round. 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:19 | 427749 hangemhigh
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Cursive:

 i've posted here (ZH) a couple of times regarding the permit for the macondo well.  

the article,  that i read once when all of this started and have never been able to find again, said that the permit was for 18K feet and that the well had been drilled to 25K ft.

we are now told, by a source that may or may not be reliable, that the drill depth was actually 35K ft.

who knows where to find a copy of the original BP Macondo drilling permit???

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 22:41 | 428388 Cursive
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@hangemhigh

Thx.  Maybe the truth fairy will visit us one day.  We'll probably have ZZ Top lenght beards by then.....

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:15 | 427571 AR15AU
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So does this mean that the well was indeed sabotaged?

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:43 | 429149 carbonmutant
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Hmmm....

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:18 | 427581 Caviar Emptor
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Actually, when we said 35,00 feet? We meant 135, 000 feet. One of our junior engineers, you understand. We took away his parking space. Oh and there's lava mixed in with the oil.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:30 | 427612 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Skinny-finger error?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:16 | 427745 Spastica Rex
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stinky-finger

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:50 | 427678 Mad Max
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:)

As credible as the main story!

Oh, except that it's magma, not lava.  Dr. Evil will lecture you on the distinction.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:19 | 427583 jkruffin
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Wonder what Iran is going to say about this?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:30 | 427609 Hephasteus
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Take your time and do the drill right if it's going to be part of a larger plan?

Or I'm so glad you are also incompetent as it mitigates your destructive potential towards us.

Or How's that workin out for ya?

Gee I don't know there's so many soul crushing digs you could mine from this.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:37 | 427642 CD
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Nelson Muntz has the answer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX3UqY8KZpU

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:57 | 427703 DosZap
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jk,

Nuttin, they are too busy trying to start a War w/Izzy.

The little Nazi is sending a BLOCKADE BUSTER SHIP along w/ the Palestinian Convoy............yep, Ole' Ben Yamin, will sur like dat.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:20 | 427584 VogonPoet
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its not that i dont doubt it, but there's absolutely nothing sourced in this. the requirement to post such a story really should be that its backed by more than toothpaste.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:23 | 427597 jkruffin
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When has Tyler and his crew been wrong??  I haven't seen them wrong yet since I have been a member.  I think they are more credible than the AP or any other government source.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:40 | 427651 CD
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More credible: yes. Always right: no. Don't drink ANY Kool-Aid, no matter the flavor. Getting to the truth sometimes means exploring the outlandish, the ill-founded, the explicitly false and the subtly subversive lies as well. It's presented as part of the intellectual smorgasbord, partly so that reasoned argument can be made against it.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:45 | 427671 tip e. canoe
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amen

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:41 | 427654 chumbawamba
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Do not pray to idols and false prophets.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:46 | 427669 tip e. canoe
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and amen

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:01 | 427709 MsCreant
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Look at CD and Chumba's time posts 14:40, 14:41. Great minds do think alike. And ZH does not want Sycophants, it's like incest, bad for the idea pool. 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:30 | 427778 Hephasteus
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What is so strange about this story is if you look at how it fits with other things. Haliburton and goldman sachs both junked this well wtih shorts and buying up shares in the corexit. So if this was a working plan. It's like a double reverse screw over to increase tensions. OR this plan came out to foreign sources and well got intentionally popped to cover up the plan which makes more sense to me. Mitigating losses is something goldman and haliburton would try to do when scrapping a plan such as this.

Or as people have noted. People in power are just doing stuff right and left to make such a mass of confusion as a way to cover up doing what they wanted to do in the first place in an untraceable way and trying to pass it off as a reasonable reaction to circumstances.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:54 | 427694 SwapThis
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spot on as usual chumba

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:23 | 427760 hangemhigh
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chumba:

do not pray to american idols and false profits.

you are chumbawamba and i'm knot..........

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 22:51 | 428412 thesapein
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It's standard Wayne Madison fair. He tends to rely on his secret sources a lot, so it comes down to whether you believe the reporter, I guess. I listen to Wayne, but I don't always believe what he believes.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:23 | 427595 aaronb17
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So the story is that "[the] Obama [administration] knew" about the Deepwater Horizon well bore? 

Good, I'm glad he (or his administration) knew about the well bore.   I'd be really disturbed if a five-mile-deep oil well blew up and it turned out the current administration DIDN'T know about this well.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:53 | 427688 JLee2027
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So you don't see the problem of Obama yelling "Bad BP", when Obama was the one who said "Do it"?

Got it.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 19:20 | 428019 chistletoe
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I was discussing the situation on the bottom with someone

outside the oil industry whose profession is knowing what is there ...

he numbers the well-heads in the water at roughly 10,000 ...

and said, bluntly, "There isn't ANYONE who knows everything that's there ..."

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:23 | 427596 Mad Max
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This smells highly of tinfoil hat infowars type fiction.

Whatever the amount of oil down there, it is astronomically unlikely that one or a handful of wells could create a production rate sufficient to offset all our imports from the Persian Gulf.

Further, hardly any real oil formations are "caverns the size of Mt. Everest" or frankly caverns even the size of a small hill.  The overwhelming majority of oil formations are permeable solid rock.

I call fiction on this one.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:57 | 427702 tmosley
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You mean the land wells that haven't been exhausted?  I'm sure there were formations like that on land until they were tapped out.  This well was in about the most inaccessible place in US waters.  It would be understandable if there was an untapped mother lode there.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 23:05 | 428431 Mad Max
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I'm sure there were formations like that on land until they were tapped out.

You're sure, are you?  Are you a geologist?  Do you know anything about petroleum geology?  Please name some examples of such formations.

It's exceedingly rare for there to be any caverns deep in the earth - they tend to fill up with rock layers pushing down on them.

All major oil reservoirs and fields are permeable rock, not caverns.  Ghawar, the king of supergiant fields, is permeable rock.

A well that produces 100,000 barrels/day is an absolutely terrifically productive oil well, but it wouldn't scratch the surface of replacing our imports from the Persian Gulf.  It's like saying uncle bob has a couple acres of corn and can feed our whole army after the midwest gets wiped out.

The whole story suggests that it was authored by someone who doesn't know the science or facts well enough to come up with a convincing fake.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:02 | 427713 Augustus
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Your assessment is correct.  It is absolute fiction.

My unnamed sources at the Pentagon and the CIA have confirmed this is bogus.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:05 | 427720 MsCreant
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I do not know all there is to know about these things, but if we have strategic reserves and we get into a wartime posture (conserving and what not) it may be possible to bring that and other wells on line, in time, to offset our oil requirements. I don't buy anything any more, but I am not willing to throw it out.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 23:06 | 428434 Mad Max
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Total recoverable oil is one thing, daily production rates are quite another.

This would be a wonderful strategic field if we had to replace 1% (est) of Persian Gulf oil for the next 10-15 years.  Replacing 100% for 6 months, not so much.

Wed, 06/23/2010 - 12:13 | 429041 hedgeless_horseman
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Sadly, too few understand this.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:25 | 427601 buzzsaw99
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That would be all well and good if BP had even the slightest clue wtf they are doing.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:28 | 427607 SilverIsKing
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So they were drilling in the interest of national security?

Riiiiiight!

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:33 | 427615 mynhair
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Obama lies, people die!

Where's the Robo post & pics?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:31 | 427618 Cigarette Smoki...
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What happens when a huge methane bubble pops up from the depths and causes a tsunami? How will the gulf states and everyone feel about our great government then?

http://www.shteconomy.com/2010/06/22/tsunamis-from-the-gulf-oil-well-is-this-for-real/

Why is no one talking about this part of the oil well? Is it just too scary to contemplate?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:33 | 427629 mynhair
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The well is gonna fart?  Huh?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:02 | 427712 DosZap
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myhair,

IF it does, bet money, the Dems will try and Tax it for excessive excretion..........they have monitors up every cows ass in the USA.

Ka Ching!

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:32 | 427787 Canucklehead
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The well is going to fart through an 8 inch hole?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:36 | 427801 Augustus
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Simple explanation:

It is not a part of the oil well.

Methane is lighter than air, BTW.  Not heavier like CO2.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 19:25 | 428029 chistletoe
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at that temperature and pressure,

methane forms solid crystalline structures called methyl hydrates.

that's why the first effort to kill the leak failed.  the crystals jammed the apparatus.

the ocean bottom is covered with them, worldwide.  massive amounts.

the worst nightmare of the global warming fanatics is that the oceans warm up enough

for the methane to be released ...

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 20:25 | 428166 cossack55
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research Prof. Ryskin and end of the dinos via mehane explosion.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:32 | 427620 CD
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Kind of O/T, but here is an interesting piece that tries to get at the selectivity of what gets reported and what does not, and what the REAL priorities of some actors in the play are:


Unfortunately, few elected officials have the background necessary to understand deep-sea oil exploration and drilling.

And granted, initially in stories covering major disasters, speculation is always rife. But 60 continuous days of speculation, if not outright evasion, without any resolution or honest answers to the questions being asked, simply frustrates and angers the public. Worse, it encourages the irrational belief that this disaster can be quickly or magically resolved.

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/jun2010/bw20100622_903604.htm

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:35 | 427621 Jake Lamotta
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How do you know Obammy was at his church service on sunday? 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 20:06 | 428133 RockyRacoon
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I see your message got modified.  Good move.  My hat is off to you.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:36 | 427638 The Franchise
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So Obama gave the "Deeper, Harder, Faster" order?!

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:36 | 427639 snakehead
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He named his source. However, his source is Wayne Madsen.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:37 | 427643 RobD
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I want to know how so many dinosaurs got so far underground. Is this where the trimmers worms great great grandfathers came from?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:05 | 427719 anony
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This is 'abiotic oil'. 

It comes from the rotting words, sentences, white papers and briefs of all the politicians, Jewish and WASP banksters, lawyers, POTUSes, Secretaries of State and Oprah talk show hosts that have ever been spoken. And it is an eternal supply no peak here.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 19:53 | 428095 Papasmurf
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They were democrats following their leader.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 19:56 | 428103 michael63636
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It was from F = G * M1 * M2/ R12^2.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:39 | 427648 chumbawamba
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Stupid is as stupid does, mother fuckers!

Reap what you sow.  Or in other words: EAT SHIT AND DIE.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:39 | 427649 Dan Duncan
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A lame post.

   "...in tapping the Gulf of Mexico bonanza find in order to plan a military attack on Iran."

C'mon, back it up...with something.  This is a bomb-shell of an assertion...backed up by nothing other than the fact that people want to believe it. 

WMR "learned" of this information?  From whom?

I'm not saying it's beyond the realm of possibility.  But to take shit like this at face value, with I'm nothing more than "WMR learned" is moronic. 

Is George Washington now posing as Tyler Durden?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:44 | 427666 chumbawamba
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Or perhaps this sort of disinformation is why Zero Hedge exists in the first place?

Things that make you go, "Hmmmmmmmm..."

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 18:05 | 427867 BumpSkool
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exactly! Like the film of the pentagon plane ... its inconclusive... its simply made to make everyone go "It is a plane.. it isn't ... it could be.. whaddaya think.. well sort of... but maybe not..." With all the hundreds of cameras around, look at the one they decided to show... one that is inconclusive and has everyone hung up ... I wonder why..

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:54 | 427684 cougar_w
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If I were mounting a huge infowar at the end of the world, I'd lead with stuff like this. You know, break peoples' spirits. Confuse them. Mix in enough weird lies and strange half-truths so that if the actual truth ever won out, nobody would recognize it. Without the truth the mob won't know who to hang. They'll hang a bunch of people anyway -- you bet -- but if they get the right ones it will be an accident. Then to be really safe I'd be handing out rope to the mob in the bargain to look good, maybe charging a small fee. You know, for old time's sake. Profit is profit, wherever you find it.

If I was in that business, it's what I would do. But I'm not. Really.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:30 | 427780 hangemhigh
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great post, coug..............

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:41 | 427816 Dan Duncan
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Everything cougar_w says is a lie!

And I'd be lying if I said I'm not lying.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:02 | 427714 SwapThis
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Much of the reporting from the Bilderburg Conference just concluded this year focused on their greenlighting Iran operations. We have an additional carrier group on the way there and at least 2 more there already.  It may be just sabor rattling, but these idiots want to pass Cap & Trade, get there Carbon Taxes rolling in and squeeze the US taxpayer as dry as a bug on a West Texas windshield.  At this point it is not clear to me where to draw the line of 'too far fetched' as far as the Obama Administration is concerned.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:06 | 427721 Augustus
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WMR is a totally unreliable source of anything but fiction.  The well was never intended to be much deeper than it is now.  Look at the pipe program.

Geo Wash is still trying to develop a scare story about the Sigsby Salt.  He claims expert knowledge on that GOM salt formation.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:41 | 427656 Trundle
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Let' see.

We go into Iraq to find weapons of mass destruction that don't exist as Iraq was sold obliquely as a participant in the 911 falseflag (Cheney/Rumsfeld misdirection).

We drill in the Gulf in order to avoid the consequences to our oil supply of an attack by Iraq which closes the Gulf of Hormuz.

The Gulf of Mexico well blows out causing an environmental clusterfuck spewing at last estimate at least 100,000 barrels of oil a day into the gulf of Mexico causing an ecological disaster and destroying a seafood industry and vacation industry doing hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue per year. 

There must be a math genius in here somewhere because who else could create CDSs and this clusterfuck?

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:44 | 427663 DeweyLeon
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Yes, we must have sourcing for this story so that we can attack them and expose personal foibles of the source so as to erode thier credibility and get them fired...err, I mean better believe what we are reading.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:43 | 427664 plocequ1
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Why must we disturb the Sheeple with feble news like this. Apple OS 4 is out. Right now their biggest worry is OS 4 issues. We are done. Just do what you gotta do. Good Luck and God be with you. Listen to Alex Jones

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:47 | 427672 tip e. canoe
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oops

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:49 | 427673 Anarchist
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If we were to attack Iran, we would also green light the attack on Venezuela. It has been in the works for years. The Venezuelan politicos and ex-Comandantes living in Miami, on the US taxpayers dime, assure the Pentagon it will be a cakewalk and the people will greet us with sweets and flowers.

Funny how the US supported Iraqi "dissidents" in the US from 1991 to 2003. They were the clowns crawling all over Saddams statue hitting it with shoes. 

Cue the cameras for a "spontaneous" outbreak of democracy being messy.  

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 18:17 | 427905 Cognitive Dissonance
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Oh good. Four wars at a time. No problem. In my sleep.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 21:23 | 428276 Hephasteus
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In for a penny in for a pound. LOL

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:49 | 427677 jkruffin
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Is Obammy purposely trying to set off the American people where they revolt so he can use his martial law enactment he signed as soon as he took office?  Hmmm....... I don't think he would really want that, he seems smarter than that to me, but I could be wrong.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:50 | 427680 michael63636
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PETER SUTHERLAND Peter Sutherland has served as chairman of BP plc, chairman of Goldman Sachs International, and special representative of the United Nations ...
www.trilateral.org/membship/bios/ps.htm - Cached - Similar

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:52 | 427685 Eric Cartman
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Why are all of you so easily convinced by this allegation? For all we know it's complete bullshit. Is it because it sounds good and makes the government look bad? Seriously, why is everyone so taken in by this?

I'd personally like to see actual documented evidence. Otherwise this is nonsense. 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:01 | 427711 anony
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Who requires proof of everything can be certain of only one thing: self-destruction.

Make the government look bad??????????

Jesus H. Christ, man.  This government (and all the others) looks like a 50 year old Bed-Stuy hooker on a cold, dark and stormy night in November.

 

 

 

 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:05 | 427718 SwapThis
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exactly right! 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 18:22 | 427914 Eric Cartman
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lol okay... I guess I'll just believe it since it was posted here. Thanks for your ignorant, I mean intelligent reply. 

Here I'm gonna post some serious facts...

1. The missing S.K Subs aren't really missing, we blew them up.

2. We have special forces in Iran right now secretly planning our attack.

3. China only said they would no longer peg their currency to the dollar because we threatened them with full out war. 

4. wikileaks is really just a website created by the government to make people confused.

5. Google is developing software that will allow the government to bomb Switzerland.

I can go on if you'd like. 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 18:28 | 427923 cougar_w
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O RLY?

I must need more tinfoil; those all looked pretty plausible to me on a first pass.

Except maybe for #1, cuz I have it on excellent authority that we blew up a bunch of N.K. subs instead.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 21:48 | 428304 CD
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None of the above would surprise me that much either; at least I see no reason to rule them out completely. It's becoming increasingly difficult to rule out the impossible, Watson...

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:09 | 427728 Trundle
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It could be bullshit.  But we've seen time and time again that the level of criminality, corruption and incompetence is world class.

Perhaps also because it paints those charged with responsibility as the corrupt doofuses they are.

When in doubt, go with the corrupt doofus meme

 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:55 | 427696 michael63636
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutherland

NOTE: CEO BP, CEO GS, FINANCIAL ADVISOR TO TE POPE:

 

Peter Sutherland From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Peter Sutherland Director-General of the World Trade Organization In office
1 July 1993 – 1 May 1995 Preceded by Arthur Dunkel as Director-General of the GATT Succeeded by Renato Ruggiero Born 25 April 1946 (1946-04-25) (age 64) Nationality Irish

Peter Denis Sutherland, Honorary KCMG (born 25 April 1946) is an international businessman and former Attorney General of Ireland, associated with the Fine Gael party (part of the Christian Democrat bloc). He is a barrister by profession, and is also Senior Counsel at the Irish Bar. He is also known for serving in a variety of business and political roles.

Son of the late William "Billy" Sutherland, an insurance broker, Peter Sutherland was educated at Gonzaga College, a Jesuit day school in Dublin and then studied law at University College Dublin. He played prop forward for the UCD rugby team and was club captain, a role he later filled at Landsdowne Football Club, before retiring from the sport in his mid-20s. He remains an active member of Lansdowne F.C.

After UCD, he studied at the King's Inns in Dublin and was called to the Bar in 1969 and practiced until 1981 when, aged 34, he was the youngest Attorney General of Ireland. He served under two Governments led by Garret FitzGerald. He also advised the FitzGerald government on the Eighth Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland which introduced a constitutional ban on abortion, though Sutherland opposed the wording on grounds that it was ambiguous and unclear.

He was appointed to the European Commission in 1985 and had responsibility for competition policy and, later, also for education. He has said that he was especially pleased to have helped to establish the ERASMUS programme (European Regional Action Scheme for Mobility of University Students) that allows European University students to study in other member states.

He was the youngest ever European Commissioner and served in the first Delors Commission, where he played a crucial role in opening up competition across Europe, particularly the airline, telecoms, and energy sectors. Subsequently he was Director General of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (now the World Trade Organisation). Later Mickey Kantor, the US Trade Minister, credited him with being the father of globalization and said that without him there would have been no WTO. [citation needed] The Uruguay round of global trade talks, concluded in 1994 with Sutherland as chair of GATT, produced the biggest trade agreement in history and established the World Trade Organisation.

He is non-executive Chairman of Goldman Sachs International (a registered UK broker-dealer, a subsidiary of Goldman Sachs). He was previously non-executive chairman of BP and was a director of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group until he was asked to leave the board when it had to be taken over by the UK government to avoid bankruptcy. He also formerly served on the board of ABB.

He is on the steering committee of the Bilderberg Group [1], a chairman of the Trilateral Commission[2] and vice chairman of the European Round Table of Industrialists.[3]

He is a member of the Comite d'Honneur of the Institute of European Affairs, and an Honorary President of the European Movement Ireland.[4]


Peter Sutherland (left) speaking with Garret FitzGerald (centre) and Will Hutton (right), at the Institute of European Affairs in Dublin in 2006.

He was appointed as a member of the Hong Kong Chief Executive's Council of International Advisers in the years of 1998–2005.[5]

He is President of the Federal Trust for Education and Research, a British think tank. He is Chairman of The Ireland Fund of Great Britain, part of The Ireland Funds.[6] He is a member of the advisory council of Business for New Europe, a British pro-European think-tank.[7]

In 2005, he was appointed as Goodwill Ambassador for the United Nations Industrial Development Organization.[8] In Spring 2006 he was appointed Chair of London School of Economics Council commencing in 2008.[9]

Peter Sutherland also serves on the International Advisory Board of IESE,[10] the eminent graduate business school of the prestigious Spanish university, the University of Navarra.

In January 2006, he was appointed by United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan as his Special Representative for Migration. In this position, he was responsible for promoting the establishment of a Global Forum on Migration and Development, a state-led effort open to all UN members that is meant to help governments better understand how migration can benefit their development goals. The Global Forum was acclaimed by UN Member States at the UN High-Level Dialogue on International Migration and Development, in September 2006, and will be launched in Brussels in July 2007.

On 5 December 2006, he was appointed as Consultor of the Extraordinary Section of the Administration of the Patrimony of the Apostolic See (a financial adviser to the Vatican).[11]

On 22 January 2010 he said while in Dublin that Ireland should have fewer universities.[12][13][14]

 

 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 20:27 | 428170 desgust
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One of the biggest elitist & globalist pig.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 22:02 | 428320 russki standart
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Agreed, just another elitist scum

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 21:52 | 428302 illyia
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Oh boy... I had already read this... but it still makes me ill...

It does lead me to ask: "How's that elitist thing working out for you Bilderbastards, anyway?... Are we there yet?"

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 16:56 | 427699 lins216
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This is the same Wayne Madeson that wrote a true story on Obama and Rahm's gay adventures in Chicago?

I'm no Obama fan, but posting this on zero...I hope this is satire.

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:51 | 427833 Gully Foyle
Tue, 06/22/2010 - 21:41 | 428299 Cui Bono
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wait, I can barely comprehend this.... So Owebama is really Jackie Treehorn? CB

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:07 | 427723 pitz
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A single underwater oilfield replacing all of the production that flows through the Straight of Hornuz?  Impossible. 

Tue, 06/22/2010 - 17:19 | 427754 Augustus
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How dare you question the sources of WMR.  If it is posted here, you can be sure that Geo Wash and many others have absolutely verified the sources.

The whole article is absolute laughable BS.   It would not be necessary to even discuss it, except that so many who post here are completely clueless about any science beyond eighth grade biology.

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