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Guest Post: Option Bets On $100 Oil By Year-End Jump 10%

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Submitted by John Bougearel of Structural Logic

Earlier Marla shared her views on peculiar option action and what the implication of this may be for the oil (and geopolitical) complex. We present some thoughts out of John Bougearel that takes a look at the argument from a more technical perspective.

 




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Fri, 10/16/2009 - 22:15 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 10/17/2009 - 12:12 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 10/16/2009 - 23:06 | Link to Comment MountainHawk
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Bought a leap call on BP a few months back which has been appreciating nicely lately...

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 01:08 | Link to Comment Michael
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OT

Why can't we give homeowners in foreclosure a simultaneous closing option where, on the day they get foreclosed, they get the first right to repurchase the house back at current appraised value with a new mortgage, at perhaps 10% down?

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 01:26 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 10/17/2009 - 11:16 | Link to Comment A tumor named Marla
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Because this is against every responsible lending policy. 

You want to take someone who has proven they can't or won't pay off a loan, give them special treatment in the form of first right to purchase, reward them with a better rate, and all based on the same property that was supposedly a security for the first loan?

How about giving that person a kick in the ass and let the rest of us who do pay our bills get that lowered rate?  Why would anyone in their right mind give another mortgage to a known defaulter?  Does ANYONE believe in fiscal responsibility and consequences anymore?

Here's an idea....how about I agree to buy your car, drive it around and enjoy it, but when I don't pay, you have to let me be the first to buy the car again and you have to cut me a better deal?  You wouldn't do this with your money, so why should the rest of us (in the form of governmental intervention in the loan process) be forced to do the same with deadbeats and their houses?

No thanks -- I'm a fan of letting business that overextend go Out of Business, and of letting loan defaulters sit in a shitty apartment for awhile until they learn where their financial over-leveraged point is and stay the hell away from it.  It's called Fiscal Responsibility, and your idea is the opposite of responsibility.

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 11:53 | Link to Comment Michael
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In normal times I would agree with you 100%. We are not living in normal times. I give 1st fault to the banks for lending to that craziness. They should be the ones to eat the loss, not the tax payer. The banks should have known better, they are supposed to be the experts.

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 15:55 | Link to Comment Ghettomedic
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Look, it takes two to be stupid. Nobody rounded up prospective buyers and tortured their families until they signed. It was a whole lot of stupid. Blaming the banks for finding these morons to begin with is not the real issue.

The issue is that you can't fix stupid. There's a lot of crybaby reports on the TV about how the big bad mega bank was sneaky. Read the paperwork before you sign, and if its too complex to sign, don't. I am at a loss to see how the rest of the country needs to bail out morons at all. I thought we were a free market economy.

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 16:10 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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"responsible lending policy."

Today? In America? Are you f--king kidding me?

"You want to take someone who has proven they can't or won't pay off a loan, give them special treatment in the form of first right to purchase, reward them with a better rate"

That would perfectly describe the hapy situation the US Govt. and Wall Street (your true rulers BTW) find themselves in. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.


"I'm a fan of letting business that overextend go Out of Business"

Try telling THAT to the US Government. You certainly don't mean to have the USG go out of business now, do you? Because the USG DEFINES "overextended".

"Does ANYONE believe in fiscal responsibility and consequences anymore?"

Ummm...NO. So you are a moron if you do (today in the USA). Stop paying and quit whining. Don't let the banks rob you anymore. The entire currency system is a big giant Ponzi scheme fraud! 

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 01:03 | Link to Comment Don Smith
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What's the price of oil look like in gold or Euros?  Isn't a lot of this commodity movement based on the dollar's recent decline?  Late last year, when the skids were greased and everyone was sitting in the handbasket waiting for the final tip into hell, the dollar surged in value, and oil dropped into the 40s.  Now, the dollar has been hammered and oil's up.  So, how much of the price action is demand- or supply-driven, and how much of it is simply currency driven?

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 01:27 | Link to Comment Village Idiot
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testing...

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 05:52 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Sat, 10/17/2009 - 08:09 | Link to Comment FreddyInBangkok
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WTIC currency mix http://tiny.cc/X3zoA

looks like US/UK screwed. Europe & Anglo commodity currencies not so bad. in the 1930s US oil imports dropped to 1/4 previous figures, this time 3 billion Asians guzzling. see Martin Armstrong  "The Greatest Bullmarket in History" 17 vols, online.

$WTIC 38.2% retrace http://yfrog.com/6r1377p

INDU 50% retrace, 9999

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 10:31 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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Here we go again!

The $70 oil trade has been the benchmark for the dollar but that is now is jeopardy. Nymex crude closed over $78 yesterday, there is really no limit on the upside, if the price breaks $80, IMO. It would be a deleveraging event, accepted by the markets as such. Funds would seek to convert from 'money- like' liquidity to cash; oil futures being a way to launder this liquidity.

There is a lot of liquidity out there ...

The short version of what happens next can be found over @ James Hamilton's website.

http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2009/04/oil_shocks_and_1.html

Personally, $70 a barrel is an economy killer, but the higher levels drive a stake through its heart.

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 11:37 | Link to Comment calgaryschmooze
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$70?  I was thinking the $40 to $50 range is more like what the "real" US economy is going to need in order to recover.

 

How long until Obama starts "leaking" a quarter-million barrels per unit of time from the SPR in an attempt to destroy the marginal price per bbl? (The specific unit of time is left as an exercise to the reader.)

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 12:23 | Link to Comment ozziindaus
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Washington is ever closer to being raided by the discouraged unemployed, the newely unemployed, the part time employed and the disenchanted employed. The adminstration cannot afford to allow oil prices to sky rocket. This frog knows the temperature is rising.

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 15:57 | Link to Comment Ghettomedic
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Raided? These people are too busy cashing their 99 weeks of unemployment and eating the fat of social programs. They know not to bite the hand that feeds them.

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 16:37 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Sat, 10/17/2009 - 18:43 | Link to Comment Ben_the_Bald
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Interesting. How's the demand for crude from the refineries doing these days? Anyone?

Sat, 10/17/2009 - 19:18 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Tue, 10/20/2009 - 05:10 | Link to Comment Cerulean
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FT today

Options-driven rally likely if oil hits $80

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a3fd8eee-bcee-11de-a7ec-00144feab49a.html

And I reiterate what I said in a previous comment: This is the action of one guy with limitless pocket( and no it's not the Fed or GS). It's always been his strategy: buy lots of OTM options and then push the cash or futures

 

Wed, 10/21/2009 - 19:41 | Link to Comment Broken_Trades
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8317919.stm

 looks like they are going to have a war with Iran after all.

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