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Wed, 07/06/2011 - 11:15 | 1429728 Yen Cross
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 Even the Unions are Effin them selves!

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 11:33 | 1429805 eureka
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So does that mean US empire will prevail?

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 19:07 | 1431166 Buck Johnson
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Totally to late.  The politicians know this already, but they can't go out there and say it.  If they went out today and said that we will have to cut Medicare and Medicade by 50% and SS will be cut by the same and taxes raised across the board (and this wouldn't help anyway), there would be riots in the streets.  Because most people have maybe maybe 10,000 in savings (probably a few thousands) at retirement and what they can get from SS and Medicare/Medicade.  They are in poverty from the get go, and know these politicians are telling them that they will be even more in poverty from the cuts and tax increases (which will make things more expensive).  I've said this more than once over the few years of this fiasco, and that is we have kicked this can down the road so much that finally we see the end of it and are trying to kick the can via small small kicks. 

When the US empire finally leaves the international stage, it will leave it showing it's Schizophrenia.  Because our populace and our people will be delusional to what they have been told and believed for so long.  We will end up a splintered third world nation, and we be a nation that will be broken into 5 to 6 parts that will be seperate entities (essentially countries) themselves.  I read Plato's republic and he was right about what has to be done in order for a republic to flourish, and we did the opposite.

http://faculty.frostburg.edu/phil/forum/PlatoRep.htm

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:27 | 1430243 roadlust
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We don't have "scarce resources," we have vast misallocation of them.

Until the resources are distributed equitably and sanely, there will be a faux "crisis."  But there is always a "crisis" before the revolution.

Creating tax policies and laws that encourage a middle class again would be a start.  Progressive Taxation for instance. 

Of course we could always just cancel all US Dollars, private property deeds, laws that protect money instead of democracy, etc. and start over.  Why would "smart people" fear that???

 

 

 

 

 

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 14:26 | 1430449 Fukushima Sam
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I say we crash this bitch, get some creative destruction going on, and see what kind of phoenix will rise from the ashes.

I recently read "The Fourth Turning" and all this strife seems inevitable once you see it from a historical cycle point of view.  Does Gen X really want to maintain the empire built by their parents and grandparents?  Is a generation alienated and underprotected by its parents then going to take care of them when they need it?  Even if they wanted to, will they be able to?

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 15:39 | 1430695 eureka
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To Roadlust, RE: "Creating tax policies and laws that encourage a middl class again would be a start" - I concur - and in that light Charles Hughes Smith does NOT provide the solution:

The top 1% could certainly stand to pay more than 17%, but the problem there is that capital is mobile now and anyone paying taxes on their global income in, say, Switzerland, cannot be made to pay taxes elsewhere on that same income. (Income and corporate taxes are low in Switzerland compared to the U.S. and Europe.)

We can rail against this reality, but capital will flow to the highest returns and lowest tax rates. We should impose the same tax rate on non-labor as we do on labor, and that would raise a a few hundred billion more a year.

HERE IS WHERE CHS IS DEAD WRONG

1) if the rich want ANY access to any of OUR national markets, OF COURSE we can make them pay - IF WE WANT TO. We can tax imports, live within our means and work toward true energy and manufacturing independence. If we want to!

2) taxing non-labor the same as labor income in a world of out-sourcing and robotization is anachronistic - i.e. plainout a non-solution, i.e. stupid. OBVIOUSLY, one stimulates small and local businesses and employment by encentivizing IT - and not globalist mega corporations.

CHS's observations are fair - his consclusions and recommendations do not stand up, but rather are non-sensical and or globa-capital-collectivist troll'ish.

DO NOT EQUATE SOCIAL PROGRAMS WITH IMPIRIAL MILITARY AND SECURITY PROGRAMS - IF YOU WANT TO BE CONSIDERED A SOBER OBSERVER AND COMMENTATOR.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 11:43 | 1429851 trav7777
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the nation is rotten from top to bottom.

From the deadbeat homeowners to the CEO of the banks.  From the union rank-and-file up to their chiefs.  Crooked, corrupt, all on the take.  Ghettofied society.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:50 | 1430130 andybev01
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Somewhere we them folks got the idea that a strong sense of community was akin to collectivism and shunned all sense of an orderly society.

Within 2 generations (the greatest and their spawn, boomers) we dis-integrated into what we have today; I've got mine so f*ck you.

I gleefully look forward to the coming-soon-to-a-lawyers-office-near-you, battles over family trusts and which third-tier nursing home Ma & Pa are going to.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:32 | 1430262 Spastica Rex
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God bless the child and whatnot.

We spent the last third of a century nurturing consumption and narcisissm. We built giant houses and flitted about the world and drove land barges to and fro. We worshipped clebrities and scandal. We could have done something else, but we didn't. It's all about choice; none of the problems we have were inevitable.

The 400 or so year experiment of a world without kings is drawing to a close.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:57 | 1430350 wisefool
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+1. The current idocracy winds down within 10 years or so. Then, as you mentioned, the return of the "peerage." But it aint gonna be like what the sheep saw at the recent royal wedding.

Based on todays headlines, think more like Dune, with Casey Anthony types as bene gesserit. And former steriod abuser athletes as the barons. 

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 18:13 | 1431049 Spastica Rex
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One of the favorite books of my youth, brought to life.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:51 | 1430134 silvertrain
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Bullseye hit.. A large portion of that is the loss of morals..People dont give a fuck..

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 14:17 | 1430429 Oh regional Indian
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indeed. The death of empathy precluded this fall.

ORi

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/the-death-of-empathy/

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:20 | 1430217 chumbawamba
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And then there are the blog commentators.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:57 | 1430351 andybev01
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*PSST: where's your signature?*

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 14:20 | 1430419 eureka
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RE: "...all on the take" - exactly, and especially the elite and its military & security complex.

"Government transfers now account for 22% of household income, an unprecedented dependence on Central State checks and benefits" - DOES THAT INCLUDE WAGES AND EQUIPMENT PAYMENTS FOR THE MILITARY & SECURITY COMPLEX's COMPLETELY USELESS EXISTENCE? 

80% of US citizens have zero net worth - so what assets do they have to protect? NONE!

THE ONLY REAL TAX - IS THE ONE YOU PAY WITH YOUR LABOR.

FUCK THE RICH, FUCK THE MILITARY & SECURITY COMPLEX, AND FUCK THE EMPIRE - I.E. THE ELITE THEY ALL SERVE - THEY, ARE THE VAMPIRES, THE "ENTITLEMENT" RECEPIENTS.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 11:22 | 1429749 carbonmutant
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What we have is a nation that wants to ignore the news.

We voted for change it's not our fault...

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 11:36 | 1429821 Xibalba
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And...green. 

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:25 | 1430031 lynnybee
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  " We voted for change it's not our fault..."

correct.  we were lied to & scammed & stolen from.    but, we can claim stupidity.    i know that i was extremely dumb until i started studying & doing my internet research (thank you,ZEROHEDGE) .   ....... I'm not dumb anymore; but, 99% of the citizenry is still uneducated & ill-informed.

 

 

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:59 | 1430363 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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That's the point that's missed. That SS trust money was "reallocated" (plundered) in the 70s. No one is really acknowledging that, nor has anyone been charged with any crime. We've also held interest rates artificially low, which has helped contribute to that deficiency as well.

Now of course, we will blame the those present and future SS claimants who've been told that the $$s there, no worries. Now that the time has come to make a claim, these people, who had money deducted from all their paychecks, are considered lazy criminals. Of course, once someone quits their job, they are usually destined for poverty, which necessitates the monthly SS check. One can say "well you shouldn't retire", but some folks get forced out of their jobs, have physical breakdowns, etc that come into play.

I'm sure the (unspoken) solution will be that lots of folks will have to die to save on medical/benefits costs. How many of the 75 million boomers will have to die to "rebalance" the books? Wanna bet they could all be dead and we'd still be fucked?

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 11:21 | 1429751 High Plains Drifter
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http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F3YugoSKS&name=Yugoslavian+S...

may i suggest that you all, purchase things like this. you will need them soon. such things as this are the poor man's assault rifle complete with pig sticker, so that when you get near them you can give them something to remember you buy(at least for a few minutes) , up close and personal, which is the only way to do it when you are dealing with traitors. George Washington, would agree with this message , I bet........

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 11:52 | 1429903 MassDecep
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and to think, i just aquired an fn scar! Looks like a pretty nice sticker, 7.62 x 39 no less. Capacity of mags needs to exceed 30! ahhh, the scar is too sweet though.....

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:07 | 1430168 High Plains Drifter
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they make adapters for that problem.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:11 | 1430170 Pegasus Muse
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My preference:  http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProductDetails/sig556-classic-swat.aspx 

The Trijicon ACOG should ship this week.  

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:17 | 1430208 High Plains Drifter
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very nice. expensive, but very nice.  i want one of those too.  right now, i have my eye on a us optics sn3 for long ranges. i have to go get my college degree so i can use it effectively.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 14:10 | 1430404 Jason_1sandal
Wed, 07/06/2011 - 11:59 | 1429933 Yen Cross
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 I have my " High velocity" tools HPD. The liberal junksters  are a hoot!

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:09 | 1430174 High Plains Drifter
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cool.  i know many of you do.  i know many of you think that my mind is not in a good place. well perhaps you are right. many of you perhaps think that my mind is one evil thoughts about the government.  well perhaps you are right about that one too.

 

what else should an American think these days. It is time to deal with these issues one way or the other.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 14:37 | 1430470 eureka
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RE: "what else should an American think these days?"

There IS no "America", no "Americans" - only the mythical concepts these terms allude to.

There is only a corrupt, elite-run Federation, manipulating a mass of atomized, pseudo-individualized, self-absorbed gamblers/leverage-players and consumers.

"America" - i.e. the US Corporatist Federation - is demolishing all remnants of social cohesion and common, national identity/purpose, replacing it with individual self-absorption.

AMERICA IS DEAD. AMERICA IS A PHANTOM CHARACTER OF A VAIN MIND.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 15:16 | 1430643 Clark Bent
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Shhhh, that's "liberation" ya got there. Just quiet down and accept yer gay "marriage." After all, we need to be liberated from all these regressive institutions. 

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 21:49 | 1431492 RockyRacoon
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20 Not So Good Categories That The United States Leads The World In

   
The Economic Collapse
July 5, 2011

Is the United States “number one”?  Many Americans take deep pride in their nation and the truth is that the U.S. has a lot going for it.  The United States has the largest economy in the world.  The United States also has the most powerful military on the entire planet.  The United States has produced most of the greatest movies that the world has ever seen.  But the United States is also number one in a lot of categories that are not go great.  If we ever want to turn this country around, we need to be very honest with ourselves.  We need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and realize that it is not a good thing that we are number one in divorce, drug addiction, debt, obesity, car thefts, murders and total crimes.  We have become a slothful, greedy, decadent nation that is exhibiting signs of advanced decay.  Until we understand just how bad our problems really are, we won’t be able to come up with the solutions that we need.

A lot of people that write articles like this have a deep hatred for America.  But that is not the case with me.  I love the United States.  I love the American people.  America is like an aging, bloated rock star that has become addicted to a dozen different drugs.  America is a shadow of its former self and it desperately needs to wake up before it plunges into oblivion.

If you do not believe that America is in bad shape, just read the list below.  The following are 20 not so good categories that the United States leads the world in….

#1 The United States has the highest incarceration rate in the world and the largest total prison population on the entire globe.

#2 According to NationMaster.com, the United States has the highest percentage of obese people in the world.

#3 The United States has the highest divorce rate on the globe by a wide margin.

#4 The United States is tied with the U.K. for the most hours of television watched per person each week.

#5 The United States has the highest rate of illegal drug use on the entire planet.

#6 There are more car thefts in the United States each year than anywhere else in the world by far.

#7 There are more reported rapes in the United States each year than anywhere else in the world.

#8 There are more reported murders in the United States each year than anywhere else in the world.

#9 There are more total crimes in the United States each year than anywhere else in the world.

#10 The United States also has more police officers than anywhere else in the world.

#11 The United States spends much more on health care as a percentage of GDP than any other nation on the face of the earth.

#12 The United States has more people on pharmaceutical drugs than any other country on the planet.

#13 The percentage of women taking antidepressants in America is higher than in any other country in the world.

#14 Americans have more student loan debt than anyone else in the world.

#15 More pornography is created in the United States than anywhere else on the entire globe.  89 percent is made in the U.S.A. and only 11 percent is made in the rest of the world.

#16 The United States has the largest trade deficit in the world every single year.  Between December 2000 and December 2010, the United States ran a total trade deficit of 6.1 trillion dollars with the rest of the world, and the U.S. has had a negative trade balance every single year since 1976.

#17 The United States spends 7 times more on the military than any other nation on the planet does.  In fact, U.S. military spending is greater than the military spending of China, Russia, Japan, India, and the rest of NATO combined.

#18 The United States has far more foreign military bases than any other country does.

#19 The United States has the most complicated tax system in the entire world.

#20 The U.S. has accumulated the biggest national debt that the world has ever seen and it is rapidly getting worse.  Right now, U.S. government debt is expanding at a rate of $40,000 per second.

So are you convinced that we are in trouble yet?

The truth is that America has changed.  Most of us don’t even say hello to our neighbors anymore.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:01 | 1429944 MachoMan
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holy crap those things keep going up in price...  If someone is going to go this route, I would suggest trying to pick up an sks variant that accepts AK mags from the factory...  

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:10 | 1430180 High Plains Drifter
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yeh you used to see them for about a hundred bucks, but i think aim got ahod of some nice ones and they don't want to give them away.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 15:14 | 1430630 WaterWings
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Since I can only fire one rifle (accurately) at a time I have decided to spend a lot more than that to protect MY ONE LIFE.

Sell what you must.

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?clicktype=rifles

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 15:20 | 1430651 Clark Bent
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Those are fine choices. I think the best handgun I have laid hands on is 

 

http://www.berettausa.com/products/px4-storm-full-size-9mm/default.aspx

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 15:28 | 1430674 WaterWings
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Which is great if you also have the CX4.

I should have been more specific with the above link:

SCOUT SQUAD, BITCHES:

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?model=19

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:05 | 1429949 Doyle Hargraves
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Another plus to the 7.62x39 is most of the foreign troops that come to collect what they are owed use that particular load. Will make it easier to "acquire" ammo...probably wouldn't hurt to get one of these

 

http://www.ruger.com/products/gp100/models.html

 

 

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:45 | 1430114 Lednbrass
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Not many real militaries geared off of Soviet weaponry use this round anymore, they went to the 5.45X39 with the AK 74 30 some years ago.  Only MENA nations still seem to use it.

I used to have a GP100 that I had to sell soon after I became a parent, it is a nice pistol.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:11 | 1430184 High Plains Drifter
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when they were in chechnya , they had problems with that round. it would bounce off of leaves and twigs etc real easy. so many of them changed back to the 7.62 x 39mm rifles.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 14:34 | 1430472 Fukushima Sam
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Given that logic you don't even need that gun now.  Just get any old gun and then when the time comes you can "acquire" the gun you need, as well as the ammo in it.

Thu, 07/07/2011 - 11:00 | 1432481 Doyle Hargraves
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You sound like my Dad, Sam. He says the same thing, why buy high cap semi-autos when you can just dust off one of the enemy and take their fully automatic and ammo from em.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:28 | 1430048 Lednbrass
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A very good and reliable weapon that will take abuse and still go bang.  Not great at distance but effective out to 200 yards or so and relatively inexpensive.  Good choice for limited budgets.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:13 | 1430190 High Plains Drifter
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agreed. just like a old green beret i listen to said one time. it is a falsehood to think that we will all be snipers hiding out and shooting from long distances. he said, that almost all of your action will be within a hundred yards or less

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 13:43 | 1430284 Doyle Hargraves
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Very true statement...for that kind of engagement I trust my mini 14...can hit anything up to 3-400 yards spot on. SKS, AK is very durable but lacks the accuracy. If I am out at long distances I will take a Garand over everything else out there, little recoil, heavy barreled for accuracy and .308 it is about the best round there is for long distances (barrett arms are pretty much outlawed here, of course if it came down to using these for what they are for I doubt there would be too many 'laws' being enforced anyway).

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:28 | 1430049 Lednbrass
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A very good and reliable weapon that will take abuse and still go bang.  Not great at distance but effective out to 200 yards or so and relatively inexpensive.  Good choice for limited budgets.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:28 | 1430050 Lednbrass
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A very good and reliable weapon that will take abuse and still go bang.  Not great at distance but effective out to 200 yards or so and relatively inexpensive.  Good choice for limited budgets.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:28 | 1430051 Lednbrass
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A very good and reliable weapon that will take abuse and still go bang.  Not great at distance but effective out to 200 yards or so and relatively inexpensive.  Good choice for limited budgets.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:28 | 1430052 Lednbrass
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A very good and reliable weapon that will take abuse and still go bang.  Not great at distance but effective out to 200 yards or so and relatively inexpensive.  Good choice for limited budgets.

Wed, 07/06/2011 - 12:28 | 1430053 Lednbrass
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A very good and reliable weapon that will take abuse and still go bang.  Not great at distance but effective out to 200 yards or so and relatively inexpensive.  Good choice for limited budgets.

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