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Guest Post: Prove The Mayans Right - Address Structural Economic Problems With Chicanery

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Submitted by Davos Sherman Okst of Financial Sense

Prove The Mayans Right: Address Structural Economic Problems With Chicanery: Part 1 of 2

Structural Economic Problem #1: Unemployment

Seventy percent of our economy is driven from private sector employment: 

  • Without consumers the economy is finished
  • Without jobs and with maxed out debt loads the consumer is finished 

A fourth grader can connect these two dots and conclude: “It’s the jobs stupid.” 

Our current chicanery “fix” for high unemployment? 

  1. Reporting the unemployment rate at 9.4% - not the actual 23% - as if reporting 9.4% will put the other 13.6% back to work.
  2. Dump money out there in a “willy-nilly” manner and call it “Stimulus” or “Job Creation Money.” 

our entire situation, which I’ll address in a second, I don’t believe
that “Stimulus” will stimulate job creation or the economy. If they had
taken Chris Martenson’s
idea of insulating homes I might think differently about this. I say
this for two reasons: first, 1 in 6 jobs were housing related—that is
the sector that needs the most help. Second, global oil demand has
recently out paced global oil production. A plan that would reduce oil
demand and global oil stress should be the focus of any stimulus. Oil is
an integral part of everything from fertilizer used in farming to the
energy that our economy needs to produce and transport the goods and
services we rely on.

being said our economic engineers have come up with and implemented
ideas that  would make even the most ardent objector of workplace drug
screening reconsider his or her view. Case in point #1:
Institutes of Health (NIH) spent $823,200.00 of economic stimulus funds
in 2009 on a study by a UCLA research team to teach uncircumcised
African men how to wash their genitals after having sex.
The good news is that didn’t increase oil demand. The bad news is it didn’t do anything to create jobs here. 

Case in point #2: It takes 121,600 gallons of oil to pave 1 mile of road. Last year Government Motors sold more cars in China than in the US. China bought 13.7 million passenger vehicles FY2010, up 33% from FY2009.
The bottom line is our highway stimulus will do nothing but drive oil
prices higher. China is rushing to get their highway system built to
accommodate their new drivers.

I respect the idea that confidence and psychology affect consumerism,
the reality is that a 23% unemployment figure is a depressionary red
flag.  This tells us that the “Great Recession” has neither ended, nor
was it “just” a recession. I know it is hard to dispute the National
Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) - after all they were only 9 months
late in noticing and calling the greatest economic downturn in history.

fact remains: We are in a depression and failing to address the
structural unemployment problems will make matters worse not better. The
first step to fixing a problem is of course admitting that we have one.
We’ve squandered valuable time and in doing so we’ve greatly
exacerbated the situation.  

Globalization was an absolute
unmitigated, disastrous failure. The only thing it did was temporally
boost stocks and allow some CEOs to make 400 times what their
wage-earners made. While the economy appeared to be doing well - it was
bubble driven credit binging - not organic spending that was fueling it.
One economic blogger who is a CPA and works as a comptroller for an Ivy
League college did what no other economist I know did - he investigated
where consumers were getting their money from. Something Starbucks
Coffee’s economist should have done. Nine billion Home Equity Line of
Credit borrowed dollars were spent on 4 dollar coffees at Starbucks. The
HELOC rush caused 900 Starbuck stores to close.  

our Federal Reserve’s Federal Open Market Committee (Fed FOMC) minutes
from FY2005 indicate that exploiting globalization is funny stuff: “But
the common concern coming from the retailers, the rails, the shippers,
the shipbuilders, and so on, was the following:  Everyone I’ve talked to continues to try to figure out ways to exploit globalization. 
Each of them, from the IT [information technology] guys to the big box
retailers to the specialty chemical firms to the service firms, wants to
have offshore supply. One of the CEOs said, “We have a long way to go
in exploiting China.”  We’ve heard that forever.
And one of my favorites was the comment, “China, India, and Indonesia
can make Italian ceramics better than Italians can now or could 200
years ago.” [Laughter]” 

In the 1950s 28% of our
job base was from manufacturing. In 2000 it was 14% and today it is
11%. Water (wages) will slosh around until they stabilize at water
level. In other words, our wages will move down towards 2 dollars a day
and China’s will move up towards ours, they will meet somewhere in the
middle. The bottom line: This is why American workers are stuck at circa
1970s wages and have no money to consume or support our economy.

laugh is on the American consumer and the American economy. We’ve
exploited ourselves and our economy with “thinking” like this. Giving
African’s borrowed American tax payer dollars for genital washing after
sex, our lying about unemployment rates, and driving up oil demand (or
laughing about exploiting workers) won’t fix serious structural economic
problems - it'll make it a lot worse.

Structural Economic Problem #2: Absolutely Unmanageable Debt 

the House Budget Committee hearing was a surreal mix of fact and
fantasy, but mostly fantasy. The fact was that our biggest problem, on a
consumer, local, state, federal and global problem is debt.

businesses or individuals get in over their heads with unserviceable
debt levels they make cuts and they borrow. When that fails and they are
left taking in and borrowing less than their obligations - they declare
bankruptcy, reorganize and move on.

The two options I heard during the hearings?

  1. Default.
  2. Raise the debt ceiling and counterfeit, (print more money). Basically: Debt is the problem so lets add more debt?!?!

I didn’t hear mentioned was even more troubling. There are a million
“millions” to a trillion. But the 14 trillion dollar public debt is an
iota of our debt. Hidden off balance sheet
we have 14.6 trillion in Social Security debt, 76.4 trillion in
Medicare debt, 19.6 trillion in Prescription Drugs and about 3 trillion
in GSE debt. We make Enron look honest. All toll our debt is roughly 128
trillion. Then we can add to that the state debt and local government

Governor Christie will soon learn that cuts won’t fix too
much debt. When your debt to income ratio becomes insanely unmanageable
the only solution is to shed the debt.

Add up sales tax, phone
bill tax, building permit fees, utility taxes, automobile registration,
tolls, parking, automobile inspections, airline taxes, hotel taxes,
property taxes
and the all the rest and you will soon realize that the consumer works 8
full months for the local, state and federal governments. Paying our
fair share is great, but is it smart to leave the consumer with 3.5
months of circa 1970s wages to support the economy with?

If we
had just one dynamic person in that room during these hearings we’d have
heard another option: Restructure. Our currency needs to be re-valued,
they need to issue one new dollar which is worth many, many, many old
dollars. Back it loosely and temprarily to gold to ensure faith in the
new dollar. 

Clearly our problem is debt and there is only one historically way to fix too much debt and that is to restructure.

get me wrong, “printing”, “counterfeiting”, “monetizing the 1.5
trillion (and rising) of debt our government doesn’t have each year
through tax income and borrowing” and “Quantitative Easing” are all
one-in-the-same. We are restructuring our debt by re-valuing our
currency subvertly, Bernanke et al have just decided to do it “a la
Hiroshima style” which will be excruciatingly painful to 99% of all
Americans, it will undoubtedly put democracy in harms way and without a
backing/anchor to something the new currency will be shunned by the rest
of the world. This is not good for a country who doesn't run a trade

I’ve read just about everything Greenspan has written
and said over the years and one of the handful of things he got right
was this: “A democratic society requires a stable and effectively
functioning economy. I trust that we and our successors at the Federal
Reserve will be important contributors to that end.” ~Alan Greenspan

I’m not certain which end he is referring to. The United States is about 234 years old and half of the money supply has been created in this decade. Largely (read: almost entirely) because of what the then Fed Chairman
did with interest rates - and the muzzling of Brooksly Born who had the
audacious idea of putting measures in place to prevent derivatives from
ever becoming a household word.

Which brings us to the next structural economic problem.

Structural Economic Problem #3: The Value of Money & Inflation

irony here is one of the better explanations of what money is and how
inflation works was done by Greenspan in the 1960s when he published a
piece that was printed in Ayn Rand’s Capitalism.

He explains what money is:

  • A commodity
    that serves as a medium of exchange. (We all know what happens to the
    value of a commodity when it is too plentiful - its value decreases
  • Money is a store of value
  • A means of savings
  • His
    definition, since written in the 1960s before Nixon slammed the gold
    window and took us off the quasi-gold standard should be parsed with
    that in mind
  • That limited gold reserves prevented disasters by limiting the over-creation of credit/money
  • The recessions were short-lived since the money supply didn’t get out of hand

And then it gets good. Greenspan explains what caused the first Great Depression of our time (too much money):

  • “But the process of cure was misdiagnosed as the disease:
    if shortage of bank reserves was causing a business decline - argued
    economic interventionists - why not find a way of supplying increased
    reserves to the banks so they never need be short! If banks can continue
    to loan money indefinitely - it was claimed - there need never be any
    slumps in business. And so the Federal Reserve System was organized in
  • “When business in the United States
    underwent a mild contraction in 1927, the Federal Reserve created more
    paper reserves in the hope of forestalling any possible bank reserve
  • “The excess credit which the
    Fed pumped into the economy spilled over into the stock
    market-triggering a fantastic speculative boom.
    Federal Reserve officials attempted to sop up the excess reserves and
    finally succeeded in braking the boom. But it was too late: by 1929 the
    speculative imbalances had become so overwhelming that the attempt
    precipitated a sharp retrenching and a consequent demoralizing of
    business confidence. As a result, the American economy collapsed.”

Sound familiar?

is, in a sick sort of way, hysterical, for it was he who created a
fantastic speculative tech and housing boom through the creation of too
much cheap money pumped into the economy and through the dismantling of
Glass-Steagall Act, and the muzzling of the watchdog who wanted to
protect us the American public from the derivatives fallout.

He then goes onto define what a welfare state is: 

  • “...the realization that the gold standard is incompatible with chronic deficit spending (the hallmark of the welfare state).”

And how the welfare state steals from its productive hard working citizens:

  • “Stripped
    of its academic jargon, the welfare state is nothing more than a
    mechanism by which governments confiscate the wealth of the productive
    members of a society to support a wide variety of welfare schemes.”
  • “A substantial part of the confiscation is effected by taxation.”
  • “But
    the welfare statists were quick to recognize that if they wished to
    retain political power, the amount of taxation had to be limited and
    they had to resort to programs of massive deficit spending, i.e., they
    had to borrow money, by issuing government bonds, to finance welfare
    expenditures on a large scale.”

Somewhere between 1966 and his term from 1987 to mid 2006 the train left the tracks and kept going.  

you Alan for forgetting history and decency. At least know I know to
which end you were referring to in your December 5, 2005 speech above.

a doubt, with the monetization we have now, we will see hyperinflation
as the value of our dollar goes from the current .04 cents to 0.

Fed in the 1970s, thanks to the Nixon Administration was able to strip
out fuel and food from its “Core Inflation" number, something consumers
and businesses can’t do. During Clinton’s term Michael Boskin helped
tweak inflation by using Hedonics (Greek for feels good), weighting and

Core inflation and Enron accounting is how they
plan on solving inflation. Just remember what the Maestro of Disaster
said: The law of supply and demand is not to be conned. As the supply of
money (of claims) increases relative to the supply of tangible assets
in the economy, prices must eventually rise. 

Rise will be the understatement of the century.

people wrongly argue that the money is sitting, that there is no
velocity, or that the Fed can do the Paul Volcker and raise rates. Which
brings us to our next topic, monetizing debt through “Quantitative
Easing.” (Please See Part 2).


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Mon, 02/21/2011 - 13:50 | 982111 NOTW777
Mon, 02/21/2011 - 13:53 | 982122 reader2010
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This guy's got it half-right.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 13:54 | 982126 hugovanderbubble
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Nice post

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 13:53 | 982128 doomandbloom
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lets not involve the Mayans in this...their predictions have nothing to do with economies.


the economic game is created by us......the whole system needs to be changed...not just buying silver...or gold. The concept of what we are doing on earth itself...

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 13:58 | 982148 Xibalba
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Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:09 | 982186 Piranhanoia
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Mon, 02/21/2011 - 13:55 | 982136 Michael
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Pass the "Universal Bankruptcy Act of 2011" immediately.

This will cut the USA off from the rest of the world and end the wars.

We can pump the oil fields in the US as per Lindsy Williams and get all the oil we need.

We have plenty of coal and natural gas for all the electricity we need.

Next comes the revitalized production of consumes goods manufacturing in the US for all the jobs we need.

This is the only thing that can save the USA. 

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:41 | 982273 thetruth
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I haven't really thought it through but that might be the best idea I have heard in a while.  Imagine if we withdrew all of our military, stopped sending our money around the world and started making everything here.  Cut government so that there is no new debt and therefore no need to borrow anything.  If you don't need to borrow then your credit rating doesn't really matter... 

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:54 | 982333 rwe2late
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 The globalist corporations, global Pentagon, and international banksters will be the first to endorse anything close to that plan.

sarcasm off/

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:54 | 982334 chubbar
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Yeah, that may be good for you and I and the rest of the country but what about the Illuminati? What would they do for fun if the U.S. wasn't available to fuck with the rest of the world?

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:41 | 982508 thetruth
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Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:00 | 982363 snowball777
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Is there anything too stupid for even you to believe?

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 21:40 | 983744 collinar
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Put this guy in charge. He knows what to do!

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 13:56 | 982141 rosiescenario
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"Clearly our problem is debt and there is only one historically way to fix too much debt and that is to restructure."


....lets just take the easier, softer way...and politically expedient: lets just inflate our way out of this has always worked in the past...maybe Ben's POMO needs to be turbo'd?

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 13:59 | 982153 NOTW777
Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:01 | 982156 reader2010
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I bet $5.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:05 | 982173 NOTW777
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socal is already 3.75ish

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:19 | 982212 reader2010
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We need see a revolution in China to bring down their demand if we really want to lower the oil price. But, that's not in the interest of our ruling elite.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:25 | 982227 Thorny Xi
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$3.40 in western CO, Diesel about 30 cents higher

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:03 | 982163 PulauHantu29
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I'm too busy watching Balloon Boy re-runs. Sorry.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:04 | 982172 topcallingtroll
topcallingtroll's picture was all a debt induced fantasy and greatest stock market of all time, but the 1990's was the greatest decade ever for the usa.

We were mostly liked, mostly wealthy, mostly working, and my only worry was if I would be able to retire in luxury at 55 or 58. The USSR had disappeared and Boris Yeltsin was our friend.

It was the best of times. Everyone should get a chance to live in a mania at least once. I hope I get another turn.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:53 | 982730 duncecap rack
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It's too bad you have the two term limit for presidents. Clinton was better than Bush or Gore an I think he could have won easily. Things might have worked out better.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:05 | 982175 snowball777
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Nice post, but you left out the MIC, a prime driver of debt and oil demand.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:45 | 982294 rwe2late
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The failure to mention the MIC, I think, is no oversight.

 What's wrong with all the strictly financial\monetarist analyses is that they fail to consider what is worthwhile to produce.

Only to an accountant does being profitable equate to being good.

In their profit/loss world everything and everybody becomes a commodity.

Caring for the elderly? Naah, that's just stealing from the "productive workers". And of course, to an accountant, the "productive workers" are the ones who have the money. And what 1% has most of the money? Heaven forbid a bankster CEO be taxed, that would only be "theft" to support the "welfare dependency" of the unproductive (such as by providing schooling for children, or monitoring public water and sewage standards).

 Some restructuring is needed all right, restructuring of the concentration of wealth and power that precludes any democracy.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:57 | 982352 snowball777
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I consider it a form of Stockholm Syndrome...or analogous to middle children picking on the younger ones. It's like they don't recognize that there are agri-biz and insurance companies at the "trough" too.

Simple logic test: how do people with no economic power continue to "get their way" in each and every election (and often without even voting)?

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:11 | 982409 Beam Me Up Scotty
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The problem is on both ends of the spectrum.  The so called "poor" dont even pay taxes.  Where is the incentive for them to want taxes to be reduced?  Or the incentive for them to want less government waste?  Answer?  There is none.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:52 | 982543 rwe2late
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 You are incorrect to say the "poor" pay no taxes.

There are many regressive local taxes and fees. The SS and Medicare payroll taxes are also regressive. The matching employer "contributions" are arguably met by lowered wages.

What government "waste" are you most concerned with?

It does appear that the wealthiest have the biggest stake in the continuance of the biggest waste (MIC profiteering, Bankster handouts, pharmaceutical and health insurance markups)

and the "poor" the greatest stake in the continuance of what most non-accountants would not consider "waste" (public schools, elderly pensions, public transportation, public health care, public water and sewage, public parks, to name a few).

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 17:09 | 982770 RichardENixon
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Jeez, why do you have to keep hammering accountants? Those of us who do our job correctly are just trying to keep score.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 23:01 | 984019 GoinFawr
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Alternately I personally know a tax lawyer who charges six hundred bitz of pretty polly/hour exempting from taxation anyone who pulls in seven figures or more.

She's not always 100% successful, but she can't be doing that badly: business is booming.


@Beam me Up: Price inflation is a tax that even the poorest can't escape. Guess who it hurts the least.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:05 | 982176 Salvatore CFA
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Wasn't that Krugman's nickname at MIT ?

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 17:10 | 982774 RichardENixon
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Hmm, I was always under the impression it was Willy Wanker.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:06 | 982177 NOTW777
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one of the root structural defects is the madrasa culture of american universities; turning out brain washed, entitlement minded "citizens"

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:52 | 982681 Waterfallsparkles
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Really. The people on Welfare are living like kings. In a way you cannot blame them.  Their life is a lot better than people that work.  They get a Government Check every month.  They get food stamps or the freedom card, access to food pantries, energy assistance (they do not have to pay energy bills), free cell phones, Section 8 housing (which the Government pays for), free Medicaid with no deductible, and no worries.  Every month their accounts are automatically filled with money from the Government.  The people that pay for it are working stiffs that cannot hardly feed their family's or pay for health care, much less their house mortgage payment.

They get to watch tv all day, sit on the porch, watch the sunset, go to the park, any thing they want.  They have no demands made of them or of their time.  They just enjoy life, do what they want and have the Government send them money for nothing.  Every thing people want to do when they are retired.  But, these people have retired before they even went to work. They never even paid into the system, just usurped it and drained the life out of it and every American that works.

Plus, no taxes on the benefits they get.  They totally get a free ride.

So, who is really better off?

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 21:35 | 983729 snowball777
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Sure, they live in the nicest neighborhoods, have access to the best schools, get treated quickly at the best hospitals, and just think how much food you can buy with $668 for a family of 4 for a month...especially when there aren't any cost of living adjustments when prices skyrocket. Mmmmm boy.

If it's so awesome, give it a try, dickhead.


Tue, 02/22/2011 - 08:20 | 984625 johnnynaps
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But I have met a welfare milker who could make a person making $35,000 a year look like a dope! $700 a month for food, $700 for housing, free medical for her and the 3 children, part-time employment making $1100 a month and an $8500 tax return which equates to roughly an additional $700 month! - I know because I was her boss/employer!


Tue, 02/22/2011 - 12:26 | 985459 GoinFawr
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What a great anecdote! Too bad about the glaring contradiction that makes it look like utter twaddle.

Try again!

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:18 | 982209 TruthInSunshine
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Let us be honest, all around.

While I can't support booing or treatment this veteran rudely, who is closer to reality in their assessment of the fact:

those who believe that we/they are fighting in Afghanistan for some truly noble purpose on the altar of some American Principle(s), or those who believe that the war machine in the U.S. is a sham, motivated in part (or maybe all) by a corporate oligopoly and an elite class that profits from needless war, and views human misery and death that results from it as just 'the price to be paid' to make money and advance very parochial interests (having nothing to do with any noble ideals whatsoever)?


Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:20 | 982213 fragrantdingleberry
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My neighbor has a WW2 Sherman tank in his drive way. He can't get any shells for the cannon but he thinks he can start it up and move it into his front yard and threaten the rioters. I think he's nuts.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:18 | 982596 Moe Howard
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He should be able to easily rig up a jellied gasoline squirter using the barrel. A flame throwing tank should make a rioter think a bit before attacking. Remember the old proverb:

"Light a fire for a man, and he shall be warm for a few hours. Light the man on fire, and he shall be warm for the rest of his life."

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:23 | 982223 Caviar Emptor
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The first shots in The Oil Wars are being fired today in Libya. From this point on, competing nations will act to "protect their energy security interests". There's too much at stake simply to sit back smugly. There are too many risks. Developed nations that sit on the sidelines risk having an energy disaster. Those who were favored under the old arrangements stand to lose a lot. And opportunities for profiteering have just cesquicentupled in a matter of a day. Be prepared. 

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:26 | 982231 bugs_
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for you longs i just wanted to point out that the Mayan chartists figured the long count would end in Dec 2012.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:38 | 982266 NOTW777
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the mayans dont know

"No one knows about the day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when the time will come.

Mark 13:32, 33

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:21 | 982442 fragrantdingleberry
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Kind of like waiting for Godot.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:47 | 982523 Moe Howard
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Or waiting for my wife.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:28 | 982242 johnQpublic
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gallons of gas denominated coins

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 18:25 | 983075 SilverRhino
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I would love to have coinage denominated in gallons of petroleum.   1 coin / 1 gallon no matter the price?  I'm sold on it. :-)

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:33 | 982257 Ying-Yang
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Thank you Davos Sherman Okst. Well stated.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:53 | 982262 Dr. Acula
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>Globalization was an absolute unmitigated, disastrous failure

Correlation is not causation. You can't attack free trade or Ricardo's Law of Comparative Advantage based on the performance of an unimaginably complex, ever-changing market. And you especially can't attack them based on the performance of an economy riddled with anti-market activities (e.g. socialist thefts).

>A plan that would reduce oil demand and global oil stress should be the focus of any stimulus

More socialist ideas. If you think that it is a prudent use of funds then why not invest your own money. Don't use other people as guinea pigs to test out your crazy socialist experiments.

>“A democratic society requires a stable and effectively functioning economy. I trust that we and our successors at the Federal Reserve will be important contributors to that end.” ~Alan Greenspan

Clearly his trust was misplaced. The market requires no institution to fix the price of loanable funds, any more than it requires one to fix the price of potatoes. If these pseudoscientists really know what the interest rate "should" be, then let them prove it by profiting through shrewd speculation.


Mon, 02/21/2011 - 22:56 | 982427 GoinFawr
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Yeah yeah yeah. You sound like another "Last Year's Man". Time to update that lexicon, pal.

"The idea is simple, the reality is complex", gotcha. Thanks for comin' out and giving us another taste of the bleeding obvious.

Don't worry, we can figure out what side of the bread you like to butter.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:50 | 982312 zaknick
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All those reveling in the "American Empire" hubris get ready to eat your soiled underwears, muthaf@kers!



Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:52 | 982323 Snidley Whipsnae
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'The law of supply and demand is not to be conned. As the supply of money (of claims) increases relative to the supply of tangible assets in the economy, prices must eventually rise.'

These two long sentences can be boiled down to "Mr Market"... a term I often think of and use.

Mr Market always wins in the end. Mr Market can be barter, tally sticks, and free market capitalism, but not capitalism as practiced by central planners, whether here or in China.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:54 | 982335 Zero Govt
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bring back Tally Sticks that's what i say... worked in England for a Century or more did they not? ..Tally Ho

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:04 | 982384 snowball777
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Always fun to probe the etymology of 'long' and 'short'.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 20:00 | 982324 Zero Govt
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Davos Sherman Okst 

Apart from your two attempts at Marxist control and planning for both global oil and global trade the rest of your article was relatively sane

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 14:54 | 982331 SuperRay
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I call for a FLOODWALLSTREET day....

Any American with an ounce of patriotism in their blood must show up on Wall Street on the morning of April 15th to demand that all banksta's be taken down, or we will not leave.  It is time....







Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:50 | 982538 chunga
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1971 Ford Pinto

Money Quote:

“They shoot horses, don't they? Well, this is fish in a barrel. Of course the Pinto goes on the Worst list, but not because it was a particularly bad car — not particularly — but because it had a rather volatile nature. The car tended to erupt in flame in rear-end collisions. The Pinto is at the end of one of autodom's most notorious paper trails, the Ford Pinto memo , which ruthlessly calculates the cost of reinforcing the rear end ($121 million) versus the potential payout to victims ($50 million). Conclusion? Let 'em burn.”

The MBS is the ultimate defective product. Massive failure rate blamed on their incorrect use. Any other “innovative” product with a failure rate similar to MBS would have lawyers lined up for blocks.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:01 | 982371 aerial view
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nice article. One of the major impediments to fixing the system is that the very wealthy elite and powerful (includes govt) are not feeling the pain of the middle class and as long as there are lines to enter an apple store for the latest ipads, etc, things will not change. 

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:29 | 982465 Sqworl
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Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:23 | 982450's picture

Tyler, I put it this way--we have consumed too much, borrowed too much, imported too much;   we have not manufactured enough nor have we exported enough.  All growth since the mid '90's has come from increased debt--mostly from consumers and more recently from Government.  It is now a structural problem.  While globalization is in the mix---it was Greenspan's fault that he did not try to address our trade deficit and over dependence upon consumption/big houses early on.  It is true that China has not played fair and we should have forced the currency issue some time ago; it is not the fault of globalization.  Each area of the world should produce what they do best and export it and we should do the same.  The playing field should be somewhat level.  This lowers inflation/the cost of consumption and increases the standard of living around the world.  It works. 

     To solve the current problem, we actually need less consumption and more savings  (reduce imports and increase exports).  We need to get more efficient.  We need to look at the cost of government and medical as a burden and do everything possible to cut those costs or reduce the increases.  We need to focus on what creates jobs and what is included in business costs when competing with foreigners.  Investment is required for job creation; income taxes reduce funds available for investment.  Should we consider a very limited VAT--no higher than 5% that is refunded on exported goods (similar to Europe) and take the corporate income tax down to 10%?  Unions and work rules, Work Comp, unemployment, property taxes are all burdens on business.  We should be focused on reducing or managing these costs and we will start making more of our own goods and exporting more.

     Failure to recognize the problem means a continual decline in our standard of living. 

Alex Sinclair

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:39 | 982672 blunderdog
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We should be focused on reducing or managing these costs and we will start making more of our own goods and exporting more.

Even if we dump the minimum wage, revoke all safety requirements, and eliminate all non-wage worker expenses, we need to drive the cost of living in the USA down to about a quarter its current level to compete in the world of international exports.

I can live in a tent and subsist on rice and lentils, but I'm not sure 80% of the population is ready for that just yet.  At this point, I'm looking forward to $4/day dormitories with shared social space and IT infrastructure.

Are you?

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 22:43 | 983968 GoinFawr
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That was just amazing; I think I broke something.

But even though I laughed, it still made me feel kinda sick. Like this:

"Foreseeing some dismal Marxian Utopia as the alternative, the educated man prefers to keep things as they are. Possibly he does not like his fellow rich very much, but he supposes that even the vulgarest of them are less inimical to his pleasures, more his kind of people, than the poor, and that he had better stand by them. It is this fear of a supposedly dangerous mob that makes nearly all intelligent people conservative in their opinions." - Eric Blair

Come to think of it, anything that guy wrote...uh,George, is that you?

Tue, 02/22/2011 - 00:08 | 984240 blunderdog
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The only important us vs. them distinction is between those who see the mob as the threat or the good guys.

I'll lose my teeth, fine, but I'll keep my sense of humor.

Last I checked, George is no longer with us in corporeal form, but he's with us in spirit, and that's what the Internet is for--keeping the ghosts and daemons alive.

(On a strictly literal level: I've never shot an elephant.)

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 15:32 | 982477 narnia
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The global monetary system has been a far more effective tool for American imperialism than any standing army.  We have extracted the world's most valuable resources from the poor of the world in exchange for fiat debt that we have no intention of repaying nor do they have the ability to collect.  At the end of this game- which will only end as long as we get away with it- we load up our borders with the best military in the world, expel all foreigners from our educational institutions, move into all this great supply of housing we could not afford nor build under normal conditions, exchange food, water, gadgets & conventional weapons for whatever rare earth resources we need straight up or in gold, and sit back getting fat on GMO's & Coke and placated on drugs & other chemicals from the transfer payments from our government while the rest of the world burns and starves to death.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:29 | 982637 snowball777
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Another one with no concept of his own dependence on the outside world.

Prepare for a rude awakening. No lube edition.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:45 | 982698 narnia
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Please explain to me what I "need" other than drinkable water, healthy food (more nutrition = better health), competent health care & shelter for my family.  I'm all ears.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 22:34 | 983948 snowball777
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Oil. And lots of it. 22M bbl/day, in point of fact. Your 'best military in the world' runs on it (at least everything except the nuke subs) here or abroad. They will be very busy indeed if we default on our debts too.

You admit that you'll need food, but you can't both eat and export at the same time. We export $13B and import $10B...assuming you could even decide to swap one for the other, you'd still only generate $3B in exports. That won't even cover the oil (some of which you'll need for the fertilizer for the food anyway).

With what factories will you be making the gadgets again? The ones overseas perhaps? FAIL.

Conventional weapons? $7B in exports...- $831M imported. Not gonna cover your heating bills either.

At least your plan makes room in the white tower for you. You need their help in a bad way.

Tue, 02/22/2011 - 02:48 | 984462 narnia
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The market is going to have to demand that we change the way we use oil or come up with an alternative, anyway. Agriculture has to change from petrol based industrial (which is killing our bodies & minds, anway).  Water use & consumption have to change.  I'm not one of these global warming sellers either...  we are talking simple math of what the world has vs. what we need.  This is reality whether or not we have a global financial meltdown, which may be a blessing in disguise to force us back to "needs" vs. "wants" before a greater resource challenge blows up in our faces.       While the market is determining the solutions, the oil we have in reserve, the oil we can still drill with improved methods methods, and Canadian oil (which would fall under our military umbrella) should be sufficient- and will anyway for long enough for the people of the earth to chill out & start talking again.   Most of IP in technology is developed in the US & I don't expect that to change.  Building a factory around the know how is certainly easier than the other way around.  They'd be up and going within 18 months.  If they weren't, who really cares anyway?  Life may just be better without them.    As for me, I'll be on a water & energy sufficient farm well reserved outside the urban landscape.  I even have enough fuel on hand to get there.  These challenges will be for the people who relied on the state to save them.
Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:21 | 982609 THE DORK OF CORK
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A noble effort but I am not sure interest rates have such a strong relationship to the money supply in a post 1971 world.

Also if the new dollar came off gold when people from this age are still alive and voting it would not pass but you never can tell as the stupidity of this generation is beyond the beyond.

Efforts to re localise the economy is worth the effort - when you engage with the elite of my country who farm global credit flows for a living you get stunned silence or credulity when you mention such dirty talk.

They are still preprogrammed to the "new economy" mantra which is just a manifestation of credit produced via Arabia and other oil surplus areas.


Anyhow the gaff is fucked.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:27 | 982628 Rusty Shorts
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The Fall of the U.S. Empire = 9 years away, 2020.

 - excellent interview.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:33 | 982654 snowball777
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The 5 year forward adjustment on election of Dubya: classic.


Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:29 | 982639 Waterfallsparkles
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What if all money made by US Corportations or any Corporation that did business in the US would have to be taxed in the US, no matter where they earned the money?

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:35 | 982660 snowball777
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There would be less US corporations.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 16:46 | 982692 chistletoe
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The fascinating thing about the Mayans is not this bogus Hollywood-manufactured calendar date.

The Mayan civilization reached its peak around 700-900 AD, with large established cities

and trade routes and a largely-literate population.  Perhaps they had no further vision, no more worlds to conquor.  They had no natural or man-made enemies, no tribe of Huns at the wings, and no (yet) new fatal diseases.  But their civilization went into egregious decline.  Within a couple of hundred years, their population declined sharply and most of those who remained could no longer read or write (or chisel....) By the time the Spanish arrived, they were already finished, washed up.


makes you wonder ....

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 17:13 | 982793 Lndmvr
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Could have been imbreeding like the "people of Walmart".

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 22:35 | 983956 snowball777
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All the growth in the world is for nought, if you don't learn how to get along with each other along the way.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 17:46 | 982944 blindman
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willy nilly = very focused stealing.

Mon, 02/21/2011 - 23:12 | 984038 honestann
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Where does that $0.04 number come from?

1933: gold == $    20/oz
2011: gold == $1400/oz

20/1400 == $0.01428

So, in 78 years, the FederalReserve criminals reduced the value of the dollar from 100 cents to 1.428 cents.  That's just the plain obvious facts.

98.572% stolen by the predators-that-be
01.428% remains for you and me

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