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Governments raising the retirement age doesn't help to assuage any fears
Except, somehow, every statistic implies a need for socialism.
The problem is not what percentage of "the nation's" income is earned by rich people. There shouldn't be any caps on how much one can produce.
The problem is that high incomes on Wall Street are a direct transfer from American taxpayers. This is the dynamic of a banana republic, not of a free society.
You’re all pretty much fucked. You don’t know it yet. But, you are the NINJA generation. No Income, No Job, No Assets. You got a lot to live for too. Someone reminded me the other evening that I once said greed is good. Now it seems its legal. But folks, its greed that makes my bartender buy three houses he can’t afford with no money down. And it's greed that makes your parents refinance their two hundred thousand dollar house for two fifty. Then they take that extra fifty and go down to the mall. They buy a plasma TV, cell phones, computers, a SUV, hey why not a second home while we are it, cause gee whiz we all know the prices of houses in America always go up, right? And its greed that makes the government of this country cut interest rates down to one percent after 9/11 so we can all go shopping again. And they got all these fancy names for trillions of dollars of credits, CMOs, CDOs, SIVs, ABS . You know I honestly think that there’s maybe only seventy five people in the world who know what they are. But I’ll tell you what they are - WMDs, weapons of mass destruction! That’s what they are. When I was away, it seems greed got greedier with a little bit of envy mixed in. Hedge funders were walking home with fifty, hundred million bucks a year. So Mister Banker, he looks around and says my life looks pretty boring. So he starts leveraging his interests up to forty, fifty to one, with your money, not his, yours, because he could. You’re supposed to be borrowing not them. And the beauty of the deal, no one is responsible. Because everyone is drinking the same Kool-aid. Last year ladies and gentlemen, forty percent of all American corporate profits came from financial services. Not production, not anything remotely to do with the needs of the American public. The truth is we are all part of it now. Banks, consumers, we’re moving the money around in circles. We take a buck, we shoot it full of steroids. We call it leverage. I call it steroid banking. Now I’ve been considered a pretty smart guy when it comes to finance and maybe I was in prison too long. But sometimes it’s the only place to stay sane and look out through those bars and say “Hey, is everybody out there nuts?” Its clear as a bell to those who pay attention, the mother of all evil is speculation, leveraged debt. The bottom line is borrowing to the hilt. And I hate to tell you this, it’s a bankrupt business model. It won’t work. Its systemic, malignant, and its global, like cancer. It’s a disease and we got to fight back. How are we going to do that? How are we going to leverage that disease back in our favor? Well I’ll tell you. Three words, “Buy my book!” Prices and profits work.
Here's the problem: if the majority of the voters are debtors not savers, who will the politicians opt to favour (grasshoppers win over the ants I'm afraid). One of the reasons I think the lower classes are just cranking up the debt, apart from the obvious shortsightedness, is that they see it's their only way to get a share of what the crooks at the top are getting. They see their financial leaders systematically stealing and say: why should I pay my mortgage instead of just buying everything I want on credit? If they all buy the plasma TV's, guess what? There won't be enough collection agencies to take them back. I'd say the medium term problem is that there is an entire consumption economy that requires this wasteful spending just to maintain employment (China).
The only way it can end, IMHO, is China stops underwriting the consumption. It looks like it will be a while before that happens. I hope I'm wrong though.
One last fling with the the great whore, her mascara running down her face, lipstick on her teeth. The eastern horizon is starting to glow and the last few stars winking out to the west.
What you describe is very much analogous to the reasoning of a meth addict. There is a wall past which such behavior simply cannot proceed. That wall will be reached and hit.
The attitude of the people set in charge of the nations is criminal, demonic; this will all be set right as sure as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.
Of this I am absolutely assured and that is why I will not change my ways, participate in the ways of the great whore and receive of her plagues.
Great quote from the movie.
Now use another profile name, douche. This one's been taken.
Which comes first? The lack of freedom causes wealth inequality? Or does the wealth inequality cause lack of freedom?
I'm more imcline to believe the latter, but few will disagree that both feed on each other.
Completely off topic, but perhaps Tyler can re-print this tour de force by Chris Hedges:
Hey, thanks for the link. Was a pretty good read.
Thanks dog! Great to see you around again. Best wishes for the new year.
Thanks for the re-post. Good to hear from ya again. You were missed. Milestones
garbage: I wonder if Hedges ever read BNW or just cribbed it.
The two works, 1984 and BNW, are miles apart and not even related. And Bernard Marx was not the protagonist of the latter work; nobody who'd read the book would make that mistake.
Happy Holidays. Missed you on the open forum.
Important: HSBC implied in same bad practices like BoA. Julian Assange could reveal that
Are involved in fraud.
Yet not a single American would riot if Congress raised the retirement age. France, Greece and other riot, yet American Sheeple are easy to slaughter (especially the older ones thanks to the Obama health 'care' bill).
Agreed. Viewed from the outside Americans are being sheared alive yet are unbelievably passive. Even the poor Greek fisherman knows he's been had by the world's bankers and puts up a fight but Americans still believe in the 'American Dream' - that damnable intoxicant! Staggeringly, when Wikileaks comes along to actually dump the evidence in front of them the only thing they think of is how to blast WikiNews to smithereens too. They are left with just blasting and bombing - and still with the idea that they are the top dogs and run the world, even though their own situation is that of abject misery.
This is due, in large part, to the most massive manipulatory scheme ever devised and its purveyors have been at the game so long that they have become master artisans. The other issue is that many people have yet to truly feel the pains of a greater deleveraging process due to governmental safety nets.
Some pain can be a good thing. It sharpens the senses and forces people to deal
with real problems instead of the 'extend and pretend' bullshit. Gov't safety net
is helpful and I'm not saying there shouldn't be any, but in the end learning to be
smarter and more self-sufficient is the best way out of this mess.
I agree. The problem in this case comes from the magnitude of difference between the present population and the ability to become smart and self-sufficient in the time required... It's more or less a tidal wave coming.
"Viewed from the outside Americans are being sheared alive yet are unbelievably passive."
But it is believable:
> Shallow Culture
>Poor Critical Thinking Ability
>Isolation From Community (need more pubs)
So, to me, I see little prospect of an 'awakening giant' here.
Time will tell...
Yes, I agree. The other day I caught a bit on one of the popular 'news' channels and he was trumpeting 'arresting' Assange, 'espionage', 'treason', blah blah blah. Somehow these TV foghorns seem to think that we (people on earth) adhere to American laws and whims. Julian Assange is an Australian and he is living in the UK. He will not be doffing his cap to the Great American Republic - nor will we let him.
Excellent post. I agree 100%
Thank you Raymond - so good to hear.
wasn't he replying to nostradumbass?
Yes. I was agreeing with Nostro
High Fructose Corn Syrup, awesome.
I get the argument but what is with foreigners obsession with this? The fact that our teeth dont all look like this? http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7712694
From Jersey Shore to Beverly Hillbillies we cover it all
Meh, ours sucks, but where are the cultures where education equips it students with strong critical thinking skills? Definitely not the emerging economies. Rote memorization is for fail.
With all respect to George Carlin we're like the rest of the world; a couple of winners and a whole lot of losers.
Umm, Soccer? Nothing in America can touch the rapaciousness of the ROW and its futball.
Its a big country, this is easier said than done. A big + on needing more pubs however ;)
Like commenting on blogs?
Its been liked to underactive thyroid function. The thyroid controls ALL metabolic processes, including mental function. The teeth may be cavity free but at the expense of the mind and body. My experience with underactive thyroid leads me to believe it is due to flouridated water. I can't prove it and don't feel the need. Very quickly, I've suffered from mild hypothyroid symptoms for almost 20 years and was on the low end of normal on blood tests. Three years ago I moved to a tropical island. We are not authorized to have personal motorized vehicles. This means we all either ride bikes or walk everywhere. For the first three months I was here, I dropped 20lbs. I was drinking lots and lots of water. Then I stopped losing weight. Then started gaining it. My skin become even drier and puffier. The muscle cramps appeared. My nails became dry and brittle. Later, my hair began to fall out and I was exhausted all the time. Thyroid tests showed lower end of normal range. I finally convinced a doctor to put me on medication. In two and half months, I've stopped gaining weight. My skin is better, nails, too; hair stopped falling out, and muscle cramps are improved. Best of all, I have some energy again. Still not 100% but much improved. Saw the doc yesterday. He upped the medication. So, hopefully this will do the trick. When I get back to being more active and start drinking more water, I'll make a note if my symptoms return and my blood tests change.
I know this doesn't prove anything.....
Do you clean a lot? Maybe it is the Chemicals in the Cleaning Products.
i spent decades on the other side -- too much thyroid. it is beyond amazing the number and variety of symptoms that can occur. very easily fixed if one's thyroid level does not jump around a lot.
Say hello and thank you to the Tavistock Institute.
They've been our master's for well nigh the last 6-7 decades?
Edward Bernays, Public Relations and propaganda.
The old 1-2-3. Powerful stuff, hard to resist.
The mobile phone is their wet dream adn we've all been had.
Which groups are rioting in Europe though? The communists? Students upset over a nominal increase in tuition?
When people do get upset enough to take to the streets en masse here in the US it's not going to be a molotov cocktail thrown here and there between rocks and bricks. We're not at that point yet.
The student "riots" in the UK were becuase the government TRIPLED tuition fees. Wonder what would happen here if they tried that? Don't worry. We'll find out soon enough.
My bad, and thank you - that's far from nominal, but it still only puts the cost at $14k/year. Sure it hurts, but any worthwhile steps toward "austerity" are going to hurt, and their something-for-nothing university system was probably a sensible place to start.
Tripple it not a fkn problem.
That will just turn the 20% failure of the dummies failure to pay rate on up to the free ride rate of 60%.
Plus it might just increase the dummies to increase sign up.
More freeeeeeeee$$$$$$$$ for your expanding space.
Riot? What a waste of time and energy, not to mention a risk to one's health. I'm way to busy stacking my larder to worry about trying to replace the corrupt shills in govt. with new corrupt shills.
I've known I couldn't rely on SS since I was friggen 16. People can kick and scream all they want demanding more entitlements but that's not going to get them anything but more inflation. We've passed the point of no return on that front a long time ago.
Face it: You will get less and less benefit from you taxes every year. Eventually, you will get no benefit. That's just the way it is. Pay unto Caesar what is his: Fiat crap. Take what you've got left after taxes and turn it into real assets: Food, land, PMs; the means for self-reliance.
The writing's been on the wall for more than long enough for anyone with half a brain to figure out they better start getting themselves and their families prepped for a more self-reliant future.
Revisit the Fable of the Ant and the Grasshopper... All the grasshoppers in the field could gather together to cry and moan and riot and that wouldn't get them the food and shelter they'd need to last through winter any more than handouts of fiat currancy would if there's no food or housing to buy.
Rioting is what people do when they're out of options and realize that they're completely fucked. Get yourself out from between the rock and a hard place using the time you've got left and you won't be in a position where lashing out uselessly is your only option.
I'm way to busy stacking my larder to worry about trying to replace the corrupt shills in govt. with new corrupt shills.
So true. BTW, I am using that as my new email signature!
MarketTruth, I have a slightly twisted take on what you're saying. And I speak from some experience (12 years in the US working from senior management in fortune 50 to silicon valley start-up grunt), Americans don't really work too hard. Lot's of party time. Slow mondays, TGIF, 3 hour lunches, lot's of talk, meetings. Pretty shocking actually (this is 1995 through 2006).
So, really, no one should mind too much. The 80/20 rule is alive and well in the US of A.
Throw in the fact that FIRE was on fire the years I was there, it' seven less like work. Lot's of net surfing, time-wasting is what I saw.
Maybe the sharp downturn has changed things, but somehow I doubt it.
Excellent point, Xibalba.
Whenever they post this types of articles, they conveniently neglect to mention how many endless layoffs these Americans have been victim to; how many endless pensions have been stolen from them; how many endless numbers of jobs have been offshored, severely curtailing wages, and dramatically shrinking their jobs base.
A friend of mine, an individual who has contributed mightily to American IT tech, has watched his jobs, and said technology, offshored endlessly. (His longest-lasting job, prior to being offshored, over the past 20 years was 19 months!)
And they act as if this was something quite recent, although it has been going on for over 40 years, with exponential increases every 5 to 8 years.
401K's, IRA's and pensions....are great vehicles for Wall St to rape the middle class.
It encourages putting savings into the markets. At this point, the criminals are able to steal at will.
I am retired with zero debt and living reasonably well on fixed income (GNMAs and munis etc.). I had a moron advisor at Morgan Stanley advise this week that I rotate $$$ into the stock market. I laughed her off the phone. I wonder if she is married to Robo...
She wasn't too far off the mark. Better be in the market, somehow, somewhere.
You planning to sit in bonds and munis through raging price inflation?
I have modest annual health insurance premium hikes and rising food and gasoline costs (I only drive about 2,500 miles a year) and property tax hikes. Other than that, my cost of living doesn't go up very much. I don't have house payments or car payments or credit card debt etc. I still have plenty of cushion re. fixed income.
Yes, I plan to stick with this formula. No way am I throwing money in the stock market now (though I do own some physical silver and gold).
Nothing wrong with investing in local businesses either... obviously some are better situated to handle the flood, but at least you know what you're buying...
She is 100% right. It is all about "buy the fucking dip" now... hehe
you don't have to commit your capital forever, as long as Ben is heading the fed.. hehe
Anyway, this piece is no news. Nothing new. We can find every piece of data on wiki. Keep saying "American is not rich anymore" won't help anyone.
I know you are sweating and worried. I would be. So let us play a game of "what if" and see where it leads us. The things you talked about are paper. Paper is paper. Do not trust it. It may work and it may not. These are the days we live in and these are the times we are in now. Could there be defaults. You damn right there could and there will be. I would hope that you are heavily hedged against calamity. There is only one way that I know of to do that and do it safely. Be your own banker and your own bank guard too. Such is the life we must lead in the 21st century in this land, where fiat is dying.
I hope you are not in California munis...
California munis? No chance.
Texas GO bonds.
I think Texas would probably default on its bonds the day after Alaska does. Which is to say, never.
Yes, and housing prices NEVER go down...
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