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Guest Post: Shining A Light On Expert Networks Part 2

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Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:14 | 40977 ShankyS
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Markopolous part deux. Wonder if Cuomo can act any faster than the SEC? Something tells me that Sphincter (I mean Spitzer) would have been all over this by now.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:26 | 40991 PragmaticIdealist
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Spitzer has been backed by the hedge fund industry his entire political career. Best friend is Cramer, his call-girl was a "friend" of Chanos.

He only targets Wall Street banks and researchers with inane attacks intended as a sleight of hand manoevre to propel himself into power via populist appeal.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 11:09 | 41058 ShankyS
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Thus my point after the last letter that Cuomo will tread lightly as his political aspirations will outweigh public well being. They are all crooks.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 11:11 | 41066 Sqworl
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Markopolous recently stated that CDO market made Madoff look like a peanut.. His mistress confirmed that statement in her new book!  lol

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 14:18 | 41404 Anonymous
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Wed, 12/15/2010 - 06:01 | 807422 Karston1234
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These are idle allegations, of course. Not that any of this could ever be true. Of course, it would be very easy to disprove such allegations.High School Diploma | Online GED | Online homeschooling

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 16:54 | 41238 darkness (not verified)
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But there are political limits to labour exploitation in China (those guys sure know how to riot!), and any real, lasting

good articles; good articles 4 slow news day ..http://www..
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Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:17 | 40981 Sqworl
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Again, at present our AG will not target NY based corps...Campaign money will get him to Albany!!!

Wed, 12/15/2010 - 06:01 | 807424 Karston1234
Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:23 | 40989 PragmaticIdealist
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1) www.deepcapture.com --> Hedge funds will do anything as covertly as possible and manipulate even cancer biomedicinal industries to achieve their means.

2) They will never provide damning recordings of conversations and probably never record the damning conversations in the first place.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:26 | 40993 peoplesdemocrat...
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Seems like a no brainer.....Andy should be all over this.

So many crooks and so little time.

Go get'm TD!


Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:30 | 40996 Anonymous
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this is incredible info, and you guys really have balls for putting it out here.

that said, the regulators aren't exactly "regulating" anything any more, so....whatever....

i mean, the manipulation is breathtakingly blatant at the Comex. JPM is virtually dictating the price of silver, and are they even talking about position limits for that yet?

so.....insider info? pfffftttttt

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 11:09 | 41060 Sqworl
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lol...exactly when do you believe they stopped regulating???

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 12:05 | 41155 Art Vandelay
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It says everything about the world we live in, that it takes bigger balls to write about this going on than it does to do the deeds being written about in the first place.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:35 | 41008 JohnKing
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Please stop all this!

First front running and now insider trading, how will the important people be able to survive if you take away their edge?

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 16:54 | 41236 darkness (not verified)
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We've picked up since then, volumes are lower than last year but, looks like a normal year end ramp up. Next year will be another question mark.

good articles; good articles 4 slow news day ..http://www..
hat tip: finance news & finance opinions

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 10:48 | 41029 Anonymous
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Of course. There are way too many conflicted wheelings and dealings that is going on in the world of finances. And those efforts of uncovering them are appreciated. But for once, I would like TD (or I could do that myself)to present a solution that takes out the heart of the issue. If back in the fifties I wanted to gamble,and I knew that Las Vegas is run by the Mafia,then I would do it on my own. There was no goverment incentive(through tax incentive) for me to do that. So we take all the tax incentive from socks investing. I mean you make it a go it alone.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 11:13 | 41032 channel_zero
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..about their own company but about any number of other companies including but not limited to: handset companies, communications tower operators, communications equipment manufacturers, fiber-optic cable makers, engineering contractors, colocation facilities companies, and OSS/BSS software companies.

... Andrew Malis is the Director of Packet Network Engineering at Verizon Communications


I do MPLS deployments with telco's all of the time and it's the same organizational silos everywhere.   If you understood what MPLS was you would have a clue that fiber optic cable makers aren't paying this guy a visit any time now or later. 

Colos. Why would they care?  Their network connections dwarf MPLS on the slowest day in a century.   That is unless you are talking about the 'colo' in my garage or other genius plans where execs think managing the physical location just because it looks like they can.  (And why not? They don't get the call at 2AM when the AC breaks)

The guy  provides b*llsh*t detection for interested parties.  At best, he can share Engineering department gossip.  The guy has almost no business-side exposure.

Your Wynit piece was *way* more likely than this one.

Finally, I earned some money through GLG after a previous super-niche employer. 

1. Some of the customers talking to me got their deeply flawed technical explanations from the basket cases trying to pump share prices or do an M/A.  What made matters worse was they believed *all* of it.

2. The vast majority of the people I talked to didn't ask very good questions.  I don't expect them to be specialists, but I expected better questions.  I wrongly assumed they cared about other people's money.

3.  There were some good ones who didn't know enough, but still had excellent questions.   Those were so few and far between I lost all hope that the financial side was any better than the industries I've worked in.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 11:08 | 41054 Milton
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I'm surprised that Golgman Sachs hasn't sent Gerson Lehrman a cease and desist on their logo. Creepy.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 11:54 | 41141 zeropointfield (not verified)
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Good catch. Seems that Board Member Mike Bingle is a former Goldman Sachs investment banker. Mike Bingle also worked for Apollo Management L.P.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 12:12 | 41166 GoldmanSux
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Verizon has poor ethics. They took their sleepy yellow pages division, a cash cow in a mature industry, levered it up and paid the parent a wopping dividend. I think it was $9 Billion. Then they spun it off with a rag tag board of directors. Three CEO's within the first year. Needless to say, the sub is now basically bankrupt. Out and out fraud if you ask me.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 12:13 | 41171 e1even1
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Hedgehog's Repent, i think you're on the wrong side of the real scam here. it's a garden variety advisory service scam.

the expert or a partner takes a leveraged position, it doesn't matter what, and contacts the institutional clients with the tip. soon the dark pools are swirling and roiling, the market is popping and pulling all the momo quant triggers, and next thing you know it's heat map city and off to the races. the expert liquidates into the market move. easy money.

front running. one of the oldest scams in the book. i dont know if it's actually illegal though because it's not done by a broker/dealer. that could be why i've never heard of a prosecution.

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 16:53 | 41234 darkness (not verified)
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The foreign capital that jumped in will have to come out. The dollar and the yen are the most likely beneficiaries.

good articles; good articles 4 slow news day ..http://www..
hat tip: finance news & finance opinions

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 13:03 | 41298 Anonymous
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I've crossed paths with GLG's founding partners, and it's fair to say ethical niceties don't preoccupy them

Wed, 08/19/2009 - 14:57 | 41463 Anonymous
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According to the GLG website, their co-founder was a Yale Law graduate, thus I am guessing they have a very built out compliance department. They have probably taken all the necessary steps (paperwork, consent forms etc) to remove themselves from the equation and any liability for the content of the phone discussions.

Also, it looks like Silver Lake Partners took a $200m position in the company early 2007. I am not sure how much equity they purchased, but I am guessing around a quarter or a third of the business. I can't imagine SLP making a smaller scale investment in GLG if they had ANY concerns about the legality of their model (the risk v reward for someone like SLP wouldn't make sense).

It's probably the hedgies and the consultants who are holding the stick on this one, and with how far behind the SEC is already, I am sure they are willing to take the risk or fudge the line on their "key" discussions. Besides, some of these large funds have bigger legal departments than boutique law firms.

I tend to agree with channel_zero that the majority of the conversations are probably just young analysts asking stupid questions to get up to speed on some space or company their PM has tasked them on. I imagine that the real info probably changes hands in a more ambiguous manor, but then again, look at Pequot - and the SEC can't even lock that one in...sigh

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 04:15 | 42027 Anonymous
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Hey, I resemble that remark - I live in an "ambiguous manor".

Thu, 08/20/2009 - 13:11 | 42365 Anonymous
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If you look at GLG's founding individual investors, you'll find a lot of overlap with the firms engaging GLG.

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