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Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:30 | Link to Comment ATG
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When markets are drying up

and dying, does it make cents to

play the same old losing game?

Mr Buffett may have to cover his

naked puts yet or watch his credit

slip another notch or two. His

stock split maybe put BRK/B

in weaker hands...

http://www.jubileeprosperity.com/

 

 

 

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:39 | Link to Comment dumpster
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strategies to avoid financial extinction

 

1) write a market letter  $250

2) give advice of how to avoid market extinction  $250

 

3) start your own company work like heck for 30 years , sell to a bigger player

 then do 1) and 2)

 90%  of market traders lose ,,

 so the last item to win is be part of the `10%

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:47 | Link to Comment Roy Bush
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What a bunch of nonsense.  These markets are completely rigged.  Pick stocks, ha!  When Goldman et al. are front running with HFT and the big players have the ability to move the markets without any regards to fundamentals, the average investor is playing into a loaded deck.  On top of this the Fed is creating so much money as to make ordinary savings more and more worthless.  

 

The only answer is to hunker down with assets you can actually touch and feel.  Metals, collectables, land, oil etc.  In the long run, these will always go up...in the very least keep up with inflation.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 21:56 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 02/18/2010 - 22:21 | Link to Comment strike for retu...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honecker had a fun retirement. There is a message in that for some.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 22:39 | Link to Comment Privatus
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No entry rules, no exit rules, no allocation rules. Yeah, sounds like a great strategy.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:18 | Link to Comment jm
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I thought that would be too Wilmottish.

Am I wrong?

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 22:41 | Link to Comment crzyhun
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Very interesting....let me add buy volatility now. It is cheap again, and it can't any cheaper.

Thu, 02/18/2010 - 22:50 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Thu, 02/18/2010 - 23:06 | Link to Comment jdrose1985
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How about #1, realize someone must pay for that free lunch

 

#2 accept fact that it will likely be you paying for that free lunch unless

 

#3 invest in yourself and those around you

 

#4 seek market neutrality to maintain wealth while continuing #3

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 09:54 | Link to Comment Anonymous
Fri, 02/19/2010 - 00:03 | Link to Comment Trifecta Man
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Strategy to avoid financial extinction

(assuming you are not a large campaign contributor or lobbyist)

1) Realize the government has bailed out a lot of crooks, who in turn are giving themselves large bonuses at the expense of the stockholders and taxpayers.

2) Realize that most politicians are either bought for favoritism or too naive to realize how they are also scammed.

3) Don't believe what the authorities tell you (such as the crisis is contained, or jobs will be created, they believe in a strong dollar, etc.)

4) Bet the opposite way once the masses have acted in the predictable way on any news.  (For example, if the IMF wants to sell a lot of gold, buy the dips.)

5) In the short run, pay more attention to price vs. moving average on a chart than fundamentals.

6) In the long run, buy the dips on long term demand growth and long term supply constraint.  (Gold, baby, Gold!)

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 05:22 | Link to Comment order6102
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Simple way to avoid meltdown - long Gamma...(and I mean Gamma not some stupid way out of the money things that people pay fortune to own). But this strategy required work to cover theta, and nobody want to work anymore.

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 10:25 | Link to Comment jm
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I don't know your book, but the ratio-call spread I described gives a boost my portfolio Sharpe ratios.  Much better than straight index investing.

 

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 12:18 | Link to Comment order6102
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issue is, most RV (outperformance) books, short beta, and been long XYZ against short SPX is short gamma trade. This why they all blew up in 2008. As in times of collapse everyone need beta and nobody want/need XYZ. So, despite what all risk models tells to long/short muppets they are short gamma and buying deep out of the money puts on SPX doesn't solve problem, as you have no gamma for next 300 points... so, best way just buy straddles, short strangles and have your long/short portfolio on... 

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 13:09 | Link to Comment jm
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I appreciate this.

 

BTW, you ever work with gamma swaps?

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 15:17 | Link to Comment order6102
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i work with variance swaps, not sure they are same. this one your should always be short against long straddles. you get free intraday gamma... 

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 16:02 | Link to Comment jm
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I get you... they are dispersion vehicles.  Just wonder if the product could be tailored to generate efficient long gamma exposure and hedge the other greeks.

Sat, 02/20/2010 - 06:54 | Link to Comment order6102
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absolutley YES. its great product for portfolio that doesn't want to bother with day to day gamma hedging. Very low theta bill and you long variance (avg vol, not actual vol). So, main users of it - long/short guys. We use to be main sellers of it, bcs in my previous life i market make listed options, so you end up long gamma any way, and you sell variance swap to equity funds. 

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 06:23 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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Fri, 02/19/2010 - 11:32 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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1) buy a bank

2) buy a congressman

Fri, 02/19/2010 - 12:11 | Link to Comment Anonymous
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