Guest Post: The Three Ds: Delegitimization, Definancialization, Deglobalization

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Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:23 | 1419464 hugovanderbubble
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How is possible Charles Hugh that CDS market doesnt take into consideration a CREDIT EVENT?


If not, ...ICE market , will dissapear. Cos the Insurance lost all legal force. (We have seen in the European French and German Banks with Greek Debt).


For me this is illegal.

And must be considered a CREDIT EVENT

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:51 | 1419549 NotApplicable
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Sorry, no credit event for you. TPTB will tell you if and when one happens. Your input is not required, nor desired.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:53 | 1419558 hugovanderbubble
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Fri, 07/01/2011 - 20:41 | 1420593 Jalaluddin
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I thought the three D's were




Sat, 07/02/2011 - 03:33 | 1420880 oldman
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If there is no money then there is just NO MONEY!

The deal is done---it is all over----we here on this blog just keep trying to blow life into the corpse of the machine with all of our hot air.

Let's keep it light and enjoy the film----life is easy, brother

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:29 | 1419469 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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And deez....

......deez nutz!

Sorry, I had to.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:32 | 1419473 topcallingtroll
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European banks hold debt at par that trades at a 50 percent discount. Even more amazing the European banks are still leveraged 30 to 1 on that mythical par value.

Why do Europeans such as Juncker and Trichet go on tirades about the inferiority of the American financial system?

Our 13 to 1 leverage looks good in comparison.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:28 | 1419475 Rossalgondamer
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Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody's Analytics...seems to favor JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon, saying he'd be a "fabulous" Treasury Secretary.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:52 | 1419552 NotApplicable
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What, did Goldman run out of candidates?

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 14:11 | 1419610 centerline
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Guess he figures the banks are going to win in the end and some slobbery dick sucking efforts right now might win him a spot as court jester in the NWO.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 17:09 | 1420213 sgt_doom
sgt_doom's picture's going to be Erskine Bowles -- he was an acolyte of Kissinger at Forstmann & Little, and has a bunch of private equity banksters' experience, and lies darn good....

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:34 | 1419483 zKeyserSoze
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The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."
Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, The - (Movie Clip) Print The Legend

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 14:08 | 1419604 richard in norway
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my god, i saw that movie last week, it was great. it got me thinking about how much our movie heros have changed


Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:31 | 1419486 Long-John-Silver
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Dekeynesianism by default Bitchez!

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:32 | 1419490 AnAnonymous
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Deglobalization? At this stage?

The end of the Euro? Just after they showed they were able to play the game by the rules, knowing loopholes to exploit the system?

No end to the game before it can not be physically (not more physical inputs or not enough) sustained.

US world order.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:34 | 1419495 zKeyserSoze
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dow is up 5 billion ponts today

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:35 | 1419498 yabyum
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Turned on the tube last night, Mr + Ms Flipper are buying houses in Panama. Like a fucking plauge on the land.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:36 | 1419499 falak pema
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Right now the Oligarchs are in deep into D-cubed. They don't buy the 3 ds as Charles advocates. In the ruins of their global scheme will there be a FDR type to reign in the Oligarchs and build the new model?

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 20:33 | 1420556 Seer
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Sure they will try, but that doesn't mean that there's anywhere near the possibility that they can even come close to resolving anything.  The FDR era swam in physical resources, and enjoyed industrial conquest (after WWII wiped out competition); and then there's the issue of public and private debt...

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:37 | 1419503 Everybodys All ...
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Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:42 | 1419504 VyseLegendaire
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I hope you're right.  This rollercoaster has been topping out for what seems like years now. 

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:56 | 1419568 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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I agree. I was panicked in late 2008, thinking we'd look like the 3rd world by 2010. Nope, this is a very slow motion crash. Just keep going, reserving extra essentials (whatever you prefer--food, gold, lead delivery systems, etc). 

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 16:58 | 1420196 Rhodin
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It IS in slow motion, because the Powerz are delaying things until they are prepared and have fall guys to blame the crash on.  (Expect gold/silver owners to top the blame list.) Their prep process is about complete now, and their ability to slow things is waning.  Expect a "catch-up" crash and a resumption of downward momentum within weeks to months.

While stashing stuff is good and necessary, this crisis could go on long enough that you will need local means of producing and acquiring necessities.  These take time to set up, especially producing local food.  Best get started, ASAP if not there allready.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 20:35 | 1420569 Seer
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Looks like you've been peering into my crystal ball.  Trenchant comments!

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:43 | 1419506 whiskeyjim
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"Broadly speaking, the global economy and thus globalization and its sibling, financialization, depend on the legitimacy of centralized institutions."

Smith begins with this premise. It is wrong. Marco Polo didn't need a centralized institution. Neither did Barclay's bank to do business in Argentina in 1810.

Sure, it is politicized centralized institutions that enabled the largest traders and financiers to leverage their assets beyond prudence (see the Basil Accords) and bailed out the losers. After all, only a politicized idiot would keep lending Greece money, and pretend finance is the answer to a structural problem.

Massive write-downs must come. TARP prevented that in the USA and stagflation is the result. Same with Greece.

It is time these centralized agencies go away. Wall Street would stop preying on stupid politicians and house owners or they themselves would go away. Reserves would rise and finance would become boring again, just like it should be.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 20:41 | 1420584 Seer
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"Reserves would rise"

Based on what?

The growth curve is flattening out and will be falling over the edge.  I doubt very much that this projection (and velocity) can be tolerated by the System for very long, let alone for decades (not a chance for it lasting centuries).

Economies of scale in reverse.  One day people will get it, what impact this will have (had).

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:43 | 1419507 subqtaneous
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Throw increasingly more expensive energy and protectionism in this cocktail while you're at it.


Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:43 | 1419515 ziggy59
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SHOULD be 4 Ds...the most obvious one, not just a River;
"Da Nile"

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:50 | 1419528 Dirtt
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Three D's and an I.

Impeach Trikky Dick and let John Boehner become POTUS 45 to finish out this term. I don't personally have any animosity towards Boehner. Seems like a very likable guy. He is a victim of circumstance.  ANYONE with any connections to the US COngress over the last several years share that same circumstance.


There is absolutely NOTHING LIKABLE about Trikky Dick. Sheriff Joe is not far behind. Sheriff? Does that make Charles Manson a pediatrician?

This nation will not make it to Nov 2012 without widespread permanent damage. We better slam the vault shut ASAP.  Before the 3-D's come to fruition the Impeachment Of Trikky Dick should precede.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:50 | 1419530 Joe Davola
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this sucker's going down

I'd always attributed that to Clinton.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 14:02 | 1419571 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Only when he spots Hillary naked

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 14:20 | 1419631 Joe Davola
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Good point, I guess Bill could have said it also.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 15:13 | 1419815 Long-John-Silver
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Thanks for putting that in my head going into a Holiday weekend -NOT-.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:57 | 1419557 P-K4
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SEC, IMF, IEA, EU, et al, - deez deliquents dote direliction of duties daily.  

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:54 | 1419563 Gubbmint Cheese
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Charles.. you forgot the last D


Fri, 07/01/2011 - 13:59 | 1419564 Raymond Reason
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De-fang the military... bitchez

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 15:18 | 1419823 Long-John-Silver
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You can't De-fang the military, you must De-money it.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 14:08 | 1419589 centerline
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As long as history is not rewritten down the road, at some point people will look back at what happened and shake thier heads at the chain of events and how we failed so miserable to see the forest for the trees.  This mess is rooted in the most simpliest of concepts.  And those simple concepts seem to be so easily pushed out of view - as people naturally prefer to believe in unicorn mathematics because it "appears" to have been what enabled them to have that big-ass flat screen today.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 14:09 | 1419592 Caviar Emptor
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I see the opposite trend happening: convergence on a grand scale. The US and China have been and continue to converge as a matter of mutual survival. As China has liberalized its economy toward more free enterprise, the US has progressed toward more central planning. Other parts of the world will follow suit. 

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 15:06 | 1419778 Bob
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Interesting.  So the "communists" will mock the "capitalists" and the "capitalists" will mock the "communists" while everybody does the same thing. 

And a common slavery for the masses whatever they call it.  


Fri, 07/01/2011 - 15:27 | 1419860 falak pema
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This is precisely where we are heading : World pseudo government-true private Oligarchy. Centrally planned. Marx's nightmare, Stalin's dream! (Which just goes to show the line between marxism and fascism is paper thin!).

Sat, 07/02/2011 - 12:42 | 1421241 Ghordius
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1984 Good book Same plot you are descibing

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 20:53 | 1420607 Seer
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The religious zealots and militia types will have none of it.  Besides, it's ALL about energy, and there ain't enough energy to maintain the necessary command-and-control system.  History demonstrates that BIG = FAIL.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 14:10 | 1419594 NotApplicable
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I tend to be years early on identifying trends...

And at that point, I quit reading. I have no idea what ramifications of these trends are in this piece, but from his past articles, I'd say he's good at identifying false trends. Or at least, manufactured trends, parroting tomorrow's conventional wisdom.

For instance, he discusses delegitimizing (ok, so I skimmed the article) forces, yet makes no mention at all of the elite's primary, legitimizing counter-balance, war (or any other disaster that makes the sheeple rise up for protection).

He seems to think people are going to wake up. Like I said, he is good at identifying false trends. Those three Ds are really what will be used to put everyone into shock as the reality that everything is breaking does not fit into the herd's ideas of how it all is supposed to work.

The D he forgot about is Dependency. Upon it, all the rest are hinged.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 17:24 | 1420254 Rhodin
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The wake-up will come when the dependancy fails.  When millions of SNAP, UI, SS, SSI, and fed/mil pensioners either are not paid, or payment is worthless, many who haven't paid attention before will get angry and active.  Sure the Powerz will try war again, but it is less likely to work for them this time.

Sat, 07/02/2011 - 00:29 | 1420636 Seer
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Agree.  And TPTB's meme won't be accepted in the (not-to-distant) future because TPTB won't b able to produce it.  Again I remind people to understand the concept of economies of scale in reverse: right now everyone is passified by iPods and other idiot devices, when these are no longer affordable (over 4 billion people cannot, or will not ever, be able to possess things such as this, This is reality) people will start to see that it's all been BS..

People can scoff all they want, but the reality is is that REALITY tells us what things WILL BE like.  We need only look at historical norms: we're currently operating several deviations away from the historical norm, a feat only made possible by cheap energy [slaves].

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 19:21 | 1420440 Rhodin
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duplicate, thx Microsoft

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 14:22 | 1419639 Missiondweller
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It would be nice to see this as a series or articles as these concepts progress.

Fri, 07/01/2011 - 14:29 | 1419681 Catullus
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Deez nuts?

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