Guest Post: Tossing The Consumer Under The Bus...And Insanely Expecting An Economic Recovery

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tellsometruth's picture

TD- yes - thank you for telling some truth!

treasurefish's picture

Check this out!  I just Googled: "David J. Stockton" (you know, the guy laughing his ass off) and came up with the following link:


Double click on "Securities Investor Protection Corp," and guess whose name appears?


"Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities."  Even the dumbest, laziest, CNN-watching American knows what that means, but what, exactly, IS the relationship here, and why IS the Director of Research at the FED more associated with "illegal" Ponzi schemes than the FED itself? - Don't answer that!  I tinks me knows!

Then again, "What Is, is?"  ~ Bill Clinton, former President of the US.

David J. Stockton still has a nice photo proudly posted on the FED's website with his phone and email (, so I don't know what the dotted line is for on showing that he is supposedly no longer affiliated with the FED.  Do you know David? Time for an audit of the FED?  Time to END THE FED?  Time for:

The Ron Paul R Ξ √ Ω L U T ↑O N ~ 2012?

This dumb Neanderthal American living off debt thinks so, and so do my bankrupt friends and neighbors!  I'm certainly not accusing anyone of any wrong doing (but the FED, Herbert Hoover, Col. Edward M. House, Bernie Madoff, Adolph Hitler, Karl Marx, Nathan M. Rothchild, Satan, et al).  Just asking questions - what every patriotic American seems to be doing more and more these days.

Here's a suggested answer:  "The FED is committed to reducing unemployment and stabilizing prices."  Thanks for playing (laughter).

MayIMommaDogFace2theBananaPatch's picture

(but the FED, Herbert Hoover, Col. Edward M. House, Bernie Madoff, Nathan M. Rothchild, Satan, et al).  

That would be a damn interesting poker game.  Banzai?

dick cheneys ghost's picture

the empire has no clothes!!

goldmiddelfinger's picture

Untrue Dick Cheney's Ghost. All quail hunters wear orange!!!

cunningtrader's picture

Bottom line: Either the US slaps tariffs on all imports that threaten american jobs, or face the consequences. No if's, no buts. Then have a very painful re-adjustment/transition, (better then the alternative that is bearing down at breaknet speed), get rid of the FED, take back the printing presses. Without consumers with decent coin in their pocket(read, no 3 hours a week at Walmart being counted as a "job") there will be no recovery, EVER.

duo's picture

I told this story on Mish's comment section.

We have a customer that has a new medical product that they want  to sell in China.  In order to get license to import or sell in China, they need to give every detail, down to circuit board artwork and mechanical drawings, to the government.  I told them they were crazy to do this (after 10 years of R&D), and that clones would be on the market before their first container of good made it across the ocean.  They replied that their investors think they need the "China market" to make revenue targets.

Free trade my ass.  The US needs to speed up patent issuance, refuse to import counterfeit or infringing goods, or tariffs mean nothing.

goldmiddelfinger's picture

And ya wonder how thay got a stealth fighter.

Canadians used to import Lada's in the Soviet era. The general agreement was that if they built missiles like they built cars..we got nothing to worry about.

serotonindumptruck's picture

The Soviets/Russians have excelled at missile technology, particularly anti-ship weapon systems. Western naval forces have no known defence against Moskit/Yakhont anti-ship missiles. This class of missile is one of the primary reasons why the US/Israel has not attacked Iran yet. The Iranians are armed to the teeth with SS-N-22 Sunburn (Moskit), and quite possibly the SS-N-25 Onyx (Yakhont Chinese variant).

Sophist Economicus's picture

"This class of missile is one of the primary reasons why the US/Israel has not attacked Iran yet"


Try again....

nmewn's picture


They have the same crap Syria has. The same crap that was guarding the Syrian agriculture outpost in the middle of a desert where that well known industrial giant, North Korea, was exporting "dry cement" to.

The missile batteries were air.

And, by the way, "agriculture samples" were taken by soldiers flown in via choppers.

Deal with it russkie. ;-)

nmewn's picture

The "crap" was used as fertilizer for Operation Orchard...Boris.

serotonindumptruck's picture

I wish I knew some Russians, preferably some Russian chemists who have perfected MDMA synthesis. ;-)

nmewn's picture

Maybe I do...but don't expect me to share ;-) steaks are done, time to chow.



Sp00ky's picture

From the link:

"In accordance with a directive from Creator Source Star Fleet now defuses all nuclear weapons."

Hello?  "Creator Source Star Fleet"?


serotonindumptruck's picture

Yeah, I know, kinda odd language considering the rest of the page. Let me know when you figure out what this guy is talking about. :-)

nmewn's picture

Young went off on some "ecstasy" filled rant about the superiority of russian missile technology...I simply gave you a "real world" example of it being defeated very recently.

If you have a problem with the way I write (using metaphors & double entendres) just say so...I'll slow down for you next time...I mean, I did have a few things on the grill last night didn't I? ;-) 

serotonindumptruck's picture

I'll allow the comment indentations to be self-explanatory. You replied to a comment directed at another ZH poster, and erroneously thought that perhaps I was still speaking to you. I was not.

No harm, no foul...although your ad hominem responses and other unnecessary logical fallacies would perhaps be more humorous if you responded within the context of the conversation.


nmewn's picture got a lot to learn around here sport.

Good luck to you.

The_Dude's picture

Screw selling it in China.  If it is good technology, they will pony up for it later.  You will just have to source through an importer.


CulturalEngineer's picture

Our leaders sold out YOUR kids so THEIR kids could have brighter futures...

Unfortunately we've allowed political messaging and the technology behind it to become essentially equivalent to a constant magic trick...

Perpetual distraction while all the cards are disappearing!


Common_Cents22's picture

The good ol CCC,  stands for China Compulsory Certification.  The china industrial mark of the beast.    It's for SAFETY, lol, more like financial safety of china.   You must disclose everything about your product in order to do business in China.   You give up all your R&D.  They get it for FREE!  Businesses give it to them for free every single day.  Well played.


Unless we stand up to them we get slowly milked dry.

Stuck on Zero's picture

The same trade rules are used throughout the mercantilist nations of Asia.  They will never trade fairly.  They believe in "managed trade".  The concept of "Free Trade", like "free sex", should have faded away in the 60s.

Missiondweller's picture

No not tariffs. Call them "environmental impact fees".


If China can produce cheap crap by polluting the world with thousands of coal plants while we regulate our own energy industry, we can at least level the playing field a bit.

robobbob's picture


and don't think it'll just be limited to some multinationals imports. after that's established, they will be coming for you

global cap and tax is planned to be the cornerstone of mankinds return to serfdom

Missiondweller's picture

I'm truly surprised they haven't already done that here in California.

Ubiscious's picture

Blah blah blah. This is such a broken record. In the last 4 years I myself have heard this countless times. Is or has anything been done? No. The politicians, the establishment is NOT going to do what is in the best interest of the American Consumer. It is beyond obvious now. Yet also, parallel to this, the US consumer is not doing anything for him/herself either. Accept talking, blogging (more talking), and talking some more. That is it.

Mark Medinnus's picture

Even the Blah's are becoming ubiquitous, Ubiscious.

BTW, what's an Ubiscious?

Common_Cents22's picture


Proof you can boil more than just a frog if you do it slowly.  America voluntarily jumped into the big boiling pot voluntarily, thinking it was a hot tub party.

Spalding_Smailes's picture

Beware government's slow-motion bank robbery by inflation


Millions of pensioners and risk-averse savers in fixed interest deposits will be the biggest victims of government-sponsored inflation that amounts to a slow-motion bank robbery.

Now the real value of money – or its purchasing power – is falling at 4.8 per cent, according to the Retail Prices Index (RPI), basic rate taxpayers need a gross return of at least 6 per cent from bank or building society deposits for the net value of their savings to stand still. High earners, paying tax at 40 per cent, need a gross return of 8 per cent to match inflation as measured by RPI. Needless to say, no such risk-free returns are available; other than on ‘teaser accounts’ with strings attached and where only trivial sums can be deposited.

Even on the government’s favoured measure of inflation – the Consumer Prices Index (CPI) at 3.7 per cent, soon to be used for public sector and State pensions – most savers need a gross return of more than 4.6 per cent to match inflation, while high earners need more than 6.1 per cent. While 22 bank accounts, including 19 individual savings accounts (ISAs), can deliver real returns to basic rate taxpayers, according to independent statisticians , savers with £10,000 in the average bank account have seen the real value of their money fall by nearly £500 since January, 2008.

Louise Holmes, spokesperson for, said: “Savers who have been struggling for many months to achieve a competitive return on their funds will be severely disappointed by yet another rise in inflation.

“Over recent weeks some providers have raised easy access rates, but they are still too low to battle the effects of inflation. “Typically, cash ISAs and longer term fixed rate bonds tend to offer the best rates for savers trying to beat inflation. However, with interest rates predicted to rise by the end of the year, many investors are reluctant to lock funds away for a long period of time.”

lynnybee's picture

Yup !! that's what I've been trying to tell my best friend.   She simply does not believe that the U.S. $$$ is going to be inflated away & that all the money she saved for her retirement in her savings account will be virtually worthless.   I tried to explain to her (over 200 times) that if she does not take some of her money out of the bank & buy metal that she will find herself poverty-ridden .    Either she doesn't understand the concept or she's in that "normalcy bias."   I tried to tell her that the U.S. Government & criminal banking system is going to steal her credits in the bank account (money) that she has saved for over 40 years & SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE ME !! ..........

I can barely save myself, let alone my friends & family ........... BUT, I'M TRYING !

Spalding_Smailes's picture

It's o.k. lynnybee, this is the U.K. inflation problem - not the USA, we will not see inflation like this uncle ben shalom is very smart and would not let that happen. He can raise rates in " 15 minutes ". 


Tell your friend to buy the fucking dip in Bank of America before Friday and ride that pig for 50% until 2012.

traderjoe's picture

B of A will be nationalized in 2012. There will be a banking holiday sometime in 2011 or 2012 with the exchanges and banks closed. Good luck with your AIG, and all your other paper promises then...

I think I need to buy a gun's picture

It may not be a banking holiday it may be a dollar holiday

walküre's picture

Ben can raise rates dramatically in 15 minutes.

He will have about 5 minutes or so to jump on a plane headed for South America where he most likely has stashed his gold and silver away.

This is not the Eighties. Interest rates cannot be raised w/o increasing the speed of inflation even higher.

There is no money. There is no more money to service higher cost of debt. Nobody is buying US debt now, they sure won't buy it with the promise of 10% interest.

Game is up.


tgatliff's picture

I agree with you, at least until your last point.. Unfortunately the game is not up (yet).


I think realistically the biggest unknown is going to be the budget.  The cynical side is me says that politics are usual will happen, but if this group of new people hold strong to their convictions, I think we have a chance to finally see this thing come apart fast.  No doubt it will be extremely painful, but hopefully from there we can starting building a sustainable system again...

Dollar Bill Hiccup's picture

The Wonderous and Mysterious Hu said he is not worried about inflation and can also take care of it easily. My question there would be not what, but Wen.

traderjoe's picture

I've heard you mention a couple of times that no one believes you and they are all abandoning you. Why do you try to explain something to someone 200 times? It's their life. Let them live it. They will prepare or not prepare according to their own desires. No one wants to be around a broken record. 

As I understand it, one of the key principles of Buddhism is to not judge another's path to Enlightenment. 

For me, I'm preparing. It makes me feel safer and calmer. I do not concern myself with the preparations of others. I do not know what will happen. I am not certain. Only preparing. 

breezer1's picture

i get the treatment too. lately i only get strange looks from my wife as she sees my predictions come true. i get my predictions from ZH and bill buckler and others and i forward articles like this one. 

i'm not a doom and gloomer, but when 2+2 = 4 then whats to do but prepare.

God bless us one and all.


Hephasteus's picture

Hey lynnybee. Be sure and tell spalding exactly what you think of his advice. It should be good.

fijisailor's picture

You had my attention until Social Security was classified as a liability.  How can something the average taxpayer pays for their entire life be a liability or an "entitlement"?

theopco's picture

It could be considered a liability if they actually spent all the money in the fund, replacing it with non-negotiable markers for treasuries that were as yet unissued.


I could see calling that a liability

ATrillionSavedIsATrillionEarned's picture

At least they still consider it a liability!

I would call it an obligation,

even if they manage to steal it.