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Guest Post: The United States Of Organized Financial Crime - "If the Fraud Stops, The Financial System Collapses"

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Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:18 | 858827 cossack55
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Law & Order Bitchez!!!!




My first Bitchez comment. Can I now no longer be considered a cherry boy?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:32 | 859387 FullFaithAndCretin
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There. Have a junk.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:58 | 860931 Dr. Sandi
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Oooze, oooze, ouch.


There, you're now part of the _____ Bitchez! cadre!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:22 | 858830 the mad hatter
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More on bankers as fuctional parasites, living off of the hard work of the common man:

"Fractional Reserve Banking as Economic Parasitism"

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:56 | 858933 Stevm30
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Fractional reserve banking is inherently bankrupt.  At it's root it means loaning out money that the bankers DON'T HAVE.  Modern banking is nothing without the fist of government backing it up.  Bankers are parasitical.  No this is not a metaphor.  They cannot survive without taking from the average citizen.  Time to get the truth out.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 15:00 | 858954 Shylockracy
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Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:36 | 859403 I need more cowbell
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This should go viral; help out if you agree.



Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:21 | 858832 LawsofPhysics
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Tyler, you are stating the obvious again.  So long it is legal, people will keep doing it, the genie (a.k.a. the moral hazard) has been unleashed for some time now.  Younger folks thinking about their futures don't want to be engineers and scientists or create things of real value (or contractors for that matter), they want to learn how to play the game and get rich.  Nothing short of citizens exercising their second amendment rights will put the genie back.  People would have to get off their couch and "risk" being injured and you and I both know the average American is too lazy or scared for that to happen.  Moreover, they would get a real lesson in precisely what "wealth" and "value" really mean.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 15:28 | 859097 topcallingtroll
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I have to agree the average american is too lazy and risk averse to do anything if they might get an ouchie.  I once heard someone say that "those islands of wealth" will be targeted and easily taken.  I think it is possible that you could easily target the first few islands of wealth, but they will quickly organize.  Then those islands of wealth will be targeting you.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:26 | 860852 JLee2027
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I have to agree the average american is too lazy and risk averse to do anything if they might get an ouchie.

Congratulations. You two get the "I am really stupid" daily award.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:27 | 859964 Artful Dodger
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Tyler didn't write the article. With the number of contributors here and the varying obviousness of attribution, well it's worth paying attention to who the author is.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:24 | 858840 Alex Kintner
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Fredo can't take you to Las Vegas today. He's going fishing.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:56 | 858930 Wynn
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I never understood why Michael whacked Fredo. He was a dimwit, taken advantage of by the powerful money guys ... kinda like 99% of Americans today.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:28 | 859369 flattrader
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You are clearly not Sicillian, are you?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:26 | 858844 USD Long
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There may be room for a sliver of optimism with yesterdays mortgage fraud related rulings, ...nevermind, it would require opening far too many windows and doors into the fraudsters' dealings.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:28 | 858849 subqtaneous
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Put a lid on the debt ceiling like you promised, boyz and girlz.  Bring on the tanks and martial law . . . . or was that just more prattle?

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:30 | 858853 Thanatos
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"Americans love to see street criminals and petty gangsters brough to "justice," but we turn a blind eye to organized financial crime. Why is this so? Is it just that systemic financial fraud is not very dramatic? Is it that financial forensics are so boring compared to a decomposing corpse?"

The psychology behind this issue is something that is fully perfused in our society and I will sum it up quickly:


If you are you rich you "must be doing something right".

If you are rich, we are not angry we want to be rich too... If you are a gangster, that is great, we will emulate you if it makes us rich.

It's called GREED, GREED and more fucking GREED.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:42 | 858884 Alex Kintner
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It's no mistake that colleges now fart out more far more MBAs than engineers. Americans listened to Gordon Gecko and decided that indeed "Greed is Good."  This will not end well.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:47 | 858905 equity_momo
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Thats about the sum of it yes.  Fear and Greed : greed is by far the stronger force.  And the thing the average American fears most is being left behind financially , which is a feedback loop into greed.

Hail ponzi.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 15:32 | 859111 Gigliola Cinquetti
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No , it goes deeper than that ,  following  this (perverted and  twisted) ethic  logic

If you are rich , God must love you , so you must be a good guy .

If you are poor , the Big One obviously hates your guts , so you must be a bad guy .

Swear to God , heard that argument being used , more than a few times .

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:53 | 860913 JustACitizen
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It's just a little "twisting" of the original "Protestant Work Ethic". If you work hard and live a frugal life (whilst obeying God) you will be blessed. The blessing will be apparent since you now have money (capital).


The current interpretation is "if you have money you are one of God's chosen" - regardless of how you got the money or the life you lead. It's pretty shallow stuff - but what do you expect nowadays? IMO - there's gonna be some big disappointments at the pearly gates though!

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:12 | 859149 Troy Ounce
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If you are rich you cannot be wrong


Thanatos, you're 100% right. A month ago I was sitting next to an American in an airplane and complaining about the fact thet 44% of the American Congress members are milionaires. I mean, should a parliament not be representive of a country? Not according to him, his thinking was that only rich people can do a good job and lead a country.

Alan de Botton wrote about this: the US is a meritocracy, the winner takes it all; the loser stands in awe at what happened as he lost the game of getting rich and goes into a depression. Rather a depression and misery than objecting against fraud, embezzlement as everybody knows how the game is being played: the winner takes all; the loser eats humble pie.










Sun, 01/09/2011 - 08:14 | 861496 Chappaquiddick
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Alan de Botton - an excellent chap and good egg all round - his book "Status Anxiety" covers much of this and hints at the deeper forces being welded on an unsuspecting public.  Of course thanks to the internet the number of folks walking through the veil of misinformation to see the disturbing truth it conceals, is growing daily.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 17:22 | 862430 PD Quig
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There has also been a concerted effort to make difficult to understand that which is really fairly simple: the Fed is a private entity that is owned by the big banks that allows the banks to create money out of noting more than electrons. Then, the U.S. Government borrows the money from the banks at much higher interest rates. The banks make ridiculous amounts of money that goes into paying bonuses and contributing to politicians campaign chests. The politicians grease the laws for the banks and ensure that if anything goes wrong that the U.S. taxpayer will pick up the tab.

Not one American in one thousand understand this process because the transactions and terminology are kept as arcane as possible.


Mon, 01/10/2011 - 22:02 | 865944 TDoS
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Very true.  People don't associate the concept of success with health, family, or happiness; they equate it with financial gain, regardless of source or method.

Not to mention, the fourth premise of Derrick Jensen's "Endgame:" 

Premise Four: Civilization is based on a clearly defined and widely accepted yet often unarticulated hierarchy. Violence done by those higher on the hierarchy to those lower is nearly always invisible, that is, unnoticed. When it is noticed, it is fully rationalized. Violence done by those lower on the hierarchy to those higher is unthinkable, and when it does occur is regarded with shock, horror, and the fetishization of the victims.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:42 | 858873 brodix
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Capital is subject to the law of supply and demand. In a society where "everyone wants theirs," the only way to maintain the desired level of supply is to create artificial demand, ie, bad loans, synthetic securities, derivatives, etc. Capital is worthless without viable demand, but they have spent the last forty years creating enormous piles of capital, while stripping the borrowers at every possible opportunity.

Capital is like seed and borrowers are like the field. If you never put any fertilizer on it and just keep harvesting as much as possible, eventually it all dries up. Welcome to reality.

The rat race has reached the finish line and the finish line is a cliff.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:38 | 858876 guidoamm
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Fraud is not happening because of greed. At least not directly. Fraud is built into the monetary system.

Of all human dynamics, the monetary system is the one single dynamic that frames all others. The monetary system is the ultimate driver of all social and economic dynamics.

Debt based fiat money is predicated on inflation. However, inflation is a dynamic that conforms to the law of diminishing marginal utility. This being the case, you always need more inflation in order to obtain the same economic result.

Conforming to the law of diminishing marginal utility, inflation has real mathematical limits.

In order to overcome these mathematical limits, government must progressively intervene in the economy at ever growing degrees till eventually it becomes the largest actor in the economy.

Being the largest actor in the economy necessarily results in policy aberrations as the government must simultaneously place itself above the law and modify the law in an attempt at maintaining a positive inflatioanry trajectory. This can only be achieved by disregarding or, at least, interpreting the law to your advantage, and ensuring preferential and legal treatement for those entities that have critical political and economic weight to assist you in this endeavor.


Sat, 01/08/2011 - 15:16 | 858979 harveywalbinger
Sun, 01/09/2011 - 00:43 | 861041 RockyRacoon
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Succinct, aren't you?  It appears you have won the kewpie doll.

Your comments are on the mark as an explanation of the mechanics of institutionalized and legalized greed and looting.

There isn't much difference in the breaking of plate glass shop windows in Watts and running away with the TVs and the confiscation of 401Ks is there?  I suppose the perps guilty of the latter wear nicer attire.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 14:44 | 858893 williambanzai7
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Sat, 01/08/2011 - 23:21 | 860846 Trifecta Man
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A sucker born every second.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 02:39 | 861239 Dr. Sandi
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Thank you for the visual, liambanz!

The picture doesn't scare me as much as it should though. But I like the suit. Has that Ricky Ricardo moire effect.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 15:12 | 859012 Yardfarmer
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much like what Will Rogers said of politics: "if you inject truth into politics, then you have no politics"

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 15:12 | 859016 Gigliola Cinquetti
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Remove all narco money laundring and you loose already a trillion a year .

War on drugs bitchez !

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:15 | 861259 Dr. Sandi
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We know they're laundering a shit-load of narco money. But what I REALLY want to know is where it goes when it's dry.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 15:21 | 859038 topcallingtroll
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I hate to be such a troll but fraud schmaud.   Is it not now and has it not always been caveat emptor?  Even stupid ol me knew to stay away from mbs and other exotica.  A fool and his money are soon parted.   It takes a fool to think we can "certify" investments as "high quality" so that people who have no financial sense can blindly buy.  I'll bet half the investors out there don't know the difference between a buy side analyst and a sell side analyst.  In fact once when I used a live broker at my cheapo brokerage to make a trade he asked me if I wanted a limit order or a market order, then he paused and asked "do you know what that means?"  If there are people out there who don't know the difference between speculation and investment and who have to be told the difference between a market order and a limit order then they are guaranteed to lose their money, fraud or no fraud, especially if they listen to sell side analysts  and don't know which "side" they are on.  All the rating agencies were essentially sell side analysts, so what did anyone expect?  Human nature is what it is and no amount of certifying and stamping triple A on something should substitute for one's own judgment.  People whining about fraud should not have been in the market.  if a person can't tell the difference between a beautiful chic and a pig with lipstick, then that person is  going to get covered in disgusting hog slobber, among other things.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 17:45 | 859753 mouser98
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the problem is not people like you getting ripped off.  its when pension fund managers, who have large sums of money that they must invest to protect it against the persistent inflation of fiat currency, but who are not educated or experienced enough to recognize a pig when they see it, and have to rely on the advice of "experts" (read con-men) and the ratings agencies (read get-away-drivers).  these people are forced to swim in a pool full of sharks where they have no business and are easy pickings.  they just don't realize how they are being set up because they believe that Uncle Sugar is protecting them vis-a-vis the SEC.  thats what makes it fraud.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 05:10 | 861345 ViewfromUnderth...
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USA either has Rule of Law or not...

An excellent expose is "Fooling Some of the People (All of the Time)" by David Einhorn. It tracks his battle against those who think like you, Troll. He won.

Do not give up, demand legal accountability. This is why there is the Separation of Powers....the wheels of justice grind slow...but exceedingly fine. Crush 'em all. Demand it.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 15:31 | 859109 buzlightening
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Yep! The bankster gangsters and corrupt politicians have created the weapons by which the vermin destroy themselves!! Fight the outer financial circumstances all you want but until the heart is changed from corruption to incorruption the end comes swiftly!!!! Saw it coming right off as it is the nature of most all men to immediately exercise unrighteous dominion whenever they receive power as they suppose!! 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 15:48 | 859185 spinone
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I've been playing with the idea that the fraud was not 'pushed' into the economy, but the demand for dollars 'pulled' it out of the economy, since we offshored much of our real productive capacity.  The demand for dollars is because of the Triffin Dilemma of the USD being the WRC. So either we re-constitute our productive capactity (not likely for a number of monetary reasons) or the USD is no longer WRC, and the demand pull can stop, ending the fraud.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:37 | 859407 flattrader
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A topic of discussion worth kicking around for a while.

Oddly, with the exeption of myself, you can hear the crickets chirping.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:54 | 859486 spinone
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Chirp chirp.

This would have to be done with the acceptance of the other countries that use USD as WRC.  They use it cause it works, we keep making USD even if we need to condone fraud because we need it for oil.  Looks like we reached peak oil, so this arrangement is only needed for a little bit longer. 

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 18:21 | 859934 flattrader
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It's not clear to me yet that Peak Oil has come and gone or how long a little bit longer could be...


It IS clear China and Russia are taking matters into their own hands where direct trade is an issue.

That's smart of them.

There's been a certain lack of reaction/analysis from the US financial press regarding this arrangement that I find suspicious.

It's as if we ignore it, we can pretend it didn't happen.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 15:57 | 859221 jmc8888
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Wow he only figured this out recently.

Who here who reads ZH didn't think this way even a year ago? two? 10?

This is have been glaringly obvious to everyone with a brain for a very, very, very, long time.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 01:00 | 861070 RockyRacoon
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So, it is solutions we need, not reiteration of the problem.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 02:40 | 861243 Dr. Sandi
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Problems, we've got plenty of.

Solutions, now those will cost extra.

Sun, 01/09/2011 - 07:27 | 861454 w a l k - a w a y
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Mon, 01/10/2011 - 23:51 | 866216 Dr. Sandi
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Arggh. Where do you get the é character from? I always want to use the correct letters when I know better, but my keyboard stops at 26.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 16:32 | 859388 flattrader
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Big Yawn.  Nothing new here.

Not even a link to another article/essay (that is not your own) this time around.

Usually you manage to link to something with some real analysis.

Do someting useful and develop a new recipe or something.

Sat, 01/08/2011 - 20:27 | 860384 Misean
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Too many of y'all are here preaching to the choir. Why does J6P and wifey allow this?

Ask them...go ahead.  They'll hear the question and look at you like you're from Gallifrey.  And if they do have an inkling, they'll change the subject, so institutionalized are the people. The elite have nearly full spectrum control, and until that cracks, they go scott free.

I'm going back to watching the playoffs.  Can't believe the Seahawks are in the lead...

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