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Guest Post: V for Vendetta - 2011
Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform
V for Vendetta - 2011
After the horrific mass murder in Tucson
yesterday I had trouble sleeping last night. When my mind gets
overloaded, I can’t sleep. I came downstairs at 3:30 am and for some
reason decided now was the time to watch the movie V For Vendetta.
Many people had recommended this movie over the years, but I had never
gotten around to it. Well, on the day after the attempted assassination
of a Congresswoman and murder of six others, including a Federal Judge,
this movie provided a vision into what could happen next in this
country.
The 2006 movie centers around a man wearing
a Guy Fawkes mask who refers to himself as V. He is a bold,
charismatic freedom fighter driven to exact revenge on those who
disfigured him. The film is an allegory of oppression and coercion by
government. It is a declaration against government intervention into the
lives of the citizens. He blows up the Old Bailey on November 5, Guy
Fawkes Day. He promises to blow up Parliament one year later on the 5th
of November. His speech at the beginning of the movie, broadcast to all
of England, explains what happened in a fictional England and what is
happening here:
“Good evening, London.
Allow me first to apologize, for this interruption. I do, like
many of you, appreciate the comforts of everyday routine, the security,
the familiar, the tranquility, repetition… I enjoy them as much as any
bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, whereby those important
events of the past, usually associated with someone’s death or the end
of some awful, bloody struggle, are celebrated with a nice holiday, I
thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is certainly no
longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit
down and have a little chat.There are, of course, those who do not want us to speak. I think
that even now orders are been shouted into telephones and men with guns
will soon be on their way. Why? Because when the truncheon maybe used in
lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer
the means to meaning, and for those who would listen, the enunciation
of the truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with
this country, isn’t there?Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression, and where once
you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you
now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity
and soliciting your submission? How did this happen? Who’s to blame?
Well certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and
they will be held accountable, but again, truth be told, if you’re
looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.I know why you did it. I know you were afraid! Who wouldn’t be?
War, terror, disease… There were a myriad problems that conspired to
corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best
of you, and in your panic, you turned to the now High Chancellor, Adam
Suttler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he
demanded in return was your silent, obedient, consent.Last night, I sought to end that silence. Last night, I destroyed
the Old Bailey to remind this country of what it has forgotten. More
than 400 years ago, a great citizen wished to embed the 5th of November
forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness,
justice and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives. So if
you’ve seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to
you, then, I would suggest you allow the 5th of November to pass
unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you
would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me, one year from
tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give
them a 5th of November that shall never, ever, be forgot.”
The movie’s central theme revolves around
the 1605 Gunpowder Plot to blow up Parliament. The plot was a failed
assassination attempt against King James I of England by a group of
provincial English Catholics led by Robert Catesby. The plan was to blow
up the House of Lords during the State Opening of Parliament on
November 5, 1605, as the prelude to a popular revolt in the Midlands
during which James’s nine-year-old daughter, Princess Elizabeth, was to
be installed as the Catholic head of state.
Guy Fawkes, who had 10 years of military experience fighting in the
Spanish Netherlands in suppression of the Dutch Revolt, was given charge
of the explosives. The plot was revealed to the authorities in an
anonymous letter sent to William Parker, 4th Baron Monteagle. During a
search of the House of Lords at about midnight on November 4, 1605,
Fawkes was discovered guarding 36 barrels of gunpowder – enough to
reduce the House of Lords to rubble – and arrested. He was hanged
shortly thereafter. November the 5th has been celebrated ever since this
event with celebrations and fireworks.
Anarchy Has Arrived
There’s no certainty – only opportunity. V - V For Vendetta
As I watched hour after hour of coverage about the ambush and
assassination attempt on a Congresswoman from Arizona, I couldn’t help
but think this could be the spark for something bigger. There
were almost immediate reactions from the MSM that this murder was
instigated by the Tea Party. The liberal ideologue Paul Krugman blamed
the Republican Party for the murders. Apoplectic left wing faux
journalist Keith Olbermann described conservative commentators as
those ”who have so irresponsibly brought us to this time of domestic
terrorism”. The local sheriff, an Arizona State Senator and the
Congresswoman’s father all blamed the Tea Party, either directly or
indirectly. Based on my reading of the murderer’s writings and youtubes,
he appears to be a mentally deranged psycho. Somehow, every liberal MSM
“journalist” has concluded that this was due to the contentious
political atmosphere in the country. This is code for “we need less
dissent”. Stop disagreeing with the Obama agenda. If you disagree, you
are dangerous.
The scene in the movie that made me think of yesterday’s events was
toward the end of the movie when Inspector Finch, who is trying to
capture V, has a feeling about what is going to happen:
Finch: I had to see it. There wasn’t much left.
But when I was there it was strange. I suddenly had this feeling that
everything was connected. It’s like I could see the whole thing, one
long chain of events that stretched all the way back before Larkhill. I
felt like I could see everything that happened, and everything that is
going to happen. It was like a perfect pattern, laid out in front of me.
And I realized we’re all part of it, and all trapped by it.
Dominic: So do you know what’s gonna happen?
Finch: No, it was a feeling. But I can guess.
With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid. And when they do,
things will turn nasty. And then Sutler will be forced to do the only
thing he knows how to do. At which point, all V needs to do is keep his
word. And then…
[Dominoes collapse with TV footages showing conflicts between rioting citizens and the anti-riot police]
The line that hit me like a ton of bricks was, “With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid.” As
Inspector Finch was speaking these words a scene of a policeman
shooting a 10 year old girl with a Guy Fawkes Mask on is shown and then
an angry mob surrounds and kill the policeman.
Yesterday, someone did something stupid. The question is what happens next.
Already, a fringe religious fanatic pastor and his followers, who
have previously picketed the military funerals of Americans killed in
Iraq, issued this press release:
”Thank God for the shooter – 6 dead! WBC will picket their
funerals!” It continues on to condemn what it condemns as violence
unleashed on WBC by a “hateful nation…hoping to silence our kind warning
to obey God and flee the wrath to come.”
There is one thing I’m sure about. This will not result in more civil
discourse. Opposing ideologies will become further entrenched in their
positions. Those who attempt to be peacemakers will be shouted down.
Passions will rise as they did in the 1850s when another member of
Congress was badly injured as national passions flamed over slavery. On
May 19, 1856, Senator Charles Sumner of Massachusetts, a prominent
voice in the anti-slavery movement, delivered an impassioned speech
denouncing the compromises that helped perpetuate slavery and led to
confrontations in Kansas. Sumner singled out Senator Andrew Pickens
Butler of South Carolina. Butler, who had recently been incapacitated by
a stroke and was recuperating in South Carolina, was held to particular
ridicule by Sumner. Sumner said that Butler had taken as his mistress
“the harlot, slavery.” Sumner also referred to the South as an immoral
place for allowing slavery, and he mocked South Carolina.
Preston Brooks, a member of the House of Representatives from South
Carolina, was particularly incensed. Not only had the fiery Sumner
ridiculed his home state, but Brooks was the nephew of Andrew Butler,
one of Sumner’s targets. Brooks walked to Sumner’s desk in the Senate
chamber, and reportedly said: “You have libeled my state and slandered
my relation, who is aged and absent. And I feel it to be my duty to
punish you.” With that, Brooks struck the seated Sumner across the head
with his heavy cane. Brooks continued raining blows with the cane upon
Sumner, who tried to fend them off with his arms. As might be expected,
northern newspapers responded to the violent attack on the Senate floor
with horror. Southern newspapers published editorials lauding Brooks,
claiming that the attack was a justified defense of the south and
slavery. Supporters sent Brooks new canes, and Brooks claimed that
people wanted pieces of the cane he used to beat Sumner as “holy
relics.”
This attack was a foreshadowing of what was to come – the deaths of
600,000 Americans in the space of four years – over 4% of the male
population. Yesterday’s tragedy is another step deeper into this Fourth Turning.
Every Fourth Turning has proven to be a decisive era of secular
upheaval, when the values regime propels the replacement of the old
civic order with a new one.
Words Matter, Ideas Can Change the World
People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people. V – V For Vendetta
The prior Fourth Turnings in U.S. history (American Revolution, Civil
War, Great Depression/World War II) all proved to be secular upheavals
of immense proportions, tore apart the existing civil order, but
had numerous moments of danger and uncertainty about the future turn of
events. We are six years into a twenty year Crisis saeculum. Every
Crisis intensifies as time progresses to an ultimate crescendo. The
initial financial crisis built to a dramatic peak in September 2008 as
the government and Federal Reserve have taken extraordinary and immoral
actions to protect Wall Street banks. Since September 11, 2001, the
government has used fear as its primary means of controlling the
American population. Fear of terrorists, fear of flying, fear of WMD,
fear of mushroom clouds, fear of the axis of evil, fear of economic
collapse, fear of a Great Depression, and now fear of the Tea Party
movement. This attack by a crazy man will lead to further losses of
liberties and freedoms. That is a certainty.
Americans have been lulled into a false sense of security. V’s speech to the people of England invokes Ben Franklin:
“I know why you did it. I know you
were afraid! Who wouldn’t be? War, terror, disease… There were a myriad
problems that conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your
common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic, you turned to
the now High Chancellor, Adam Suttler. He promised you order, he
promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent,
obedient, consent.” - V - V For Vendetta
Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
- Ben Franklin
This country has not reached the level of control and fear seen in Orwell’s 1984 and V For Vendetta, yet.
We are moving relentlessly in that direction. Surveillance, monitoring,
spying, censorship, secret prisons, predator drones, and conforming to
state rules and regulations put citizens further under the thumb of an
all powerful state. The freedom to dissent, the freedom to be left
alone, the freedom to speak out against injustice, the freedom to
disagree with your government, and the freedom to present your ideas
without fear of retribution or penalty are essential in a democratic
society. The next phase of this Fourth Turning will surely include
another downward spiral in financial markets as un-payable debts
accumulate to a tipping point level. When ATM machines stop spitting out
twenties, food shelves are bare and gas stations are shuttered, social
chaos will ensue. The government will react with further command and
control measures. In V For Vendetta, the government
creates a terrorist incident in order to gain unquestioned control over
the population. Americans will need to be more vigilant than they have
been over the last ten years in keeping an eye on their government.
In the movie, Parliament is the symbol of government power. The
thought of destroying this symbol provided the people with a renewed
sense of purpose and power. By V’s destruction of the building, the
people regained their hope for the future. The symbol of America is the
Statue of Liberty. The pedestal at the base of the statue states:
“Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The idea of America is still alive. Whether it is kept alive is up to us. Words matter. Ideas can change the world.
”I know of no reason why the Gunpowder Treason should ever be
forgot… But what of the man? I know his name was Guy Fawkes and I know,
in 1605, he attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament. But who was
he really? What was he like? We are told to remember the idea, not the
man, because a man can fail. He can be caught, he can be killed and
forgotten, but 400 years later, an idea can still change the world. I’ve
witnessed first hand the power of ideas, I’ve seen people kill in the
name of them, and die defending them… but you cannot kiss an idea,
cannot touch it, or hold it… ideas do not bleed, they do not feel pain,
they do not love… And it is not an idea that I miss, it is a man… A man
that made me remember the Fifth of November. A man that I will never
forget.” – Evey Hammond – V For Vendetta
THE IDEA OF AMERICA – THE CHOICE IS OURS
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Maybe. But not without serious effort:
http://www.truth-out.org/first-your-shoes-next-your-dna-elliot-cohen-how...
Nice missive. Made some good points.
But you are going to tell me this guy watched this movie at 3:30 am and then penned this?
Sorry, ain't buying that. Guy needed a good allegory for his story, and V was it.
If you are going to try and use emotion as the basis for a story, at least make it real.
pods
You don't have to buy it, but it is the truth.
You would not know TRUTH even if it bit you in your Fat Ass.
Why should outrage wait until real conditions approach those of fiction?
Great movie, and a great review from only watching it once. I've seen it 8 times, at least.
From KWN...
"David Einhorn - Federal Reserve’s Policies are Quite Dangerous" - http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2011/1/10_David_Einhorn_-_Federal_Reserves_Policies_are_Quite_Dangerous.html
Movement
@GATA Ron Paul: We should legalize competing currencies and Fed "Independence" only means unaccountability.
Careful, thems is fightin' words Ron...
MFM?
"The American people don't like being lied to, or lied about" -- Townhall Protestor. An elderly female in a wheelchair to the Honorable Arlen Spector, former Senior Senator from Pennsylvania.
REALLY?
I had some right-wing moron send me e-mail with some ficticious military crap in it that was easily debunked. His response to my pointing out it was a LIE? Didn't matter!
I spent years fighting against the illegal wars in the Middle East. Did people care that it was all based on LIES? NO!
The scene that you present was for political play only. Hypocrites, fucking hypocrites!
Guy Fawkes was a freedom fighter. The Engligh elites needed to be brought down a few pegs, but the gunpowder plot was but a point on a continium. I like Guy Fawkes day better than Halloween which is a later copy and which makes taking sweets from strangers (but not the fireworks) accessible to foreigners.
excuse me but...really what a load of bs this article is...
+1
+1
a banzai classic but what do it mean?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wkgIzuqJM0w/TNa5MhluGJI/AAAAAAAAHEw/z_wBsL-MxM...
...or a schizophrenic lunatic who's obsession with his subject since 2007 (prior to "tea-party" popularity) went off and murdered a congresswoman, not because of any political reasons, but because he wasn't satisfied with an answer she gave at a meet-n-greet, 3 years ago. This isn't "V for Vendetta", this is Mark David Chapman.
Agreed Ham.
This is "S" for stupid, schizophrenic, (p)sychotic...pick one.
And of course then there's the ZHers claiming it was false flag op.
I spent some time in LE. Sometimes stupid crazy shit happens. Dealt with my fair share of the mentally ill on the street.
You just do your best to clean up the mess because there ain't no explaining it in any way that makes sense.
You're right, sometimes stupid crazy shit happens. But it'll get spun politically and a bunch of laws passed to make stupid crazy shit illegal and a terrorist activity.
What really gets the central planners cum scrutinizers is the unpredictable - it just fucking pisses them off to no end.
Now the real conflict begins........A culture who believes that the rights of the individual always come first is opposed by those who believe the will of the people is supreme. The result will surely be civil war and anarchy!
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” Thomas Jefferson
The conflict is for the hearts and minds of the people. The elites of any country are a tiny minority, and they only rule and take advantage of the great mass of people for as long as they can fool the people that such is the natural order of things. The increasing frequency, scope and quality of the infringements on our rights is opening the eyes of the people - and the elites' days are thus numbered.
I've said this already, but it sticks in my mind because a lot of Americans, I think, have grown wary of the 9/11 rhetoric as justification for the security clampdowns. Now we have the girl victim born on 9/11, how perfect is that? You can't make this stuff up. Judging by the way they keep talking about her, I'm thinking they'll fly her up the flag pole, throw some red, white & blue at her and there you have America's latest patriotic martyr.
When Giffords recovers, to whatever degree she does, I can already picture the media blitz as she makes her pilgrimmage to the little girl's grave to place tokens upon it. Bread and circuses. You can't make this up. It will make for a great distraction, and justification for the increased measures against the new threat, domestic terrorists (pissed off citizens).
+1000
dusting off s1959 anyday now
The government isn't the root problem. It's the plutocracy. Think of the Congress as guard dogs at the gate of some compound in Martha's Vineyard. Do anything to them and they just get replaced by another set of curs.
It's the hyper-wealthy who deserve a visit to the Old Bailey. Whether their dogs come with them matters not.
some things never change
November 27, 1963
...Within a matter of minutes, nationally known radio and television commentators had started in, suggesting that the assassination had been the work of a right wing extremist, and recalling that it was also in ...
http://bit.ly/gEtPFS
Well, it was the work of the banksters.
Have to admit it, the majority of high-profile murders were of those of the (more) "liberal" types. Figure it out...
you had me @ As I watched hour after hour of coverage about the ambush and assassination attempt on a Congresswoman from Arizona
then you lost me.
usually like your reads, but if you spent hours and hours watching this coverage, your an idiot†
That was a worthwhile post. Too lazy to use capitals. We're doomed with the likes of yourself wandering the streets.
SmokeyQuinn:
So you got your foul mouthed self banned from Naked Capitalism.
"Yves Smith had published a couple of my articles on her site. Her readers were outraged by my articles. As is my motto, I responded to every slur hurled my way. It got quite testy and nasty. The commentors complained to Yves that I wasn’t being civil.
I just tried to post a comment on her article and it appears she has a pulled me. My IP address is banned."
Aw… what the matter? That put the little man in a bad mood?
You big baby!
You might want to grow up.
The FatAss keeps his bully pulpit bestiality blog DavidPierre-free.
Then you whine and cry and belly ache because someone bans your IP.
You crack me up … You’re just blubbering ‘cognitive dissonance’ out of both sides of your mouth.
Whip those liver lips and double chins... you are slobbering again.
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Today is the 2059th anniversary of Ceasar… CROSSING THE RUBICON.
Do some serious reading instead of that hollow ’4th Turding’ bullshit …
Read Michael Ruppert’s book instead of that 8th grade Pop-Fiction you are so addicted to.
Dick Cheney was the acting Commander in Chief on 9/11.
Dick Cheney was well aware of the coming Peak Oil crisis at least as early as 1999, and 9/11 provided the pretext for the series of energy wars that Cheney stated, “will not end in our lifetime.
The war games & terror drills played a critical role in ensuring no Air Force fighter jocks – who had trained their entire lives for this moment – would be able to prevent the attacks from succeeding. These exercises were under Dick Cheney’s management.
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simplify_case.shtml
Read all about Dick.
I know how much you love Dick.
Smell you later… MORON !
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/158721.html
3000 tons of munitions dropped on gaza during gaza war 2008. It is beyond comprehension.
Quinn could be on to something as my jaw dropped watching the local news (today at 4;00 in KC)-as the main topic was the shooting in Arizona--the leade premis of the news--
HOW TO RECOGNIZE PROBLEMS/STRANGE BEHAVIOR WITH YOUR CO_WORKERS and emphasised do not be a hero just call the authorities.
1984 is here.
"and emphasised do not be a hero just call the authorities."
Right.
Exactly...you see only authorities can talk someone off the ledge...it wasn't really a 74yr. veteran who tackled a lunatic to the ground in Tucson & held him there for authorities...it wasn't really a medical intern who used a clean butchers smock to try and staunch the bleeding while waiting for authorities...it wasn't really US Rep.Clyburn saying reading the Constitution at the opening of Congress bore some responsibility to this violent act...that was not really former Senator Bob Kerry saying;
"Tomorrow they were going to vote to repeal this health care bill — and it’s not going to go anywhere in the Senate — it’s one of the reasons that this guy was angry and pretty obvious that he is, at least from me, where I sit that he’s mentally ill and deeply troubled."
Those were not really DLC & DCCC maps irresponsibly showing targeted Congressional districts...that was not a Nobel Prize "whiner" vomiting his bile across the nation barely an hour afterwards...these are not calls for less free speech, less freedom for all after this act by a madman.
It's all an authoritative illusion.
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=20406
The transformation of reality to illusion has been complete for the half that does not know what is in the tent---the other half understand--will it be enough is my ?
I for one will not live an illusion.
I smell MADNESS all around
"I for one will not live an illusion."
LOL...neither do I.
They can spew, twist, turn...say day is night and night is day but it doesn't make it so.
"for the half that does not know what is in the tent"
You will note, the other half either doesn't know what was in the tent...or ashamed to say what was in the tent ;-)
yep, it doesn't smell good
Politician's code for "You can't please everyone."
Rule of Democracy:
It is probably unwise to assume pleasing a majority will protect you when you are confronted by just the one you cannot please.
Rule of Fascism:
It is definitely unwise to assume the few whom you please will protect you when you are confronted by the displeased majority.
Plan accordingly.
Many many human traits have a genetic component, why not risk taking and tendancy towards being a sheeple?
If there is any genetic component to risk taking and/or intollerance to government opression
Americans of European origin would have this in much higher concentration than current Europeans.
Prior to 1900 leaving Europe to come to America was a one way trip and a big risk.
If you were not at heart a risktaker you probably did not take the risk.
I postulate that is why ADHD type behavior is much more prevalant in America because of this.
ADHD behavior has been shown to have a genetic component.
Something like the hunter Farm theory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_vs._farmer_theory
A comedian, Bill Engvall (or maybe Gallegher) I think, had an observation on how geography influenced the difference in attitudes between say Coloradans and Californians, both settlers through western pioneer migration. Coloradans were defined by their reluctance to cross the Rockies, where as Californians refused to be stopped, so much so that when they reached the Pacific ocean they built piers so as to keep going westward. Of course, we know historically, gold and water played an important part in determining where early western pioneers chose to settle in Colorado and California.
Opinion before fact? Pickanosetradamus. Using jingo to appoint a straw man to justify conclusions does not provide support to them. But then, I am but a fish.
The US is well on its way to being the fascist dystopia depicted in the movie, with big business (particularly Wall St.) having captured most branches of government (and regulators.) Too many people just interested in "getting theirs" and not the whole. Here's hoping that when the trodden upon classes finally have had enough, change will come through the electoral process, rather than violence led by fear of trumped up bogeymen.
WTF, just keep adding to my supply of guns,ammo,gold,silver,fuel,food and water.
Reading the post to this article brings to mind the concept of "Group Think".
“A mode of thinking that people engage in when they are deeply involved in a cohesive in-group, when the members' strivings for unanimity override their motivation to realistically appraise alternative courses of action”.[1].
The Tea Party express themselves in a thoughtless and inflammatory manner. A young man, more than likely suffering from some form of mental illness, interpreted the inflammatory rhetoric as "permission" and/or encouragement/acceptance by society to inflect real harm... with a gun. The consequences were devastating to many....
Many people over the period of several years have pointed out that "inflammatory rhetoric" of the type being used by the Tea Party is counterproductive and can result in devastating consequences....
There has been a lot of discussion about "moral hazard" on this web site,
Moral hazard arises because an individual or institution does not take the full consequences and responsibilities of its actions, and therefore has a tendency to act less carefully than it otherwise would, leaving another party to hold some responsibility for the consequences of those actions.
Words do indeed have consequences. Is it responsible to use the image of your opponent as target practice to raise campaign funds? What messages are you conveying in that action?
There were other words and analogies available to communicate the Tea Parties message, they CHOOSE instead to use inflammatory rhetoric.
Why does the Tea Party choose to use rhetoric and images that invoke guns and violence?
The shooter was a registered independent who has shown signs of mental illness for years. The murder has absolutely nothing to do with the tea party movement. None. Nada.
The people who say we need more civility and less vitriol and then in the next breath link the shooter to the tea party prove they can't even see the height of their own hypocrisy.
That is what is most disturbing.
I find it amusing that you along with your fellow ignoramuses in the MSM keep ignoring the fact that people who knew the killer called him a "LEFT wing pothead."
"Why does the Tea Party choose to use rhetoric and images that invoke guns and violence? "
The deluded moron who killed had no Gadsden Flag in his home...but he did have a camouflage tent in his backyard.
Care to guess what was inside said tent?
Are you a fucking idiot? The rhetoric coming out of the LEFT is INCREDIBLY INFLAMMATORY.
All they EVER DO is accuse EVERY SINGLE PERSON who disagrees with them of RACISM and BIGOTRY.
Now, Arizona is the BIGOTRY and PREJUDICE capital of the US! Right out of the MOUTH of a leftard. People are getting sick and fuckin tired of this, to be perfectly honest and some people need to watch their mouths or get punched in them.
The left is like fucking muslims who riot over the accusation that they are violent.
I'll see your fatwa and raise you a crusade.
;->
Turn off the tv and the internet and get me some fries with my burger please.
The Bible has quite a bit of inflammatory rhetoric.
Maybe your second lobotomy will work out better than your first.
The END is not near. We are upside down and we need to skin (in a court of law) a bunch of sons of bitches. But, we are still free. OUR History dictates freedom. Yes it could go sideways, but we are not there.
Now, as population density increases, we will get more crazies. As population increases our lives become more restricted. As the whole economic scheme of the World is in a dark spot, things will change--- maybe not for the good.
BUT, you are still free. Get involved, vote, if you want change, make it your job to make it happen. Just dont loose your Constitution, the greatest Freedom document of all time.
Great post. What happened in Az. is a perfectly clear indication of the direction this county is headed in. The very fabric of the Nation is being torn. People looking from the outside in don't understand. I saw an article in a spanish financial news paper where the author expressed confusion as to why as a nation Americans go back and forth between Republican and Democrat presidents and now all of a sudden the tea party is gaining traction. While the event in Az certainly can not be atributed to the Tea Party it does point to a deeper seeded issues that left unresolved will begin to manifest themselves with increased violent tones.
I think it is less what happened (guy is most likely certifiable) in AZ as it is the reaction to it. Divisiveness in the MSM and then the commentary on sites such as ZH.
Much has been revealed.
I started thinking it when DHS started pat downs at the airport---the goverment is preparing for the day it sees its own citizens as terrorists!!
Some years ago Australians had the bulk of their firearms taken away from them, an article at the time in a shooting magazine said "what is it they have planned for us, that would have us reaching for our guns if we knew what it was"
Good pen, Jim.
Good Crayon, MORON.
I guess Igor Panarin must be getting ready to pat himself on the back.
the all data silver chart is forming the mega-cup-of-death-parabola formation...
for those with a calculus background, this means that y=x^2, with origin year circa 95.
for those without, it means 50usd by the summer, stratosphere shortly thereafter.
This is a brilliant essay. Great find, Tyler. Thanks.
You maniacs! Goddam you all to hell!!!!
(S.O.L. picture...just in case you don't get it.)
these murders were cia through and through...the collateral benefit of discrediting the tea party, a very healthy movement to fight the plutocrats, was an added benefit....the cia shills in the press came out on cue as expected to denounce them....
fuck the rockefellers, soros, rothschilds....they are mammon and i hate their deeds with every cell in my body.
The government should definitely fear the people. Especially in a nation with 200 million firearms. Loughner's alleged attempted murder of Giffords may not have been politically motivated. But it doesn't matter. Diffuse motivations notwithstanding, it may end up driving home the message that the government has gone too far, for whatever reasons (take your pick, there are many). Then again, that supposes the government is not too stupid or drunk on power to get the message. And that is definitely a reach...
Sorry, since when did MSM become liberal? MSM, a bunch of corporate tools, hacks, etc. Spreading disinformation controlled by the puppeteers like Rupert Murdoch. Except for a hand full of liberals, MSM is this country is very conservative.
In what country do you live? Here in the US, it's clear that NBC, ABC, CBS, Washington Post, NY Times, etc., etc., etc., are bastions of liberalism. Not to think so is naive.
If he's from Sweden those named are conservatives.
It's all perspective.
And the short-sighted people always wonder why they keep walking into walls....the author has it correct and America is obviously stuffed full of blind and ignorant souls.
So the "rhetoric" is getting too hot?
well, so now I hear some idiot saying AZ is the "bigotry and prejudice" capital now, huh?
so the RHETORIC is too hot but not too hot to start calling anyone who disagrees with your partisan agenda a bigot and a racist. I mean, sooner or later, someone might get pissed off enough to shoot you over this.
For anyone who says Americans in the military won't fire on fellow Americans, may I remind of The Kent State 'incident.'
Let's hope that much of that has changed, and there really is an awakening of truth among the mindset of the clear headed in the military, because while it's true that American Citizens are not exactly without tools in the event of the hammer dropping, it's also true that the military gets really special tools.
This isn't the same place or time. And Kent State was not what Crosby, Stills, Nash et al made it out to be.
It wasn't that long ago, and it wasn't as if the National Guard members were being seriously threatened with risk of serious and imminent injury or death.
May 4th, 1970 - 4 decades. In fact, even a year later, the military was prepared to respond with active duty troops equipped for riot duty if things got out of hand again in Ohio, especially around Wright-Pat AFB.
One of my favorite movies. My avatar is of Bacchus. One of the paintings in his collection was the famous Titian's Bacchus and Ariadne. I had the oil painting copied I liked it so much.
Interesting but dangerous. Interesting for me to read, but in the eyes of someone less well rounded, dangerous that is.
Arr matey thar be dangerous talk ye be sponsoring, best to concentrate on the money, which flows from the heart of the beast. :)
having read many posts on this thread one can conclude:
1. those posting the idea that the tea party was partly to blame for the shooting are useful idiots for the elite and should not be responded to, any future posts by them must be viewed as propaganda and dis information.
2. violence in Amercan today is as common as breathing- when it happens to touch the power elite or their representatives - major media spin is invoked to avoid people asking the right questions.
3. every event of this type is used to add more control of the population-
4. the elite do fear us, and justly so.
5. do not be divided by the elite mis information campaign. look for the root cause of society wide anger..and left vs right becomes much more US vs THEM.
This might make the author feel a little better --
http://www.reallifesuperheroes.org/
Such is life.
@Jim, sorry I'm coming late to this party, but if you liked the movie, I highly recommend the graphic novel it was based on. Alan Moore of Dark Knight fame back in the 80s. The novel dealt in much more depth with all the various levels of government manipulation both during the crises decades before as well as in V's current time. Dark stuff, but quite well done.
http://www.amazon.com/V-Vendetta-Alan-Moore/dp/140120841X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1295182979&sr=1-1