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Submitted by Brad Schaeffer

What Writing A Book Taught Me About Obama And Those Who Followed Him

My novel Hummel’s Cross takes place in pre-war (and wartime) Nazi Germany.  In the course of writing the book I became fascinated by how a nation of such highly sophisticated and astute people as the Germans—who gave us Bach, Beethoven, Luther, Goethe, Schweitzer, Einstein, Handel, Nietzsche, Kant, Wagner, (and thrown in a few Austrians like Mozart. Strauss, and Haydn) etc. could be so easily led to their own destruction – taking much of the Western World with them – by a charismatic if empty man.  I remember in the film Gladiator the observation is made that the Roman mob is fickle and easily led. Well, we have seen that in the case of this country in these times the mob is the intelligentsia in the media, the college campus, entertainment and some corners of high finance to name a few groups.  In 2008, they looked to Barack Obama and like past societies feeling the need for guidance from on high projected upon him the their own needs, desires and (let’s be honest here) need to cleanse the sense of self-flagellating white guilt they continue to carry over a perceived racism in the country that is now more prevalent as a topic of media round-tables than it is a fact in day-to-day American life. 
 
What gets me nervous is that they could project on him because this man Obama was and remains a mirage.  An illusion.  Someone whose greatness exists only in the minds of those who adore him for reasons they cannot even articulate because it is simply not rational. 

Never has so much power been invested in a man about whom so little was known, over whose nefarious past associations was made or even questioned, and who presented so few real-world accomplishments as to not even have a resume worth note. But he possessed two key skills that come in handy during times of economic and social upheaval: 1) His ability to speak forcefully while offering little but platitudes to whip up an audience eager to be led; and 2) a ruthless pragmatism that would compel him to say and do whatever it took to present an image that would best gain him the levers of power.  But that’s ok because Obama, knew what was best, even if the average Joe (except a certain plumber) did not, you see.   A new golden age of top-down management of our daily ives radiating out of the central state in Washington D.C. for which we would eventually be grateful.  All the people had to do was submit and get in line with the program. Many did willingly.  Blindly.  Fooled by a personality cult whose statist tendencies  remained hidden by a fawning state media/propaganda complex. 

By referencing Hummel’s Cross am I calling Obama “Hitler”?  Oh stop.  I understand the difference between an American president and a Nazi dictator so please do not belittle my concerns with such a knee-jerk accusation as you would be completely missing my point.  We still have a long way to go down the slippery slope to hitting the sandbox at the bottom of the slide as Germany eventually did. It’s the lesson on mob psychology I’m talking about here. What I am saying is that a nation's collective intelligence and level of sophistication is by no means no stop-gap to demagogues and dangerous men of all political stripes when the times are right for 'hope and change.'  

In the America of 2008, the times were right.  I know a lot of bright, successful people whose opinions and expertise on so many matters I deeply respect who were passionately in the Obama tank even wearing his buttons everywhere they went—yet I noticed that they could never quite explain to me why, beyond uttering vague touchy-feely slogans or the deflective “he isn’t Bush.”  Wow. As an independent-minded voter who grew up in Chicago and thus am aware of just what kind of pragmatic, even ruthless, ambition it takes to ascend the political ladder so rapidly there as did Obama, I needed more convincing than a cool campaign “O” emblem and Dave Matthews’ endorsement to earn my vote.  Yet I found nothing but a paper thin image as the talking points.  This vacuum of reasoning left me scratching my head. And the more I did my own research on this smooth-talking Cook County machine politician (as I would eventually conclude he was) the more anxious for my country I became.  I realized that, for all too many, Barack Obama's appeal to them was purely emotional.  Nothing more.  An exercise in collective self-actualization that may have had its place in a 1920's München brauhaus, a plaza in 1940's Buenos Aires or 1960's Havana, but certainly no place in what I once thought was the most developed and wary of Republics. 

We are a nation that should be skeptical of leaders.  It has been a part of the American character for over two centuries. The Constitution codifies this suspicion of those who seek power with checks and balances that reveal a deeper distrust in human nature…one that is justified if the history of our species is any guide.  As an American, it fills me with the greatest dread when I see
throngs of my countrymen searching for meaning to life and self-actualization not from within themselves but from a mere politician about whose biography they know far less than they do their favorite pop star’s. 

In a way, having little enthusiasm for the McCain ticket, I found myself in 2008 observing in fascination from the sidelines as the two campaigns developed.  And although he had his faults, no one could question who John McCain even was, or whether he had had served his country with honor.  Obama, however, was a mystery…and in many ways still is. One who I saw protected by a praetorian guard in a media unable or unwilling to ask even the most basic of questions about what made him tick.  That frightened me to no end.  It still does. 

In writing Hummel’s Cross I tried to throw myself into the mindset of an intelligent if detached German watching almost like a spectator as his country, indeed a member of his own family, slowly falls under the spell of a politician who says the right things at the right time and thus is given a pass on most everything else.  A man upon whom the hopes and dreams of a people are mass-projected to the point where they lose themselves.  And if it taught me one thing, it is that any people in the right circumstances can follow the wrong leaders to their own destruction—either through fiery cataclysm or, more insidious, slow economic and social decay too subtle for a populace to even realize what has taken place until it is too late to turn back. 

 

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Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:27 | 1379421 sitenine
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What gets me nervous is that they could project on him because this man Obama was and remains a mirage.  An illusion.  Someone whose greatness exists only in the minds of those who adore him for reasons they cannot even articulate because it is simply not rational. 

I know exactly what you mean.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 00:40 | 1379621 chopper read
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SORRY TO INTERRUPT.  WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS MEAN?


New Metals Trading Restrictions Posted by Lew Rockwell on June 17, 2011 04:36 PM

Writes Jason:

Just got a notice in the mail from my Forex broker. Apparently it is illegal to trade currencies against precious metals now. What a good way to show how safe the dollar is.

From Forex.com:

We wanted to make you aware of some upcoming changes to FOREX.com’s product offering. As a result of the Dodd-Frank Act enacted by US Congress, a new regulation prohibiting US residents from trading over the counter precious metals, including gold and silver, will go into effect on Friday, July 15, 2011.

In conjunction with this new regulation, FOREX.com must discontinue metals trading for US residents on Friday, July 15, 2011 at the close of trading at 5pm ET. As a result, all open metals positions must be closed by July 15, 2011 at 5pm ET.

When I got the notice I immediately thought of your blog, so I decided to share the news.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/89868.html

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:10 | 1379661 macholatte
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I got the same notice. This is not good. Is shuting down the paper trade the beginning of shutting down the physical trade or is there something unique about Forex that made this happen?

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:19 | 1379675 sitenine
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It means that you're gullible.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:27 | 1379686 CD
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22dodd+frank%22+precious+metal+trading

The reason I have no basis to be flippant is that I had no idea about this aspect either, and am sure other well-buried riders and clauses will emerge from the 2.3K page wonder that is our current regulatory regime.

But of course, they still have not gotten around to mandating position limits, or any kind of meaningful regulatory bodies...

For a more direct route to a primer on the topic:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/218529-obama-threatens-forex-says-goodbye-to-otc-gold-trading

 

Elimination of OTC Metals

As for OTC precious metals such as gold or silver, Section 742(a) of the Act prohibits any person [which again includes companies]from entering into, or offering to enter into, a transaction in any commodity with a person that is not an eligible contract participant or an eligible commercial entity, on a leveraged or margined basis. This provision intends to expand the narrow so called “Zelener fix” in the Farm Bill previously ratified by congress in 2008. The Farm Bill empowered the CFTC to pursue anti-fraud actions involving rolling spot transactions and/or other leveraged forex transactions without the need to prove that they are futures contracts. The Dodd-Frank Act now expands this authority to include virtually all retail cash commodity market products that involve leverage or margin – in other words OTC precious metals.

The prohibition of Section 742(a) does not apply, however, if such a transaction results in actual delivery within 28 days, or creates an enforceable obligation to deliver between a seller and a buyer that have the ability to deliver, and accept delivery of, the commodity in connection with their lines of business. This may be problematic as in most spot metals trading virtually all contracts fail to meet these requirements. As a result, although the courts’ interpretation of Section 742(a) is unknown, Section 742(a) is likely to have a significantly negative impact on the OTC cash precious metals industry. Here too, it is essential that those who offer to be a counterparty to OTC metals transactions seek professional help to discuss possible operational and regulatory contingency plans.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:36 | 1379695 WaterWings
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"Frankendodd"

Lex mala, lex nulla.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 02:06 | 1379722 sitenine
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SEC. 742. RETAIL COMMODITY TRANSACTIONS.

 

    (a) In General.--Section 2(c) of the Commodity Exchange Act (7

U.S.C. 2(c)) is amended--

            (1) in paragraph (1), by striking ``5a (to the extent

        provided in section 5a(g)), 5b, 5d, or 12(e)(2)(B))'' and

        inserting ``, 5b, or 12(e)(2)(B))''; and

            (2) in paragraph (2), by adding at the end the following:

                    ``(D) <<NOTE: Contracts.>>  Retail commodity

                transactions.--

                          ``(i) Applicability.--Except as provided in

                      clause (ii), this subparagraph shall apply to any

                      agreement, contract, or transaction in any

                      commodity that is--

                                    ``(I) entered into with, or offered

                                to (even if not entered into with), a

                                person that is not an eligible contract

                                participant or eligible commercial

                                entity; and

                                    ``(II) entered into, or offered

                                (even if not entered into), on a

                                leveraged or margined basis, or financed

                                by the offeror, the counterparty, or

                                a person acting in concert with the

                                offeror or counterparty on a similar

                                basis.

                          ``(ii) Exceptions.--This subparagraph shall

                      not apply to--

                                    ``(I) an agreement, contract, or

                                transaction described in paragraph (1)

                                or subparagraphs (A), (B), or (C),

                                including any agreement, contract, or

                                transaction specifically excluded from

                                subparagraph (A), (B), or (C);

                                    ``(II) any security;

                                    ``(III) a contract of sale that--

                                            ``(aa) results in actual

                                        delivery within 28 days or such

                                        other longer period as the

                                        Commission may determine by rule

                                        or regulation based upon the

                                        typical commercial practice in

                                        cash or spot markets for the

                                        commodity involved; or

                                            ``(bb) creates an

                                        enforceable obligation to

                                        deliver between a seller and a

                                        buyer that have the ability to

                                        deliver and accept delivery,

                                        respectively, in connection with

                                        the line of business of the

                                        seller and buyer; or

                                    ``(IV) an agreement, contract, or

                                transaction that is listed on a national

                                securities exchange registered under

                                section 6(a) of the Securities Exchange

                                Act of 1934 (15 U.S.C. 78f(a)); or

                                    ``(V) an identified banking product,

                                as defined in section 402(b) of the

                                Legal Certainty for Bank Products Act of

                                2000 (7 U.S.C.27(b)).

                          ``(iii) <<NOTE: Applicability.>> 

                      Enforcement.--Sections 4(a), 4(b), and 4b apply to

                      any agreement, contract, or transaction described

                      in clause (i), as if the agreement, contract, or

                      transaction was a contract of sale of a commodity

                      for future delivery.

                          ``(iv) Eligible commercial entity.--For

                      purposes of this subparagraph, an agricultural

                      producer, packer, or handler shall be considered

                      to be an eligible commercial entity for any

                      agreement, contract, or transaction for a

                      commodity in connection with the line of business

                      of the agricultural producer, packer, or

                      handler.''.

 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 06:22 | 1379860 Yen Cross
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 I took the time to decipher that! Nice work!

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 07:58 | 1379928 Coke and Hookers
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"A black President cleaning up the white Republican mess."

And he does that how?

Republicans spent too much - Obama spends more.

Republicans falsified the economy with money printing - Obama prints more.

Republicans started fake wars - Obama continues them and starts more wars.

Republicans bailed out failing companies at taxpayer's expense - Obama bails out more companies.

Republicans cut civil liberties - Obama cuts them more.

Republicans ruined the middle class - Obama is finishing the job.

Republicans hired Wall Street oons to run the economy - Obama hires more.

Republicans were deindustrializing the country - Obama deindustrializes it more.

Etc etc etc ad infinitum.

Obama is nothing but George Bush on speed and steroids. An establishment puppet running the show on behalf of someone else than the American people.

You are either joking or you are a total moron. As such you are very representative of the population.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 08:11 | 1379939 ATM
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Obama cleaned up the debt problem left by 8 yrs of Rep presidents by borrowing and printing trillions. Everyone knows that. Thank God we have such a smart person in charge because only he would know that the cure for a debt problem is debt.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 08:45 | 1379956 The Alarmist
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I think you all are looking at the debt problem the wrong way.  The problem was that the Republicans, although having run up too much debt, did not run up enough debt for the right reasons, so Obama fixed that mess by running up even more debt for the right reasons.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 12:24 | 1380214 masterinchancery
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You are joking, right? O/w you are in the running for biggest idiot on the planet.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 15:58 | 1380872 TBT or not TBT
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It is worse than you think. Obama's true intent is to create so much debt that a debt singularity is created into which all else will be sucked in. The resulting hell will be quelled by massive increases in pervasive authoritarian state power.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 17:29 | 1381050 janchup
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Hell or "Change We Can Believe In?"

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:39 | 1380020 Bay of Pigs
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Is this supposed to be sarcasm? I certainly hope so.

If not, junk this off the board please.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 17:27 | 1381047 janchup
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It's not sarcasm. It's a penetrating glimpse into the obvious.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:36 | 1380057 cossack55
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Read lead-ins on Amazon. Will probably give it a whirl.  FYI, I would contact Amazon and in Author's bio have them add that you are a frequent contributor to ZeroHedge. Add tons of viability.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 14:23 | 1380598 A Nanny Moose
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Repeal of gravity soon to follow.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 02:06 | 1379720 macholatte
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Thanks CD !

... This may be problematic as in most spot metals trading virtually all contracts fail to meet these requirements. As a result ... Section 742(a) is likely to have a significantly negative impact on the OTC cash precious metals industry.

AND it's especially sweet that it only applies to Americans. Is this the forthcoming pop of the PM bubble Soros warned about?

Hopefully ZH will comment.

 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 03:41 | 1379791 CD
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Hat Tip!


It makes perfect sense -- only allow millionaires to trade... 0

...if you want to eliminate speculation. 'Cuz it was all the leveraged small investors of OTC PMs who were in fact the evil manipulators and driving prices out of all proportion. You are only allowed in this game if you are already wealthy or:

3) A director, executive officer, or general partner of the issuer of the securities being offered or sold, or a director, executive officer, or general partner of a general partner of that issuer.

I love the explicit exception put in JUST for banksters. Priceless.

 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:30 | 1380051 optimator
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The Bankster's lobbiests wrote the Dudd Frank, so no surprise there.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 22:07 | 1381639 Oracle of Kypseli
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Eliminate the competition. JPM runs SLV and will be able to manipulate the paper market much easier.

I am sure you have noticed suspicious up or down of gold and silver price just before and/or just after opening of SLV and GLD options trading.

There you have it.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 07:05 | 1379887 Yen Cross
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+1 Yen.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 07:55 | 1379927 Oh regional Indian
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Holy Something. Nice segway Chopper.

The restrictions begin to creep in. Banner day. Mark it. I have. And july 15th another loaded date.

Perhaps another "explosion" of irreversible nature on July 16th? It is a Saturday, a god day for dirty deeds, done dirt cheep cheep.

We are now in the lost footing starting to stumble every third step on a long, rocky, muddy, slippery down-hill run into the caldera of a supervolcano.

If you think that is too stark and sensationalist, I suggest think agian.

Only two ways to thrive this, surviving this will not be worth it.

Learn to slow down (physically, know your center, emotionally, know your center, spirit-ually knwo your center). Learn balance. I'm totally serious guys, all th eguns, gals, gammo and whatever will not help if you are unbalanced. Polish your "self".

Second, learn to fly. I'm totally serious again.

Remember, we are entering the phase of approaching maximum novelty, nto so far-fetched at all. ;-) But most here are verbo-warriors. 

Perhaps one or three might want to come and see how? Hmmmm...

So, center and flight.....

ORI

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/06/17/nuclear-american-cross-other-thoughts/

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 09:29 | 1379989 centerline
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Always enjoy your writings ORI.  Love the stuff on balance here.  My name here being "centerline" has nothing to do roads actually.  It is actually meant to express the same concepts of balance - and also as reference to kung fu principles which are largely the same.  I really stress the idea of balance with my family and friends - hoping to help them find peace and clarity.  This will be critical going forward so as to allow the right decisions to be made, as likely some of the decisions may be difficult.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:44 | 1380150 Oh regional Indian
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Thanks Centerline and likewise. your avatar always gives me pause, quite the snapshot of where we are today.
And balance, it's it, you know?

No Balance No Life
Know Balance Know Life

ORI

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:06 | 1380106 SWRichmond
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We are now in the lost footing starting to stumble every third step on a long, rocky, muddy, slippery down-hill run into the caldera of a supervolcano.

Yes.  Unknown territory.  Fully expecting to be startled, even frightened.  I AM slowing down, deliberately, and quite a bit.  It's easier to stay balanced if you're not running so fast all the time.  I get it.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:45 | 1380151 Oh regional Indian
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;-) Awesome!

ORI

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 02:09 | 1379721 Al Gorerhythm
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Gullible? WTF? These are not the times for glib, ad hominem and worthless statements. If you have nothing else of value to add, then stop wasting time and space. 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 02:16 | 1379730 sitenine
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I considered it a hoax at the time.  My appologies.  After actually reading the relevant section of the Act (which I posted above), I do realize the seriousness of matter.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 05:45 | 1379843 Al Gorerhythm
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An open and investigative mind is a thing of wonder, a gift perhaps. Well done.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 08:05 | 1379936 Oh regional Indian
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Decency, all around, a pleasure to see on this board. Fight club and all notwithstanding.

Well played gentlemen.

ORI

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:10 | 1380027 JimRogers
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Go eat more shrooms ORI.

 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:50 | 1380158 Oh regional Indian
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Ah, while you choke on your bile?
What is with needless needlers?

Be passersby.

ORI

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 14:46 | 1380673 falak pema
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His avatar is Jim ROgers...it is a name that sells shooms since the first Jim Roger appeared in Kentucky to groom horses...He thought you trained thoroughbreds... so don't mind his loss of focus...its a trait of the ROgers who love stable brooms as much as they enjoy selling shrooms. They are truly bewitched by broom sticks... its a family trait like shroom selling. You got him all excited climbing the indian rope...on nights they appear circling the moon on their brooms...hooting "shrooms"... to fellow broom riders.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 23:47 | 1381808 Oh regional Indian
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Hah! Them hosrey Rogers, eh?

ORI

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 02:35 | 1379741 Michael
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I bet if you randomly introduced a white man and a black man to each other alone together in a room, those two by a high percentage would get along quite well.

Do this to a large sampling of white and black men and you will see my analysis is accurate.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 02:56 | 1379763 i-dog
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Children are the only test case you need. Children have no concept of racism or fear of other races / religions ... until they are "trained" by their bigoted parents to "stay away from that chink over the road" or "that nigger next door" or "those joos", usually reinforced by a few spankings or ostracisms for disobeying.

Trav777 must have had the shit beaten out of him by his father for playing with a black as a kid (though not all of it.......)!

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 03:25 | 1379778 Michael
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But those same people talk to each other all day long on Facebook without a problem?

Don't know about TRAV77.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:11 | 1380023 Coke and Hookers
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. People seem to be hardwired to have more positive attitudes towards people the more related they are to them - the  "family>tribe>race" thing. This seems to work on a subconscious level, regardless of overt attitudes. Even white liberals who believe themselves to be totally 'bias free' respond more negatively to blacks than whites in tests that measure subconscious responses. Same applies to other races - except the other way around (with some notable exceptions). The argument about kids being 'racism free' and that racism is learned is dubious too. Has a child without racial 'prejudice' been completely 'left alone' by its parents or has it been trained to override genetic programming by ignoring obvious differences? The funny thing is that these 'racism free' children show subconscious 'racism' both as children and as grown up 'unbiased' liberals. This is a minefield and a lot of research on the issue is so contaminated with idology that it's verging on the surreal.

Look at these videos. Do you believe that these children's parents are bigoted and have trained them to stay away from the "nigger next door"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG7U1QsUd1g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybDa0gSuAcg

 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:57 | 1380088 JW n FL
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when people fuck with kids.. it makes me see fucking red.. and I dont mean some fucking polite fucking conversation type of red.. red like I wanna chop them up and feed them to an alligator.. one fucking knuckle at a time so they can watch themselves being eaten alive.. I HATE ANYONE that would / could and / or fucking might cause Harm to ANY CHILD!! I dont care if the Child is fucking purple with green spots!

 

I have been tested once in an extremely public place over my feelings!

 

I learned a few things!

1. People who did not see what you saw will think you an attacker of the other person, not knowing why or that the other person was attacking a child.

2. Someone else did see it all and will step forward even though they may not agree with my extremely violent response.

3. Most important! I can make bail and I have the best esquires money can Buy! SO FUCK ANYONE WHO FUCKS WITH A CHILD!

 

In Florida.. the child molesters have to go to prison.. when they are about to be released they move the child molesters to a Pych Ward! and then hold them until they are no longer a threat.. they may NEVER! get out!

 

Constitution that I scream about the rest of the time.. gets a pass on that one. Evil should be kept away from children, no matter the cost!

 

Or.. for the cheap crowd! I am NOT against just shooting them in the head with a .22.. I am all for the Cheap way out!

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 12:14 | 1380189 AnAnonymous
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It is framed. Children evolve in an environment. Children have no choice other than taking into account their environment. It goes beyond racism.

In this regard, children are truth tellers. Children can be told something about the rules, but if it does correspond with reality, it is useless. They see through and play the game by the rules.

 

That story of racism in the US is over: for kids not to grow into racists, they should not be immersed in a racist context which it is not the case. Children see through and expose the propaganda.

And it is the same for any other field: useless to tell to a kid that hard work pays when the kid has parents who are breaking their back at work and earn very little. Children see perfectly well that it is not hard work that pays but the type of jobs you do and how it is valorized etc...

The list is long. Nothing subsconscious in that, they simply see what the world is like.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 05:40 | 1379842 sabra1
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what about placing weiner and dsk in the same room?

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 07:42 | 1379916 nmewn
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"what about placing weiner and dsk in the same room?"

Not much of a difference on certain levels. One went around the bend given enough time in power, the other hadn't spent enough time in power to get to that stage.

Two hopelessly flawed, egotistical people infatuated with self and their positions.

The root of it is power...people with no character should never be trusted with it, as power comes with the responsibility to wield it wisely...in governance it will always be a temporary thing derived by consent, not divinity. 

If it can be given it can be taken away...this should form the nucleus of consciousness for anyone seeking power and authority over others. There should be a sense of humility that you have been entrusted with something very few will ever have. Far too many take it as a personal gift that feeds the ego of self.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 08:34 | 1379953 Sambo
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Most people on the top never behave responsibly. The (financial) power they exercise over others acts like an aphrodisiac. Some are able to overcome this effect on sexual behavior, others like Dsk, Weiner, Bill Clinton are led astray.

Unfortunately, some women are smart enough to see this weakness in men and are able to exploit them for their own selfish goals which in turn is a result of....

....fear!

 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 09:21 | 1379980 nmewn
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Absolute power corrupting absolutely, yes, as we know.

I don't believe there would be any difference if most of the powerful were women, the males would fawn & flatter seeking favor...the powerful (now women) in stroking their own narcissism & vanity react the same...I don't think gender has much of a part in this play.

It is quite the chuckle to see Ginger Lee (a friend of weiner's everywhere...LOL, sorry, couldn't resist) cashing in after conducting a press conference on morality & ethics...in the end, they all wanted only what the powerful are entrusted with by us. I suppose now, with Larry Flint offering Weiner a job (as a lobbyist I suppose) the visable circle of prostitution is complete.

I hate the idea of term limits as we subconsciously admit we don't have the ability (as a society) to replace the clearly corrupted we see representing us.

But it may be the only way.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 13:43 | 1380161 G-R-U-N-T
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Yep nm I believe you are exactly accurate. The obsession of a "personal gift" can easily springboard into a self absorbed maligned psycho/sociopathic imaginary manufactured ego. Obama is a perfect example.

 

 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:50 | 1380081 InconvenientCou...
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"desires and (let’s be honest here) need to cleanse the sense of self-flagellating white guilt they continue to carry over a perceived racism in the country that is now more prevalent as a topic of media round-tables than it is a fact in day-to-day American life."

He who smelt it, dealt it.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 06:48 | 1379875 mayhem_korner
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Dodd-Frank eradicated portions of the 1933 Commodities Exchange Act.  Effective July 16, 2011 (one year afte D-F was signed into law), it will no longer be legal to conduct OTC transactions (UNTIL the CFTC and SEC finalize the definitions and rules as to what constitutes a "swap" eligible for margining/clearing, etc.)

The CFTC just punted on a lot of this stuff, proposing to defer implementation of the rules until December 31, 2011.  There is a HUGE GAP in that, however, because the CEA stuff that was voided by D-F is left unresolved.  So everyone is trying to figure out what to do.  FOREX is taking a conservative approach - not going to recognize OTC transactions with the overhanging uncertainty.

That's about all I can tell you that I'm confident in.  I am not confident in the CFTC, SEC, FDIC, etc. actually resolving the definitions issue.  Their ambition to broaden the regulatory net as wide as possible is making it difficult.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 09:41 | 1380003 gaoptimize
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We really should not hijack this thread, but I feel compelled to say: Capitol Controls bitchez.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 12:10 | 1380184 Cthonic
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Analyzed last year here:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/218529-obama-threatens-forex-says-goodby...

Basically, you won't be able to trade spot gold and silver at 100:1 leverage, or whatever ratio your forex broker previously allowed.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:47 | 1379701 Freddie
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ZH is filled with afew douche bags who voted for Mugabe 2 in 2008.  They all deny it but watch the POS junk me.  F U.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:31 | 1380052 JW n FL
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there a great many people who bought into Obama..

 

His "No More Lobby!" sold me.. I didnt care what else he said after that..

 

but.. what have we learned? there is no difference between Obama and Bush!

 

whoever is next? will continue down the exact same path as Obama! there is NO! way to stop the Federal Reserve Banks Owners!

 

The Lobby Rules ALL!

 

Now, for the simple minded.. sure, one Lobby Whore is Pro-Life, one is Pro-Choice.. whatever.. that is all dog and pony show bullshit.. the middle class will be gutted and then absolute funds will be routed!

 

But this doesnt effect you? why? why do you believe in Republicans over the Democrats? they both dont care about you and they both will destroy America? Both are owned by the Lobby OUTRIGHT! on average, Average.. the Lobby contributes 4 times more than the average Congressman makes..

 

Congressman makes $400k.. then the Congressman collects $1.6 Million in Lobby / Pact whatever monies. http://www.opensecrets.org/

 

who do you want to win? who should have been the winner? McSame? nothing would be different. At least Obama lied about making changes.

So who do you think should be President.. lets see who owns them..

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 12:33 | 1380233 JW n FL
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/?page=2

 

Promise Broken rulings on the The Obameter Centralize ethics and lobbying information for voters

 

"Will create a centralized Internet database of lobbying reports, ethics records, and campaign finance filings in a searchable, sortable and downloadable format."

 

>> More

Allow five days of public comment before signing bills

To reduce bills rushed through Congress and to the president before the public has the opportunity to review them, Obama "will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days."

>> More

Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials

"No political appointees in an Obama-Biden administration will be permitted to work on regulations or contracts directly and substantially related to their prior employer for two years. And no political appointee will be able to lobby the executive branch after leaving government service during the remainder of the administration."

>> More

Double funding for afterschool programs

"Will double funding for the main federal support for afterschool programs, the 21st Century Learning Centers program, to serve one million more children."

>> More

Urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws

 

As president, "will use the bully pulpit to urge states to treat same-sex couples with full equality in their family and adoption laws."

 

>> More

Allow bankruptcy judges to modify terms of a home mortgage

Will repeal provisions of the Chapter 13 law that prohibit bankruptcy judges from modifying the original terms of home mortgages for ordinary families -- regardless of whether the loan was predatory or unfair or is otherwise unaffordable -- "so that ordinary families can also get relief that bankruptcy laws were intended to provide."

>> More

Re-establish the National Aeronautics and Space Council

 

Will re-establish an organizational authority in the federal government with a sufficiently broad mandate to oversee a comprehensive and integrated strategy and policy dealing with all aspects of the government's space-related programs, including those being managed by NASA, the Department of Defense, the National Reconnaissance Office, the Commerce Department, the Transportation Department, and other federal agencies. This Council reporting to the president "will oversee and coordinate civilian, military, commercial and national security space activities. It will solicit public participation, engage the international community, and work toward a 21st century vision of space that constantly pushes the envelope on new technologies as it pursues a balanced national portfolio that expands our reach into the heavens and improves life here on Earth."

 

>> More

Support human mission to moon by 2020

 

Will "endorse the goal of sending human missions to the Moon by 2020, as a precursor in an orderly progression to missions to more distant destinations, including Mars."

 

>> More

Pay for the national service plan without increasing the deficit

 

"Will maintain fiscal responsibility and prevent any increase in the deficit by offsetting cuts and revenue sources in other parts of the government (to pay for a national service plan that will cost about $3.5 billion per year when it is fully implemented). This plan will be paid for in part by cancelling tax provisions that would otherwise help multinational corporations pay less in U.S. taxes starting in 2008 by reallocating tax deductions for interest expenses between income earned in the U.S. and income earned abroad. The rest of the plan will be funded using a small portion of the savings associated with ending the war in Iraq."

 

>> More

Limit term of director of national intelligence

 

"Will insulate the Director of National Intelligence from political pressure by giving the DNI a fixed term, like the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. Obama and Biden will seek consistency and integrity at the top of our intelligence community -- not just a political ally."

 

>> More

Give annual "State of the World" address

 

"I'll give an annual 'State of the World' address to the American people in which I lay out our national security policy."

 

>> More

Reduce earmarks to 1994 levels

 

"Barack Obama is committed to returning earmarks to less than $7.8 billion a year, the level they were at before 1994."

 

>> More

Enact windfall profits tax for oil companies

 

"Will require oil companies to take a reasonable share of their record-breaking windfall profits and use it to provide direct relief worth $500 for an individual and $1,000 for a married couple. The relief would be delivered as quickly as possible to help families cope with the rising price of gasoline, food and other necessities. The rebates would be fully paid for with five years of a windfall profits tax on record oil company profits."

 

>> More

Create cap and trade system with interim goals to reduce global warming

 

"Will set a hard cap on all carbon emissions at a level that scientists say is necessary to curb global warming - an 80% reduction by 2050. To ensure this isn't just talk, I will also commit to interim targets toward this goal in 2020, 2030, and 2040. These reductions will start immediately, and we'll continue to follow the recommendations of top scientists to ensure that our targets are strong enough to meet the challenge we face."

 

>> More

Require plug-in fleet at the White House

 

"Within one year of becoming President, the entire White House fleet will be converted to plug-ins as security permits."

 

>> More

Provide an annual report on "state of our energy future"

 

"I will report to the American people every year on the State of our Energy Future."

 

>> More

Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009

"Obama and Biden are calling for legislation that would allow withdrawals of 15% up to $10,000 from retirement accounts without penalty (although subject to the normal taxes). This would apply to withdrawals in 2008 (including retroactively) and 2009."

>> More

Recognize the Armenian genocide

 

"Two years ago, I criticized the Secretary of State for the firing of U.S. Ambassador to Armenia, John Evans, after he properly used the term 'genocide' to describe Turkey's slaughter of thousands of Armenians starting in 1915. … as President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide."

 

>> More

No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase."

 

"I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

 

>> More

Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN

To achieve health care reform, "I'm going to have all the negotiations around a big table. We'll have doctors and nurses and hospital administrators. Insurance companies, drug companies -- they'll get a seat at the table, they just won't be able to buy every chair. But what we will do is, we'll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents, and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies. And so, that approach, I think is what is going to allow people to stay involved in this process."

>> More

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 02:15 | 1379729 AnAnonymous
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What gets me nervous is that they could project on him because this man Obama was and remains a mirage. 

 

 

Funny article. Under the cover of calling for vigilance over power grabbing and its ways, this man covers power grabbing. Very US citizen like.

Obama is your typical US citizen president. He disembled his way to power just like a US president since the US inception.

Nothing different from a George Washington or A Thomas Jefferson.

Yet US citizens want to make a special case of Obama. Go figure.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 08:04 | 1379934 Oh regional Indian
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Well, I'll have to say Obama is the most set-up of them all. Perhaps more than GWB. So it's been a progression.

Why couldn't Congressman Mcfadden ever run for President? Eh?

;-)

ORI

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:42 | 1380069 fleur de lis
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Because Louis Thomas McFadden (R-Pa) was a man of irreproachable character, sterling reputation, and his word was good as gold. He witnessed the foreign central bankers and their domestic agents and toadies putting the Federal Reserve together so as to institute perpetual debt slavery on America.

He fought them back valiantly, and for this he was shot at on the streets of DC, was poisoned at a congressional dinner and would have died were it not for a doctor at the same dinner.  During a trip to NYC he had just arrived at his hotel room where he "mysteriously died."

That so very little is known about such a loyal American goes far to explain the venality and depravity that has gripped America since.

The parasites in DC and their pimps at the Fed have done everything he said they would. 

McFadden's speeches are still astonishing in their accuracy.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:14 | 1380122 mahalopamala
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Thank you!  I am rapidly learning since waking up in 2008.  I am thankful for all the posters sharing their knowledge and helping to educate us.  I now have a new person to research.  McFadden must have been a precursor to Dr. Ron Paul.  I am currently reading the new book Liberty Defined- 50 essential issues that affect our freedom by Dr. Paul.  Worth a read- short chapters on 50 issues.  Helps put into perspective how many of our freedoms, as American citizens, have been stolen.  As you stated fdl, the Fed and the parasites have really followed their game plan and many of us are just now understanding how this corrupt system was put together.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:55 | 1380165 Oh regional Indian
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Spot on Fluer.

Everybody should give these a read.

Eye popping, brain melting, startling.

http://hiwaay.net/~becraft/mcfadden.html

ORI

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 12:19 | 1380208 fleur de lis
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Yes ORI, after that speech LTMcF was a marked man. Senator Lindberg (Charles's father) was also very vocal in his disdain for the Fed, and he argued against joining the European war.

I don't suppose he realized that the whole point of the Fed was to plan and fund wars, and keep Americans distracted with financial disasters while still ripping them off through taxes, which flow into the Fed, which then plans and funds wars, etc.

Round and round it goes where it stops nobody knows.

The Fed is a squalid scam. 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 08:20 | 1379944 Bicycle Repairman
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"Obama is your typical US citizen president. He disembled his way to power just like a US president since the US inception."

It's a matter of degree.  President Obama is nothing like candidate Obama.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:39 | 1380073 Bastiat
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Why would a US citizen need to fake his birth certificate after hiding it for years?

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 12:19 | 1380207 AnAnonymous
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Because he knows how his fellow US citizens are? That showing them evidences of something they have no benefit in believing is at core useless.

 

Here an example (but so many others):

Why would a dictator needs to stop to cooperate with a US investigation mission?

The story is none: non WMDs in Iraq. US citizens do not operate on truth/lies basis. They operate on profitable/unprofitable basis.

The US citizens nature is eternal.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 12:19 | 1380212 fleur de lis
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Because then everything he signed might be invalid and possibly voided.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 07:33 | 1379902 Yen Cross
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I like adept traders! Sweetness!  Yen

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 07:36 | 1379907 Republi-Ken
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BRAD SCHAEFLER ... you are an idiot.

Another libertarian conservative seeing a boogie man in every closet.

You are Bush and Cheney redux fear mongering.

OBAMA has mucho smarts. Smarter than you. Lots smarter.

And he manages by hiring the smartest (HONEST) people to run GOV in the most extreme financial environment since 1929 ... even worse because of the greater risk of derivatives implosion ... and the great debt overhang that was caused by Republican Economic Theory of Un-Paid Tax Cuts Are A Free Lunch since 1980.

See David Stockman: "Republicans Bankrupted America".

A black President cleaning up the white Republican mess.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 08:08 | 1379935 nmewn
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"A black President cleaning up the white Republican mess."

Race bait much?...he's also half white.

So it is your position his black half is "cleaning up".

What's his white half doing while he goes about this chore...extending the Bush tax cuts?...drone attacks on nations we are not at war with?...signing legislation he never reads or even tries to comprehend?...confusing vending machines & ATM's with workers?...ROTFL!!!

And since your're such a Barry fan...one question needs to be resolved above all others...just what were his college test scores? ;-)

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 12:20 | 1380216 AnAnonymous
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Half white? What is that stuff? In the US, if one has one drop of negro blood, one is a negro.

That is the story of the US.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 15:31 | 1380786 nmewn
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"Half white? What is that stuff? In the US, if one has one drop of negro blood, one is a negro."

LOL...what century do you live in?

I can never figure out half the euro-shit you barf up around here, are you saying he's a complete unadulterated screw up because he's a "negro" or because he's an Ivy League socialist with a God complex?

Inquiring minds...

Sun, 06/19/2011 - 01:51 | 1381946 Diogenes
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Barry Obama is half white and half black, and every Martin Luther King Day he punches himself in the face.

I'm half Scotch and half soda and I think I will have another dringk.

Sun, 06/19/2011 - 06:26 | 1382124 nmewn
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LOL!...first laugh of the day!

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 09:35 | 1379999 SoNH80
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Don't blame me, I voted for Dick Gregory..... Right On, Power to the People, etc. etc. (sarc)

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:23 | 1380128 Armando Javier ...
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What is the record for the highest number of junks?

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:45 | 1380145 cosmictrainwreck
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I think 50 causes deletion of post.... (too generous, imo)

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 09:12 | 1379975 PD Quig
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Best Obama quote ever:

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry of jack-asses capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a truly depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America... Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 09:37 | 1380000 nevadan
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As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their hearts desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

- H. L. Mencken

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 09:45 | 1380005 Jerome Lester H...
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Like it...whose quote is it?

Sun, 06/19/2011 - 03:44 | 1382033 PD Quig
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Sorry. I saw it with no attribution. Supposedly came from somebody in Eastern Europe, but who knows?

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:48 | 1380157 psychobilly
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Actually, the real danger lies in the mass, infantile delusion that we need daddy- and mommy-like figureheads to micro-manage our lives for us in the first place.

Some people who don't care for Obama are just waiting for the right hand to lick.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun, 06/19/2011 - 09:41 | 1382286 dbTX
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So true

"And I will make mere lads their princes, and capricious children will rule over them"  Isaiah 3:4

 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:26 | 1380046 ISEEIT
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Don't be a fool. This is a paradigm shift. We ARE living in it. Those who come after us will record this time as 'revolutionary'. The open question is...OUTCOME 'BITCHES'.

I am a coward. I do not intend to openly revolt because (I am a coward?), I have a family that I love? Yes, I do and so I go along to get along. The 'financial crisis' was every bit as engineered as 9/11. It was meant to destabilise us.

As simple as Maslov's hierarchy of needs. As so long as our greatest focus is on the immediate spiritual and emotional desire to feed our families and provide shelter, we will follow the herd.

It is what we do.

Even while knowing that it is all a game and that 'all' will not end well.

PLEASE consider viewing the link?

http://thedailybell.com/2512/Staff-Report-How-the-Internet-Makes-False-F...

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:29 | 1379426 zorba THE GREEK
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 Manchurian candidate. 

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:37 | 1379444 JW n FL
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I thought it was just me.. but is this idiot fucking programed or what?

 

the sheer force of the machine that put Obama is office? is lost on him, completely!

 

letting lehman fail was the lynch pin.. but aisde from that! even! and this idiot blames the voters.. who's votes dont even fucking count! LMFAO!

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:41 | 1379470 JW n FL
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What I have been afraid to blog about: The ESF and Its History_Part 3

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qsll_5-FXc

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 00:08 | 1379580 DeltaDawn
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Whoa! Pass this one around.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 00:21 | 1379601 Selah
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Oh come on! (what's that flower you have on?)

The CIA is very friendly:

https://www.cia.gov/kids-page/index.html

 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:10 | 1379666 blindman
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wow. the series so far..
What I have been afraid to blog about: The ESF and Its History_Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ssrcD5GdPQ
.
What I have been afraid to blog about: The ESF and Its History_Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImuVUab6WW0&feature=related
.
What I have been afraid to blog about: The ESF and Its History_Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qsll_5-FXc

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:36 | 1379696 CD
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Playlist form of all videos:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PLB8A37463BAF0821D

It lays out how the Fed is Treasury, and vice versa. EE writ large.

Despite being an apologist for the Fed and making FRB seem like an innocent lambikins, a used & abused victim (he misses the part about who is holding the leash), it has some interesting ideas & facts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchange_Stabilization_Fund

http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/fedpoint/fed14.html

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:49 | 1379705 blindman
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right, all tools of the "bankster".
the heads of the hydra. the beast

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 03:42 | 1379790 zhandax
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Since the first video JW posted was #3, I watched it and, seeing the later link to all three, sent that to some friends.  Then after watching #1, I had to follow up that I believed the narrator to be a fed spinout with that 'poor abused fed' crap.  Still good (and obscure) stuff.  I was aware of the esf, but did not have a real grasp of their genesis, spawn, or track record.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 08:46 | 1379957 blindman
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Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE
.
Television - Venus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f3d5ZdE4vY&feature=related
.
it is this simple

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 12:43 | 1380267 Oh regional Indian
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On dial up here, i watch streams of youtube links, interesting all I'm sure, instead of streams of youtube!

All good though! :-)

ORI

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 13:36 | 1380421 zhandax
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ORI, open the youtube link in a new window.  Note the time, turn the volume down, and come back to ZH.  When it finishes playing, go to your cache and copy the largest file with a timestamp that matches the start time.  Paste that file on your desktop and add the .flv extension.  You can watch the video with VLC player.  Works about 95% of the time (the remainder are .mp4 or get wiped from cache).  That way you get it as it was intended rather than a series of links. 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 23:52 | 1381810 Oh regional Indian
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Thanks Zhandax, will try this! 

ORI

Sun, 06/19/2011 - 01:10 | 1381904 UP4Liberty
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@JW n FL - just watched all threee of these videos within the past 72 hours. WOW - talk about an eye-opener.  You have to give Eric DeCarbonell credit for taking the months required to research and produce these segments.  These videos are on the level of G.E. Griffin's "Creature From Jekyll Island".  Harry Dexter White makes me want to vomit.  If our print, radio and tv journalists had any courage, this info should have hit the sunshine immediately...guess the CIA's propaganda "spooks" are pretty effective at what they do.  Cheers!

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 23:42 | 1379554 connda
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I think you've got the essence there: Politics, in general, is no longer about the man. It's almost completely about the machine behind the man that TPTB would rather remain hidden and left conveniently out of sight so the projected illusion of the man is all that is imprinted in the minds of the unthinking masses.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:15 | 1379676 Blotsky
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Well, I blame the voters also. But only because they cant see what it is that you just said.

If they refuse to understand what Kennedy said concerning TPTB, then they have no chance at understanding that voting is a joke.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:19 | 1379680 FeralSerf
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He's owned and controlled by the CIA (and therefor by MI-5 as well).  It should be obvious to everyone.  His mother, father and grandparents were CIA.  His entire background has been fabricated by the CIA.  The Company doesn't intend for there to be another JFK, even if it's necessary to supply the "leader".  It's all a matter of national security.  Hush-hush, need to know and all that shit, of course.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 09:30 | 1379991 john39
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his mother is also an ashkenazi.  imagine my shock.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:15 | 1380031 fiftybagger
Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:52 | 1380087 fleur de lis
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Agree 100%. He is a complete fabrication. 

Stanley Ann Dunham worked on microfinance in Indonesia as an employee of Peter Geithner, who was employed by the Ford Foundation. Both of them had children the same age. Hmmm.

I have noticed that his speeches seem memorized, because he sometimes stops and backtracks, fills in and continues.

Does anyone know why his college records are so heavily guarded? You would think that such a genius would show us his fabulous grades.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:44 | 1379702 Freddie
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You are a Hussein voter. Pu**y.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 00:52 | 1379644 Id fight Gandhi
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Yes... How about a nice game of solitaire?

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 03:50 | 1379795 The Alarmist
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I said Tic-Tac-Toe, Dammit! When will you learn?

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:30 | 1379427 OldPhart
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With all respect for McCain's sacrifices for our country, the endorsement by such rags as the New York Times and Los Angeles Times made him instantly non-votable in my view.  I voted for Ron Paul.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 23:18 | 1379529 spooz
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Same here.  Once again I threw away my vote on a third party candidate, a "none of the above" vote in effect.  I'll probably be doing it again next year.  I keep thinking this is the time for a viable third party candidate, but I think too many people are in the us vs. them, Republican/Democrat state of mind for it to happen.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 00:13 | 1379586 malek
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McCain, I did't care who endorsed him or not.
But only later did I realize that he had Phil Gramm as economic advisor, which might have been even slightly worse than crass failure Larry Summers.

Next time Ron Paul most likely...

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:37 | 1380066 Bolweevil
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What scares me is that none of you mentioned his choice of VP. a name I shall not utter on these hallowed threads. Thus the problem is not the candidates, but the constituency. Enlightenment (me)!

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 14:12 | 1380572 malek
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Within weeks his choice turned out to be ridiculous, yes. But in a decision process you should from time to time recall: first things first. Scared of it, no. I believe it was a stroke of genius by the liberals [press] to build up a scare on cluenessness. Sounds like you fell for it.

Should people have voted against JFK because of vice LBJ, for example? No, they shouldn't have. And even with 20/20 hindsight on all following events I think their choice was correct.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 00:57 | 1379646 Id fight Gandhi
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Don't blame me, I voted for kodos.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:33 | 1379690 ISEEIT
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"they" have taken our society to the point of mass disassociation. Once we hit that point, anything else became possible. The fabric of our social contract has been yanked out from beneath us. It has been cultural 'waterboarding', we have broken down and collectively been reduced to idiots. The very fact however that we were reduced to the option of barack or McCain says enough.

Basically, "do you want it in the head, or the heart?"

Much has been said in derision of the Greeks on this blog, but in fact we Americans are now no better, not us a people or as a country. Just because the Greeks are in line ahead of us does not change the reality that we are in the same fucking line.

We (ha-ha, the 'we' consist of crazed regressives arguing with crazed neocons) will not get out of the line and run. Nope. We won't. We will think about it, we will wisper to the dupe next to us that maybe we should, but we in the end will most likey continue our march toward that time when we take the bullet.

Doing so will render you a worthless corpse (except for watches, gold fillings, ect..)

It will however insure that the tryanny wins, you are dead anyway. The only real difference is that you will be a dead coward, rather than a dead man who might be remembered as the spark which began a fire.

A fire maybe that gave the future a chance to live free.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 02:10 | 1379717 CD
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Here are some thoughts from a Soviet agitprop expert on how it's done.

From 1984 or 85 -- incredible. Listen, be amazed at how it's all laid out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS8LA-5fmrs

In lecture form, with more operational details:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZHRgTskEhE

Longform full videos - Griffin interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

Lecture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 04:21 | 1379811 Reptil
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useful! thnx

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 05:42 | 1379841 Husk-Erzulie
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Tremendous links in here so far, thanks everyone :-)

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 06:16 | 1379859 Optimusprime
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Wow. Thanks. 

 

On trial for his life, Socrates averred that he had avoided politics as being too dangerous--as likely to lead to his death.  Fat lot of good that did him in the end--pursuing truth in ways found "dangerous" by TPTB alone can be enough.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 07:28 | 1379877 falak pema
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This is so ironic, too hilarious for words. An ex-KGB freak out telling in the 1980s the Americans about...what the KGB was doing to demoralise them...not realizing, or wanting to wantonly ignore, that his very counterparts were doing those very things all during the cold war and worse acts....when they took out Mossadegh in Iran, Allende in Chile, installed military rule in Pakistan, destablised Soekarno in Indonessia by US ally Suharto, indulged themselves in similar mayhem plays and ways as the KGB in South VIetnam, during Operation Phoenix, Mai Lai etc. Using  the same psy-ops to influence civil society to believe in "free trade and democracy" which allowed the US monopoly corporates, or oligarchs from Oil, food, MCI sectors, to take over their economy under the "good politician umbrella' flag like under King Reza Pahalvi, or General Pinochet, or all those others in S. America after operation Condor. 

The list just goes on and on...So Comrade defector from KGB hell tells of the KGB horror story to the country that spawned... its mirror opposite...that won the dirty, MCI cold war subsequently!... Oh Pot! Oh Kettle! When our black is blacker than your black....But lets compare notes!  We are back to back as repentant psy-operatives there where we were once face to face on two sides of the divide. Read John Le Carre to understand it from the inside. It has the smell of 'little drummer girl' and of the 'tailor of Panama'. What a weird world!

Disclaimer : My psy-ops operation to demoralise true american patriots is purely in my own name. I represent no country, creed or secret society. But of-course, free will is what it is all about. So use yours freely.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 08:38 | 1379954 Manzilla
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I voted for my little dog.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 23:51 | 1379566 Chuck Walla
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McCain was just Liberal Progressive Lite. If you were going to vote for a Progressive, might as well get the balls to the walls genuine article, not that smarmy, ersatz, milquetoast kind. It was very hard to get excited for John, that's why he had to pick a Palin. At least there was life in the campaign then.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:56 | 1379711 Freddie
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McCain was Soros Plan B.  Conservative Repubs did not want McCain.  He was picked by Dems in open primaries and the elites.  Stealth NWO Dem.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 02:40 | 1379748 malek
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I disagree with your third sentence. He was the only true conservative with a clear stance against torture.
(Note: I don't count Ron Paul as a real Rep. Which is an asset, not a liability.)

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:06 | 1380104 fleur de lis
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John McCain was not conservative, he did not support conservative ideals (border, global warming, etc.,) and never missed an opportunity to deride and ridicule the C's, many of whom stayed home because he was so distasteful to them.

TPTB knew they would get their way with either candidate. There wasn't much of a difference between them.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 12:36 | 1380256 JW n FL
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I hope you wanna be conservatives get your way! I Pray for it! I want Austerity for the Poor and Tax Breaks for the Rich! just like Bush Brokethe system with snatching away Federal Funding 2 years early after doubling / tripling funding every year before.. I want Austerity to BREAK the Camels Back so that I can start having some fun!

 

I wonder what it will cost to get a voter registration list when the lights go out? some food? a bag of flour? a silver eagle? how much will it cost for me to have in my hands a list of the dumb fucks?

 

Here's Hoping and Praying YOU FUCKING MORONS GET YOUR WAY!!

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 14:30 | 1380621 malek
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There are people that get their ideas outside of being C, and therefore you should look at their principles not their source of inspiration.
You sound like someone who has gotten his line of thinking framed by other bigmouths. By the way how many conservative principles did Bush Jr. betray in your opinion.
I am not even aware of a general conservative ideal on global warming. Which would make sense as it is a big scam.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 23:30 | 1381770 fleur de lis
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I don't understand your statement but my point was that JMcC was never really a C and voted against them to the point where they stayed home.

He was selected by TPTB, there wasn't much of a difference between him and BO. 

They are almost all owned at the top, they would not likely get there otherwise. There is no good reason this country should be in a state of financial disaster, or why our borders are willfully left open for trespassers, or why our immigration laws are flouted with impunity, or why money is squandered without question.

Don't ask me to defend any of those you mentioned. 

If they cannot adhere to the Constitution they do not belong in high office. Or low office for that matter.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:27 | 1379431 bigdumbnugly
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hey this is america.

can he write that?

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 06:43 | 1379871 Yen Cross
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Welcome back Bluto!  Stay around. Election time is fun!

 

               say hello to Olive Oil (greekdebt) for me.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:32 | 1379434 Hedgetard55
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FWIW, at least Lord Obama understands that it is automation and productivity that has created structural unemployment problems in the US, and if we want full employment then we will need to eliminate machines. No other President before him was nuanced enough to see that.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:44 | 1379467 Rodent Freikorps
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No other president has been an affirmative action puppet/

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:48 | 1379710 Yen Cross
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Minus the junk( +1 Now you are good for the weekend!   Yen.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:53 | 1379491 Long-John-Silver
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Correct! We need to go back to an agrarian society where the average life expectancy was 45 yrs. No cars, no doctors, no electricity, no health care, and slaves. Lots and lots of slaves picking cotton.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 04:31 | 1379816 zhandax
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I sense a dichotomy here....no doctors, no health care.  What do today's doctors have to do with health care?  They just want to identify some symptom for which they can proscribe one of their trainer's and master's profitable snake oils to treat.  They have no clue what else to do.

You want health care, educate yourself on what the human body needs.  Disease is not usually caused by a lack of drugs.  Change that garbage you eat.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 06:14 | 1379857 Yen Cross
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 Long John,  I have been following your posts. I have to admit, I'm impressed!

 

      You are well spoken!   YEn  (dot)

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 07:40 | 1379908 Yen Cross
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 You must be clairvoyant! I just planted Pumpkins for Halloween!  I'm not joking or being Dis respectful in any way.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 10:27 | 1380042 Rusty Shorts
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Long John, I've always questioned those life expectancies...

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 23:24 | 1379535 CH1
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That was supposed to be a joke, right?

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 23:36 | 1379544 Hedgetard55
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I don't joke about the Lord Obama.

 

/s/

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 06:53 | 1379878 Yen Cross
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Obumma has a #4 wood for sale.  He can't lift a #3 wood. Too much pole smoking in the W.H. tunnels.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 23:57 | 1379574 Chuck Walla
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Screw this Neo-Luddite stuff. Lets divy up the continent and get everyone a mule and some seed and go back to the Agrarian Roots. No more juvenile crime as the little bastids would HAVE to work to eat. No Uncle Sugar dropping Cheese and Checks like an Eagle with diarrhea. No Fed, just a seed bank.  Of course no more public unions as the engine of Democrat corruption, either, curtailing the Congressman's most reliable source of ready cash and wealth.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:32 | 1379435 ILikeBoats
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Don't worry about Hitler-lite coming to America - worry about Cheka-lite coming to America.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:28 | 1379688 Cistercian
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Too late.The Cheka is already here.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:29 | 1379438 naughtius maximus
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"intelligentsia in the media"

haha

Kalye Anthony story.. Oprah.. Jane Velez mitchal.. all for the lulz 

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:34 | 1379440 cossack55
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Actually I don't think the bottom of the sandbox is that far off.  I have been studying the Nazi experience for about 50 years (even spent 9 years in Germany talking to those who lived thru it) and insidious seems to describe the ascent best (along with desperation). Me thinks we are closer than many think, and our bad guys have some super tech the nazis never had.  When the Internet ends, so do we. 

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:36 | 1379455 DogSlime
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I'm not sure it's the same this time, though.  Hitler was popular and almost held as a messiah.  Obama might have been viewed like that in the run-up to the election, but I'm not sure that's how he is thought of now.

Maybe there will be a Hitler figure in a few years once everything has collapsed, but I doubt it will be Obama.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 22:43 | 1379465 dark pools of soros
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Hitler attacked the bankers and was adored... Obama bent his knees and is lothed

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 23:07 | 1379512 three chord sloth
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In a strange way, I think Obama has innoculated America against a Hitler figure. I can't see the press or the public swooning over a politician, let alone a tabula rasa, again for a long, long time.

Fri, 06/17/2011 - 23:28 | 1379536 spooz
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He's lost most independents, and even the progressives are turning their backs on him.  I think you're right, we won't be fooled again. Too bad there are no good choices.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 11:30 | 1380137 Armando Javier ...
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The choices are absolutely horrible. Just horrible.  I would vote for Paul but he has zero chance of being elected.  Maybe a third party candidate will emerge. 

 

 

 

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 00:00 | 1379576 Chuck Walla
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Don't be so sure about the press. A smooth talker who will give them a reach around can really make their legs tingle.  Nothing like being buggered by a Haa-vard Man.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:58 | 1379713 ISEEIT
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Don't bet on it. The 'machine' is just warming up. The game is for the press to play obama as the only viable option. The fallback positions are Romney and Huntsman (maybe Perry). obama holds enough big guns to make his return (kill shot) nearly inevitable. The big one being lined up now is a significant drawdown in Afganistan, timed to begin in Aug/Sept 012.

They will play to the populist will because even with the machine they can only steal so many votes (maybe 10-20%). I do believe that obama has the powers a bit nervous, he hasn't delivered on carbon dioxide yet and that was one of his key assignments.

They pretty much have food and land locked up. Energy and water are next. obama has let them down on energy and so they are hedging with Romney and Huntsman.

Sat, 06/18/2011 - 01:54 | 1379714 ISEEIT
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Don't bet on it. The 'machine' is just warming up. The game is for the press to play obama as the only viable option. The fallback positions are Romney and Huntsman (maybe Perry). obama holds enough big guns to make his return (kill shot) nearly inevitable. The big one being lined up now is a significant drawdown in Afganistan, timed to begin in Aug/Sept 012.

They will play to the populist will because even with the machine they can only steal so many votes (maybe 10-20%). I do believe that obama has the powers a bit nervous, he hasn't delivered on carbon dioxide yet and that was one of his key assignments.

They pretty much have food and land locked up. Energy and water are next. obama has let them down on energy and so they are hedging with Romney and Huntsman.

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