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Guest Post: White House Covers Up Menacing Oil "Blob"
White House Covers Up Menacing Oil "Blob", Submitted by www.OilPrice.com
In an exclusive for Oilprice.com, the Wayne Madsen Report (WMR) has learned from Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers sources that U.S. Navy submarines deployed to the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic Ocean off the Florida coast have detected what amounts to a frozen oil blob from the oil geyser at the destroyed Deep Horizon off-shore oil rig south of Louisiana. The Navy submarines have trained video cameras on the moving blob, which remains frozen at depths of between 3,000 to 4,000 feet. Because the oil blob is heavier than water, it remains frozen at current depths.
FEMA and Corps of Engineers employees are upset that the White House and the Pentagon remain tight-lipped and in cover-up mode about the images of the massive and fast-moving frozen coagulated oil blob that is being imaged by Navy submarines that are tracking its movement. The sources point out that BP and the White House conspired to withhold videos from BP-contracted submersibles that showed the oil geyser that was spewing oil from the chasm underneath the datum of the Deep Horizon at rates far exceeding originally reported amounts. We have learned that it was largely WMR's scoop on the existence of the BP videos that forced the company and its White House patrons to finally agree to the release of the video footage.
The White House is officially stating that it does not know where the officially reported 10 miles long by 3 miles wide "plume" is actually located or in what direction it is heading. However, WMR's sources claim the White House is getting real-time reports from Navy submarines as to the blob's location. We have learned that the blob is transiting the Florida Straits between Florida and Cuba, propelled by the Gulf's Loop Current, and that parts of it that is encountering warmer waters are breaking off into smaller tar balls that are now washing ashore in the environmentally-sensitive Florida Keys and Dry Tortugas.
Corps of Engineers and FEMA officials are also livid about the cover-up of the extent of the oil damage being promulgated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and its marine research vessel in the Gulf, RV Pelican. NOAA stands accused by the aforementioned agencies of acting as a virtual public relations arm for BP. NOAA is a component of the business-oriented Department of Commerce.
Similarly, the Coast Guard, which takes its orders from the cover-up operatives at the Homeland Security Department, is denying the tar balls washing up on the Florida Keys are from the oil mass. WMR has been told the Coast Guard is lying in order to protect the Obama administration, which has thoroughly failed in its response to the disaster. The White House's only concern is trying to limit political damage to its image in the electorally-important state of Florida while the Pentagon has spent between $25 and $30 billion on oil spill operations in the Gulf and the Atlantic to date.
WMR sources also report that the oil mass has resulted in dead zones in the Gulf of Mexico that have cut off oxygen and killed massive numbers of marine creatures and plant life. Seafood wholesalers from the Gulf Coast to New Jersey and New York have been told that the supply of shrimp, oysters, and other seafood from the Gulf is severely in short supply and that they can expect a possible total cut-off as the situation worsens. The shortage will also affect the supply of seafood, especially shrimp, to national seafood restaurant chains like Red Lobster and Long John Silver's.
There is also evidence that BP, Halliburton, and Transocean sank a drill to a depth of 35,000 feet at the Deep Horizon site some six months ago without the required permits from the federal government. WMR has learned from U.S. government sources that the drilling at 35,000 feet caused a major catastrophic event that required the firms' oil rig personnel to quickly pull up the drill and close the drill hole.
However, the Deep Horizon re-sank the drill some six months after the unspecified "catastrophe," resulting in another, more destructive chain of events following the explosion that destroyed the rig, killing eleven workers. When the Deep Horizon blew up, WMR has been told it also "blew down," cracking the the sub-seabed pipe that may have been re-drilled to a depth of between 25,000 to 30,000 feet, again, without a government permit.
Government sources also report that BP is intent on recovering as much oil as possible from the undersea geyser rather than simply plugging and capping the well, which would then place it off-limits to further drilling. The Corps of Engineers reports that BP is playing a game with Obama, convincing him of the feasibility of "shooting junk" into the subterranean pipe, which would stop up the pipe with a manufactured chemical compound called "MUD." However, WMR has been informed that BP actually intends to shoot cement into the pipe in an attempt to cap the well with the later intention of digging a trench for side drilling from the pipe to recover as much oil as possible. The technology that would be employed by BP is the same technology that was used by Kuwait to conduct slant drilling of Iraq's Rumallah oil field -- an event that helped trigger Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.
Corps of Engineers and FEMA sources also give a failing grade to both Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who stands accused of being woefully incompetent in handling the disaster, and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar. Government sources say both secretaries should immediately step down or be fired.
Source: http://oilprice.com/Environment/Oil-Spills/White-House-Covers-Up-Menacing-Oil-Blob.html
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BP really must die, that's all there is to it.
BP isnt the end all be all of the problem
So, they blow up Texas City in 2005 due to negligence.
Spill 100K barrels in Prudhoe Bay in 2006 due to faulty maintenance.
When (according to a report by the Center for Public Integrity), two BP refineries are responsible for 97 percent of all flagrant safety violations in the United States over the last three years (see reference in yesterday's press conference: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/press-briefing-press-secretary-robert-gibbs-5172010)
I think we could stipulate a pattern of behavior, even before they became the first company on earth to FUCK UP AN ENTIRE OCEAN.
http://www.redcounty.com/oil-seeps-natural-oil-spills/39648
Turns out the climate change defense works for oil spills too... Ever wonder where nature gets its hydrocarbons from? Maybe the blob will create a GodZilla once it comes into contact with natural Uranium.
It's an empirical question whether the undersea plumes are due to the spill.
We'll see what the evidence says.
Obviously this is a disaster Zack, and it will result in economic hardship for many. BP should pay for it. That being said, it might not be the end of the world.
This source (Wayne Masden) is really weak - we are essentially getting all worked up here about a National Enquirer article.
I'm not saying the spill isn't horrific, nor that there can't be an underwater 'blob' - just that this source has very little credibility. Check out the previous Masden stories before you get too excited about this.
A lot worse that 'weak', it is crap! Consider this from the 'article' "We have learned that the blob is transiting the Florida Straits between Florida and Cuba, propelled by the Gulf's Loop Current..."
The Loop Current is a surface current yet this 'report' says the blob is 3000 to 4000 feet below the sea surface!
Ridiculous post and it should be taken down.
As you imply, there's nothing worse than a lame scandal.
Is your thesis argument that it's headed away from us?
nice post, great article. Sent it over to Doug Ross..
wow.... zh/td Get it together.
PLEASE STOP POSTING FROM OILSOURCE.COM
It is sooo painfully clear that these people writing these articles have not the slightest understanding of drilling or oil and gas in general.
OIL can have a specific gravity that is higher than water... 8 API is > 1000 kg/m3... Generally speaking though, heavy oil does not 'cold produce' and I doubt that heavy oil is spewing into the ocean. I call BS on this story.
"WMR has learned from U.S. government sources that the drilling at 35,000 feet caused a major catastrophic event that required the firms' oil rig personnel to quickly pull up the drill and close the drill hole."
Oh RLY? Sources? Proof? Theres thousands of people on the rig involved in drilling, maybe they are all part of the conspiracy too.
"When the Deep Horizon blew up, WMR has been told it also "blew down," cracking the the sub-seabed pipe that may have been re-drilled to a depth of between 25,000 to 30,000 feet, again, without a government permit. "
What in the F are you talking about now? Are you talking about another well? The same well? Are you reiterating that the same well was drilled to a lesser depth than in your original statement? WTF are you talking about? This doesnt make any sense. There are no 'sub-seabed' pipes. There is a well that was drilled and cased and completed. That is all.
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Government sources also report that BP is intent on recovering as much oil as possible from the undersea geyser rather than simply plugging and capping the well, which would then place it off-limits to further drilling. The Corps of Engineers reports that BP is playing a game with Obama, convincing him of the feasibility of "shooting junk" into the subterranean pipe, which would stop up the pipe with a manufactured chemical compound called "MUD." However, WMR has been informed that BP actually intends to shoot cement into the pipe in an attempt to cap the well with the later intention of digging a trench for side drilling from the pipe to recover as much oil as possible. The technology that would be employed by BP is the same technology that was used by Kuwait to conduct slant drilling of Iraq's Rumallah oil field -- an event that helped trigger Iraq's invasion of Kuwait."
^^^ Seriously! WTF is this sh*T /????
You are actually trying to say that an oil company is going to risk billions of dollars in cleanup costs so it can recover the oil rather than killing the well? It only costs a couple hundred million to drill a new one...
Using something called "MUD" is what we do every single day when we drill holes you morons. The MUD is more dense or heavier than the oil and gas, thus creating a higher hydrostatic pressure that keeps the reservoir fluids in the reservoir. This is not some fantasy, this is HOW IT IS DONE! Once the well is under control, they use cement to seal the well off. This happens EVERY DAY.
They aren't going to 'dig a side trench' to recover oil. They are drillin a 'RELIEF WELL' so they can kill the current well that is spewing oil into the ocean. When you lsoe cotrol of a well this is the only way to do it. This is not a fucking conspiracy you idiots.
Plugging and capping a well does not put it off limits to further drilling either! The so called "Plug and Cap" you are talking about is what failed and caused the blow out to begin with. Its common practice to plug a well off with cement, take the deep water exploratory rig that costs hundreds of thousands a day, and move it to another location. Later the well is re-opened and put into production.
Stop posting this worthless misinformed disinformation. It just detracts from the credibility of this site.
I thought they invented Limited Liability Corporations so they could get more liability. Go figure. You know its weird about conspiracies. Nobody heard a word about Tiger Woods because they all had Gags Balls shoved on them until wikileaks leaked it. And my guess is anything gagged about this leak is an attempt to limit their liability. So ya. I'd say a corporation would seriously keep trying to salvage oil from the well no matter what the environmental impact is. As long as they think they can get away with it.
I would not trust the wayne madsen report as a source in general... considering all the other stories they put out - always an explanation less any verifiable proof... actually pretty shocked to see that site get mention here.
that said - this is my weak first post, but really enjoy the site - and like many, much is over my head but enjoying the education on reading info and posts... thanks all
Welcome Krypton Kent.
The first post is always the scariest. It gets easier from here. You don't need to be an expert, just someone who is concerned and wishes to join in the scrum.
Thanks for posting.
What are you sayin', CD?
Speak up Kent! Fu%k wayne madsen! See? It's easy.
Here you go Broken_Trades, break this down for us.
http://leanenergy.ldeo.columbia.edu/docs/UltraDeep%20Prosp%2010-22-02.pdf
I actually read this document when you posted it earlier heres what I took away from it:
- USA neeeds deepwater drilling to provide jobs and energy security
- The potential size of the resource in the GOM is much greater than the North Sea
- Oil is between 15-25 API (lighter than water aka probably wont coagalate on the bottom as BS alarmist 16 yr old writer wants you to believe in aboce article from oilprice.com)
- Billion barrels of recoverable oil are required to finance these projects
- 6 Pages of blah blah blah on Lean engineering... Go 6 Sigma! P.F.O.!!!!
- The need for new technologies to deal with higher geopressures (higher formation pressures due to deeper wells)
- The need for environmental solutions - ie inject C02 to stimulate reservoir...
- All n all, just an overview of the potential and challenges that face ultra deep water exploration in the GOM.
Nothin in there at all that supports your comments below of:
"Yeah, BP knew back in 2001 that this was an extremely dangerous oil field, extremely high pressures, and even mentioned the possibility if drilling rig disaster exactly like what has happened. This oil field is HUGE.
I will attach link to R&D paper from back in 2001, they didn't have a clue, how to tap into this ULTRA DEEPWATER oil deposit...must read, repeatedly, lots of info here."
There was a sentence in there on sinking of rigs and loss of life, but that is due to the current engineering systems (2001) that don't utilize lean concepts. No where in there does it talk about risks of sinking rigs. I will however agree with you that the oilfield is potentially HUGE.
Regards,
Broken
Broken Trades - and who do you work for?
THANK YOU Broken_Trades, but I don't think that trying to interject reality in the face of a good conspiracy theory is going to get you anywhere with this audience.
So come on, Broken_trades, get with the ZeroHedge spirit, and join in the fun of taking this nonsensical drivel seriously. It's really fun to get yourself worked up about the grand conspiracy, and I thought this particular piece of fiction was reasonably well written in contrast to some of the other drivel you'll find on this site.
So let's really get the rumor mill going here... The big bad evil-doers at BP are secretly in kahoots with Jeffrey Christian, and the whole oil spill was actually PLANNED as part of the New World Order's secret plot to depress the gold and silver markets. GATA is going to blow the lid off this story any day now, just you wait...
Sigh... It's so disappointing - in the beginning I thought ZeroHedge had some damn fine writing and I still think it's the best investment site on the net in terms of covering all the right topics. But sadly the coverage of those topics has devolved to a signal to noise ratio where consipiratorial fantasy rules the day and you have to look between the lines for the occasional factual content.
Did you catch the story about how it was really a N. Korean submarine that sunk Deepwater Horizon with a torpedo? I really liked that story - gotta love those magic flying torpedoes that can be launched from a submarine then cause an explosion on a platform a hundred feet above the surface.
As for your allegation that stories like this detract from the credibility of this site, well, there's really not much credibility here to detract from. And besides all this stuff makes for fun reading so long as you enjoy fiction.
xPat
xPat, funny how fiction & so-called 'reality' seem to be converging these days, ain't it?
what is truth and what is fiction? is there a difference or is it only a matter of one's perception? who decides what is truth? does 1 + 1 always = 2?
I categorically deny this information
Now here's a reputable source.
I remember seeing him on TV before it was color TV. That dates both him and me. :>)_
So true, but the only thing worse is a government that keeps it under the surface. Should show us how desperate we are for deep ocean oil
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/the-world-cant-live-without-deepwater-oil/19476896/
...only because we are not allowed to get to the shallow, easy stuff....
You must not surf. Not that it will make much of a difference but I agree, If we're gonna do it, quit taking these kinds of risks
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=can-offshore-drilling-make-us-independent
http://na.oceana.org/en/blog/2010/05/energy-independence-dont-look-to-drilling
Pray tell what easy stuff are they not allowed to drill? So your saying BP would much rather drill at 5k ft. then drill say in IL. or N.Y.? The last large reservoir was found in 1973 Cantarell in Mexico. Are you of the simple crowd that thinks the earth is a chewy nougat of oil at the center? If there is easy oil I can drill it, let me know where so I can fire a number of geologists and hire you.
dup
Don't forget BP facilitated genocide--ask any biafran. Oh wait, that's right, you can't, there aren't any biafrans anymore.
Many of the claims in this story seem rather iffy.
Many of the claims in this story seem rather iffy.
As opposed to BP's claims?
It's entirely possible for two different people to be lying about the same thing, and the truth isn't necessarily in between or even close to either "side's" story. Compare to how trials work in the US - the truth isn't necessarily presented by either side.
+1 on the 'iffy' of da blob off cuba.
Heckuva job, Brownie.
+1111
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss..."
Obummer = George Bush + Learned to Read
"fast-moving frozen coagulated oil blob"
The new tongue twister. Since "she sells sea shells by the sea shore" will soon be covered in oil, try this one on for size. I tried to say it fast a few times and wound up insulting my brother Bob. :>)
It's learned to coagulate. Which means it's learned to gang up. It's heading towards a strip joint on miami beach. Watch out. The blob hound gang is coming. The attack could be vicious or viscous or something. Damn the 10w40 full steam ahead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p64FvyOBj4
wtf is everybody dumping on bob, anyway, cd? seems like a consipracy to me at times!
A blob.. Deep-Horizon.. FEMA.. jesus christ, it sounds like a bad Sci-Fi movie where an alien blob from the deep horizon attacks the USA and we're all forced to FEMA camps.. /end off topic bullshit.
LOL UGrev. I was thinking the same thing. A black and white movie with Raymond Burr and a Japanese cast comes to mind.
You mean like this one,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhyRpvgm03g
Corrupt, incompetent, and clueless politicians and bureaucrats?
I'm shocked.
BP Fails Booming School 101 Gulf Oil Spill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_enCDXmVj0
The chick narrating is right: that shit's not that complicated. And she's also right, I haven't seen one instance on MSM news showing the booms set up properly. "Fucking Proper Fucking Booming" started to roll of her tongue; I liked it. Also, holy fuck.
Yeah, BP knew back in 2001 that this was an extremely dangerous oil field, extremely high pressures, and even mentioned the possibility if drilling rig disaster exactly like what has happened. This oil field is HUGE.
I will attach link to R&D paper from back in 2001, they didn't have a clue, how to tap into this ULTRA DEEPWATER oil deposit...must read, repeatedly, lots of info here.
PDF
http://leanenergy.ldeo.columbia.edu/docs/UltraDeep%20Prosp%2010-22-02.pdf
"Look at all that cheddar!"
Round up the usual suspects.
Another crime in progress.
Al Gore was exactly correct ---- we ARE soon going to see significantly rising sea levels!
He just never imagined that the rise would be due to OIL!
There will be more whistle blowers if this is true, we can all look forward to watch the O address the nation some time next month.
Wistleblowers?
Not necessarily so.
Where are the whistle blowers that destroyed the twin towers and WTC 7?
Ah, Janet Napolitano: bringing that Arizona governating magic to Homeland Security.
God help us if any non-retarded terrorists decide to target us. I'm sure her excessive post-burrito flatulence will help keep them at bay.
LEAKED RECORDING AT US/CANADA CROSSING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo91XS5pVj8
deleted
This "don't fuck with us or we'll happily ruin your day/week/life" attitude is getting pretty old. But hey, it's about a 5 out of 10 compared to where we'll be in the next coupla years if this ship doesn't sink outright before then - enjoy the quasi-police state while you can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyTS6dwd-XE
This guy gets the treatment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYHhBJPTHqo
"Don't be an ass!"
- whether people realize it or not, we are under martial law now, and it will only intensify. Your tax dollars at work.
Drug tests for steroids and other banned substances should be preformed on the authorities monthly. That would rid the forces of the ones prone to rhoid rage.
perhaps they should be subject to estrogen therapy.
I'd be all like. Look you fucking radio shack. I don't care if you got questions. Shut the fuck up.
The question is: Can we harness the menacing blobs power and use it for good, or is the blob unredeamable?
Well, Chris Christie is doing good in NJ...
Dude!
Katamari Damacy
http://blogs.westword.com/backbeat/1217_katamari.jpg
Goldman sells blob futures to clients....clients lose money.
Well done SteveNYC.
Perhaps Obama will order that the Army place a large quantity of BP's recovered oil into a tank on the front lawn of the Supreme Court Building,
heat to +150C and lower the BP/Halliburton/Transocean officials and their govt co-conspirators, one-by-one, slowly into the boiling vat...
That's a reality TV show with high ratings!
gee...sorry. O is one of them thar officials.
New name for HFT Dark Pools. "Frozen Blobs."
There is so much disinformation about this out there right now it is difficult to know what to believe. I will say this ... I believe BP as much as I believe GS. If any of this is true it could be what brings down the Obama White House. (That and possibly Shorebank)
Way down yonder here in New Orleans I've been hearing for about a week now that the bulk of the oil is below the water's surface and is starting to wash up on shore in the form of tar balls, most of which are very small. If this story is true, sounds like a gigantic tar ball is fixin' to wash up on somebody's shore real soon. Should make for a really good disaster movie, especially if it migrates up the Mississippi and emerges by crashing through the levee at New Orleans.
The article said it was in the Florida straits between Cuba and the Florida Keys. I wonder how the Cubans will react if it washes up on their shore?
Hillary will file UN sanctions against Cuba for theft.
This gigantic oil spill is clearly just an IRS and US Treasury-directed attack on the offshore tax havens.
I predict that the currents will be carrying this oil blob directly to the shores of the Bahamas, Barbados, the Turks and Caicos, The Netherlands Antilles, and the Cayman Islands in short order (with a side loop down to Panama), and then on to Bermuda and the Channels Islands via the Gulf Stream soon afterward,eventually washing ashore on the Isle of Man as well.
It's a brilliant attack, really --- kill 9 non-NWO-complying birds with one stone!
I really, truly hope they don't fuck up Turks (or any of the other countries for that matter), that place holds a real special place for me. An amazing place, in the case you haven't been there.
Hopefully, people will begin to realize that government is practically incapable of doing anything to remedy a serious situation like this. If they did have an action plan (other than cover-up/keep people in the dark), it would have been implemented by now. The conclusion we can draw is that they either have no idea what to do, or they like the fact that this crap is still spewing out into the ocean. As a society, we rely too much on letting daddy govt, and we're all in for a rude awakening when we finally realize that they can't fix this one. We'll also realize that most of the empty assurances we've been given over the years (about standards, regulations, procedures in place, not letting this kind of thing happen again, and all the other crap we always hear after an environmental catastophe) have amounted to nothing more than barney-the-purple-dinosaur brand happy talk (i.e., total bullshit).
Side note: Napolitano and Salazar should step down. It's not all about body scanners and keeping your oil buddies pacified.
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2010/05/ken_salazars_role_in_bp_disast.php
Keep in mind that FEMA can be wrong. It's usually wrong on a lot of shit.
I'd wanna see the goddamned data before coming to conclusions about the effects on marine life of the spill.
Whatever. I just wanna fast-forward six months at this point.
Maybe the Brooklyn Bridge will fall down. It's due.
OSHA should be screaming at the top of its lungs to get BP data on air toxicity; wafting inland.
"Government sources also report that BP is intent on recovering as much oil as possible from the undersea geyser rather than simply plugging and capping the well,..."
Why plug and cap it when BP (courtesy of the do-very-little O-Loser admin.), can have the loop current carry it out into the open currents of the Atlantic, where BP can await for the oil to arrive off the coast of England.
Hey that's not a bad idea. You work on Wall Street by any chance?
Before crossing the Atlantic, let's hope that The Blob stops in Chesapeake Bay right in front of Dick Cheney's waterfront home. Karma.
+100
was just thinking the exact same thing a couple days go.
wait a minute...you say you need 400 plus major league suck-offs, who are idiotic enough to volunteer for a kamikaze mission to ingest the oil at crush depth...
CONGRESS!!!!
As is too often the case these days, I'm so disgusted and depressed by the rampant corruption and incompetence that I barely have the energy to comment anymore. And, while I don't believe a word coming out of BP, sadly I feel the exact same way about the Obama administration and virtually all members of congress. Corrupt, incompetent, self-serving criminals all.
honor amongst thieves. too bad we're the victims
OpenEyes, I feel the exact same way. Its like having a painful hangnail on a long roadtrip and no clippers.
No. It's like have a gangrenous leg on a long road trip, and no saw.
The blob is demanding more liquidity, or it threatens to kill all of the nation's puppies.
No one could have seen this subprime blob coming...
Just one more reason.
November incumbent bloodbath.
Lame duck Obama. Then dump his corrupt ass in 2012.
Let's vote for some change we can believe in the next 2 elections. Clear out all incumbents.
If there is a complete backlash against incumbents (not just Dumbocrats - a few Repugnants too) in November I can see impeachment proceedings against Obama about a year from now.
I'll die laughing if Reid and McFake both go down... All 33 Senators up for re election need unemployment...
Can't believe I started shorting BP when it was at 52$!!
I FEEL SO GREAT RIGHT NOW!!! :)
KEEP IT UP BP!! I BELIEVE IN YOU GUYS!!
Depressing shit.
Tell yourself that this is happening in Africa... you'll feel much better.
I'm sorry you think so little of me.
Aren't you that guy from Watchmen? ;)
TOMORROW OPTION EXPERATION DAY!!
LET's CALL IT A HOLIDAY TOMORROW :)
MASACRE FRIDAY!
Wait, it's a frozen blob at a depth of 3000 feet? Great! We can just pretend it isn't there. Our government knows how to handle this.
Ice would float. Oil would float. It smells like BS
A bunch of rocket scientists thought it would be a good idea to mix the oil with detergent at the source. Now the oil is combined with something that prevents it from floating. This is negligence and incompetance at it's best. Why not promote them to senate?
But you also noted that the oil is not at the surface. It will make landfall somewhere, eventually, or else contaminate the deep oceans for a hundred years. But it won't appear on MSNBC during the dinner hour.
You think these guys don't know what they are doing? Give me a break.
And the second angel sounded, and something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea; and a third of the sea became blood;
9 and a third of the creatures, which were in the sea and had life, died; and a third of the ships were destroyed.
10 And the third angel sounded, and a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of waters;
11 and the name of the star is called Wormwood; and a third of the waters became wormwood; and many men died from the waters, because they were made bitter.
12 And the fourth angel sounded, and a third of the sun and a third of the moon and a third of the stars were smitten, so that a third of them might be darkened and the day might not shine for a third of it, and the night in the same way.
13 And I looked, and I heard an eagle flying in midheaven, saying with a loud voice, "Woe, woe, woe, to those who dwell on the earth, because of the remaining blasts of the trumpet of the three angels who are about to sound!"
dude... I feel like calling and sending SWAT to your house whenever I read stuff like this... You scare me you know.
Xibalba
The Winchester boys stopped that shit.
14) The peyote wore off and I woke up with a splitting headache in a rubber room wearing a straight jacket.
Sounds like more HYPE...
First we were told that this would be an environmental Armageddon, and when that didn't happen, now its because of a conspiracy.
YAWN. This is nothing but Alex Jones style agit prop to keep the enviro damage story alive... Sad to see it make its way to 0H.
Oilgate??
Sorry but THAT source? Pass. I'll wait for Mulder and Scully to post the truth first.
I want to believe.
If you believe that source, you believe that one of the first South Park episodes "Cartman Gets an Anal Probe" was a documentary.
you mean it wasn't?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPSY1BL0vZc
You mean to tell me that Sexual Harassment Panda isn't real either? Gads, the sky IS falling.
johngaltfla
I think you mean Olivia Dunham. Agent Broils will get Walter on it snappily.
Yeah Walter would say something off color while creating some sort of snack food out of the frozen oil blobs. LOL.
Frozen seems odd, unless they are using liquid nitrogen to freeze oil as it is coming out of the pipe. Not sure if it would be easier to collect frozen balls of oil or liquid oil mixed with sea water. Some engineer could make a fortune if they are able to figure out an easy fix for easily filtering/separating the oil from the water.
I can't wait to see WilliamBanzai's movie poster for this!
The methane hydrates are probably capable of forming a blob-like thing. Recall, they foamed up the first containment dome. Don't know how buoyant they are, mostly water so might be neutral. Could be the entire blob is methane.
Oh god no ... it's a giant frozen fart.
Whats the big deal.......maybe they can "grab" that blob and recycle it before it degrades. Perhaps our President can command a federal agency to reel it in and tax it. If memory serves around 600 square miles of Gulf ocean bottom turns into a dead zone every summer due to the algae bloom from all of the chemicals that come down the Mississippi River.
Been going on like that for years.
It seems to me that tar balls aren't particularly bad for the environment. It's the oil slicks that cause the big problems when they wash ashore, as they coat EVERYTHING, and when the animals are coated, they try to lick it off. With tar balls, they can be avoided, and they don't completely cover the animals.
I'm surprised these guys don't just suck up the oil from the "plume" with a long tube attached to a pump in order to retrieve the oil. They should be able to do the same thing for the slick. They should be able to separate the more viscous oil from the water fairly easily.
how rude - DOES THE OIL BLOB HAVE A NAME?? please in future refer to the oil blob's christian name..... aside from that - ALL big corporate entities regardless of sector - need to be broken up.....less of a chance of complete regulatory capture that has become THE cancer for america
you can call him Bob.
How about "Tar Baby"?
Or, for this one, maybe "Tar Daddy" would be more appropriate?
(Or is that politically-incorrect nowadays, referring as it does to Uncle Remus and all?)
I think calling it "Step 'N Fetchit" might be politically incorrect, but "Tar Baby" will probably pass muster.
doggis
Yes they do Gloop and Gleep.
Here they are pictured with their Gold hoarding family in Florida.
http://www.tvsinopse.kinghost.net/h/herculoides_arquivos/herculoids5.jpg
Oilbama
Does the blob have rights?
Is the blob a terrorist? racist?
hmmm..
Please, this article is ridiculous. First, though ad hominem attacks don't say much, I'll note that this article is based on a story from the "Wayne Madsen Report" that itself is based on anonymous sources.
But the bigger issue is that oil is less dense than water. Even "heavy" crude is less dense than water (remember Valdez spill??? That was heavy crude floating on top). In the Gulf they have light crude that is even less dense. Further, the oil coming out of the ground is warmer than the water at the bottom of the ocean (oil 1-2 miles underground is not cold!). Even clumps of tar float on the surface. Is there any part of Gulf light crude oil that has a density greater than water??? If not this story is impossible.
Maybe it was Gulf Heavy, Heavy Crude (GHHC)?
Dang it. Looks like NOAA needs to go back to ocean skool:
The oil is non-bouyant due to gravitational anomalies induced by proximity to the Bermuda Triangle and the nearby sunken Great Energy Crystal that powered the Atlantean civilization.
have a feeling we'll be hearing more from atlantis before this is all over
Dude, I'll be less polite than you.
The source is a F'n Loon.
I find this story pretty hard to believe. U.S.Navy submarines (even the latest Seawolf class) do not have the capacity to go much deeper than 1,000 feet. If they have video cameras trained on this submerged blob, do they have adequate light? It's pretty dark down at test-depth, and the amount of light needed to adequately illuminate a blob of this proportion would be phenominal!
Now, special research subs DO have the ability to go down that far. Anyone know if the NR-1 is still operational?
And who in their right mind would risk a submarine *and* crew to film a frozen blob?
I don't see a war game scenario that would justify the cost either.
Maybe a B-Film script got leaked...
The change in density should be extremely easy to see on sonar -- why even send a sub?
WMR is almost always correct. He is on top of the New World Order operations in Washington, and he is pretty reliable.
This is the same WMR that supported a communist dictator in Central America.
Uh,huh. OK.
A communist dictator in Central America??? I thought Commies were forbidden to apply for a dictatorship by the C.I.A.there!!!!
Senor Ortega may object to your comment comrade-:)
This is exactly why you want a good synthetic in your snowmobile or snow cat.
OilPrice is not the only one on this theme
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/48816
+1 for the tip.
More nutiness can be seen at Godlike Productions. I occasionally visit there after a few "bevvies". It helps me to laugh even harder at the drivel posted there.
this article at Naked Capitalism may add some light
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/05/guest-post-new-bp-insertion-tube-isnt-working.html
This is getting ridiculous. What is the tab of cleanup going to be?
political, monetary, or environmental?
Touche! I was looking monetary. I had heard a figure of a trillion. But I would be curious on the thoughts of political and environmental as well.
No, they should live long enough to be responsible and liable for all the damage they have caused, billions upon billions of dollars, destruction of federally protected wildlife habitat, destroying the tourism and fishing industry there, negligent homicide in the death of 11 people (I know you can't indict a corporation for murder but they need to find something) - and not only BP but Transocean and Halliburton, both explicitly involved in this tragedy, not that they care, heartless bastards.
Then hopefully this cost bankrupts them and then they die....
Tyler, can you have someone analyze this paper by Columbia University, and maybe post a report...it describes in detail the oil field that BP is dealing with, it's a monster, and the research paper points out the fact that they have no idea about the forces at play here.
http://leanenergy.ldeo.columbia.edu/docs/UltraDeep%20Prosp%2010-22-02.pdf