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Guest Post: Will 2012 Be As Critical As 1860?
Submitted by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform
Will 2012 Be As Critical As 1860?
“We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though
passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. The
mystic chords of memory will swell when again touched, as surely they
will be, by the better angels of our nature.” – Abraham Lincoln
We are approximately five years into The Fourth Turning Crisis.
Every previous Fourth Turning had an economic dimension that eventually
led to a do or die all out war. The mainstream linear thinkers see a
recovery and a return to their concept of normality. They will be
shocked and flabbergasted when they realize that this is only the
beginning of a 20 year period of turmoil, chaos and war. It seems that
some study of history would benefit the mainstream talking media heads
pretending to know what is happening and political hacks in Washington
D.C. who pretend to administer the affairs of state. The cycles of
history are not identical, but the alignment of generations is always
the same. The cycles are consistent because a long human life is always
between 80 and 100 years. The previous Fourth Turnings in U.S. history
were the American Revolution, the Civil War and the Great
Depression/World War II. The descriptions are as follows:
American Revolution (Fourth Turning, 1773-1794)
began when Parliament’s response to the Boston Tea Party ignited a
colonial tinderbox—leading directly to the first Continental Congress,
the battle of Concord, and the Declaration of Independence. The war
climaxed with the colonial triumph at Yorktown (in 1781). Seven years
later, the new “states” ratified a nation-forging Constitution. The
crisis mood eased once President Washington weathered the Jacobins, put
down the Whiskey Rebels, and settled on a final treaty with England.
The Civil War (Fourth Turning, 1860-1865)
began with a presidential election that many southerners interpreted as
an invitation to secede. The attack on Fort Sumter triggered the most
violent conflict ever fought on New World soil. The war reached its
climax in the Emancipation Proclamation and Battle of Gettysburg (in
1863). Two years later, the Confederacy was beaten into bloody
submission and Lincoln was assassinated–a grim end to a crusade many had
hoped would “trample out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are
stored.”
The Great Depression & World War II (Fourth Turning, 1929-1946)
began suddenly with the Black Tuesday stock-market crash. After a
three-year economic free fall, the Great Depression triggered the New
Deal revolution, a vast expansion of government, and hopes for a renewal
of national community. After Pearl Harbor, America planned, mobilized,
and produced for war on a scale that made possible the massive D-Day
invasion (in 1944). Two years later, the crisis mood eased with
America’s surprisingly trouble-free demobilization.
There is a consistent tempo to all Fourth Turnings. An event or
series of events leads to the initial Crisis. As the Fourth Turning
progresses it becomes more intense, chaotic, dire and bloody. It
eventually exhausts itself as a victor is left in control of the
battlefield. Picture George Washington at Yorktown, Ulysses S. Grant at
Appomattox, and Douglass McArthur on the Battleship Missouri. The events
during a Fourth Turning will always be different. The consistent aspect
of all Fourth Turnings is the mood of the country, the same
generational dynamics, and the reactions of the generations to events. Strauss & Howe describe this Crisis period as follows:
“The spirit of America comes once a
saeculum, only through what the ancients called ekpyrosis, nature’s
fiery moment of death and discontinuity. History’s periodic eras of
Crisis combust the old social order and give birth to a new. A Fourth
Turning is a solstice era of maximum darkness, in which the supply of
social order is still falling but the demand for order is now rising.”
The turnings of history are like the seasons. It is impossible to go
directly from Fall to Spring. You must withstand the bitter harshness of
Winter in order to get to the revitalizing warmth of Spring. The
intensity and depth of Winters will vary. Those who prepare for a
potentially harsh Winter in advance will be more likely to survive. The
morphology of Fourth Turnings as described by Strauss & Howe is:
- A Crisis era begins with a catalyst – a startling event (or sequence of events) that produces a sudden shift in mood.
- Once catalyzed, a society achieves regeneracy – a new counterentropy that reunifies and reenergizes civic life.
- The regenerated society propels toward a climax – a crucial moment
that confirms the death of the old order and birth of the new. - The climax culminates in a resolution – a triumphant or tragic
conclusion that separates the winners from losers, resolves the big
public questions, and establishes the new order.
An honest assessment of where we sit in this cycle shows that we are
still in stage one. The housing collapse brought about the near
destruction of the worldwide financial system. The sudden shift in mood
has been borne out by the angry rise of the Tea Party and the startling
result from the recent election. Society is on the verge of stage two.
There has yet to be the reunification and reenergizing of society. It
still feels like things are falling apart. The sun is slowly setting on
this stage and a dark brutal Winter night beckons.
1860 Election – Spark that Ignited an Epic Conflagration
Turnings throughout history have consistently lasted between 15 and
25 years, except one. The Civil War Crisis Turning lasted only 5 years
and seems to not fit the standard definition of a Turning. Strauss & Howe reflected that:
“By the usual pattern of history, the
Civil War Crisis catalyst occurred four or five years ahead of schedule
and its resolution nearly a generation too soon.”
The truth is that instead of a drawn out Crisis over 15 to 20 years
that would have had undulations of pain and suffering, the U.S.
experienced the most savage 5 years in our history, with 620,000
Americans killed and 400,000 wounded. Ten percent of all Northern males
20–45 years of age died, as did 30 percent of all Southern white males
aged 18–40. Strauss and Howe conclude that there are two lessons from
the Civil War Crisis:
- The Fourth Turning morphology admits to acceleration.
- That acceleration can add to the tragedy of the outcome.
The catalyst for the Crisis was the election of Abraham Lincoln as
President of the United States. After the Compromise of 1850, who would
have envisioned the election of an unknown Congressman from an
abolitionist party that didn’t even exist in 1850. Beyond that, could
anyone have predicted the carnage from the bloodiest war in the history
of mankind being the result of that election? Many people do not know
that there were four candidates for President in 1860 and that Lincoln
won the election with only 39.8% of the popular vote. Lincoln won the
Presidency and he wasn’t even on the ballot in Alabama, Arkansas,
Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, Tennessee, or
Texas.
The Republican Party realized they had a tremendous opportunity to
win the Presidency as the Democrats were in disarray. Since it was
essential to carry the West, and because Lincoln had a national
reputation from his debates and speeches as the most articulate
moderate, he won the party’s nomination on the third ballot on May 18,
1860. The Republican platform stated that slavery would not be allowed
to spread any further, and it also promised that tariffs protecting
industry would be imposed, a Homestead Act granting free farmland in the
West to settlers, and the funding of a transcontinental railroad. All
of these provisions were highly unpopular in the South.
The Democratic Party split into two factions due to the issue of
slavery. Stephen A. Douglass became the Northern Democrat candidate. He
was a moderate on the slavery issue. John C. Breckinridge was selected
by the Fireaters from the Deep South. Breckinridge supported extending
slavery into territories whose voters did not want it. A fourth party
called the Constitutional Union Party made up of die-hard former
Southern Whigs and Know Nothings who felt they could support neither
the Democratic Party nor the Republican Party was formed. They nominated
John Bell of Tennessee for President. The party platform advocated
compromise to save the Union, with the slogan “the Union as it is, and
the Constitution as it is.”
The voter turnout rate in 1860 was the second-highest on record
(81.2%, second only to 1876, with 81.8%). The voter turnout in 2008 of
56.8% was the highest for a Presidential election since 1968.
Nominee: Abraham Lincoln Nominee: John C. Breckinridge
Party: Republican Party: Southern Democrat
% of Vote: 39.8% % of Vote: 18.1%
Electoral Votes: 180 Electoral Votes: 72
Nominee: John Bell Nominee: Stephen A. Douglass
Party: Constitutional Union Party: Northern Democrat
% of Vote: 12.6% % of Vote: 29.5%
Electoral Votes: 39 Electoral Votes: 12
As the 1850s progressed the firebrands in the North and South became
more entrenched in their dogmatic positions. The Transcendental
Generation Prophets came to power and compromise was no longer an
option. Both Lincoln and Jefferson Davis were from this Prophet
generation. Aging Prophets are always the moralistic drivers of Fourth
Turnings. Strauss & Howe stress the importance of the Prophet Generation during a Fourth Turning:
A Crisis catalyst occurs shortly
after the old Prophet archetype reaches its apex of societal leadership,
when its inclinations are least checked by others. A regeneracy comes
as the Prophet abandons any idea of deferral or retreat and binds the
society to a Crisis course. A climax occurs when the Prophet expends its
last burst of passion, just before descending rapidly from power.
The election of Abraham Lincoln proved to be the catalyst for the
Crisis. Seven southern states seceded from the Union before Lincoln took
office. The attack on Fort Sumter started a spiral of carnage and
butchery that could not be reversed. The Crisis reached regeneracy after
the Union debacle during the First Battle of Bull Run. Lincoln realized
winning this war would require full mobilization and all out war. He
ordered the enlistment of 500,000 soldiers, suspension of habeas corpus,
taxation, and expansion of government power. The next four years were a
swirl of savagery and unprecedented tragedy. It convulsed to a chaotic
conclusion with the surrender at Appomattox and assassination of Lincoln
in the same week. The Crisis exhausted itself with the climax seeming
more like a defeat than a victory.
Are the actions of politicians 150 years ago worth understanding in
order to determine how our current Crisis will develop? Since every
Crisis period has the exact same generational configuration and
generations react to events in similar manner, I believe it is
worthwhile to examine the Civil War dynamics. Historian Gordon Leidner’s
conclusions about the Civil War period are revealing:
- Although the majority of the American people– including many
moderate politicians like Abraham Lincoln–wanted to avoid Civil War and
were content to allow slavery to die a slow, inevitable death, the most
influential political leaders of the day were not. - On the southern side, “fire-eaters” like Robert Rhett and
William Yancey were willing to make war to guarantee the propagation of
their “right” to own slaves. - On the northern side, abolitionists like John Brown and Henry
Ward Beecher of Connecticut were willing to make war in order to put an
immediate end to the institution of slavery. - Southern politicians convinced their majority that the North was
threatening their way of life and their culture. Northern politicians
convinced their majority that the South, if allowed to secede, was
really striking a serious blow at democratic government. In these
arguments, both southern and northern politicians were speaking the
truth–but not “the whole truth.” - It was also about the constitutional argument over whether or
not a state had a right to leave the Union, and–of primary concern to
most southern soldiers–the continuation of antebellum southern culture.
Although the majority of Southerners had little interest in slaves,
slavery was a primary interest of Southern politicians–and consequently
the underlying cause of the South’s desire to seek independence and
state rights.
The insights gained from the Civil War Crisis are that compromise and
moderation are discarded. The firebrands control the field. The
Prophets push for an all out war to settle the pressing issues of the
day. They are willing to sacrifice the young in their moralistic fervor
to satisfy their vision of the future. The final verdict will depend on
the strength, judgment, and wisdom of the Prophet leaders during a
Crisis.
2012 Election – Crisis Leader Sets Stage for Dark Days Ahead
Nomad (Gen X) Prophet (Boomer) Prophet (Boomer)
Prophet (Boomer) Nomad (Gen X) Prophet (Boomer)
Artist (Silent)
By 2012 we will have reached the 7th year of this Crisis. The linear
thinking media and supposed “thought leaders” are convinced that the
worst days of this Crisis have passed. They believe that the Federal
Reserve and Government leaders have taken the proper actions to avert a
Great Depression. They will be shocked when the Crisis deepens and gets
far worse than today. Every action taken by our leaders since 2005 has
worsened the Crisis. Rather than letting the culprits of the financial
crisis fail, they have propped up these criminal institutions with
taxpayer funds. By not accepting the pain early in this Crisis, these
leaders have ensured that this Crisis will be more tragic, brutal and
wrenching. The mood of the country continues to darken, even as the
mainstream media and government cheerleaders falsely insist that things
are getting better.
By year 7 of the American Revolution Crisis, George Washington was on
the verge of defeating the British at Yorktown and bringing that Crisis
to a positive conclusion. The Civil War Crisis had concluded with Union
victory by year 5. The Great Depression/WWII Crisis was in a lull
period, with GDP growing by 13% in 1936 as government spending and
personal consumption surged. The economy gave the appearance of recovery
because FDR’s New Deal programs created make work schemes using
government funds. Americans know the 1930s as the Great Depression. As
proof of how meaningless GDP calculations are versus how real Americans
are affected, the GDP increased by 63% in the four year period between
1934 and 1937. Despite this phenomenal growth, the unemployment rate
remained at 17%. In comparison, GDP has advanced by only 5.1% from the
bottom in the 2nd quarter of 2009 until today and the unemployment rate
on a comparable basis is 23%. Franklin Delano Roosevelt won the 1936
election over Alfred Landon in one of the greatest landslides in
history, with 523 electoral votes to Landon’s 8.
The current Crisis appears to be in a lull similar to the 1930s.
Government actions can mask deeper problems for awhile, but pressure
continue to build. The problems did not go away. The bad debts did not
disappear. The Wall Street criminals are still free to loot the American
middle class. No one has been prosecuted for the greatest financial
fraud in history. The National Debt continues to balloon by $4 billion
per day. The USD is slowly being replaced as the worldwide reserve
currency. Political ideologues have taken control of both parties.
Worldwide trade tensions and social contract broken promises are leading
to riots and chaos across the Europe. The onset of peak cheap oil is
raising prices for fuel and food and setting the stage for coming
resource wars. Fundamentalist religious leaders are pushing for a
religious war between Christianity and Islam. The extremists are gaining
control of the agenda.
The sudden shift in mood has occurred. The hard working middle class
of this country are frustrated, angry and feel betrayed by their
leaders. The American people are fed up with all politicians. The
liberal ideologues and conservative ideologues have staked out immovable
positions on social, financial, and foreign trade issues. Compromise is
as likely as it was in 1860. The Tea Party will not compromise. Their
agenda is to change politics in Washington DC. They will be a thorn in
both party’s side. The possibility of the Tea Party becoming a 3rd party
is quite possible. This brings us to the 2012 Presidential election.
The current configuration of Congress guarantees that absolutely nothing
will get done in the next two years. Both parties will ignore the
looming disaster of debt, devaluation, and depression as they position
themselves for the 2012 election. The Crisis has not yet entered the
regeneracy stage. This is the stage where the country unifies behind a
leader and deals with the sudden threats that previously have been
ignored or deferred, but which are now perceived as dire. The likely
threats are the National Debt, a currency collapse, the Christian/Muslim
conflict, Peak Oil, the rise of China, or more likely a combination of
some of these issues.
Strauss & Howe‘s words regarding the approaching Crisis, written in 1997, are eerie and haunting:
“In retrospect, the spark might seem
as ominous as a financial crash, as ordinary as a national election, or
as trivial as a Tea Party. The catalyst will unfold according to a basic
Crisis dynamic that underlies all of these scenarios: An initial spark
will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further
emergencies. The core elements of these scenarios (debt, civic decay,
global disorder) will matter more than the details, which the catalyst
will juxtapose and connect in some unknowable way. If foreign societies
are also entering a Fourth Turning, this could accelerate the chain
reaction. At home and abroad, these events will reflect the tearing of
the civic fabric at points of extreme vulnerability – problem areas
where America will have neglected, denied, or delayed needed action.”
As I try to assess the next phase of this Crisis, I have been seeking
guidance from previous Fourth Turnings. At this juncture, the Crisis
seems to have aspects of the Great Depression/World War II and Civil War
Fourth Turnings. A financial crisis morphed into recession, much like
the 1929 Crash and subsequent recession. Like the Great Depression,
government borrowing and spending has given the false hope of recovery.
The difference is that government actions have failed to generate a
strong rebound in GDP and unemployment continues to ratchet higher. A
landslide election victory by Barack Obama in 2012 is not only
impossible; he may not even be the Democratic nominee. The 2012
Presidential election is already destined to be a defining moment in our
country’s history. The future path, intensity and pain of this Crisis
will be greatly impacted by the outcome of this election. The darkening
skies of Crisis are likely to become more threatening by 2012.
A recent Gallup poll gives an early indication of the likely
Republican nominee in 2012. The front runners (Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin)
have remained static, while the firebrands (Newt Gingrich, Mike
Huckabee) have gained ground. The move towards a moralistic Prophet
summoner of human sacrifice is not a surprise. The financial and world
events that lead up to the 2012 election will determine which candidate
is selected from the Republican field. The firebrands are likely to push
to resolve ever-deepening moral choices through military force.
Usually an incumbent President can be sure of re-nomination as the
Democratic candidate, but Obama’s popularity is so low and his
effectiveness as President has been so wanting that a challenge from
Hillary Clinton is a distinct possibility. Clinton has the Prophet
persona and would command the respect of Americans looking for foreign
relations expertise. A failed challenge to Obama’s nomination would
likely weaken Obama and allow the Republican candidate an easy victory. A
potential wildcard would be an insurgent independent campaign by
billionaire Michael Bloomberg. His financial background and moderate
positions on social issues could attract moderate Republican and
Democratic voters. Another possibility is that the Tea Party is unable
to assimilate within the Republican Party and decides to nominate its
own candidate. This could lead to an 1860 like situation, with four
candidates vying for the Presidency. The victor in this scenario might
need to be selected by the Electoral College. The next President
could be elected with less than 40% of the popular vote. Could this
election result lead to secession movement? Will large segments of the
population not accept the election verdict?
Will America Survive this Fourth Turning?
We are poised on the brink of the regeneracy phase of this Fourth
Turning. The open question is what incident or events will lead to
Americans rallying around a Prophet leader. Regeneracy during the
American Revolution occurred in 1776 with the Declaration of
Independence. It occurred during the Civil War when Lincoln demanded
full mobilization and total war after the Battle of Bull Run. The
election of FDR in 1932 produced a regeneracy based upon his New Deal
policies. The issues confronting our nation appear intractable. The
government “solutions” to the initial phase of this Crisis have been to
paper over bad debts, prop up insolvent financial institutions, defer
hard entitlement choices, debase the currency in an effort to alleviate
overwhelming levels of government debt, ignore the imminent implications
of cheap peak oil, and waging never ending lifeblood draining wars
on terror. Ben Bernanke, a self described “expert” on the Great
Depression, and his Federal Reserve, which has inflated away 96% of the
USD purchasing power since 1913, will be the likely culprit in the next
phase of this Crisis. Countries around the world are scrambling to
reduce their exposure to the USD. Ben Bernanke has proven unable
to comprehend the most basic economic signals (housing collapse,
derivatives, Wall Street fraud). He will be blindsided by the sudden
collapse of the US currency.
It is likely that phase two of this financial Crisis will lead to the
election of a dogmatic Republican Prophet Boomer in 2012. This person
will take office in January, 2013, eight years into this Fourth Turning.
They will be faced with the realization that peak cheap oil is a fact,
as even the linearist thinkers realize that technology and green energy
will not provide the bumper sticker solution for our oil dependent
society. The devastating combination of a currency collapse, oil supply
shortages, and the draining war on terror will either unify the country
behind the Prophet leader in their effort to save the country or it
could result in the country’s fabric tearing apart with the Federal
government losing control of sections of the country. A World War over
dwindling natural resources is easily foreseeable. The actual denouement
of events remain a mystery. Much will depend on the leader we choose.
Much will depend on the strength, fortitude, and sacrifice of the
American people.
Strauss & Howe provide four possible outcomes to our current Crisis:
-
This Fourth Turning could mark the
end of man. It could be an omnicidal Armageddon, destroying everything,
leaving nothing. If mankind ever extinguishes itself, this will probably
happen when its dominant civilization triggers a Fourth Turning that
ends horribly. For this Fourth Turning to put an end to all this would
require an extremely unlikely blend of social disaster, human
malevolence, technological perfection and bad luck. -
The Fourth Turning could mark the
end of modernity. The Western saecular rythm – which began in the
mid-fifteenth century with the Renaissance – could come to an abrupt
terminus. The seventh modern saeculum would be the last. This too could
come from total war, terrible but not final. There could be a complete
collapse of science, culture, politics, and society. Such a dire result
would probably happen only when a dominant nation (like today’s America)
lets a Fourth Turning ekpyrosis engulf the planet. But this outcome is
well within the reach of foreseeable technology and malevolence. -
The Fourth Turning could spare
modernity but mark the end of our nation. It could close the book on the
political constitution, popular culture, and moral standing that the
word America has come to signify. The nation has
endured for three saecula; Rome lasted twelve, the Soviet Union only
one. Fourth Turnings are critical thresholds for national survival. Each
of the last three American Crises produced moments of extreme danger:
In the Revolution, the very birth of the republic hung by a thread in
more than one battle. In the Civil War, the union barely survived a
four-year slaughter that in its own time was regarded as the most lethal
war in history. In World War II, the nation destroyed an enemy of
democracy that for a time was winning; had the enemy won, America might
have itself been destroyed. In all likelihood, the next Crisis will
present the nation with a threat and a consequence on a similar scale. -
Or the Fourth Turning could simply
mark the end of the Millennial Saeculum. Mankind, modernity, and America
would all persevere. Afterward, there would be a new mood, a new High,
and a new saeculum. America would be reborn. But, reborn, it would not
be the same.
The Fourth Turning is not a prophecy of doom. It is not some sort of Nostradamus like prediction of what will happen on a certain date. The Fourth Turning is
part of a cycle of history tied to a long human life that has
happened before and hopefully will happen again. Our trials await. Will
America respond with strength of character, wise choices, and a
willingness to sacrifice for future unborn generations? It is time to
find out.
For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die;
a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted;
a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted;
A time to kill, and a time to heal;
a time to break down, and a time to build up;
a time to break down, and a time to build up;
A time to weep, and a time to laugh;
a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
A time to throw away stones, and a time to gather stones together;
a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
A time to seek, and a time to lose;
a time to keep, and a time to throw away;
A time to tear, and a time to sew;
a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
A time to love, and a time to hate;
a time for war, and a time for peace.
Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8
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Problem is that what you call "shit that doesn't work," someone else calls "my government-paid meal ticket."
"on identifying what are the fundamental problems of modern mankind "
....women in the workforce??
Here are a few:
- fiat money
- governments
- fractional reserve practices
- destruction of individualism
- fictions widely adopted as facts
- destruction of principles of ethics
- domination of the world by predators, not producers
and, of course...
- morons in the workplace
Man, this is the second time you've made that comment--are you serious??
if you quote the bible again i'm gonna shit in your yard.
Try to not be an ass, little buddy...
I'm not sure which is more disheartening about our society -- we need a strong leader or we want a strong leader.
Will you be here in 2012? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_unabomber_property
After reading Kaczynski's manifesto, I'd say he was pretty much spot-on, except for perhaps the targets he chose.
Criswell wrote several books of predictions, including 1968's Criswell Predicts: From Now to the Year 2000. In it, he claimed that Denver would be struck by a ray from space that would cause all metal to adopt the qualities of rubber, leading to horrific accidents at amusement parks[1]. He predicted mass cannibalism[2] and the end of planet Earth, which he set as happening on August 18, 1999[2].
Criswell was a student of history. He believed history repeated itself, that the United States were the "modern Romans". Each day, he read the St. Louis Post-Dispatch looking for clues for his predictions. In later years, he became obsessed with the Maya calendar and read all he could find. Just prior to his death, he told people that his "end of the world predictions" were incorrect by a dozen years and that the world would end on the morning of the winter solstice in 2012[citation needed],the last day of current 5,000-plus years cycle of the Mayan calendar.
Some sources claim Criswell's most famous prediction was on The Jack Paar Program (1962–65) in March 1963, when he predicted John F. Kennedy would not run for reelection in 1964 because something was going to happen to him in November 1963.[3]
http://www.criswellpredicts.com/criswell_predicted.htm
Criswell's Predictions
Throughout the '60s, Criswell claimed to have predicted everything from the deaths of Jayne Mansfield and Martin Luther King to the gubernatorial election of Ronald Reagan.In 1968, his first book, Criswell Predicts, detailed future world's leaders, technology, wars, and of course the end of the world. An interesting read, you can still find this book occasionally on eBay.com and on amazon.com.
Below are just a few examples from this book. Some may leave you wondering - 'How did I miss that'? I leave it up to you the reader to determine if Criswell was right, wrong or just misinterpreted. Enjoy....
Homosexual Cities (p. 13)I predict that perversion will flood the land beginning in 1970. I predict a series of homosexual cities, small, compact, carefully planned areas, will soon be blatantly advertised and exist from coast to coast. These compact communities will be complete with stores, churches, bars and restaurants which will put the olden Greeks or Romans to shame with their organized orgies. You will be able to find them near Boston, Des Moines, Columbus, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., San Francisco, St. Louis, New Orleans, Dallas, and Miami.
Much thought and planning will be expended in setting up these communities where perversion will parade shamelessly. And all this will be within the law because the perverted will claim they have been discriminated against. The Supreme Court will rule that whatever these consenting adult males, or females, wish to do, they can!
Space Stations (p. 16)The U.S. and Russia will, separately and jointly, during the 1970s begin to set up space stations. Progress will be slow until the late 1970s when discovery of antimagnetic forces will free man from the laws of gravity and make space travel without rocket propulsion possible.
I predict that man's exploration of space and the building of space stations will be the salvation of the human race.
By 1999 there will be more than 200 of these space stations in existence. They will house entire colonies—men, women, and children.
When the earth is destroyed on August 18, 1999, these space colonists will be the only Earth-humans left in the Universe.
Mother Earth (p. 18)Can our whirling, turning, churning earth last out the night? Our geologists tell us that the danger to Mother Earth lies not in the uncharted vast of outer space, but from inner-earth! ... Here is what will more than likely happen according to geologists: Small tidal waves will play havoc for no reason at all. The surface of the earth will bulge ever so slightly and highways will slightly buckle. Foundations will tip, and floors will slant. When you pour a cup of coffee or a glass of water, the rim will not level. Telephone coin boxes and vending machines will refuse to work. Delicate instruments will go haywire. Elevators will go out of whack. Jukeboxes will be mute. Radio and TV will fail. All electric power, gas and water service will cease. And then will come the time when garbage cans roll across the street for no apparent reason. Then and only then will you realize the advanced corrosion spelling the end of our Earth. The seas will quickly fill up with a gooey mass of inner-earth rubble. Our streets and city lots, farms, and deserts will bubble up like a festered oil, marking the complete collapse. Has this happened before? More than likely. And it will again happen in your incredible future.
Television Education (p. 19)I predict education will be given to children through the television screen, no personal teachers, but there will be a warden on duty to see that one hundred percent interest is sustained. Later, education-memory pills will help give you all of the education you can possibly use.
Aphrodisiacal Era (p. 21)I predict that our own United States will in the future be swept by the popular clouds of an aphrodisiacal fragrance. ... This aroma will fill every man and woman who inhales it with uncontrolled passion. It will be sold at first "underground" like LSD or STP today. But it will soon become easily available. ...
I predict that the sex urge will advance rapidly and many men will flagrantly expose themselves in public. Grandfathers will be accused of seducing their granddaughters and uncles will be jailed under similar crimes. Women will begin to think more of their appearance and they will have new hair styles, more attractive clothing and will use more cosmetics than ever before. [T]he driving sex urge will eventually cause orgies even greater than those of decadent Rome during the reign of the unmentionable Caesars. ... In Los Angeles, California, particularly Hollywood, sex acts will be performed openly, unashamedly on the streets. I predict that this will be difficult to control, for even the members of the law enforcement agencies will be dominated by the powerful cloud of aphrodisiac. Many cases of incest will be reported.
I predict a wealthy San Francisco attorney will announce his marriage to his mother and a Hollywood producer will openly declare his daughter is going to bear his child, and a young man in Arkansas will ask to be legally wed to his pet cat. ...
Date of the aphrodisiacal era: May 1, 1988, to March 30, 1989.
The Destruction Of Denver, Colorado (p. 29)I predict that this catastrophe will take place during the tourist season and the fun-loving people in the amusement zone will suddenly find their day of pleasure turned into one of horror. A roller coaster will rise and sway, throwing cars and occupants to the ground below. A Ferris wheel will collapse and carry many children to untimely deaths. A penny arcade will become a dungeon of doom, a canopy of a merry-go-round will plunge down upon its most innocent riders. I predict only silence will reign where there was once laughter and gaiety. The citizenry of this Colorado city will find themselves enveloped in a jelly-like substance that was once brick, concrete, steel and lumber. They will be unable to escape for it will be impossible to cut through or tear this substance. Although soft and pliable it will still retain the strength and weight formerly possessed. I predict in the outskirts the conditions will not be as serious but fleeing people will find themselves mired in roadways and hardly able to move.
I predict that scientists from all over the world will be called upon to help but no one will be able to offer relief for they will not be able to conquer this terrible force, this mysterious force from outer space. Gradually, as conditions ease survivors will be evacuated but this will become a dead city and will never again be reborn. I predict this unfortunate community will be a victim of elements beyond our control and will always be remembered until the end of time. I predict the name of the city will be Denver, Colorado. The date: June 9, 1989.
Castro Assassination (p. 31)I predict the assassination of Fidel Castro by a woman, on August 9, 1970.
American Tragedy (p. 31)I predict that tragedy will once again strike one of America's best known families, shortly after its most widely loved member has remarried. Her remarriage will be a mistake.
The Great Drought And Flood (p. 41)I predict that in the year 1977 the face of the earth will be completely changed. Rain will not fall for a period of ten months. I predict that our great lakes will become beds of sand and rivers will slow down to a trickle. ... The results of this drought will be catastrophic. I predict starvation, disease, insanity and death on an unprecedented scale. Hospitals will be overburdened and the death rate will be so high that the dead will remain unburied for weeks at a time. This will be known as the era of the black death, the twentieth-century black death. I predict that New York City will become a ghost town with industry at a standstill, for power will go dead, subways will be emptied and out of service, and the entire transportation system of this once steaming metropolis will be totally crippled. The populace will leave by the thousands in their search for water. The nation's highways will be filled with helpless, struggling people.
In the great Midwest, I predict that the dust bowl of Kansas will be the death trap for countless humans and animals. Farms, fields and homesteads will be covered by mountains of sand and dust and no form of life can exist.
Ronald Reagan (p. 53)I predict that Ronald Reagan will not seek reelection as Governor of California.
Septuplets (p. 57)I predict that a set of septuplets, all boys, will be born in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, on January 19, 1973. All will live—the first such case in history.
Interplanetary (p. 57)Las Vegas, Nevada, March 10, 1990: The very first Interplanetary Convention will be held in the new Convention Center on the famed Strip with colony citizens of Mars, Venus, Neptune and the Moon in full representation; Governor Sawyer will make the opening welcome address.
Meteor Destroys London: 1988 (p. 79)London, England, will be the target of this heartless killer from outer space. The meteor will strike in a heavily populated sector of London and will hit with unprecedented force, rocking the earth for hundreds of miles and slightly shifting the position of the earth. Shocks will be felt as far away as Paris, Lisbon, Denmark, Australia, India, China, South Africa, South America, and Washington, D.C. I predict that the once proud city of London will be a tomb of death. Entire slum areas will be completely wiped out. Date: October 18, 1988.
Kansas (p. 94)I predict that Kansas will become the most important state in the United States, due to the moving of the Federal capital from Washington, D.C., to Wichita. The broad plains and prairies will be a roof above multi-story government buildings, constructed wholly underground. The largest airports in the world will be constructed in Kansas to serve the needs of the new capital of the United States.
Rhode Island (p. 105)I predict that Rhode Island will be the center of a new movement of the youth of the nation that will make the hippie movement look normal. The next movement will be youth's rebellion through nudism. And this movement will begin in Rhode Island and spread throughout the land.
South Dakota (p. 105)I predict that South Dakota will become the first state to legalize prostitution and the sale of marijuana. I predict that a group of ruthless men will control the state government of South Dakota in the late 1970s and their open traffic in prostitution and drugs will cause repercussions throughout the country.
Vermont (p. 107)I predict that on February 11, 1981, there will be an abortive attempt by a foreign power to bomb the United States with atomic missiles. Most of the missiles will be destroyed by anti-missile missiles, but several will be only driven off course and will drop on the helpless state of Vermont. The death toll on that date will exceed 50,000 persons.
New York City And The Shifting Coastline (p. 112)New York will not exist as we know it today after January 21, 1980. Shifting ocean currents and earth tremors will begin to remake the eastern coast of the United States beginning in 1971. At first the changes will be small, but within three years our geologists will know what is happening. As the coast-line shifts, the land will sink and the ocean will pour inland. Before 1978, Long Island will be mostly underwater. Only the areas that can be protected by hastily erected dikes will escape—and they, not for long. Manhattan will become a city of canals, like Venice. Billions of dollars will be spent to save New York, but by 1980, all efforts will have failed and a new New York will rise, further inland, at a great expense.
Men Become Cannibals (p. 115)I predict an outburst of cannibalism that will terrorize the population of one of the industrial cites in the state of Pennsylvania—Pittsburgh. Mass mournings will be held for the victims. A smile will be unknown. The fate of this city of Pittsburgh will never be forgotten... Date: November 28 to December 21, 1980.
John F. Kennedy, Jr. (p. 118)I predict that John F. Kennedy Jr. will serve the state of Massachusetts as a U.S. Senator but will not seek the presidency of the United States.
The End of the World
The end of the world, it is written in Criswell Predicts, will take place Wednesday, Aug. 18, 1999. That day, every point on earth will be covered by a black rainbow—not just any black rainbow, mind you, but "a jet-black rainbow; an ebony rainbow; a black rainbow which will signify the coming suffocation of our world. This black rainbow will seemingly bring about, through some mysterious force beyond our comprehension, a lack of oxygen. It will draw the oxygen from our atmosphere, as a huge snake encircling the world and feeding upon the oxygen which we need to exist. Hour after hour, it will grow worse. And we will grow weaker. It is through this that we will be so weakened that when the final end arrives, we will go silently, we will go gasping for breath, and then there will be only silence on the earth."
info@criswellpredicts.com | 2010 © CriswellPredicts.
Sounds like he missed one or two of those . . .
Vermont might of been destroyed... who would know?
And to think this is out of print.
I believe he was five hundred years too late with his Hollywood producer father-child thing, and mistook his prescience for the Lucretia Borgia story.
Good thing I turned in my tin-foil beanie for a steel helmet, lined with Silver!
He's just off by 100 years - give it time....
I can't decide whether this is a half-baked attempt to sell a bad book, or if it's a lame story planted by Goldman Sachs in order to feed more dummies to the Squeeze Machine.
This is SmokeyQuinn's umpteenth, shit-sandwich attempt to sell a stupid-bad book. What's the come away message of all this blah...blah...blah... "Turnings"... blah...blah?
What's the punch line of this joke of an article?
SmokeyQuinn is concrete-stupid about the Nazis behind the 9/11 Lies and frequently posts these long and hollow diatribes which mean nothing and go nowhere into exposing the 'In-Your-Face Fascism' of the USSA's economic/political system.
You got him pegged antidis. Just more lame stories planted by a MORON to confuse more dummies for the "Squeeze Machine."
(*now watch SmokeyQuinn respond with his anally fixated, obscene response based on his innate love of bestiality.)
Bah Bah
So there you are...MORON... out in your sheep-shit paddock...getting your pebbles off with your favorite fat ewe... Avalon!
You and your alter-ego, Smokey can take "Fourth Turnings" with her.
So you're the infamous loser David Pierre? Not pleased to meet you. You are a fucking idiot. No wonder everyone hates your guts.
It would be interesting to see a comparison between Strauss& Howe's work and Kondratieff's long wave cycle theory. To tie the two together might actually provide civilization with a historical analysis that proves how the long term debt cycle effects generational development in a negative and destructive way.
What is at stake is the singular voice of a human being to be Heard, Acknowledged and Consecrated BEFORE the turmoils and silent designs of Corporations.
To firstly Consecrate the Rights of all Human Beings wherever they may be.
To relativize the role and power of Corporations in our World/Republic/Society.
A Corporation is NOT a Citizen. A Corporation is NOT a human being.
Banking, energy, pharma, food, medical treatment, education, police and military power have become insular voices within a higher Corporate power structure, whereby their needs are expressed in "laws" written by themselves and later enforced by themselves at the expense of Citizens and other human beings alike.
Name one of these industries that is not associated with greed, corruption or malfeasance in this age.
This "Fourth Turing" is all about Citizens verses Corporate power.
Who will win?
That was what the 'tea party" was about before it was hoodwinked by the republican caste. Good folks are getting madder at the daily injustice found in America, never mind the bleak "job" situation and the seemingly absent "government" - except when they come to hassle you - sadly,the New Red Coats.
Nothing was solved by the 2010 elections. Its going to get worse. All those derivatives (700 trillion?) are still lurking about and the current POMO/QE ponzi is just shuffling the liability. We learned nothing from LTCM. The Fed is still not transparent or audited. Financial "markets" no longer exist, except for a dozen well placed computers pretending to do G-d's work.
Every family (are there any left?) must sit down at the dinner table (remember those days?) and draw their line in the sand to otherwise give themselves an acid test for how ridiculous things are getting.
There is no bunker to hide in.
There is no money to stash in a mattress.
There is no rainbow.
This isn't about the last 2 years. Its about the last 10+ on top of a half century of slow decline. Add to that oil.
My only hysterical advice is;
Don't live in a place where the weather can kill you.
Don't live in a "food desert."
Start talking to your neighbors and get your family living closer to you.
Tribes matter.
what will happen to you if you typed God ??
I tried it once and all the hair on my head turned white.
That was brilliant colonel, made me choke on my cigar smoke...
That Colonel will gitcha.
He had me spray beer on my monitor and keyboard!
Nothing. Its not a Jewish thing.
I just need to be respectful about one thing in my life and G-d is it.
+1
Where, exactly, might that be?
There are no Lincolns or FDRs or Washingtons in the wings. 2012 might cause the election of some bozo who could really fuck things up.
See list above -- all bozos. Not a sane person in the lot.
Of course, I'm a bit partial to Dr. Paul, but he has his shortcomings.
What's wrong with Washington?
There are no Lincolns or FDRs or Washingtons in the wings. 2012 might cause the election of some bozo who could really fuck things up.
Doug, anyone ever tell 'ya you have a tendancy to repeat yourself?
LOL. It's always good to smile after reading a really grim essay.
these are the conversations that show that history is written by the victor....
Obama is going to be reelected. My guess is there is a strong 3rd party candidate that splits the Republican vote like Perot did...maybe not a huge percentage, but enough to let Obama get the majority.
Perhaps, unless there is a DWTS final or some other important thing going on to distract the masses.........
We should be so lucky that there are no lincolns or fdrs. They're 2 of the 4 worst presidents in history.
Amen!
+1865
Sigh, basing a lot on theory that only looks at the US. I know that as an American I'm supposed to see the US as the entire plant and the rest of the globe as a tiny filthy place that only exists to service us, but come on. Got to think history started before 1776, and huh didn't WW2 start in Europe and the USA sat out the first few years. Wow amazing that the Turnings based on American generations caused the would be a war in Europe and Depression. To bad they missed WW1, which was the real cause of WW2.
All this theory boils down to is "Bad shit happens. Really bad shit happens bad enough to scare the memory of people at least once ever 100 years". If I'm reading this right it means that assuming Earth is still around we are due for a colossal boom right? All the other turnings had a boom after the big disaster.
Do some basic research before trashing something. Strauss & Howe can trace the theory back to the 1400s.
Open your mind.
http://www.fourthturning.com/my_html/body_turnings_in_history.html
If you're looking to sell a book, fair enough, but this is rubbish.
Roflol wait wait wait. So the Napoleonic wars was the "Era of Good Feelings" for the entire planet? I must have missed that part in the history books where Napoleon roamed Europe with flowers and candy! And to think that The Napoleonic wars were a major turning point in Europe, to bad they don't count since they miss the cut off in years. Sorry Napoleon to the dustbin of history with you! Oh and that War of 1812 and burning of Washington, was really a kegger gone out of control. You know those Brits love to party!
Also the 7 Years War, kinda big deal. Way more earth shaking at the time then American revolution, America a bit player in the world for a long time. Hell that war ended Poland as a nation state for a while. Oh and in that same period was the War of Austrian Succession, also kinda big.
Hell miss the revolutions of 1848 too! That was a major event in Europe, not so in the US.
This chart is killing me. I can pick out major wars and unraveling events for the world in basically all the eras they have mentioned. If you cherry pick your data then sure ever 100 years works just fine. I spent time looking at this theory and they basically cater to people who only know a little bit about history and form the US side. Do generations have an impact on each other, sure. But to try to turn it into astrology is bull. This is no different then doing a cultural cold reading.
Your ignorance is breathtaking to behold. Keep spewing out your drivel for all to see. Critical thinking is a concept beyond your reach. How sad. Your first post proved to be ridiculous, pompous and completely wrong, but still you feel compelled to look like a fool again.
Cool, keep selling the cultural astrology. The nice thing about astrology is people tend to remember the hits not the misses so you'll be safe. I suppose you probably are not as charismatic as John Edwards http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edward
But please explain the Napoleonic wars in your clever little system. I'm dieing to hear about it. Seems to me that really unraveled society and changed it massively...but to bad Napoleon was not younger.
And please explain to me how WW1 did not unravel society? Since it caused WW2 and the Russian Revolution and in many ways was a much larger event then WW2. What of these major historical events that change history that don't fall into your timeline?
Defend your ideas or don't. I don't care. But attacking people personally for pointing out flaws is extremely childish. But I suppose in academia one learns the best way to defend one's idea is personal attacks. "I'm right and your dumb" stopped working when we were children and I would expect a little bit more.
You are a pompous ass. Did I hurt your feelings you prick. Read the fucking book and try to learn something before you post ridiculous bullshit about something you know nothing about. You trashed the article without any facts to back up your drivel.
I'm not in academia. Wrong again. Your research skills are sorely lacking. Shameful is the perfect alias for you.
Ah the personal attack as expected. Quite predictable. You make a convincing argument for yourself and book. Now is this the same Jim Quinn that bills himself as being at an Ivy League college? So not an academic, so what is t you do for them if they don't have you teaching?
As to trashing the article, I attack the central precept that we are locked into some silly generation cycle. This cycle ignores HUGE events because it does not fall into the right generation. Kind of a major flaw for a model. When one must remove WW1 and Napoleonic Wars as outliers that's pretty bad.
Again I will ask you to explain Napoleon. I know you cannot and this enrages you. That's fine but really a little advice when someone points out your fraud, it's better to ignore it then mount a foolish public attack. Ignore it and can argue did not see it, to engage and come off like a petulant child is just in bad form.
Convincing someone of your intellect is impossible. You are too smart and have already disregarded the theory even though you know absolutely nothing about it. Instead you will pompously post your enlightened opinion about the theory. When I pointed out that you were wrong, you then got even more pompous. You reveal much about yourself.
You aren't used to being called out for being a douchebag.
You did feel the necessity to find out who I was. That is the sign of a desperate idiot trying to gain the upper hand in the debate. Your display of ignorance and offense at being personally attacked is hysterical.
If you come to a gunfight, don't come with your dick in your hand.
Look up the "Age of Kali" on wikipedia, perhaps your theory(s) are a tad short-sighted.
Jim quinn SAID (question of identity here):
"You are a pompous ass. Did I hurt your feelings you prick. Read the fucking book"
Ah, so, a man of 'the book' like christians, Islamics, jews...namely self-designated follower/slave-class who would dare not commit the pretense of being better than the Authority..BY CRITICAL, skeptical, cynical, ...even sarcastic orientation..Blasphemy RIGHT, no...? "if you don't KNOW who the sucker at the gaming table IS, THEN its YOU!
Ad Hominem statements, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
you'd be devastated in a courtroom...
Based on your response you must be a douchebag lawyer. I'm not in a fucking courtroom, you moron.
SmokeyQuinn:
You are before the open court of public opinion here of ZH and you are losing big time.
Kind of miss having a trusty delete button don't ya... MORON.
Oh Yes!...Some basic research.
Let's do some basic research on SmokeyQuinn.
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SMOKEYQUINN is up to his usual obscene replies ... cut and paste... plagiarism...
Go back using these links and read SmokeyQuinn's history.
See:
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Some classic shit SmokeyQuinn runs on his blog.
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Jason Rines, Smokey Quinn's former webmaster...
"Smokey and Jim are the same people, yes. I mapped both the I.P.'s back to his office at Wharton."
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Quinn is the problem... not just a symptom.
He works as an accountant at The Wharton School of Business but spends his entire business day on his sheep-shit paddock of a website.
Smokey Quinn is sucking on the state's teet for his big paycheck as he tries to make himself out as some sort of guru (lol) with his flaccid economic articles.
He writes about all the poor people who abuse the system while he basically does nothing all day but jerk off on his blog pretending to have all the answers.
The guy is absolutely stupid about 9/11 truth and believes everything in the offical lies of the Mafia/Government conspiracy theory.
"YUP!... Three buildings just fall down...end of story."
He's just a convenient tool for the system...spouting economic BS.
His previous webmaster dumped him after a year of bigotry and racist posting that attracted some very strange followers. Quinn is a hypocrite surrounding himself by sycophants.
SmokeyQuinn's is an angry, hillbilly: an ivory tower right wing reactionary. Quinn sucks at the government tit while pretending to have all these great "Fourth Turding" insights!
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SmokeyQuinn:
Go on back to your shit blog! You will always have 'your sheep' who will still respect you in the morning.
Nice cut and paste sheep boy. How pathetic and sad. Do you have your favorite t-shirt on? WHAT ABOUT BUILDING 7
You would think an American Traitor with an IQ of 60 would stay under his Canadian rock. But instead you crawl out for all the world to see that you are a blithering idiot.
SmokeyQuinn:
And...
Is that the best you can come up with? You are really slipping up with your foul-mouth retorts.
Answer your own question... MORON!
"WHAT ABOUT BUILDING 7"?
You still ignorant enough to believe it just blew itself up because of a little bit of fire?
I saw George Bush and Dick Cheney rigging building 7 with explosives. You are crazier than a shithouse rat.
JFC, Pierre, do you do anything besides fuck sheep and slander Quinn? Every article Quinn posts, you come on and throw up with your 9/11 conspiracy theory shit. Every regular on Quinn's site knows he and I are different people. Shit, I've been at war with him all weekend on his site over the war with the diaperheads. You are a traitor to your country, but worse, you are a delusional, psychotic inbred who belongs in a psych ward. Eat shit. Respectfully, Smokey.
SmokeyQuinn has just erupted and is now posting in his bi-polar state under Smokey.
See above #780454
Come on Smokey... lets have one of your classic diatribes. Now's the time for you to come to the aid of your better half-brain, Quinn.
DavivPierre----Anyone is free to go to Quinn's site this INSTANT and see the pissing match I've been in with him all weekend about the war in the middle east. Of course, when they see that, you are of course exposed as a liar and a fraud when they see that me and Quinn are not the same person, despite your repeated lies to the contrary. Quinn NEVER makes a racist comment on his blog. I have made several. He allows me on his blog because he allows free speech. He booted your sorry ass off because you spammed his site with your delusional 9/11 conspiracy shit, and now you are pissed.Tough shit.
Roses are red and violets are blue.
I'm Schizophrenic and so am I!
There's NO WAY of knowing that you're NOT one and the same person here, is there?
Yes, but what made 1776 different was it was a revolution not only against something (oppression by an autocrat...the usual) but a revolution FOR something, something new; liberty and self determination. Virtually all other modern revolutions just swapped out autocrats or ended up with one...French revolution, Bolshevik revolution, Nazi revolution, Maoist revolution, etc. It was a grand experiment and pretty successful for awhile.
"Will 2012 Be As Critical As 1860?"
It's gonna be an earth shaking event....
If you put this, a Hindenburg Omen, and a couple of Death Crosses between two pieces of bread you'd have a shit sandwich.
If you put your head between two pieces of bread, you'd have a shithead sandwich.
Now I understand who George Carlin was talking about.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
We know which half you occupy.
"WE" !?
There aint aint no we here... Kemo Sabe!
You have such a sad pathetic life that you must leach off my articles. You are truly a maggot.
Squirm SmokeyQuinn!
I'm using your own words in an OPEN and public forum. There is no delete button for your fat-fingers to use here.
Deal with it!
Maybe you should just STFU before you make a bigger MORON of yourself.
Man, I barely made it through Y2K, now this. Did he mention the Mayans? He must have. Right?
I always wondered what it was like to be an ignorant douchebag.
Could you enlighten us?
SmokeyQuinn:
Just look in the mirror...MORON.
Bah Bah
Your favorite movie, Deliverance, is on.
Thin skinned and thick headed is no way to go through life, son.
Your propaganda is too transparent. I think TV is your medium.
Not used to getting your ass kicked by the author bike boy?
Your ignorance and pea brain are transparent. Your mother is my medium.
Just don't know when to STFU... do you MORON.
DP
The sheep are getting restless. They know what time it is. The sad part is that they are the ones that are disgusted. Bah.
SmokeyQuinn
Your favorite fat ewe, Avalon, is getting restless.She knows what time it is again.
The sad part is that she is the one that is disgusted. Just waiting for your fat ass to get off the keyboard and get to it with her in the shit-paddock makes her want to puke.
Bah.
Every time I see one of your pathetic posts I can't shake the picture of the mongoloid banjo player from Deliverance. And to think, that is the brother you look up to. These things happen when your mother is your sister.
DP why are you so obsessed with Jim Quinn? You come off a little crazy ya know.
lincoln was a tyrant and should have been shot before he took office.
Yeah, and Mother Theresa wasn't all she was cracked up to be either. In fact, the whole human race should have been shot before they were born.
What's your problem with Mother Theresa?
I heard she bowed down to some dude in the sky with a long beard instead of guns and gold.
America officially died with the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.
No one fights for "diversity". No one.
TPTB do
Not to mention most of society.
We're going to find out.
My feeling is that Thomas Chittum's predictions are more likely than not.
+1
Man, i wish i had my eyes open 5 years earlier before i had my twin boys.......i love them more than life, but i wish they didnt have to live thru what is upcoming (and dare i say not had them ???)......i guess i will enjoy them everyday i can and prepare them as best i can and probably lose their innocence much sooner than i lost mine
Seasmoke said:
"Man, i wish i had my eyes open 5 years earlier before i had my twin boys.......i love them more than life, but i wish they didnt have to live thru what is upcoming"
...i love them more than life...
back to core values, back to the essence of what it is to 'exist' in this very very short life - love thy neighbor, as thy self..meaning, Love/value yourself foster your Godliness, and foster the same in others,
worry not about the future, becoming slave to it, worry not about JUST yourself...the unit of 'existence' is the family/near friends...the living beings around you...pay attention LISTEN, be still...
Hell on earth is Other People, Sin, the concept, and evil, the concept have been made obsolete English in this secular Progressive World....centered on unthinking materialism, wasted time/effort on meaningless projects
...a puff of smoke, a hundred years, we each are, yet taking into account our children/relatives/friends, we are immortal...we are History made, in the making, and shall become...
no, not the virtues of ignorance, of slavery, of (xxx)...1984 Fascist paradise...still, short as life is, as insignificant/powerless as it seems, paradoxically LIFE MUST BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY EARNESTLY, which means not being too busy to LISTEN/think, revalue, question mere habits, question Authority...no self medicating alcohol/drugs/side show pleasures of the moment..
Occasionally, maybe once, each person COULD 'make a difference', could enact a worthy/brave thing... in all cases, never Worry, but DO SOMETHING in the manner of ....i love them more than life, a mother would sacrifice her life for her young children..
I understand your sentiment (sort of). But you gotta lighten up. Nobody knows whats coming; it might suck dog balls, it might just be we're half way through a 30's style depression, gonna default of some bad debt, get a couple of knees broke and move on. Either way, it's a certainty we're all going to be worm food one day.
Why live life worrying about it?
Commonly known as the War of the Rebellion, our Civil War was a failed Revolution by the south but a Revolution all the same. The Thermidor, or cooling off period lasted until 1876 with the presidential election and confirmed in 1880, which co-incidently ushered in the gold standard. So that fits well within the 20 year framework this author relates to, which is traditionally a generational measurement.
Undoubtedly we are facing the same situtation but it is our Federal Government that has been taken over by the ruling Kleptocracy elite that threatens America with bankruptcy to which the people are in the process of overthrowing. Ergo the Tea Party movement which signals what is better termed as the, 'turning of the intellectuals' as defined by Crane Brinton in his brilliant 'Anatomy of a Revolution'.
What is key now is to have a system to put in place by the end of 2012 which will usher in a new government which undoubtedly will comprise the turning of the intellectual and thus beginning the 2nd phase of the Revolution. If the replacement for the government is not ready to install upon this 2nd phase we're in for one hell of a bad time, as the 2nd phase degenerates into a war of wills due to a vacuum created by the eventual stalemate of the participants trying to put the government back together again.
If we are not set with a return to our Constitution sans any vehicle for the 2B2Fail Banksters they, their money and minions will tear down any efforts towards reform and divide the Nation into factions and blood will flow. That you can be sure.
Supplied from their adherents from without and financed from within I doubt America will be able to defeat their onslaught cloaked in confusion and a promise of stablility and safety which in reality will be unchastened slavery buy their unrelenting tyranny. Freedom will be lost and the world, again under the thumb of unquestioned tyranny will fall into the darkness via the inherent failure of the economic models of tyranny.
Billions will die and I think, this will force the hand of God. Then look the fuck out, because if he has to come back he's going to be pissed.
So, the lesson is to be ready with the reform of a gold standard in unison with what I would term a publicly owned Suffolk Banking system and a few other reforms I will be outlining in an 8 point 'Contract with America'.
Wilson had 15 points at Versailles. God had 10 at Sinai. We only need 8. Viva la' Revolution'. The battle will be at the ballot box. Be there or be square.
Whatever happens I hope Ron paul runs in the republican primary and once he loses that(lets not kid ourselves people) he runs third party(or independet) just to mess the whole thing up
I agree. Other than Palin (dems and repubs hate her, so to me that's a plus) and Paul are any of the candidates really anything more that Soros puppets? Are they going to make a difference? Democrats are flat out socialist, republicans talk like free market folks but govern like socialists, so not sure any of them will make a damn bit of difference. Hopefully I am wrong.........
If you think the political class is going to solve your problems, you may be in for some disappointment.
Uh oh. I re-checked the "turning" count. This is the FIFTH turning.
Damn.
jim quinn...4rth turning...what a complete steaming pile of shit.
Nice alias nazi douchebag. Your mother is a steaming pile of shit fuckwad. Swallow that pint of throat yogurt before responding.
Now there you are... the bi-polar SmokeyQuinn that we all know so well. In fine form with the very witty responses...showing depth of intellect and strong rhetorical powers.
I'm new here...my first encounter with Mr. Q, but sure seems like a touchy little bitch. Go back to page one and look... it's hilarious. He just gets hotter and hotter at every exchange - hope he doesn't blow a gasket. Well, I guess if you put all that work [approx 75% too much] into something and it's not appreciated....waahhh
Paypal accepted my sister's donation to Wikileaks, but did not deliver the money to Wikileaks. Who is going to be the next Paypal?
Holy clap-trap! More nonsensical diarrhea from the idiot quinn. Huge fail.
i guess there SHOULD be an upper limit to the text byte-count...otherwise we will get more of these 'fillibuster postings' next comes "Gone with the Wind.." all of it...tedious low-cultured slave class interaction:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uduq5gs5gvw&feature=player_embedded#!
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I find that posting links is the sign of a feeble mind. What do you think? If you do.
jim quinn is a worthless, whiny lil' punk ass beeeyach! very entertaining you troll, you're getting pwned. And gosh jimbo, please don't be so harsh and call me a naaaaazi or talk about my moma, you're hurting my feelings and breaking my heart. Really jimmy, pack it up and pack it in, you obviously cannot grasp anything but the tip of that butt-plug your fat ass is sitting on. What a complete and total loser.
Quinn you fellating shit-head! Why did you erase your lame-assed comment?? Because you have absolutely nothing to say. Fucking cum rag.
Pundits all! Opinions are not facts. We will find out soon enough what will be our future, and I suspect there is not much we can do to change it.
Some would say we are no different than the lemming and have an occasional march to the sea. But wait! We have opposable thumbs and a big brain, so I am pretty sure we have learned our lesson and will not march this time.
The stopped clock is right twice a day.
I'm thinking (and planning) it will be outcome #2, due to our complete denial of peak oil and our inability to comprehend the exponential function and huge energy density of oil.(Our focus on green energy illustrates perfectly our collective energy ignorance). Millions, if not billions are going to die in the coming resource wars and resultant food shortages. But mankind will not go extinct, and perhaps hundreds of years in the future, fusion or some similar energy source will be discovered and we will start anew...
Or maybe we will make a few simple changes and lead less energy intensive lives.
Let's all ride bikes. That should do the trick, right bike boy?
I live in a city. There are bike paths. Some people do bicycle to work. More would if the option was there.
Wait a minute.... you think I'm just 'talking my book'. "Bicycle Repairman" is a screen name. I am in reality unconnected to the bicycle industry, its subsidiaries or its repair facilities.
I hope that puts your mind at rest.
Oil made your bicycle possible. Think about that for a while...
I thought about it. Bicycles did exist before oil. Also If we use oil to build bicycles, but no autos, then we will use less oil.
I shudder when I read posts suggesting that
arming the neighborhood and confronting the
Man at the barricades is a viable strategy of
resistance/revolution. Consider Kent State:
elements of the Ohio National Guard fired live
ammo into a crowd of college kids mostly from
Ohio. Which speaks to the naive notion that
US troops would not go brutal on their own people.
For every young patriot who joined the service
thinking they were doing the right thing, there would
be an equal number of dickweeds who wouldn't
hesitate to join in the frenzy. Think asymmetry,
Baby.
Yeah, Sarah Palin and the religous nuts are going to provoke a Global War of 24 Hour 'Round the Clock Nuclear Holocaust 'Cause God Said So.
What utter rubbish. Look, we're in for a bad time because we've bankrupted ourselves. And, yes, I mean "we", as is myself and the guy you see in the mirror each morning. We went and did this, because we wanted to. Because we were irresponsible. Because we were cowardly. Because it was easier than doing the right thing (or, at least, so it seemed at the time).
The problems we have, however, can be fixed. And fixed with some rapidity - provided, of course, that we don't fall for some sort of story that there is some historical inevitiblitiy about fourth turnings, or what have you.
Who is 'we', kemo sabe? If you owe money pay it, or default and accept the consequences. If you lent it collect, or face the consequences. Leave the rest of us out.
Well, then everyone except you - provided you can demonstrate that you've taken every action you possibly could have to head off this mess.
There was only one man without sin, you know? Ask any religious nut about him, if you like.
I don't think I buy the thesis of this article and its central idea of 80 year cycles. One of my favorite sayings is "History doesn't repeat itself but it does have echoes." It means you can learn from history but you need to pay attention to your current conditions and not assume anything.
What I do think happens is that ideas run their course and bad ideas end in calamaties of the sort described here. Maybe eighty years which generally is two generations or one old person is about the right time frame. The Soviet Union only lasted one cycle because it's ideas of collectivism and state/party authority were really really bad. Maoist China didn't last any longer. They both killed more of their own people than their wartime enemies. However, our fiat currencies and the concurrent practices of fractional reserve banking are bad ideas, too. Collectivism-socialism is a bad idea. Statism with corporatism (private profit, socialized losses) is a bad idea. The idea that human nature is perfectable (if you just write enough regulations) is a really bad idea. Central planning is a demonstrably bad idea. The notion that involuntary associations (government control) are better than voluntary associations (freedom/free markets) is a collosally bad idea. All these bad ideas are actually currently in play, dominant and running headlong into their predictable catastrophic demise. You don't have to be Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce or even a prophet of God to see their end.
Any good Austrian economist should actually be able to spot about 90% of these. Timing is just tough. These ideas don't go down without a fight, disaster or revolution. They all will fail and there's nothing any modern statist type liberal can do to make them work. That's what makes them angry and mean at their core. Oh yes, the modern liberal who loves everybody and wants "stuff" for everybody comes with teeth and claws that come out at the right times.
"creative destruction" is the proper word you are looking for methinks. AIG should not have been allowed to survive. Period. And so what if you had a bet on the Pitt/Balt. game last night with that fucking bookie AIG... you just won, but tough shit, you are NOT getting paid.
However, now with the baillouts, it pumps up the P&Ls(shit, losses? what losses now!) of the biggest banks and they now pay bonuses that make 2007 look small!
These bailouts make these companies think they are gifted, and their traders are even more gifted...heck, when the govt. will buy anything you have with a nice profit...i am gifted too!!
Now we get bonuses from this false pumping....which just widens the gap more.
Study history. Europe had constant wars for thousands of years because it was a jigsaw puzzle of small kings, constantly jockeying for power. Now they are mostly democratically elected and with tiny armies.
Say what you like about globalization, but for the foreseeable future, no rogue power is large enough to cause more than a small skirmish.
2012 will go out with a whimper, not a bang. Economies will stagnate due to peak oil and debt. Silly people will provide an ongoing market for books about doom and fear mongering. Rational people will very easily avoid any trouble -- simply don't join the military or be suckered into the latest nonsensical fad.
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BLM has wanted this land for a while...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdpOT7wR-wU&NR=1
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/nv/field_offices/las_vegas_field_office/energy/solar_millennium_-/Solar_Millennium_FEIS.Par.14078.File.dat/Vol%20II%20-%20Appendix%20F.pdf
Energy or Food of a Independant man doing the work.
Drill down http://www.morphcity.com/home/80-constitutional-sheriff-tony-demeo
Rinse and repeat to progress to whom?
So the takeaway from this is: if you slaughter A Whole Continent of native peoples, then things suck every 80 years.
Is that about it?
Scale it up to International Capital movement "Fiat induced" and whom was in the way now. Follow the distribution lines of energy and so called progress to macro projects. Yea, they mapped minerals in Afgan already. http://pacificfreepress.com/news/1/6447-the-pentagons-afghan-mineral.html
http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=4643
Attention is the only impedemant to when your stepped on.
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Another year or so the Local's will come around is my opinion on the current crisis. Wake up as they starve you out to there bent of mind. Welcome to the predicated cycle...
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Author's assertion that the Civil war "Turning" lasted only 5 years shows poor grasp of History. Civil war was preceded by two depressions. 1850's were a hard time, and cold (last gasp of Little Ice Age); people were in mean mood, and for some time.
I didn't write the book, so it isn't my assertion.
I always found Quinn a bit unreasonable in his responses to criticism, but this is perhaps the most disgusting display by someone of his stature that I have ever seen. Seeking Alpha says Mr. Quinn is senior director of strategic planning for a major university. I support free speech, so I can't suggest that Mr. Quinn be silenced. I would only suggest that serious websites like Zero Hedge, The Big Picture, and naked capitalism rethink using Quinn's columns.
I don't suggest this because I disagree with Mr. Quinn. I happen to agree with much of what he says even if I don't buy into all his theories. I suggest this because Mr. Quinn lacks credibility and appears to be a raving lunatic whose judgement is no better than any other lunatic's. He brooks no criticism and accepts no debate, which are the signs of a weak mind. But, more worryingly, he lashes out with vitriol, slander, and obscenities at the slightest provocation. His coterie of boot-lickers add their own kicks and give each other virtual high fives after every "happy slap attack".
Ritholz is not one to suffer fools gently but I can't imagine BR responding to questions about his views with comments like those Quinn uses. Yves Smith rarely responds with anything more than a re-affirmation or a calm analysis and dismissal of a critic. Even Mish refrains from calling people shitheads, etc., and I imagine it's not because he wouldn't like to.
Quinn has no credentials and no authority. He has discovered an interesting niche in the blogosphere and has filled it with well-written and well-presented material that resonates well in this troubling times. But he is by all appearances a nasty piece of work. He is a sort of Uber-Troll. It would be funny if he were not so widely read and apparently treated as a serious source.
I look forward to a vibrant, creative attack from Jim, though I fear the worst. It will no doubt be reminiscent of an exchange in the movie War Games. "I don't have to take that from you, you pig-eyed sack of shit!" "Come now, I would have expected better from you, Mr McKitrick, a man of your education, sir!"
The person using the screen name "Jim Quinn" cannot possibly be the real author of this article.
That is what I thought as well. I've read his site many times, and never seen evidence of this kind of clap-trap.
We all know that anyone out there can easily assume the identity of anyone they choose, just by selectinig that name.
My most disgusting display yet. Thanks. I'll try to top it next time.
Vague and useless categorizations are redundant and useless. You have a faulty premise in the logic that leads you to categorize people and times erroneously. The false premise is that times and people in concrete cycles operate with common characteristics. It actually doesn't matter if the next president is a baby boomer or a prophet, their decisions and the decisions of the people due to their election are the things that matter.
Vague and useless pretty much sums up your comment.
So, basically, the USA is an island, isolated from the rest of the world, and the American history can be interpreted in a completely isolated way from the history of the rest of world... Interesting... The USA history has "cycles" with no relation with the rest of the world...
Strauss & Howe can document the theory back to the 1400's as I've said three times so far. I fear for the future of our country when I read some of these comments.
I just want to say that I just saw a pattern this morning. It was in my toast. I discerned the outline of Jesus. It is clear that the second coming is nigh. No, not just nigh, it will happen in 2012. But not before billions and billions are slaughtered. I read that last bit on the other side of the toast. Good thing I 'turned' it over.
Please everybody, for America's sake, buy the book.
Is it true that ignorance is bliss?
Don't you have a tire to blow up, bike boy?
Are you the author of the article or some blowhard trying to defame him?
Well?
The same sort of comments and using his name can be found on his site, so I assume it's him. Either that or he writes these articles and then ignores feedback. I go with the former
Sad. I'd say the guy's credibility on this site is shot.
So shot that Tyler posted my new article today. Read it and learn something bike boy.
Amongst the readership, bozo.
In your fucking dreams dickhead.
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You call this drivel feedback?
Why don't you and your butt bike boy post your wisdom on my site and see how long we put up with you dimwits?
Great article.
However, with the Civil war, I would put the beginning of the "phase 4" around 1848 with the Kansas-Nebraska act. That was a time when these new terrirtories were being added tot he union because of the war with Mexico which gave us the land for good.
So, with these new states, which way does it go? Slave or free? That is where it started and the last 5 years the author says was the entire thing was just the climax. Much like the Nasdick climax in 2000...those last 4 months.
With 1848 being the year they put the pot of water on the stove which began boiling and boiled over in 1865, it puts it in the 16 yr range which is right there with the others.
Now, please do not forget that EVERY country has these...we are not alone it is a human thing!
Case in point? NAZI GERMANY.
Hitler fought unsucessessfully in WW1 which set the stage for WW2. Think about it, very classic in terms of what the authors are saying....Hitler got so pissed they lost ww1, Germany was coming out of the Wiemar republic much like we are in now with hyperinflation and people ready for a change.
Then comes Hitler. Heil Hitler! He can change us, he is our savior. You know how the rest was settled.
See, we are so inter-related WORLD-WIDE that now only do we have to worry about our own actions but other countries actions can easily put us in WW3.
Great stuff...so right on and makes such sense.
You cant tell me everything was great before 1860 and out of nowhere we had this huge election with the most turn out.(which was so interesting!! I wonder why 1876 had a bigger turnout?)
You all need to learn what actually happened in the Civil War and especially the OP:
http://www.flyingbuffaloes7.net/an02.html
Crisis #14
Chapter 22
Slavery is the absolute subjugation of one person to another in servitude and obedience; the victim has no free will. The practice has been in existence since prehistoric times. People become the property of others through birth, capture, purchase or any other means forced on them. The inkling to enslave others seems to be entrenched in the psyche of many humans, almost as if there has never been a time without it.
Slavery has occurred in all cultures and countries around the world. Although it became more obvious when humans adopted farming methods of subsistence, slave labor existed well before then. In ancient Egypt, Babylon, India, Greece, Rome, and China, slave labor was used to cultivate lands and to meet the demand of the upper classes for personal servants. Prisoners taken in wars were sometimes forced into slavery. Children and adults were sold in slavery for defaulting on debts. Others were tricked into being slaves, sold for punishment, spite, or just plain greed. Slavery soared during Portuguese, Spanish and British imperialism from the 16th to the 18th centuries. The untold, horrendous suffering of slaves shows the darkest side of human nature. It is dehumanizing to enslave another person, yet many of the upper class and those involved with this inhuman crime took a different view of it!
Slavery was imposed on the American people by the British. Under British law, African slaves were deemed to be property and viewed as sub-human. From the 17th to the 19th centuries, slavery became an enormously profitable business in the American South due to the agricultural economy. Millions of Africans were kidnapped and forcibly transported to the Americas to be sold as slaves, especially to work on cotton plantations in both North and South America. The inhumane conditions of the transportation process killed or sickened many, whilst numerous others died being used as work animals. The cotton boom was one of the main motivators for expanding the slave population. Slave masters encouraged or forced their slaves to reproduce at a high rate, using them like baby factories to meet the demands of free labor in America. Some of the masters participated in the reproduction of slave babies; slaves were also used by their masters and mistresses as bed-warmers. Like the indigenous people of Australia and elsewhere, these slaves were not good enough for the upper classes and the whites, but they were certainly good enough to be used as convenient sex objects!
Slave masters and mistresses all over the world seemed to have their own universal methods of abusing slaves although they were separated by vast geographical distance. They treated their slaves in the same manner. In one form or another, slavery exists in any society where the class system is accepted as a way of life. Sadly, slavery still exists today in many parts of the world, often under various disguises.
Until 1776, the American colonies were bound by the British monarchs and their Parliaments, who legalized and enforced the slave trade and the practice of slavery. The trading of humans in slavery is no different from trading cattle, sheep or swine. It represents the trough of human ethics. The filthy institution was forced on American colonists by the British, with those who opposed it having little or no voice at all.
The same people who drove the American and the French Revolutions were abolitionists. Paine, Franklin, Jefferson and Lafayette were abolitionists. Jefferson was in the ironic position of being a slaveholder himself through inheriting them from his father and father-in-law. He sought to release his slaves, but, under the laws and circumstances of the time, there was no way to free them – they would just have been caught up in the system that was in place and forced to serve new masters.
On March 8, 1775, Paine published African Slavery in America, condemning the practice. Parts of that essay appear below:
That some desperate wretches should be willing to steal and enslave men by violence and murder for gain, is rather lamentable than strange... By such wicked and inhuman ways the English are said to enslave towards one hundred thousand yearly; of which thirty thousand are supposed to die by barbarous treatment in the first year; besides all that are slain in the unnatural ways excited to take them... Most shocking of all is alleging the sacred scriptures to favour this wicked practice... Man-stealing is ranked with enormous crimes... Too many nations enslaved the prisoners they took in war. But to go to nations with whom there is no war, who have no way provoked, without farther design of conquest, purely to catch inoffensive people, like wild beasts, for slaves, is an height of outrage against humanity and justice, that seems left by heathen nations to be practised by pretended Christian... So monstrous is the making and keeping them slaves at all, abstracted from the barbarous usage they suffer, and the many evils attending the practice; as selling husbands away from wives, children from parents, and from each other, in violation of sacred and natural ties; and opening the way for adulteries, incests, and many shocking consequences... If the slavery of the parents be unjust, much more is their children's...
In the draft of the Declaration of Independence that Jefferson presented to Congress, he emphatically denounced slavery, stating: “He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating its most sacred rights of life and liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating and carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither.” Congress redacted Jefferson's anti-slavery language from the Declaration of Independence. Franklin abhorred bondage of any type, but especially “perpetual Bondage,” and he urged the “American People” to discourage “every Species of Traffick in the Persons of our fellow men.”1 The State of Pennsylvania tried to gradually abolish slavery in 1780. After the first war with Britain ended, while the nation was still operating under the Articles of Confederation, the United States Congress outlawed slavery and involuntary servitude in the territory covered by the Northwest Ordinance of July 13, 1787.
There have been many arguments put forward to justify the superseding of the Articles of Confederation by the Constitution, but one very glaring reason is because certain vested interests wanted to perpetuate slavery in the United States. Obviously, Great Britain was keen to have America remain as a slave nation for its own financial gain. Even though George III was thwarted in 1783, he continued to plot for the retrieval of America back into the British fold and to keep the lucrative slave trade operating. The British had immense influence regarding the nature and design of the Constitution, which was drafted in secret while Congress was enacting the Northwest Ordinance. While the Declaration of Independence was silent on the issue of slavery because the Congress redacted Jefferson's proposed abolition of it, the Constitution formally legalized the institution of slavery! Slavery was legal – it was embedded in the foundation of all American laws by its insertion into the Constitution. This shows British meddling in the secret meetings that resulted in the Constitution being drafted. British meddling in American affairs through its agents continues to this day.
The 1787 Constitution not only authorized slavery, it blatantly protected it for certain vested interests. The following excerpts show how those parties protected the abominable institution:
No person held to service or labour in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labour, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labour may be due. U.S. Const., Art. IV, Sec. 2.
The migration or importation of such persons as any of the states now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each person. U.S. Const., Art I, Sec. 9.
The Constitution forced every state to respect and follow the slavery laws of another state, and to return any slaves to their state of origin if any should escape and seek sanctuary in another state. Further, the Constitution specifically protected slave trading in states until the year 1808, which was 20 years after the drafting of the document. The pro-slavery stance should be kept in mind while reading the Preamble to the Constitution:
We, the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
A “more perfect union” assuredly did not include “the blessings of liberty” for the slaves who held their inhuman status in the nation, and their lot was cast upon their offspring into perpetuity. The Constitution – the highest law of the land – mandated protection of the institution of slavery. It would take a constitutional amendment to change this miserable situation, and to get the amendment, it would take a civil war.
Thus, the foundation appears to have been laid for the War Between the States in 1787 by all those who gathered for secret meetings in Philadelphia and decided to totally reject the Articles of Confederation, and to construct a brand new foundation for all the laws of the nation – the Constitution. It is important to look deeper in order to expose the force behind the implementation of slavery. In 1858, Abraham Lincoln addressed the conspiracy to promote and maintain slavery on the American continent. In his famous House Divided Speech, Lincoln urged people to “trace the evidences of design and concert of action among its chief architects, from the beginning.” Lincoln knew there was a conspiracy; he had absolute proof of it.
Lincoln was well aware that the roots of the conspiracy to enslave people went much further back than the 1787 Constitutional convention. It certainly predated American independence from Britain; the British monarchs had imposed slavery on American soil since the 17th century. European monarchs practiced what was a universal institution. It is as prevalent in history as prostitution, which is said to be the oldest “profession” in the world.
Slavery simultaneously existed in Asia, the Middle East, Africa, Europe and the Americas long before the Roman Empire conquered parts of the British Isles. There is a nefarious force present on the planet that drove people to exploit and enslave others mercilessly. As Dr. William Blair aptly stated in his 2006 essay, Extremists at the Gate, “...something as horrible as slavery can, in its own context and time, appear to the oppressors as natural, desirable, and worth defending, even to the ones who are not yet the direct beneficiaries.”2
Slavery had so gradually influenced and prejudiced the minds of the population, and so numbed their sensitivity, to the point of their accepting, and, in extreme cases, defending it. This is akin to people getting used to certain ideas over time. The exposure, association and interaction with a behavior, product, concept, service or fashion becomes “normal.” In the same way, people become used to the idea that destruction and killing during wars is acceptable and honorable, that is, that it is “normal.” In America, because Britain had imposed slavery on the continent nearly two centuries before the new nation was formed, it had become a “normal” way of life. Besides, the upper classes had become used to the comfort and convenience of having servants and slaves to wait on them. Unfortunately, the “haves” still lord over the “have-nots!”
The British have a long history of subjugating and exploiting people in foreign lands. During the reign of Queen Victoria, the United Kingdom occupied and controlled a quarter of the world's land and population. They accomplished this through commerce, banking, conquests, bribery, threats, drugs and intrigues. It has been their practice to take over ports, localities, regions, nations and even continents. Whatever country they conquer, they systematically strip the inhabitants of their resources. When an area was sparsely populated or inhabited by indigenous people, such as in North America, New Zealand and Australia, they slaughtered, subjugated, abused and completely conquered the territory, and converted the indigenous people into third-class, sub-human occupiers of the land. Britain was not alone in this. France, Spain, Holland and Denmark were some of Europe's culprits. Let us not forget that Britain was controlled and ruled by the Hanover Electors from the time of George I forward. In other words, northern European royals were, and are, directing the United Kingdom.
Britain had a vested interest in keeping slavery alive in America, even after the Revolutionary War. This caused the United States to suffer many intrigues and wars from Britain both during and after its fight for independence. The Benedict Arnold conspiracy, Aaron Burr conspiracy, British impressment of American seamen, sponsorship of privately-owned national banks, War of 1812, and the force behind the Civil War against the Union are some examples of this. The British were behind the design and concert to which Lincoln referred throughout his lifelong battle against slavery.
It was easy to see that slavery was a divisive issue. What was not so obvious was that each time abolitionists gained some ground, there were forces at work to undo the efforts. Pennsylvania's attempt at gradual emancipation went nowhere. When the Congress was deadlocked on the issue of whether to admit Missouri as a state, the solution was to grant Maine admission as a free state, admit Missouri as a slave state, with the territory of the Louisiana Purchase reserved as free territory in the compromise. That compromise was undone by the pro-slavery plotters. The debates were hot and furious at times, and there was civil unrest over the issue of slavery. A relatively small number of rich slaveholders were able to keep things going forward on behalf of slavery, and it was very possible that slavery was on the brink of overtaking the entire nation through cunning political maneuvers and daring designs.
Today, whenever anyone claims that there is a conspiracy afoot, they are ridiculed and labeled as a “conspiracy theorist”. The scorning of those who see conspiracies is very prevalent. It is now to the point that people are leery of asserting that there are conspiracies in governments, nations or regions. Intrigues and plots are rampant in history; through the ages there have been political conspiracies working for the advancement of some at the expense of others. Today, these things have not changed.
To disregard these political conspiracies or to scoff at them is to disregard the human condition. However, some conspiracies can be so involved and secretive that they are very difficult to expose. Just because a conspiracy is complicated and difficult to discover and reveal is no reason to give in to skeptical mockers. There was a deep conspiracy to spread slavery throughout the United States that carried on from the inception of the nation. The most obvious principal in this conspiracy is the United Kingdom – that is the party most desirous of stirring discontent in America. Abraham Lincoln realized there was a conspiracy to adulterate the entire nation with slavery, and as he began unraveling it, the principal conspirators became very concerned.
As already stated, Britain had an extraordinary interest in keeping the institution of slavery viable in America. The American slave trade was profitable; the issue of slavery was a festering wound in the United States that was very divisive politically; and slavery made American liberty appear hypocritical. It provided cheap labor so American imports would be relatively inexpensive to appease English merchants and citizens. It kept the institution legally operating in a large Western nation, thus giving the whole class distinction/white supremacy argument a sanctioned haven. Further, having the institution operating in America infected the citizens of that country with class structure superiority attitudes and all that comes with such a situation.
Hence, Britain had a vested interest in slavery in America. It was a powerful tool the country used to meddle in American affairs. Foremost, it would provide a pathway to return the United States to the United Kingdom. Therefore, Britain supported the expansion of slavery into American territories, and sponsored those who pursued the policies of infesting all of the land with slavery. It was another aspect of their tested and effective “divide and conquer” technique.
As more and more territory became havens for slavery, the remaining free states would eventually be forced to accept the policy in their states too. By manipulation of the Congresses and Presidents, they guided the expansion of slavery across the land. Of course, they had the Supreme Court under control from 1801 until 1835 with John Marshall as Chief Justice. They also got a follow-up Chief Justice, Marshall's successor, Roger Taney, who sat in that position until 1864. Thus, the British had influence and control over the American judiciary for a period of 64 years with just two appointments. While Jefferson was able to discourage lifetime Presidents by only serving two terms, the British penchant for lifetime positions took root in the American Judicial branch of government, and thoroughly corrupted the spirit of liberty.
With this state of affairs spreading across the nation, and the United States in dire danger of being either swallowed up into a whole nation that legalized slavery or being severed in two, Abraham Lincoln made his run for the Presidency. It is not too strong a statement to say that the future of American liberty rested on his shoulders. If Britain could quash American liberty, it could stomp it out around the globe. But, fortunately, Lincoln was up to the challenge.
Lincoln grew up believing in liberty. He was a passionate champion of freedom who became discouraged as he saw the appalling contradiction of having slavery in a free nation. He saw that through laws and policies, slavery was expanding. What was difficult for Lincoln to grasp was the devious cunning of those who sponsored and promoted slavery. Slowly, he came to the realization that they would stop at nothing in pursuit of their designs.
As Lincoln was honing in on the conspiracy behind the determination to infest all of America with slavery, he addressed the Illinois Republican Convention in 1858 with his House Divided Speech. He pointed out that all the efforts to reduce the impact of slavery in the United States were met with a stronger force to expand the practice. Lincoln declared that “A house divided against itself cannot stand.” He stated his belief in the continuation of the government, and argued that if it were to survive, the nation would have to be either all pro-slavery or all free. There was no middle ground.
Lincoln pointed out four prominent figures involved in a devious plan to make the entire country a slave nation. He said that although more than half of the states excluded slavery from their constitutions, and although most of the national territory that had not been organized into states had a congressional prohibition against slavery, a huge battle had occurred in Congress, with the pro-slavery representatives succeeding in removing the prohibition against slavery in the unorganized American territories.
Lincoln showed conclusively in that speech that Senator Stephen Douglas, a Northerner with aspirations for the Presidency, had conspired with others to secure the Southern vote by pandering to influential pro-slavery people. Lincoln laid out the proof and made the astonishing claim that it was Douglas who had led the charge in the Congress to put through legislation that would allow the western territories to become slave regions, even though on the surface its true purpose was not apparent. It was the outgoing President, Franklin Pierce, who had conspired with Douglas to corrupt the western areas with slavery.
The conspiracy darkened further, bringing in the incoming President, James Buchanan. Lincoln pointed out that Douglas surreptitiously planted the slavery expansion in the Nebraska doctrine and left it hanging. Few, if any, suspected how deviously it was done. The two Presidents aforementioned were critical to the plot. As the presidential election approached in 1856, Buchanan deferred interpretation of the constitutional question of territorial slavery to the Supreme Court, which was considering the Dred Scott case. The Court delayed its decision, using various excuses, until after Buchanan had won the election without taking a public stand on how he felt about the issue. In the back rooms of the Supreme Court, Buchanan was working on the Justice from his home state of Pennsylvania to support the decision to support slavery. After Buchanan was sworn in as President, the Supreme Court Chief Justice, Roger Taney, delivered his opinion on the Dred Scott case, ruling that slaves were property, incapable of becoming citizens.
With the Dred Scott decision, the knockout blow was struck on behalf of bringing slavery to the territories. It was a putrid conspiracy to circumvent the wishes of the people and impose the institution throughout the country, executed through intrigue, guile and concerted action. Lincoln pointed out that the conspiracy involved the Legislative, Executive and Judicial branches of government. That is, the whole of the government was corrupt. Lincoln understood that the conspiracy was based in Europe. At this time, he was unaware that Queen Victoria was directly involved. However, he did know that she was ruthless, devious and untrustworthy. Among her ugliest acts was to physically force Indian-produced opium down the throats of the Chinese to get them addicted and weaken their will.
To get the full flavor of what Lincoln presented, his House Divided Speech is attached in the appendix of this work. Lincoln boldly accused two Presidents, much of the Congress and the Supreme Court of being in league to circumvent liberty by using nearly invisible designs and intrigues. The rogues have not changed their ways. Although Lincoln was able to convince the people of the conspiracy in 1858, he would have a much more difficult time doing so today. The principal conspirators have so thoroughly corrupted governments, media, schools, professions and the like that even the mention of the term “conspiracy” raises eyebrows and causes people to mock. The rent-a-crowd mentality has taken control so absolutely that people cannot openly discuss conspiracies without being ridiculed. The proof of the conspiracies becomes irrelevant when people have closed their minds to reality.
Lincoln fought with all his energy to hold the American nation together and to rid it of slavery. When a block of Southern states seceded from the Union, Britain finally had its conspiracy in full swing. Earlier efforts to divide the States had failed. Benedict Arnold was caught in the act, preserving the fledgling nation. John Adams tried sending the country back to Britain, but he was ousted by the people. Adams did succeed in putting Marshall in as Chief Justice, who worked the Constitution to the point that the country was ripe for the picking through the Dred Scott case. Aaron Burr was thwarted as he tried to steal the Presidency from Jefferson, and the nation was again preserved. Burr murdered Alexander Hamilton to protect George III from being found out as a principal conspirator. Then, Burr tried to sever the nation, with half for the British and half for himself to lead. The British used force against America in 1812. Britain had employed many different strategies and tactics against America since 1776, and, in 1860, just two weeks after Lincoln was elected President, South Carolina seceded from the Union, capping the British plans to bring America back into the fold; the conspiracy was alarmingly close to completion.
It is worth noting that the British did not support every secession effort by various states. It was assumed by many of the framers of the nation that states could secede from the Union under the Constitution. Most thought that if the national government were to become too overbearing on state interests and individual liberties, states could secede from the contract that unified them into a nation. Jefferson had suggested that Virginia secede in 1826 because the federal government had encroached on so many of the rights of its citizens. This method of secession would not have benefited the British, and probably would not have caused Lincoln to strenuously hold the nation together, because it would have led to a new block of states with liberty interests at their foundation. Britain's goal was, and remains, to quash liberty. South Carolina's secession in 1860 was just the type of secession to suit Queen Victoria's plans.
Several states followed South Carolina, seceding before Lincoln was sworn in as President. By this time, Lincoln knew that Britain was the moving party behind the slavery conspiracy and the Southern states' secessions. He tried to appease the seceding states, explaining in his First Inaugural Address that he had “no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists.” He further said that he believed that he had “no lawful right to do so.”
In the address, Lincoln acknowledged that slavery was lawful, and that, under the rule of law, it was legal, regardless of how immoral and despicable he believed it to be. He declared that slavery was lawful, that the Constitution expressly required that fugitive slaves be delivered up to their owners, and that he would adhere to the Constitution.
Further along in the speech, without mentioning the country by name, Lincoln implicitly sounded a warning to the British, who, as explained earlier, had worked so hard to assure that the Constitution specifically allowed for slavery. They had further conspired to have their agent, John Marshall, usurp the interpretation of the Constitution for the judiciary. Thereafter, they conspired to have Chief Justice Taney delay the Dred Scott decision to assist Senator Douglas, President Pierce and President Buchanan in their work in converting all of America into a slave nation under the Constitution.
Lincoln went on to assure the people that he would follow the Constitution, and sounded another implicit warning to the unnamed conspiracy, headed by Queen Victoria. He said that in the 72 years since the first President took office, the nation had faced many perils and acquitted itself well. Lincoln then identified that he faced a “great and particular difficulty. A disruption of the Federal Union heretofore only menaced, is now formidably attempted.” It was here that Lincoln showed the British his hand, as he most ironically employed the same Constitution in whose crafting they had meddled, and whose interpretation they had usurped, declaring:
I hold, that in contemplation of universal law, and of the Constitution, the Union of these States is perpetual. Perpetuity is implied, if not expressed, in the fundamental law of all national governments. It is safe to assert that no government proper, ever had a provision in its organic law for its own termination. Continue to execute all the express provisions of our national Constitution, and the Union will endure forever – it being impossible to destroy it, except by some action not provided for in the instrument itself.
Again, if the United States be not a government proper, but an association of States in the nature of contract merely, can it, as a contract, be peaceably unmade, by less than all the parties who made it? One party to a contract may violate it – break it, so to speak; but does it not require all to lawfully rescind it?
Lincoln implicitly said to the unnamed British monarch, whilst expressly stating to her fellow conspirators, that they were in violation of the Constitution, because it formed a perpetual union from which no party could remove itself without unanimous agreement of all parties to the contract. He also served notice on Chief Justice Taney that he would not be intimidated by Marshall's usurpation or future Supreme Court decisions claiming that the Court had the exclusive and final say on whether matters were constitutional or not. Lincoln used specific language, and he knew exactly the import of that language, when he said, “I hold.” This is the same as saying he deemed, judged or adjudicated, as the President of the United States, that the compact amongst the several states to form a Union required unanimous consent to rescind. Lincoln went on to declare that:
... no State, upon its own mere motion, can lawfully get out of the Union, – that resolves and ordinances to that effect are legally void; and that acts of violence, within any State or States, against the authority of the United States, are insurrectionary or revolutionary, according to the circumstances.
Lincoln then implied that his interpretation of the Constitution was better founded than the Supreme Court's. Lincoln explained that if the Court were deciding an issue between parties only and made an error, it would only affect those parties and be of little consequence to the rest of the nation. He said that to have the cases extend beyond the one before the Court would be the same as resigning “government, into the hands of that eminent tribunal.”
Lincoln also stated that he would most solemnly “preserve, protect and defend” the nation and the Constitution. He closed by addressing the seceding states, imploring them to avoid civil war, and adding that “We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection.” Lincoln knew that the Southern states had been duped by Britain, and it was not the Southerners who were the enemies, but the British government.
His pleas for peace were not accepted by the rebels. Five weeks after Lincoln became the 16th President, the newly formed Confederate States of America attacked Fort Sumner, and the American Civil War began. Lincoln prosecuted the war knowing that he was really at war with Britain, but that few could understand that the British had so intricately devised and designed the conflict over decades of intrigues, bribes and other surreptitious and overt acts. He warned the British not to intervene on behalf of the South because they were insurrectionists and revolutionaries.
Britain backed down from its desire to openly support the South, which it had, incidentally, sponsored to secede. Britain did not feel it could justify supporting the side that Lincoln had so skillfully labeled as insurrectionist. A month after the hostilities commenced between the North and South, the British issued a proclamation of neutrality. Six months later, the British mail steamer Trent was stopped by a Union vessel, and Confederate commissioners to France and Britain were removed, which tested British neutrality. Lincoln knew that Britain was anything but neutral, and that it was only giving the pretense of being so.
At various stages of the Civil War, relations with Great Britain were so abysmal that the Union and the United Kingdom were brought to the verge of war. This would have suited Lincoln, who knew that the Union was fighting the British under the cloak of the South, even though most of the Southerners had no idea this was occurring. This is a tactic that Britain uses even today, having the United States fight its battles for it, even though very few Americans realize this to be the case. In late 1862, the British Prime Minister, Lord Palmerston, was prepared to remove the cloak of secrecy and formally recognize the Confederate States of America because it looked as if the South would win. This idea was surrendered when the North took decisive victories later, so Britain remained the silent prosecutor of the American Civil War.
During the war, Britain built warships for the Confederate States, including the CSS Sumter, Florida, Georgia and Alabama. This affront led to the British being forced to pay reparations of over $15 million after the war.3 On New Year's Day, 1863, Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation and ordered and declared “that all persons held as slaves within said designated States, and parts of States, are, and henceforward shall be free.” Eleven months later, at the battlefield in Gettysburg, he made his immortal speech:
Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting-place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate – we cannot consecrate – we cannot hallow – this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us – that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain – that this nation shall have a new birth of freedom and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
In March of 1865, in Lincoln's Second Inaugural Address, with the war nearly completed and victory assured for the Union, he stated:
With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.
Lincoln sincerely meant these words. He would have repaired the nation's wounds from the horrific war and welcomed the Southern states into the Union as equal partners. He knew that the Confederate States of America had been duped by Britain to secede from the Union. He knew that there had been a horrible conspiracy afoot that drew in at least two Presidents, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Senator Douglas and many more, and that the principal of the conspiracy had been Great Britain, which he was about to disclose to the American people. But, the British could not allow this information to get out, so they employed John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated the man most capable of healing the nation. Yet, Lincoln did not die in vain. The Constitution was amended, and America, after more than two centuries of enduring the putrid institution, finally abolished slavery.
1Petition from the Pennsylvania Society for the Abolition of Slavery (1790).
2Struggle for a Vast Future, Osprey Publishing, Ltd., Oxford, 2006.
3Struggle for a Vast Future, Osprey Publishing Ltd., Oxford, 2006
Great stuff.