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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:47 | 1332746 vote_libertaria...
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I don't have the link but Drudge has a link to a guy going thru 9/11 security hell at a Baltimore train station.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:58 | 1333430 DavidC
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Why have you linked to the video that was linked in the article?


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:51 | 1333906 cornedmutton
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So that you would be forced to comment on how stupid I am.

No, not really.  I didn't see it.  Shoot me.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:54 | 1332761 ebworthen
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Yes, as if we in America didn't know about terrorist attacks and need Big Brother to tell us.

Fear mongering from Napolitono and the MSM is fodder for the flag waving sheeple who still believe the eagle/red-white-blue/apple pie bullshit while their Sons and Daughters are sent to die for oil and the continuation of the Crusades and Washington and Wall Street rob them blind and push them into indentured servitude; the gilded cage of consumerism, credit scores, and suckling teat.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:25 | 1332979 AnAnonymous
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Well, well, willingful servants though

 this is the program that encourages people across the country to become unpaid spies for the federal government


In a country people are used to asking a few bucks only to answer a person asking the way, the unpaid work has all its weight.


Not only US citizens fund the project with their hard earned money but they are also ready to deliver work for free without asking for monetary reward.

No goverment manipulation, only the expression of a popular will.

Anytime US citizens do something for free, it tells.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:03 | 1333456 Altavoz-de-Verdad
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Spot on!

The United States is a police state b/c it is a military empire ruled by the corporate elite.  The federal govenment does the bidding of Wall Street, Big Oil, and the Walmarts of the world.



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:47 | 1332765 swamp
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And to whom do I rat out DHS and Walmart?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:02 | 1332858 gosseyn
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"In eerie Big Brother fashion, Napolitano delivers this message from monitors perched throughout WalMart stores nationwide."

Exactly!  And just what is Walmart's incentive for being a DHS cat's paw?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:27 | 1332971 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Probably went something like this in a backroom on K street:

"Hey dats a nice business you got dere.  Shame if something were to happen to it.  You know DHS is pushing for dis new law dat would make your supply chain awfuly slow.  Da boss could probably be persuaded to foget about it in return for her face in you stores"

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:52 | 1333128 MachoMan
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More like, "as I know you are aware, government assistance pays the lion's share of your corporation's bills."  Followed by a long pause and deep stare.  Or a, "it sure would be an inconvenience to importers of chinese goods if we were to finally take them to task for their currency manipulation and impose tariffs."

They know who butters their bread...  

This is nothing but moral hazard...  where the government tromps, moral hazard ensues. 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:29 | 1333316 ATM
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It probably had something to do with the President being very good friends with the SEIU thugs and WalMarts anti-union stance but that's just a highly educated guess.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:09 | 1333484 Altavoz-de-Verdad
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More like Walmart owns a bunch of politicians and wants to maintain the status quo of dependent, despondent and disiplined American serfs.  They want any one messing up their gravy train to get ratted out and shipped off to gitmo.

When are people going to figure out that the federal government works for the corporations...not against them. 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:42 | 1333055 Oh regional Indian
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To be a key part of the big brother supply chain for Cross Country SNAP? Or some morphed version of rationed everything.
The shenanigans are quite stunning.

And India has all the makings of going off in one of two directions when SHTF. Raging Anarchy or Moribund Police State with Armed forces and huge paramilitary playing some role. Cops are being technologized and smartened up. All very interesting to observe.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:05 | 1333192 Spastica Rex
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Is that mystical "end of the world thing" still on schedule?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:32 | 1333313 Oh regional Indian
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Bob rex, it's unfolding befor our very eyes. You would need to be particularly indoctrinated or wilfully blind to not see that the edge of the cliff is now BEHIND most of us. 

This is just the hang-time before the descent begins in earnest.

Better hang on to that pipe of yours.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:04 | 1333962 Spastica Rex
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I wish I had a pipe. Bourbon will have to do.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:03 | 1333728 DosZap
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I  knew we were in deep caca, when the military started training with our local LE.

That was eons before it got to this point.

As for the comment in the article about there being many places not to have to put up with this crap, and residency is easily obtained.


Residency is one thing, citizenship is quite another.

Only Two places left that will allow quick citizenship, and you had best be ready to drop $250-$400k,to do so.

Blackmail is universal.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:26 | 1332987 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Militias.  And those get ratted out to Al-Queda who gets ratted out to DHS.

Checks and balances seemed to work for a while.  Why not try them again?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:47 | 1333094 flattrader
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On occasion I find myself in Walmart when I travel. [Usually easy to find off the interstate.]

I have not seen a Big Sis monitor yet. When I do, my plan is to declare my displeasure and intent never to return to that store at the  top of my lungs while in the checkout line to a captive audience of other shoppers and cashiers.

Walmart's sales are already for shit.

Do they really want to lose customers with money?...They've already lost the ones that don't have any.

Vote with your wallet.  They'll get the message.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:12 | 1333480 Rhodin
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Back in the day, when Sam Walton was CEO, and Walmart had it's "Buy American" program, I shopped Walmart often.  When Sam died, Walmart dropped the "Buy American" program,  started pressuring their suppliers to move factories to China,  and I shopped there less often.   Now, most things at Walmart are from China, and i go there last;  mostly to look for something when everyone else is out.  Haven't seen Big Sis there yet, and almost everyone else sells stuff from China now too, but i'm still avoiding Walmart for pushing things that way.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:06 | 1333738 DosZap
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Walmart's sales are already for shit.

Yep, I go in a NEW one (Super WalMurt), about 2-3 times a week, and no matter the day or time, it's basically empty.

My area is one of the top counties in Texas, and it's not empty due to lack of $$$$$.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:30 | 1334185 MachoMan
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In my county, we had the lowest unemployment rate in the country through 09 and you can't wade through the zombies at virtually any hour...  I dunno what you guys got going on, but all our walmarts are packed full.  (I think one of our stores was the #1 store in the country through the early to mid 2000s, but I'm not sure as of late.)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:31 | 1333840 RafterManFMJ
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Man I hope I'm next in line - I'm turning you in. Then I get a free $10 gift card.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:59 | 1334252 goldfish1
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Vote with your wallet.  They'll get the message.

Their prices aren't all that. Shop CVS, Walgreens or Rite-Aid. The larger independent grocery stores have weekly specials much better than wm prices.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:48 | 1332767 mayhem_korner
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New Zealand, baby!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:19 | 1332859 Shell Game
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Good thing one can arm themselves in those locales..

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:05 | 1334117 Vlad Tepid
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Less than they have living on the mainland...most Polynesians and Micronesians have left their island fastness and joined the Borg, like any Diaspora, I guess - Irish, Jewish, etc.  I currently live on a small Micronesian island and most of the locals take any opportunity to leave, but they are prideful and resent being "forced" to leave by economic necessity.  It doesn't surprised me that they would form gangs in the States.  New Zealand is a different story as the Maori are indiginous there and are reasserting themselve politically (including thuggery.)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 22:59 | 1334738 John Rotten
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From Wikipedia

"Other gangs are prominent in particular areas, for example the Junior Don Kings (JDK)..."


Imagine the hair on those guys!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:59 | 1333434 lincolnsteffens
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New Zealand does have at least one Maori gang. I think they are mostly in the Auckland area. If drugs were legalized here much of the funds for gangs would dry up. Then with any logic the police and Feds. would be able to concentrate on violent crime.

Oooops. My bad. I forgot logic is not part of our culture any more. Don't you ever wonder why most US cities have areas that are not safe even in daylight? We have military around the globe supposedly keeping us safe and a new Homeland Security machine but it just gets worse here. Is this a plan or just stupidity? Either way the result is the same.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:37 | 1333568 Rhodin
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In the US, the primary drug cartel is run "off books" by government and the banks.  The "war on drugs" controls the competition, helps fund and justify police budgets and allows them to seize cash from anyone carring "too much". 

If drugs were legal, or decriminalised, competition would increase and prices would drop, and slush fund and black op money would need to be re-sourced. Prisons would downsize,  as would many areas of law enforcement.  Most government would take a haircut of some size.  A percentage of drug profits is reserved for contributing to "war on drugs" friendly candidates to keep the "business" running, likewise government union and association candidate recommendations will usually be friendly to "war on drugs".

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:05 | 1333744 DosZap
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Last I heard, citizenship, and residency are a bitch,  if not impossible.

Not so?.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:06 | 1334120 Vlad Tepid
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Depends on who you get married to.  Got a good photographer?  Go "reverse-picture bride."

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:50 | 1332780 Shell Game
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It's so obvious I don't know how so many fail to see it.  Fear and entitlements are the best way to keep a populace dependent on the State.  Throw in MSM misiformation and entertainment feeding stations 24/7 for good measure.  F'cking bullshit way to live.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:31 | 1332968 Clampit
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Taxes are the best way to keep a populace dependent on the State, with security being the justification.

As I see it nothing will change until a large enough group coalesces geographically within the US and declares sovereignty. In contrast to Waco, internet broadcasts of the ensuing military action against what would likely be a simple farming town should be enough to give pause to even the most die hard statists.

I'm truly amazed how many people cling to the notion that somewhere, somebody or some faction is capable of successfully orchestrating society for the common good. We should have better heeded the political lessons of the Third Reich instead of dismissing what occurred as the brain-trust of some already slain super human demon.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:32 | 1333024 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Like anything that can't be reproduced and isolated in a laboratory, people can rationalize that the failure of the paradigm is because there wasn't enough of what failed.

God smote those good christians with a tornado because they weren't praying hard enough. The third reich collapsed because they didn't get every last jew.  The US is crumbling because we aren't statist enough.  Michelle Obama has a fat ass because children have too much tasty food.   You get the idea...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:39 | 1333040 Shell Game
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Well said.  Funny how we are so good at self-policing ourselves every tax season. And how taxes have been burnt into the psyche of our culture. Very European of us..  I agree, mass succession may be the only way out of this, for those who want out..

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:02 | 1333459 Clampit
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"for those who want out.."

Yeah, there's the rub. So many people can't see how a stateless society might work that they cling to the familiar with often indignant apologist tactics. I think we need a serious Flying Spaghetti Monster style candidate to highlight all the silliness in modern political rhetoric. Go team.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:42 | 1334202 MachoMan
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The problem is this: we need some type of central authority and judicial system to balance the wealth gap, confiscate ill gotten gains, and "level" the playing field; if we hack and slash the arms of our government, we will be impotent to honestly and forthrightly deal with our captors.  Once "leveling" has been accomplished, then we can rely upon newly discovered market principles.

Now, it may very well be that we accept the fact that no central authority would ever deal the kind of justice that needs to be done...  so be it...  but, I'm not sure how sincere and diligent we have been in demanding this... 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:07 | 1333754 DosZap
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Blame it on your parents, or Grandparents................

Eisenhower flat out WARNED the USA.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:24 | 1333820 Clampit
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Oh believe me I do ... those pricks. ;-)

A better philosophy, IMHO: Fix the problem not the blame.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:53 | 1332786 moregoldplease
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If one can afford to freely travel and maybe not come back to the USA at the moment, then one should do so. It will be a difficult decision but it is very disturbing to see the totalitarian changes coming our way incrementally. It appears that most US citizens are quite content to snooze while the camps are built.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:00 | 1332823 wombats
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So where do you recommend people go?  How do families w/ kids afford it?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:39 | 1333012 thriftymost
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Come on over to mainland China.  The cops here don't even carry guns.  Sure, they'll arm up awfully fast if and when there's an insurrection on--but that's something the average Chinese will never see.  The bottom line, for me, is that no one is afraid of the police.  Government serves the people.  Everything runs on consensus and pursuit of the common good.  America looks so laughably backwards and barbaric, after a little time spent in China, that you'll never want to return.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:36 | 1333337 Bam_Man
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Last time I looked, China was already an authoritarian Police State.

Is your argument that "They've got it down pat"?

Or are you just being sarcastic?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:21 | 1334164 Confuchius
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You, round eye, watch too much msm.

Come to China a savour true freedom.

For a killer dose, come to Hong Kong.

Maybe too much for round eye accustomed to being told when to go pee.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:56 | 1333416 portfola
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This is true. It's paradoxical, but I never felt freer than when I lived in the police state of China. Of course, I wasn't a journalist on the human rights beat...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:11 | 1333771 DosZap
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Or, could post on a Blog like ZH??.

We know the names,and info have been taken.But, in China, you would never get to criticize/and slam the .gub like here at all, they love 7.62 Toks  and kneeling serfs.

(Soon to change I am sure).

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