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Guest Post: This Would Never Happen Where You Live

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From Simon Black of Sovereign Man

This would never happen where you live

Here’s a great story.

I left Santiago yesterday, quite happy that I had managed to lock up a
major property deal at the 11th hour right before my international
departure. I cut it so close, I literally had to run from my attorneys’
office back to my flat in El Golf within 90-seconds of signing the

I was in such a hurry to make my flight that, when going through
security, I forgot to empty my pockets. I know, the cardinal sin, right?

I had a Blackberry, my wallet, a belt, and several Chilean coins
jingling around in my pants, and the X-ray machine dinged like a winning
slot machine.  Instinctively, I prepared myself for a verbal battle
with some neanderthal who would try and put his hand down my pants.
Except… it didn’t happen.

In my haste, I had almost forgotten that this was Chile, a civilized
place that doesn’t go out of its way to demean citizens and residents at
every available opportunity. No fondling, no fear and intimidation
tactics, no surprise searches, no cash-sniffing dogs, no ‘secondary
screening’, no stasi on the jet bridge.

Instead, the solo security attendant simply asked if I had anything
in my pockets. I pulled out my Blackberry and showed it to him, and he
waved me through. I was on my plane 2-minutes later.

A few days ago, I was having a conversation with our Chief Investment
Strategist Tim Staermose; he was telling me about a similar experience
traveling recently to Macau via hydrofoil from Hong Kong.

During his trip, he checked his luggage, got his boarding pass, went
through immigration control… all the typical sort of international
travel stuff, except for one thing: there were no X-ray machines or
radiating body scanners at all, and there certainly weren’t any surly
border guards to fondle passengers.

As I travel frequently and spend time in so many different countries,
it’s becoming clear to me that there are essentially two categories in
the world– police states that are running towards George Orwell’s view
of the world in 1984, and countries where you can still feel like a free
human being.

Unfortunately, the police states are doing their best to corrupt the
rest of the world. Homeland Security chief Janet Napolitano recently
toured India and met with senior security officials there, undoubtedly
trying to influence them to toughen security measures and join the
Orwellian order.

Back in the US, DHS recently announced its ever-expanding “If you see
something, say something…” program, this time at the 2011 Indianapolis
500 race.

If you’re not familiar, this is the program that encourages people
across the country to become unpaid spies for the federal government and
rat out friends and neighbors for anything ‘suspicious’. In eerie Big
Brother fashion, Napolitano delivers this message from monitors perched
throughout WalMart stores nationwide.

The stated DHS purpose
for the Indy 500 message this past weekend was to “help ensure the
safety and security of fans, employees, and race crews by identifying
and reporting suspicious activity” at the venue.

Realistically, though, it’s just a precursor to having Homeland
Security involved in public sporting events… in addition to airports,
train stations, subway stations, bus stations, and eventually shopping

(This video, though a bit long, should give you an idea of the ridiculously police state conditions that exist in public places.)

This has nothing to do with security, but the gradual brainwashing of
a population to accept a heavier and heavier hand of government in
daily life. They convince people that government is necessary to create
jobs, to provide security. Within a few years, though, this influence
can change the entire face of the country.

Developed countries used to be the light of the world, the pinnacle
of civilization. You could turn on the TV in North America or Europe,
see terrible oppression in third world countries and think, “that would
never happen here.”

Ironically, as I was sensibly waived through security in Chile’s
principal airport yesterday, I thought to myself, “wow, that would never
happen in the United States.”

Similarly, as many of my foreign friends see TV clips of police
battling citizens across Europe, and even in North America, they say
“wow, that would never happen here.”

The tables have truly turned.

Look, economic opportunity exists all over the world, and modern
technology makes the opportunities accessible to just about everyone.
Moreover, nice, clean, developed places exist all over the world, and
there are plenty of ways to obtain residency. We talk about these

Great schools? Excellent hospitals? First rate standard of living? Options are out there, all over the place.

For me, the bottom line is simple: if freedom is something you truly
value, it’s time to start considering these many options… or at a
minimum, to take a step back, look at the big picture, make an honest
assessment of where things are going, and decide if you want to put
yourself and your family on that trajectory.


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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:47 | 1332746 vote_libertaria...
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I don't have the link but Drudge has a link to a guy going thru 9/11 security hell at a Baltimore train station.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:58 | 1333430 DavidC
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Why have you linked to the video that was linked in the article?


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:51 | 1333906 cornedmutton
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So that you would be forced to comment on how stupid I am.

No, not really.  I didn't see it.  Shoot me.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:54 | 1332761 ebworthen
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Yes, as if we in America didn't know about terrorist attacks and need Big Brother to tell us.

Fear mongering from Napolitono and the MSM is fodder for the flag waving sheeple who still believe the eagle/red-white-blue/apple pie bullshit while their Sons and Daughters are sent to die for oil and the continuation of the Crusades and Washington and Wall Street rob them blind and push them into indentured servitude; the gilded cage of consumerism, credit scores, and suckling teat.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:25 | 1332979 AnAnonymous
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Well, well, willingful servants though

 this is the program that encourages people across the country to become unpaid spies for the federal government


In a country people are used to asking a few bucks only to answer a person asking the way, the unpaid work has all its weight.


Not only US citizens fund the project with their hard earned money but they are also ready to deliver work for free without asking for monetary reward.

No goverment manipulation, only the expression of a popular will.

Anytime US citizens do something for free, it tells.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:03 | 1333456 Altavoz-de-Verdad
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Spot on!

The United States is a police state b/c it is a military empire ruled by the corporate elite.  The federal govenment does the bidding of Wall Street, Big Oil, and the Walmarts of the world.



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:47 | 1332765 swamp
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And to whom do I rat out DHS and Walmart?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:02 | 1332858 gosseyn
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"In eerie Big Brother fashion, Napolitano delivers this message from monitors perched throughout WalMart stores nationwide."

Exactly!  And just what is Walmart's incentive for being a DHS cat's paw?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:27 | 1332971 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Probably went something like this in a backroom on K street:

"Hey dats a nice business you got dere.  Shame if something were to happen to it.  You know DHS is pushing for dis new law dat would make your supply chain awfuly slow.  Da boss could probably be persuaded to foget about it in return for her face in you stores"

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:52 | 1333128 MachoMan
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More like, "as I know you are aware, government assistance pays the lion's share of your corporation's bills."  Followed by a long pause and deep stare.  Or a, "it sure would be an inconvenience to importers of chinese goods if we were to finally take them to task for their currency manipulation and impose tariffs."

They know who butters their bread...  

This is nothing but moral hazard...  where the government tromps, moral hazard ensues. 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:29 | 1333316 ATM
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It probably had something to do with the President being very good friends with the SEIU thugs and WalMarts anti-union stance but that's just a highly educated guess.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:09 | 1333484 Altavoz-de-Verdad
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More like Walmart owns a bunch of politicians and wants to maintain the status quo of dependent, despondent and disiplined American serfs.  They want any one messing up their gravy train to get ratted out and shipped off to gitmo.

When are people going to figure out that the federal government works for the corporations...not against them. 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:42 | 1333055 Oh regional Indian
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To be a key part of the big brother supply chain for Cross Country SNAP? Or some morphed version of rationed everything.
The shenanigans are quite stunning.

And India has all the makings of going off in one of two directions when SHTF. Raging Anarchy or Moribund Police State with Armed forces and huge paramilitary playing some role. Cops are being technologized and smartened up. All very interesting to observe.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:05 | 1333192 Spastica Rex
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Is that mystical "end of the world thing" still on schedule?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:32 | 1333313 Oh regional Indian
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Bob rex, it's unfolding befor our very eyes. You would need to be particularly indoctrinated or wilfully blind to not see that the edge of the cliff is now BEHIND most of us. 

This is just the hang-time before the descent begins in earnest.

Better hang on to that pipe of yours.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:04 | 1333962 Spastica Rex
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I wish I had a pipe. Bourbon will have to do.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:03 | 1333728 DosZap
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I  knew we were in deep caca, when the military started training with our local LE.

That was eons before it got to this point.

As for the comment in the article about there being many places not to have to put up with this crap, and residency is easily obtained.


Residency is one thing, citizenship is quite another.

Only Two places left that will allow quick citizenship, and you had best be ready to drop $250-$400k,to do so.

Blackmail is universal.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:26 | 1332987 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Militias.  And those get ratted out to Al-Queda who gets ratted out to DHS.

Checks and balances seemed to work for a while.  Why not try them again?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:47 | 1333094 flattrader
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On occasion I find myself in Walmart when I travel. [Usually easy to find off the interstate.]

I have not seen a Big Sis monitor yet. When I do, my plan is to declare my displeasure and intent never to return to that store at the  top of my lungs while in the checkout line to a captive audience of other shoppers and cashiers.

Walmart's sales are already for shit.

Do they really want to lose customers with money?...They've already lost the ones that don't have any.

Vote with your wallet.  They'll get the message.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:12 | 1333480 Rhodin
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Back in the day, when Sam Walton was CEO, and Walmart had it's "Buy American" program, I shopped Walmart often.  When Sam died, Walmart dropped the "Buy American" program,  started pressuring their suppliers to move factories to China,  and I shopped there less often.   Now, most things at Walmart are from China, and i go there last;  mostly to look for something when everyone else is out.  Haven't seen Big Sis there yet, and almost everyone else sells stuff from China now too, but i'm still avoiding Walmart for pushing things that way.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:06 | 1333738 DosZap
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Walmart's sales are already for shit.

Yep, I go in a NEW one (Super WalMurt), about 2-3 times a week, and no matter the day or time, it's basically empty.

My area is one of the top counties in Texas, and it's not empty due to lack of $$$$$.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:30 | 1334185 MachoMan
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In my county, we had the lowest unemployment rate in the country through 09 and you can't wade through the zombies at virtually any hour...  I dunno what you guys got going on, but all our walmarts are packed full.  (I think one of our stores was the #1 store in the country through the early to mid 2000s, but I'm not sure as of late.)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:31 | 1333840 RafterManFMJ
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Man I hope I'm next in line - I'm turning you in. Then I get a free $10 gift card.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:59 | 1334252 goldfish1
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Vote with your wallet.  They'll get the message.

Their prices aren't all that. Shop CVS, Walgreens or Rite-Aid. The larger independent grocery stores have weekly specials much better than wm prices.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:48 | 1332767 mayhem_korner
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New Zealand, baby!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:19 | 1332859 Shell Game
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Good thing one can arm themselves in those locales..

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:05 | 1334117 Vlad Tepid
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Less than they have living on the mainland...most Polynesians and Micronesians have left their island fastness and joined the Borg, like any Diaspora, I guess - Irish, Jewish, etc.  I currently live on a small Micronesian island and most of the locals take any opportunity to leave, but they are prideful and resent being "forced" to leave by economic necessity.  It doesn't surprised me that they would form gangs in the States.  New Zealand is a different story as the Maori are indiginous there and are reasserting themselve politically (including thuggery.)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 22:59 | 1334738 John Rotten
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From Wikipedia

"Other gangs are prominent in particular areas, for example the Junior Don Kings (JDK)..."


Imagine the hair on those guys!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:59 | 1333434 lincolnsteffens
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New Zealand does have at least one Maori gang. I think they are mostly in the Auckland area. If drugs were legalized here much of the funds for gangs would dry up. Then with any logic the police and Feds. would be able to concentrate on violent crime.

Oooops. My bad. I forgot logic is not part of our culture any more. Don't you ever wonder why most US cities have areas that are not safe even in daylight? We have military around the globe supposedly keeping us safe and a new Homeland Security machine but it just gets worse here. Is this a plan or just stupidity? Either way the result is the same.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:37 | 1333568 Rhodin
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In the US, the primary drug cartel is run "off books" by government and the banks.  The "war on drugs" controls the competition, helps fund and justify police budgets and allows them to seize cash from anyone carring "too much". 

If drugs were legal, or decriminalised, competition would increase and prices would drop, and slush fund and black op money would need to be re-sourced. Prisons would downsize,  as would many areas of law enforcement.  Most government would take a haircut of some size.  A percentage of drug profits is reserved for contributing to "war on drugs" friendly candidates to keep the "business" running, likewise government union and association candidate recommendations will usually be friendly to "war on drugs".

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:05 | 1333744 DosZap
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Last I heard, citizenship, and residency are a bitch,  if not impossible.

Not so?.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:06 | 1334120 Vlad Tepid
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Depends on who you get married to.  Got a good photographer?  Go "reverse-picture bride."

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:50 | 1332780 Shell Game
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It's so obvious I don't know how so many fail to see it.  Fear and entitlements are the best way to keep a populace dependent on the State.  Throw in MSM misiformation and entertainment feeding stations 24/7 for good measure.  F'cking bullshit way to live.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:31 | 1332968 Clampit
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Taxes are the best way to keep a populace dependent on the State, with security being the justification.

As I see it nothing will change until a large enough group coalesces geographically within the US and declares sovereignty. In contrast to Waco, internet broadcasts of the ensuing military action against what would likely be a simple farming town should be enough to give pause to even the most die hard statists.

I'm truly amazed how many people cling to the notion that somewhere, somebody or some faction is capable of successfully orchestrating society for the common good. We should have better heeded the political lessons of the Third Reich instead of dismissing what occurred as the brain-trust of some already slain super human demon.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:32 | 1333024 Andy_Jackson_Jihad
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Like anything that can't be reproduced and isolated in a laboratory, people can rationalize that the failure of the paradigm is because there wasn't enough of what failed.

God smote those good christians with a tornado because they weren't praying hard enough. The third reich collapsed because they didn't get every last jew.  The US is crumbling because we aren't statist enough.  Michelle Obama has a fat ass because children have too much tasty food.   You get the idea...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:39 | 1333040 Shell Game
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Well said.  Funny how we are so good at self-policing ourselves every tax season. And how taxes have been burnt into the psyche of our culture. Very European of us..  I agree, mass succession may be the only way out of this, for those who want out..

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:02 | 1333459 Clampit
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"for those who want out.."

Yeah, there's the rub. So many people can't see how a stateless society might work that they cling to the familiar with often indignant apologist tactics. I think we need a serious Flying Spaghetti Monster style candidate to highlight all the silliness in modern political rhetoric. Go team.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:42 | 1334202 MachoMan
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The problem is this: we need some type of central authority and judicial system to balance the wealth gap, confiscate ill gotten gains, and "level" the playing field; if we hack and slash the arms of our government, we will be impotent to honestly and forthrightly deal with our captors.  Once "leveling" has been accomplished, then we can rely upon newly discovered market principles.

Now, it may very well be that we accept the fact that no central authority would ever deal the kind of justice that needs to be done...  so be it...  but, I'm not sure how sincere and diligent we have been in demanding this... 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:07 | 1333754 DosZap
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Blame it on your parents, or Grandparents................

Eisenhower flat out WARNED the USA.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:24 | 1333820 Clampit
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Oh believe me I do ... those pricks. ;-)

A better philosophy, IMHO: Fix the problem not the blame.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:53 | 1332786 moregoldplease
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If one can afford to freely travel and maybe not come back to the USA at the moment, then one should do so. It will be a difficult decision but it is very disturbing to see the totalitarian changes coming our way incrementally. It appears that most US citizens are quite content to snooze while the camps are built.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:00 | 1332823 wombats
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So where do you recommend people go?  How do families w/ kids afford it?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:39 | 1333012 thriftymost
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Come on over to mainland China.  The cops here don't even carry guns.  Sure, they'll arm up awfully fast if and when there's an insurrection on--but that's something the average Chinese will never see.  The bottom line, for me, is that no one is afraid of the police.  Government serves the people.  Everything runs on consensus and pursuit of the common good.  America looks so laughably backwards and barbaric, after a little time spent in China, that you'll never want to return.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:36 | 1333337 Bam_Man
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Last time I looked, China was already an authoritarian Police State.

Is your argument that "They've got it down pat"?

Or are you just being sarcastic?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:21 | 1334164 Confuchius
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You, round eye, watch too much msm.

Come to China a savour true freedom.

For a killer dose, come to Hong Kong.

Maybe too much for round eye accustomed to being told when to go pee.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:56 | 1333416 portfola
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This is true. It's paradoxical, but I never felt freer than when I lived in the police state of China. Of course, I wasn't a journalist on the human rights beat...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:11 | 1333771 DosZap
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Or, could post on a Blog like ZH??.

We know the names,and info have been taken.But, in China, you would never get to criticize/and slam the .gub like here at all, they love 7.62 Toks  and kneeling serfs.

(Soon to change I am sure).

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:18 | 1334151 Vlad Tepid
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I'm with you Dos.  Anyone who says the PRC is the place to go is obviously A) insane; B) never travelled there; C) isn't looking hard enough for a serious place to remove themselves to; or D) all of the above.  Second of all, they simply don't take "refugees" or immigrants of any type.  If someone has such a love affair with the PRC, move to "freer" states like Kazakhstan or Russia and just visit every day.  I know nobody takes those idiots seriously who say the PRC is the place to go, but it still gets to me.  That National Inflation Association group has a serious hard-on for living in China and they won't engage me in any discussion about it.  That's when I stopped paying attention to them.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:36 | 1333868 Confuchius
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The Third Reich "Masters" did have one irreplaceable and required plan: Liquidation.

Starting with: You get to pick!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:54 | 1332787 TheTmfreak
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Going through Kuwait international I had to go through 3 different security sections. None of the individuals were even looking at the xray monitors, nor checking people who buzzed the security machines. I learned one lesson, and that was that the pretending of security was to placate the west.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:12 | 1333782 DosZap
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It should have also told you they give a shit less about your life, or theirs for that matter.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:54 | 1332797 GOSPLAN HERO
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"It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them."  ---Adolph Hitler, National Socialist German Workers Party 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:08 | 1333194 I_ate_the_crow
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:15 | 1333796 DosZap
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"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

Your Friend,


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:44 | 1333882 Confuchius
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The Swiss have "gun registration", because every Swiss has guns. Government issued guns. Government issued ammunition. It kept the Huns out, because everyone was armed. Everyone is still armed. There is a lesson here.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:53 | 1332805 Vergeltung
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this article is a non-starter. who the feck wants to blow stuff up in Chile? the splodey-dopes apparently don't, otherwise it would have happened already with that lame-ass security.

"the security was non-existant in [inset third world non-international-actor state here]"

well, duh.......

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:09 | 1332875 Sean7k
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The only people blowing up stuff here is the US government via false flag operations. There was a time travel was fun, now, you can be molested to the point of real terror- see the texas miss america video on you tube. 

When "security" reduces the quality of life that far, security is the problem.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 12:55 | 1332812 Spastica Rex
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I don't understand why Terry Gilliam's 1985 film Brazil hasn't become a classic that's played on T.V. all the time. Oh wait, maybe I do.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:20 | 1334000 Cathartes Aura
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seriously.  top o' my list, worth many repeated views.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:00 | 1332824 Jason T
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The Monsters are Due on Maple Street...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:02 | 1332834 Hondo
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Not unlike Nazi Germany and every and all communist states.........we are there make no mistake about it.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:04 | 1332866 hedgeless_horseman
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They Thought They Were Free The Germans, 1933-45 Milton Mayer

"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing.

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:08 | 1332883 Sean7k
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Great post.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:08 | 1332884 Bob
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Authoritarianism With a Friendly Face

In the minds of the American public, the dominant media, and the accommodating pundits and intellectuals, there is no sense of how authoritarianism in its soft and hard forms can manifest itself as anything other than horrible images of concentration camps, goose-stepping storm troopers, rigid modes of censorship, and chilling spectacles of extremist government repression and violence. That is, there is little understanding of how new modes of authoritarian ideology, policy, values, and social relations might manifest themselves in degrees and gradations so as to create the conditions for a distinctly undemocratic and increasingly cruel and oppressive social order. As the late Susan Sontag suggested in another context, there is a willful ignorance of how emerging registers of power and governance “dissolve politics into pathology.”[10] It is generally believed that in a constitutional democracy, power is in the hands of the people, and that the long legacy of democratic ideals in America, however imperfect, is enough to prevent democracy from being subverted or lost. And yet the lessons of history provide clear examples of how the emergence of reactionary politics, the increasing power of the military, and the power of big business subverted democracy in Argentina, Chile, Germany, and Italy. In spite of these histories, there is no room in the public imagination to entertain what has become the unthinkable—that such an order in its contemporary form might be more nuanced, less theatrical, more cunning, less concerned with repressive modes of control than with manipulative modes of consent—what one might call a mode of authoritarianism with a distinctly American character. [11]

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:19 | 1332926 OutLookingIn
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Dancing anywhere near D.C.'s monuments will get you arrested.

Its for out own protection. Protection from what or whom?

Oh yah. Theres a terrorist behind every tree! Just like during the 'McCarthy Years', when there was a communist behind every tree!

DHS plays on our own paranoia. Fear is a powerful motivator. They know this and use it to their full advantage to expand control and supervision. For our own protection, mind you!

Brown/blue/white shirt thugs employed to enforce. Make no mistake - they will fire on their fellow citizen, using lethal force. Already happening. Police do not serve & protect the people any longer. They serve themselves and protect their 'fat' wallets and golden pensions.  

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:52 | 1333131 flattrader
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No dancing?  Really?  I've missed something.

News article? 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:54 | 1333141 downrodeo
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Thanks for your post. You are right on point here.


You inspired me to post some thoughts from Bill Hicks, may he rest in peace forever:

The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we … kill those people. "Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok … But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.


This is a message that is worth repeating. Peace everybody.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:28 | 1334031 Cathartes Aura
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dejunked. . . truthfully.

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:46 | 1334225 MachoMan
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Nothing to kill or die for denotes a worthless existence.  I think what he meant was he was imagining things, but having a very hard time thinking through them given his rampant drug abuse.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 21:16 | 1334543 Cathartes Aura
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Nothing to kill or die for denotes a worthless existence.

people who volunteer to kill/die for fictive corporate nationstates are tools, literally.

I like GHarrison's lyrics better:

We were talking-about the space between us all
And the people-who hide themselves behind a wall of illusion
Never glimpse the truth-then it's far too late-when they pass away.
We were talking-about the love we all could share-when we find it
To try our best to hold it there-with our love
With our love-we could save the world-if they only knew.
Try to realize it's all within yourself
No-one else can make you change
And to see you're really only very small,
And life flows ON within you and without you.
We were talking-about the love that's gone so cold and the people,
Who gain the world and lose their soul-
They don't know-they can't see-are you one of them?
When you've seen beyond yourself-then you may find, peace of mind,
Is waiting there-
And the time will come when you see
we're all one, and life flows on within you and without you.

Within You Without You" lyrics George Harrison.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:16 | 1334774 MachoMan
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In short, Mr. Yoko was being naively optimistic...  his proposal would not stop the problems, only change them slightly...  he's just scratching at the surface and, sadly, barking up the wrong tree.   

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 10:22 | 1335805 downrodeo
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So what say you Macho? Do humans ever evolve past the need to wage war with one another?

Some say complete and total economic interdependence is the only avenue to world peace. I tend to agree with that notion, but, like all things, it is probably much more easily said than done.

Of course, 'world peace' could be achieved through a brave new world type scenario as well. I suppose it all depends on how we define the objective.

Fri, 06/03/2011 - 14:59 | 1337054 MachoMan
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Conflict is a rudimentary part of human nature.  The way we want the world is simply different than it often turns out... sometimes, the discrepancy between the two is so important that we are willing to engage in mortal combat to seek reconciliation.  Ultimately, this conflict gives rise to passion, sincerity, and valuing life itself.  When I speak of conflict, I do not mean a struggle over finite resources, but rather the hindrance of our ability to self govern (although the two often times intersect).  Conflict is necessary for any sense of self fulfillment.

Although war could be described as an individual action, I think as confined to our parameters, war is on the decline.  Simply put, the notion of world war has likely seen its day in the sun and our wars are becoming much more localized...  more discriminate killing involved...  etc.  Eventually, interdependence will cause these to be all but gone.

The problem, of course, (where lennon goes off kilter) is the system of governance to impose upon the world...  will a world republic hold its freedoms as well as our constitution? (laugh).  This is why huxley envisioned a sort of hedonistic society whose government fuels inhibitions...  this is incredibly convenient control, but control nonetheless...  while not the polar opposite of freedom, it need not be to be incredibly dangerous and, ultimately, subvert the human spirit.  This is why the protests for entitlements should scare people...  we're simply demanding the brave new world...  we're willing to trade our ability to be fulfilled for contentment and a more animalistic existence (reaction rather than contemplation).

Through this universal governance, the rudimentary concept of conflict is lost.  The state whereby we may conceptualize greater than ourselves and our captors and set into motion the changes necessary to realize our greater existence is no more.  It would be like one of the wheels of a car deciding to spin the other way for a while.  It simply cannot be done.  As a result, all of the passion all of the triumph of the human spirit, those things that separate us from sharks, those things that truly make us appreciate our lives get traded for superficial and common experiences.

The war of the future will be fought on an individual level (conflict is unique, although many persons may have coinciding conflict)...  it will be one man and his airplane versus an IRS building...  it will be one gunman at a supermarket versus his congresswoman...  it will be one asshole in a bell tower...  etc.  All on the slow march towards world governance.  The largest conflicts will be what we commonly refer to now as insurrections...  often times quickly and mercilessly ended.  Your only solace may be to venture to the savage lands.

Through this resolution of conflict, some intricate and necessary part of the human condition will be lost...  I simply do not believe that we can stop having regional armed conflict, with everything on the table, and still value our existence the same way...  even if that action is so far removed from one so as to be light years away, that fact still resonates deep in the mind of that state's citizen.  That other people are dying on his behalf...  or had to at some point in time...  I suppose this is very similar to the moral of the movie "demolition man"...  whereby the savage from a bygone era shows the world their normalized, passionless, and ridiculous existence...  that although they are "safer" and relatively conflict free, they lost something in the transition.

After my billy madison response, to answer your question, yes we evolve past wars...  but not without a hefty price.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:21 | 1333803 DosZap
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Oh yah. Theres a terrorist behind every tree! Just like during the 'McCarthy Years', when there was a communist behind every tree!



Son of a Bitch, and he was right.

Guess where the Progressives came from?.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:30 | 1334039 Cathartes Aura
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. . . you still calling yourself a Zionist, Dos?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:58 | 1333936 Confuchius
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A perfect quote from an unknown American:

"What goes around, comes around".

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:04 | 1332845 Libertarian777
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This has nothing to do with security

This should be corrected.

This has EVERYTHING to do with job security.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:02 | 1332855 JW n FL
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1) House and Senate Renew PATRIOT Act With No Modifications
2) National Security Letters Increasingly Used on Americans
3) Proposed Senate Bill Would Add Civil Liberties Protections
4) Senators Raise Concerns on DOJ's Interpretation of PATRIOT

1) House and Senate Renew PATRIOT Act With No Modifications

On May 26, the House and Senate renewed three controversial provisions of law related to the USA PATRIOT Act that were set to expire the next day.  The renewal was passed in the form of an amendment to an unrelated bill, S. 990, that itself temporarily extended authorities of the Small Business Administration.  Despite efforts by individual Senators to introduce modifications to the Act's intelligence authorities, the final bill simply renewed the expiring provisions until June 1, 2015 without changes.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:02 | 1332856 iPood
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Beautifully stated. So depressing.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:24 | 1333262 Oh regional Indian
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That has to be the freakiest avaatar I have seen. Congratulations.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:03 | 1332862 Dr. Richard Head
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I posted a link to the Jefferson Memorial Dance Beatdown on my LinkedIn page (I know, I know) and I received a message from an old friend of mine.  I wanted to post it here to give you a detailed look at the mindset of one of the sheeple.  This "friend" and I have not said a word to each other in 15 years and there have been plenty of things to talk about; however, this is the message he felt the need to express to me after so many years. 

"Hey dude. Long time no talk to. Hope you are doing well!
I have to say that you do provide some entertainment on LinkedIn. I enjoy reading some of your comments or stories that you post. Clearly you are a Libertarian and I respect that about you. I'm a conservative Republican myself and see many parallels between your beliefs and mine.
However, I have a question for you regarding one of your latest posts. Before I emailed you I checked out that YouTube video of what happened at Jefferson Memorial. I think both parties acted irresponsibly, but I'm struggling to understand what the purpose of the dancing was. The Jefferson Memorial is just that...a memorial recognizing the life of one of the founding fathers. While dancing isn't exactly yelling and screaming profanity or crapping on the floor of the memorial, I find it to be rather disrespectful of what the true meaning of the memorial is. Memorials are erected to preserve remembrance of someone or something. Perhaps some people believe that dancing in front of the Jefferson memorial is supposed to be a tribute to that individual who believed in freedom of speech and expression which Jefferson certainly did. Personally, I think it's ridiculous. Instead of dancing in front of a memorial, how about spending that time trying to do something good for someone.
I'm not a big fan of people that do these things to try and prove a point. I believe in freedom of speech and expression. But I also believe that it was put in place to have the freedom to speak up about things that the government has done that you disagree with. For instance, you should have the right to protest a war without being persecuted by the federal government. Is dancing in front of a memorial against the law? It shouldn't be... But, it's also quite stupid. What were they trying to prove? We're not a police state simply because people were arrested for dancing in front of a memorial. They were asked to stop and they didn't. Responsible citizens should spend their time doing something productive for society.
If we were really a police state, would you be able to burn a US flag. Absolutely not. Yet that is still protected. The Westboro Baptist church is still allowed to hold up their signs outside military funerals, although I painfully disagree with their message.
Point is, we still have a ton more freedoms than most nations in the world. I'll never be a big fan of idiots that try to prove a point by acting stupid. If you had a parent or family member pass away that you loved, and at their memorial service someone who hated them came and was dancing right behind everyone standing their paying their tributes, would you applaud them for their freedom of expression? Probably not... Ultimately, I'll just pray for these people in hopes that they may find a way to do good things for people rather than spending their time acting ridiculously.

Regards, "


I guess it is time to brush up on my Spanish -

Donde este la Puta? 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:12 | 1332903 Silver Dreamer
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God how I hate nationalists!  "Responsible citizens should spend their time doing something productive for society."

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:46 | 1333072 Dr. Richard Head
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I guess when he says people should focus on doing "good" things for others I guess he means good as in supporting the MIC like he does with his company -

This is nothing more gooder than making the homicide bombers of the US faster and more powerful.  The more innocents we can kill from a far, the more gooder we become.  Heil Bush Obama.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:11 | 1333982 Josey Montana
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Then think of them like this: 


A family business (the Pilgrims) make a substantial investment in real estate and manufacturing opportunities in an underdeveloped market (British North America).  The principals figure they might lose money during the first several years, but take the long-term perspective that building a business as a legacy to their children is an honorable act.  In fact, given the realities of agriculture and manufacturing, it may require several decades of investment to ensure profitability.

As the years go by, their enterprise is successful, drawing more and more like-minded and later simply greedy individuals who overwhelm the founders and eventually dominate them, even appropriating the brand name (American) unethically but not illegally since the Founders didn't register it as a trademark, according to a self-serving interpretation made by a judge who is himself one of the greedy newcomers.

As a practical matter, there is nothing to be done here.  The newcomers outnumber the founders by 2:1 or more.  The law has been "accommodated" to suit their needs at the expense of the founders.  Tough shit! is the basic response.

While it may be a done deed, irreversible and never to be unwound, there is nothing on God's green earth that says the screwed-over founders have to like being screwed.

Given their dispositions, they might even take the long view of this situation and plot revenge at an opportune, future date when the thieves least expect it.

This is nationalism.  Only a selfish, greedy bastard without children would disagree except for one's team affiliation.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:19 | 1332924 rufusbird
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Sometimes when people say "I'll pray for you..." it is the same thing as saying "feck you"

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:27 | 1332991 Dr. Richard Head
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I simply responded to him with some YouTubes of the police brutality in G20 in Pittsburgh, Republican National Convention, and Democratic National Convention.

May his chains rest heavily upon him and may posterity forget that he was my countrymen. –

Dr. Richard Head

I laugh because today I received the Galls - THE Authority in Public Safet Equipment and Apparel - in the mail today.  i am not even in the field of the police so I don't understand why I go it.  Anyway,.the tactical gear of these thugs is for their protection and not that of the Public.  Fuck them and fuck my "friend".


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:31 | 1333018 Captain Willard
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Your friend has given up.

It's simply easier to conform. Dissidence is pretty exhausting. He now views dancing eccentrics as threats to the Republic. Geez!

The Memorial celebrates Mr. J's ideas and ideals. Freedom was at the top of his list. Perhaps your friend has the Jefferson Memorial confused with Arlington Cemetery, which is across the Tidal Basin from the JM.

And by the way, any good Cavalier knows that Mr. Jefferson danced a mean minuet. TJ would have served the dancers rum punch and might even have joined in.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:40 | 1333047 Dr. Richard Head
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My "friend" has closed his eyes as a child would in fear.  The point in my life where the clarity of the authoritarian rule surrounding us resulted in a two year period of anger and fear.  Those feeling have been replaced with anger and dissidence.  I assume apathy wil again find its way, but find it hard to turn a blind eye to the bullshit anymore.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:07 | 1333188 That Peak Oil Guy
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Good ol' Dick Head...  :-)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:39 | 1333356 FreeNewEnergy
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Janet has her eye on you and if you are seen dancing or even tapping your feet, DHS has orders to taze you, bro!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:41 | 1333374 Dr. Richard Head
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Kinky.  DHS Taze with TSA gropedown orgy. Redtube needs to add this scenario to their search terms. 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:13 | 1333991 Confuchius
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The 13 colonies original settlers came from Europe to escape the tyranny. Now it is clear to all who "see" that the tyranny has followed their trail and it is now past time to execute the same path of avoidance as those ancestors took. Perhaps South would be a safe choice. But not North.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:48 | 1334082 I did it by Occident
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Yeah, but isn't  our God-given right to be stupid, ridiculous, and lazy if we so choose?  Funny how the letter states that jefferson was for freedom of expression and then almost in the next sentence states "People have better things to do, than to be ridiculous, blahblahblah."  Jeez, man so much for argumentive coherence.   

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:18 | 1332877 Silver Dreamer
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I understand the author's motivation is good, but I refuse to abandon our republic as dead forever.  Perhaps it is not a good choice to force that fate on my spouse and children either.  Liberty dying here for good will certainly mean liberty's death elsewhere will soon follow.  We have to fight soon, or there will be no ability to fight in the future at all.  There is no island far enough away to protect yourself or the ones you love from the banksters and their armies.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:18 | 1333996 Confuchius
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"There is no island..."

Are you really sure of that?

You could be very very wrong.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:50 | 1334234 Vlad Tepid
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Liberty dying here for good will certainly mean liberty's death elsewhere will soon follow. 

That's not true at all.  Liberty dying in Japan and Germany in the 30's didn't mean it died everywhere, etc.  There's just no precedent for that, nor would the "Dead Liberty" America have the military or economic wherewithall to enforce their will on everyone else.  Countries that oppress their own citizens are almost myopically focused on that repression to the detriment of exporting their brutality overseas.  That was the whole Stalin/Trotsky debate.  For the sake of my spouse and children, I've made the decision to relocate before "there is on one left to speak for me."

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:15 | 1332902 b_thunder
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Well, Mr. Sovereign Man, if you were "sensibly" waived through security in Chile’s airport   after the magnetometer detected metal, but you showed them your BB?  They just waived by, you didn't have to go through the marnetometer again?  In that case you or anyone else in your position could have carried a loaded Glock onboard. 

I like TSA and semi-retards who enforce the aptriot Act no more than you do, but the metal detectors were in palce since....  forever?  And that Chilean "security" guy just made a potentially very grave mistake.


Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:20 | 1333246 Tuco Benedicto ...
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I think all passengers when boarding a passenger jet should be armed.  I will take a few risks and retain my freedom!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:21 | 1334016 Confuchius
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By what twisted logic do you find "security" provided by armed thugs and gangsters necessary.

Does anyone on ZH recall of ANY airplane hijacking? anywhere? Ever?

Thought so.

No hijacked cruise ships?

No trains?

No busses?

And while you are scratching your heads; what, exactly, are all the FEMA prison camps for?

A place for politicians when they get (re) elected?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:05 | 1334277 Vlad Tepid
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Does the movie "Speed" count?  But seriously I could name example of each one of those off the top of my head, so don't rely on that to support your argument.  I agree with you though that when security is more inconvenient than the terrorism its supposed to protect us from, it has become the defacto terrorism.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:16 | 1332909 Atch Logan
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This is the same as East Germany before the wall came down.  It was called, if I recall right, "Selective Surveillance."  Really, it was "rat your neighbor."  Actually, it is the only way a police/fascist state can really survive efficiently:  if one half of the population is ratting out the other half, then there is total rigidity; everyone is scared to move.  If you want to see this in action right here in America, come to Kansas.  It has been in effect as part of the "We are Kansas" program, with great effect.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:52 | 1333117 djsmps
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I've lived in Wichita, KS for the last 7 1/2 years and I have never heard of a "We Are Kansas" program.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:56 | 1333435 LFMayor
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Address please....  we'll send a "we are Kansas" representative right over.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:42 | 1334070 Cathartes Aura
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Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:14 | 1333225 Tuco Benedicto ...
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Remember what Solzhenitsyn said:

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the down-stairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of a half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? … The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt.

If …. if… We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation… We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:55 | 1334100 FeralSerf
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The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising in 1943 is instructive.  They didn't have much in the way of weapons and they lost, but it wasn't as much fun for the SS as they'd expected.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:11 | 1334282 Vlad Tepid
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And they died free men rather than live as slaves.  It's instructive to remember that Stalin order the tanks to stop outside Warsaw until the SS and Jews had finished killing each other and then took over a city full of the surviving, passive half-starved sheep.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:13 | 1332911 onlooker
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It may be that for whatever reason the Nations that have light security are not under threat of citizens getting killed by a pissed off religious group.

Apples and oranges

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:24 | 1332949 Arnolds Love Child
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Maybe their media and governments aren't owned or occupied by religious groups. The whole scam was about domestic brainwashing and stealing the only asset left they wanted, our military.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:18 | 1332921 Derpin USA
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In his work "2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl," Daniel Pinchbeck makes the case that the end of the Mayan calendar is not the end of the world, but the dawning of a new age in human consciousness. He says this will be a positive development.

I strongly disagree. I think the new consciousness will be unconsciousness. It will be the darkest time in human history. It will be an age of unrelenting cruelty, fear and slavery. People will be so unable to live outside the system that the only option will be the system or death.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:28 | 1332963 hedgeless_horseman
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 It will be the darkest time in human history.

Like this?




Syrian boy, 13, burned, kneecapped, tortured, castrated, shot by Assad regime


...and two recent pics from Mexico:


Will you give up your freedoms to be "safe" from this type of violence?  There will be a test.  How will you react if and when this horror comes to your town?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:38 | 1333034 Derpin USA
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I'll shoot back.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:03 | 1333137 hedgeless_horseman
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A)  Leave

B)  Vote for the strongman that promises to "protect" you

C)  Join in the violence

D)  Do nothing and hope that you are not affected

E)  Fight

It is always best to know the question and the answer choices before the test. 

I'll shoot back.

If indeed you plan on E as your answer, then make sure to learn from the mistakes of the Syrians and Mexicans that also elected to fight like many before them, so as to hopefully not end up with a similiar result.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:17 | 1333235 Tuco Benedicto ...
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It is on record that U. S. soldiers tortured the children of suspected terrorists in front of their parents.  Now there's a government you can trust!  I can defend myself thank you very much.


P. S.  If you get your news from major corporate media you are being

        deluded and propagandized.  Try a red pill for a change.


Tuco Benedictor Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 21:27 | 1334568 BloodPigOnFeces
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It's probably propaganda, like the lies about Iraqi soldiers in gulf war 1 throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:22 | 1332960 Bicycle Repairman
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"... it’s just a precursor to having Homeland Security involved in public sporting events… in addition to airports, train stations, subway stations, bus stations, and eventually shopping malls."

People, particularly owners of stadiums and malls, have to understand that if the TSA shows up, I'm outta there.  Full boycott.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:13 | 1334296 Vlad Tepid
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Amen.  I can watch SF struggle for a playoff berth from the comfort of my home that the police in Indiana can enter at any time.  (Thank god I don't live in that hell-hole!)

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:29 | 1332984 fxguy
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As a foreigner or even as a US citizen, entering the US of A now resembles
the process of entering a highly secure prison. Gates, guards, body scanners,
questions, searches, removal of clothing (shoes, belts... ) All this to enter
"the land of the free" ... Those of you who travel between the US and Mexico or
Canada (by car) have probably noticed the searches and questioning of peope *leaving*
the US as well. These are US officers searching and questioning people leaving
the US of A.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:28 | 1332998 Negro Primero
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Across the country, police officers and other government officials are waging a war on cameras. People everywhere are being harassed, detained, threatened, assaulted, and even arrested just for legally taking photographs or filming. Government officials are even unlawfully confiscating cameras and destroying photographs and videos. This map was created to track this disturbing trend.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:38 | 1333349 Shitters_Full
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Thanks for this.  Unbelievable.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:29 | 1334032 MisterMousePotato
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Wonderful link. Thank you. Anyone with an interest in the subject should take a look, imho.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:29 | 1334047 Confuchius
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Rather than a camera/phone, camera/phone/lasers. 10Kw lasers. They don't like your camera? Poof! Barbecue!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 23:03 | 1334630 kito
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your link is skewed and ridiculous. the number of incidents compared to the number of people taking pictures all across this country on a daily basis is miniscule. im in manhattan every day. there are people taking photos of the wtc area, of the brooklyn bridge, of time square, and i have NEVER seen anybody get harrassed. people can get harrassed for any breach of any supposed law if an officer oversteps his bounds. you are unappreciative of your country. go live in latin america or africa for a while, and see if you dont come crawling back with a sense of gratitude for this nation.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:28 | 1332999 Lowest Common D...
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I refuse to subscribe to a "duty to retreat" take on our nation's difficulties.  "Castle Doctrine" FTW.  The USA is my home, and I will defend it from the crypto and proto fascists.  It's the duty of a citizen.  Running away is a coward's play.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 19:17 | 1334306 Vlad Tepid
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"He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day." 

But if you don't have kids that can be corrupted by all this crypto and proto fascist bullshit, I say more power to you.  I know what happened to the regular people's kids under the Nazis, Stalinists et al and will not give them the pleasure of warping my kid's mind. 

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:31 | 1333017 splattered
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How can any sane person put up with living in the USA? I go there as rarely as possible because I hate having to face those gorrillas at the airport.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:31 | 1334054 Confuchius
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All the heavy travellers we know avoid the USSA like the plague. You like it? You happy in a police state? Stay there.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:32 | 1333020 Tuco Benedicto ...
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95% of our government has been bought and paid for by a cartel of international banksters and huge corporations alah the Mussolini Corporate Fascist State.  As some are finally figuring out Homeland Security was set up to be used on the American people.  It has absolutely nothing to do with men in caves with turbins on their heads.  This is all part of the New World Order whereby a worldwide fascist state will be set up and China is the model.  Once this worldwide police state is set up systematic eugenics is the end game.  Don't believe it!?  Just wait and see.  "If you see tryanny say something!"


Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 17:33 | 1334056 Confuchius
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Unfortunately, for those too lazy to move out, all of this is true.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:32 | 1333021 catch edge ghost
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Is that a camel in your tent or are you just happy to see me?

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:41 | 1333064 williambanzai7
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In Singapore, if you want to have a public protest you can do so with a permit at a venue called Speakers Corner which is next to the police station downtown.

The singaporeans call that place Speakers Cornered...

Need I say more?

Thu, 06/30/2011 - 03:50 | 1414715 Yen Cross
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  Singapore is smooth like Oriental Silk right now.  Show respect and you get respect!


    Good people Yen.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:51 | 1333125 SmoothCoolSmoke
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Chile is great.  Heck, they even let you smoke there.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:07 | 1333160 hedgeless_horseman
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Will you be able to receive free* lung cancer treatment in Chile like with Medicare in America?

*($162 annual co-pay and 80/20 coinsurance on Medicare allowables all denominated in and funded by a devaluing currency usually from A) Social Security benefits that are not increaseing due to no increase in .gov CPI; or B) from personal savings accounts yielding near 0% nominally, and negative real returns).

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 13:58 | 1333155 Trundle
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There is nothing here that the Yippies couldn't solve or at least exacerbate.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:04 | 1333173 Stuck on Zero
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I don't think that anyone anywhere would disagree that the center of suspicious activity worldwide is in Washington DC.  And fortunately ZeroHedge is there to report it.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:09 | 1333202 dugorama
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I suggest we all call Homeland Security and report something suspicious.  Do a Goldman style document dump.  You know something like, "I just saw an Arab looking man at the Safeway at Hollywood and Vine!  He was talking in a funny language on his cell phone!  Quick you can catch him"

etc. etc.

See something and say something.  Daily.  I just need to figure out how to anonymously.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:23 | 1333283 Atch Logan
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If you have lived in Kansas for 7 years and haven't heard of the "We are Kansas" program/ads, then you aren't watching the msm. That's probably good.  But you cannot live in Kansas and not know about NIAs, neighborhood improvement associations.  Where do I start with this? Well I am not. Just figure NIAs are Selective Surveillance.  Neighbors reporting neighbors to the police:  they don't need to be turbaned, or black, or brown (but often they are). This is a Kansas heritage.

All I'm doing is responding to "this cannot happen here."  My point is that it is happening here. This stuff exists before Homeland Security busts into town (and it has).  I live in the Capital. Quite frankly, I hate walking around with my eyes on the ground and keeping my mouth shut.  Last week, I was denied by censorship a biography on Dr.Ernesto Guevara (Che Guevara) at the Topeka/Shawned County Library.

I am glad you are free of all of this in Wichita.  Or are you?



Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:35 | 1333352 web bot
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Are the Chinese becoming American.... and the Americans becoming Chinese???

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:37 | 1333344 docmac324
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The conditioning of society is rampant.  What I hate (did I say hate?) I hate the law/police shows where the detective actors condition viewers into believing they can indirectly pressure/muscle information or leverage/threaten it out of people without an attorney present, miranda rights read, OR their illegal searches justified for the sake doing good.  Kill your TV, kill it.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 14:39 | 1333354 gwar5
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Intimidation: Unfortunately if you see something and say something against an administration constituent, you will be severely punished. Intimidation

Those who reported the chanting Imams on the airline that ws boarding were sued.  The airline had to pay $700K.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:10 | 1333511 NidStyles
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Have you guy's every tried calling that DHS See something line? Try and take a hint about how it work's out for you and what that mean's. The whole thing is a scam.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:47 | 1334221 Clycntct
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The new make work program.

We need more pain before she blows.

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 15:52 | 1333690 DosZap
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You left out TOILET stalls,and any public dressing rooms.

Sieg Heil!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 16:46 | 1333901 tradewithdave
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I saw something... I'm saying something...

Fuze - more than a fruit drink:

Future crime... there's an app for that:

There's a new sheriff in town and his name's not Eric:

Won't you be, won't you be, my terrorist neighbor:

I predict there will be a predictive policing symposium:

Dave Harrison

Thu, 06/02/2011 - 18:06 | 1334121 Cathartes Aura
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so, all the way down the thread, and still no mention of Chile's recent history, including military coups & violence, the "Chicago Boys" infiltrating of governance, torture of the citizens, "shock therapy" applied to the economy, etc.

Finally, a military coup overthrew Allende on September 11, 1973. As the armed forces bombarded the presidential palace, Allende apparently committed suicide.[39][40] A military junta, led by General Augusto Pinochet Ugarte, took over control of the country. The first years of the regime were marked by human rights violations. On October 1973, at least 72 people were murdered by the Caravan of Death.[41] According to the Rettig Report and Valech Commission, at least 2,115 were killed,[42] and at least 27,265 [43] were tortured (including 88 children younger than 12 years old).[43] A new Constitution was approved by a controversial plebiscite on September 11, 1980, and General Pinochet became president of the republic for an 8-year term. After Pinochet obtained rule of the country, several hundred committed Chilean revolutionaries joined the Sandinista army in Nicaragua, guerrilla forces in Argentina or training camps in Cuba, Eastern Europe and Northern Africa.[44]

In the late 1980s, largely as a result of events such as the 1982 economic collapse[45] and mass civil resistance in 1983–88, the government gradually permitted greater freedom of assembly, speech, and association, to include trade union and political activity.[46] The government launched market-oriented reforms with Hernán Büchi as Minister of Finance, but poverty levels continued growing.[47] Chile moved toward a free market economy that saw an increase in domestic and foreign private investment[. . .]

ahhh how soon we forget, must be the fluoride in the tap water. . .

now Chile is "safe" for rich amrkn colonisers to move into, and so cheap!!! to live in. . .

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