Guest Post: You Want To Fix The U.S. Economy? Here's A Start

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Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:38 | 1470056 bill1102inf
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#1, the banks would be insolvent immediately.

#2, why not let ANYONE borrow from the government and allow the loans to be defaulted. Lets give out $100,000.00 to everyone.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:46 | 1470105 ElvisDog
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You're missing the point. Government guarentees of debt remove all responsibility from the banks for carefully evaluating a loan application. More loans = more fees, so anyone who can fog a mirror is approved. If the banks really had to take the loss for a bad decision, there wouldn't be as much bad debt swirling around.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:54 | 1470142 Clueless Economist
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The only "clueless economists" are from the Austrian school of thought.


We Keynesians are all geniuses and Nobel Prize winners

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:57 | 1470166 SheepDog-One
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And its working so well that even the Keynesian overlords are saying 'Yep, we're *fail*'. Hey keep writting those NYT columns though, makes great parrot cage liner.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:58 | 1470178 augie
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beau'iful plumage...

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:04 | 1470214 66Sexy
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Mail every US taxpayer  (and taxpayers ONLY) a check for $25,000. That would stimulate everything, would inflate assets, corporate bottom lines, bank deposits, and consumer goods.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 13:17 | 1470839 TruthInSunshine
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Don't make it soooo complicated.

Everyone can just move in together.



This is not in jest: Real study by BLS:

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

First Quarter 2011

  • Consumer Expenditure Survey: Do two live as cheaply as one? Evidence from the Consumer Expenditure Survey (HTML) (PDF)
Tue, 07/19/2011 - 14:29 | 1471217 optimator
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Better yet, mail every taxpayer a mini printing press and eliminate the Fed!

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:06 | 1470230 Ahmeexnal
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How about just a one point plan?



Wed, 07/20/2011 - 16:21 | 1470622 JW n FL
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can we instead roll our fat asses off the sofa and fall onto the Criminal, Treasonous, Lobby Whores and just Sit on them?


we will lack popular support to be sure!


if there is to be any sort of heavy lifting and or sweat inducing work.. the majority will be abstaining and watching where's Casey or who's swatting Murdock. if it's Not on Cable.. then they are not interested!


once again.. rolling.. at a slow pace.. their fat asses off the sofa.. and landing on.. the Criminal, Treasonous, Lobby Whores and then just having to sit on top of them.. while still leaning against the sofa with an even better view of the T.V. therefore allowing the cable news info to just wash over them like a warm bath..


thats fine, but anything more strenuous than that? forget it! you are on your own!


exercise is for midnite the first of the month! when they are out of food!


But here's some good news..


If they only get up off their fat asses to chase food! then when the food stamps monies get tied up in the Forced Austerity of the Poor Nation (Wall Street already has Trillions sitting, they dont need any more money right now) we may well see some movement out of the 59% of Americans that receive some form of Government Assistance.. or what about the employees of the Government?


No Worries! everyone with a Gun still gets paid! they have to keep you restless sheep in order some how! LULZ!!

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:52 | 1470466 Sudden Debt
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Any bank which is insolvent at the end of a trading day will be closed and taken over by the FDIC the following day

yeah... that would make... the FDIC... THE BIGGEST BANK IN THE WORLD!!


Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:40 | 1470061 chunga
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Caligula style "capitalism" would never stand for this nonsense.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:53 | 1470131 chumbawamba
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It's a nice fantasy, at least.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:21 | 1470305 chunga
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We won't follow the path of Rome. The Praetorian Guard is much stronger now.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:14 | 1470590 chumbawamba
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Yeah, but this time around the plebes have firearms.

I am Chumbawamba.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:42 | 1470070 dick cheneys ghost
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You had me at hello............

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:43 | 1470684 GoinFawr
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Hahahaha! ++

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:43 | 1470075 unununium
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Help.  This is so complicated.

I saw on CNBC that marking to market is an evil invention of the Obama administration, meant to kill banks and spread socialism.

I thought more accuracy was always better.  But these media reports make me worry that banks might fail if they have to mark their assets to market.  And I think that's supposed to be bad for me somehow.  Something about 'armageddon'...

  --Confused in USA

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:50 | 1470122 Fred Hayek
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That's kind of odd because didn't FASB sign off to "mark to fantasy" in early 2009, the early days of the Obama administration?

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:42 | 1470078 pepperspray
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Let's see the Paul Ryan plan on this one.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:43 | 1470080 bigwavedave
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wont happen. there would be no more need to accelerate credit growth and no real reason to print. boring!

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:43 | 1470081 ElvisDog
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Too bad Charles Hugh Smith won't run for president.....

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 16:19 | 1471663 GoinFawr
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Too bad you didn't vote for Ralph Nader in '96, '00, '04, or '08; I don't see a single policy on that list that he wouldn't take action on tomorrow, if he were POTUS...

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:45 | 1470085 Jack Burton
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Interesting. I see a small problem with the ease of discharge of all mortgage and student loan debt via a bankruptcy. The availability of such loans would sink like a stone. Not saying that is all bad, but lenders would be strict in a sense few Americans alive today have ever experienced.

Pop goes what is left of the housing market!

Pop goes the higher education bubble!

Up goes unemployment by 5% minimum

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:46 | 1470102 SheepDog-One
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You mean people asking for a loan would have to put up collateral, and have to show the loan is very likely to be repaid?

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:12 | 1470578 Marc45
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Yes, no bank would normally loan money to a student.  Student loans are simply another social program.  Without them, the only students able to afford a good college would be scholarship grantees and fortunate sons (think GW Bush).  Student loans are not dischargeable through bankruptcy.  You can argue that college students should not get special treatment but I think it's a positive investment in society (unlike many other social programs).

Note: I would not have been able to afford the college I went to without student loans and now I run a business employing 50+ people and I pay a lot of taxes.  I think it works.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:26 | 1470629 Idiot Savant
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Student loans are simply another social program.  Without them, the only students able to afford a good college would be scholarship grantees and fortunate sons (think GW Bush).

I would argue that tuition rates wouldn't be as unreasonable if it weren't for student loans. Student loans are a scam to enslave young Americans before they even start working. End the loan programs and watch tuition rates fall.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 23:55 | 1472867 andyupnorth
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+1. Obvious reasonning is required for the brainwashed folk.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:30 | 1470632 Idiot Savant
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Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:31 | 1470642 Idiot Savant
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Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:49 | 1470714 earnulf
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Not So that people would not be able to afford a "good" college.   There are still a couple of "work your way through" colleges out there doing a bang-up job.   College of the Ozarks and Berea College come to mind and the local state colleges are expensive, but not completely out of reach, at least the one's that don't have a major football program.

I do agree that banks would be reluctant to loan for "student" loans, very difficult to guage future earnings based on school work.   But maybe it would also lower student levels and force colleges to trim their "offerings" to studies that actually produce effective students who can help the workforce.

The point is that we have to stop running up 100K debt before the person even enters the workforce.   Talk about a millstone around your neck for the rest of your life

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:58 | 1470763 ceilidh_trail
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GWB got decent grades in college. Algore and JohnKerry the ketchup man did not do so well. The Oboy? Who the hell knows- I bet not so good or he would have publicised them...

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 13:36 | 1470947 11b40
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You can chart the rise in college tuition's to the increase in the value and number of student loans.  'Education' costs have been far outstripping the rate of inflation for 20 years or more, while college campuses get evermore elaborate & extravagant.  Staffs have become bloated, along with salaries and benefits, while "value delivered" declines. 

I worked my way through college.  No loans, no debt.  It took me 8 years, counting the 2 I gave to Uncle Sam, but I did it.  Now, I personally know young people who have 80K plus in student loan debt with meager realistic chances of making that much a year.  They will be trying to pay off that debt & the carried interest for decades.....just another form of debt slavery with one exception.  The is the creme de la creme of debt slaves - well educated and good prospects for jobs that will allow them to service the debt load.  Bankers bonanza!

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 13:26 | 1471724 GoinFawr
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I notice no one here has mentioned anything about going Finland's or Germany's route on post secondary education. I am Jack's utter lack of surprise, seeing as their obvious successes blatantly contradict all of the narrow-minded Amerhetoric.

Do you lot ever think to look past your own screen doors?

As a rule, a decent education produces a net benefit for the society that provides it. IE. EROI is a positive number.


Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:49 | 1470120 kridkrid
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Good and Good.  By propping up housing and higher ed, working class stiffs are getting priced out (or are being forced into debt servitude to chase the farce called an American dream).  End all supports for everything.  Let rational(ish) people make rational(ish) decisions. 

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:13 | 1470265 centerline
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As if none of that is going to happen anyhow?

I do see great moral hazard though in any sort of categorized debt jubilee.  For any sort of real economy to function, it must honor hard work and prudent behavior over pure leverage and reckless behavior.  The mindset right now is too "fiat."


Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:34 | 1470652 MachoMan
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True...  my only question is, all things considered, can an elite group essentially ensure its status in practical perpetuity?  There will be a great many things that get sorted out in our deleveraging and the changes to come...  but, if there is a relatively unscathed portion of us that was also directly responsible for the calamity, then any legitimacy of the exercise is lost... 

I suspect that the environment will be more moral and functional in the future for most people...  but, being a relative measure, that's not saying much...

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:21 | 1470304 Raymond Reason
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@Jack.  Yes availibility of such loans would sink like a stone, debt would have market price other words, capitalism.

On the other side of the equation, getting rid of the FDIC (although the author didn't mention this), would cause depositors to evaluate the banks where they deposit their money.  In other words, capitalism. 

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:25 | 1470319 jerry_theking_lawler
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negative. doesn't the .gov back all student loan debt now....thanks Uncle S....

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:29 | 1470330 snakeboat
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That's no problem, that's the ONLY solution...   True GDP is at least 12% below what is currently reported.  The sooner we recognize this and get over it, the better for you, me and all our kiddos...

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 20:53 | 1472510 knowless
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and eventually higher education will be open to the adept at cheaper cost, instead of the inept at exorbitant..

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:49 | 1470090 SheepDog-One
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What, you mean peasantry should be even near the same playing field as the 400 elite families that hold 50% of the entire worlds wealth, and have actual rights and ability to discharge debt that THEY have due to the criminality of the elites? AND us criminal banksters would be charged and sent to a dungeon for our massive crimes??

Im shocked! Randolph, hand me another Perrier, Im feeling faint! Here ya go Mortimer...relax! We got our bunker built.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:46 | 1470107 Dr. Engali
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Want to fix the economy.

1) Enforce the laws and prosecute the criminals.

2) No bail outs period.

3) End the fed

4) Fire congress and the sitting administration.

5) Return to sound money



Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:58 | 1470171 traderjoe
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Without the end of private debt-money creation through fractional reserve banking and the privately-held Fed - nothing will be fixed. Why does a sovereign country borrow its own money at interest from private corporations?

I liked your list better than his.

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:31 | 1470341 Raymond Reason
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Why stop with fractional reserve banking?  Why not get rid of banks altogether?  It doesn't mean there wouldn't be credit.  The whole idea of banking is shit.  When you loan money, you require collateral.  When you loan money to the bank, you get nothing.  They take your money, and loan it with collateral.  There's the fleece.  A bank should broker your loan, and forward your collateral back to you.  If you don't have enough money to make a loan, well you hire the bank to lock it up until you do.  That would be real banking. 

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:00 | 1470186 chumbawamba
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"4) Fire congress and the sitting administration."

That's called Revolution.

In fact, I propose the Final Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America:

Amendment 29: This Constitution is hereby Expunged, and Open Revolt is declared.  All People who have taken an Oath to this Constitution are voided of any power, privilege, position or title therein granted or gained, and are to stand down or consent to becoming a casualty statistic.

I am Chumbawamba.

Wed, 07/20/2011 - 00:11 | 1472887 StychoKiller
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Amendment 29:  "Congress shall make NO Law abridging the freedom of Production and Trade."

Tue, 07/19/2011 - 13:00 | 1470769 ceilidh_trail
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Tue, 07/19/2011 - 10:48 | 1470112 Thisson
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Some of these points are not thought through very well.  For example, allowing people to discharge mortgages in bankruptcy is absurd.  These are secured debts, not unsecured debts.  Only unsecured debts are (and should be) dischargeable.  You want to discharge student loans in bankruptcy, that's fine, but don't mess with a creditor's right to collect against secured property because that undermines the capital structure of our economy AND it affects pricing (it would make mortgage loans much more expensive).


Tue, 07/19/2011 - 11:08 | 1470243 Woodyg
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Actually after the MERS fraud those loans aren't secured - not if the banks have to follow the rule of law like the Little People.

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