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Guest Post: You Want Small Business to Start Hiring? Here's What To Do

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Thu, 03/03/2011 - 13:58 | 1015571 jal
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FIRST find support from a majority of lawmakers.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:15 | 1015650 Herd Redirectio...
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Great work by CHS again.  He has done really well to point out some really effective fixes, while simultaneously telling us why these fixes aren't in place already.  Because the system is rigged against small businesses, thats why! 

Of course sound money is a fantastic starting point, but I would also like to bring the wealth disparity to Mr. Smith's attention.  While 1% own 90 of the assets its not going to matter how sound our money is, we will still have many of the same problems we currently have. 

If we are really worried about the NUMBER of people who are unemployed all we have to adjust is how much each person in the workforce works.  If everyone was working 4 days a week, well, then there is 25% more demand for employees, isn't there?  I know no one can get by on their current hours, let alone reduced hours, but this is strictly a solution to getting more bodies in the workforce.  If we are worried about how much WORK there is for people in the economy, we need to bring our manufacturing back from China.

As an added bonus to using sound silver and gold-backed money, Mexico will be a lot more prosperous than it currently is (currently an oil and drugs-based economy), which will reduce the migrant population.  Also, stopping the war on Drugs will remove 80% of the profit for the cartels, as they would then have to compete against everyone, and would no longer be able to charge a premium for goods they have smuggled.

I don't claim to have the solutions, but I do believe in trial and error. And the first step in trial and error is knowing when your trial has 'erred', and its time to TRY something new!  Its safe to say, this trial of fiat money/financial oligarchy has erred, and it is high time we dump it in favor of something different.

Check out the Capital Research Institute:


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:15 | 1015940 NotApplicable
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Funny, what you call a great work, I call a waste of effort.

Anyone who understand that a system is rigged, yet spouts off on how the rigger should act to fix the system, or better yet, expect the rigger to step aside fails at comprehending the "why" behind it all.

Rigger, please.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:00 | 1016353 Herd Redirectio...
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A great work*, is what I would call it, to be honest.

I agree with you that the system is rigged, and those who benefit are not interested in changing the system whatsoever.

But it is also important to be cognizant of our own complicity in the system.  It does us no good to simply blame it all on 'them'.  Yes, the Elite deserve a large share of the blame, because they have assembled the system into its current form, and kept people uneducated or atleast mis-educated, but there are still benefits from being introspective and self-critical, ie. accepting that we played a part (however small) in keeping the system going.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 22:13 | 1017249 rocker
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Demand !!!  The Elite have drained the sheeple to where they want them.  Even the Scum Bag from BAC said that there is no demand for loans from people who want to start a business. Because there is No Demand for products beyond what is already supplied by the present deleveraging of America. The elite actually prefer it this way. They do not want to stand in line at their favorite restaurant or vocation spot. In a way, you can call it crowd control for the elite.  They like it just the way it is right now. Business will hire when they have DEMAND for Product.  Until then, it is still a controlled recession.  Starving extra money and savings from the middle class with higher food and gas prices also accomplishes the same effect.  The power of the elite Central Bankers and Richie's to control their environment amazes me to this day.    

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:33 | 1015732 Panafrican Funk...
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All those steps could be reduced to one.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 13:59 | 1015576 bullandbearwise
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Manufacturing is surging, but no employment. Why? Because business processes everywhere have been automated by computers and we don't need people anymore.

Solution: Embrace Utopia and allow for a permanently-funded unemployed class. Are you ready for it?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:16 | 1015626 AN0NYM0US
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Because business processes everywhere have been automated by computers and we don't need people anymore.



Because business processes everywhere have been outsourced to Mumbai and we don't need American workers anymore.

e.g. Guidelines for planning on offshore outsourcing



even the hedgies outsource





Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:18 | 1015662 bullandbearwise
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Outsourcing is just a symptom of the bigger problem. We simply don't need that many workers anymore, everywhere.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:32 | 1015730 GoinFawr
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Hunh, so what is it you suggest 'owly'? 'Killing the poor' suit your elitist agenda?

Please correct me if you are just being ironic.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:58 | 1015863 bullandbearwise
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Not killing the poor and not being ironic.

Look, the avowed purpose of computers and automation is to make our lives easier. The natural extension of that is if everything is computerized and automated, work, as we know it, ends.

If we are to enjoy the fruits of technology we have to be big enough to understand a small cadre of highly specialized workers can oversee process infrastructure to the benefit of everyone else.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:20 | 1015958 NotApplicable
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There are an infinite amount of unmet human needs, and therefore, an infinite demand for human labor.

The "useless worker" problem occurs when the needs do not match up with the labor skills required to meet them.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:33 | 1016033 bullandbearwise
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Huh? Unmet humans needs met by machines doesn't create any demand for human labor except overseeing the machines. This is easily met by a small subset of humans leaving the rest to enjoy the fruits of the technological progress. Is there anyone who would rather not work if all their needs are met?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:37 | 1015750 Meme Iamfurst
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Over the last 6 years, every day, every hour, every second, there has been nothing but misleading and disinformation for everyone to chow down on.

Now you would think after all this time. we would have learned to take 'official news' and MSM pundit chatter with less than one grain of salt   Seems not, we don't learn, and "they" know it.

What intelligent businessman/woman is going to start any business in THIS environment?  I am not speaking of the garage tinkerer start up with the next I-whatever.  I am speaking of bread and butter businesses that will hire ...to do... God knows what.  Nope, ain't gona happen.  The small businessman is in the target site of every politician as the way out and starting tomorrow, the bill is in the mail.

Give it up folks!  If this bunch in DC, on Wall Street, etc wanted the coffers to refill with tax receipts, it WOULD HAVE HAPPENED already.

  Our fearless leader trots to California to met with billionaires who could start any business that so desired, and what happened...they sat on their hands, why? 

Look at the pathetic lot our great leader has herded together to form a think-tank on jobs...please... the one thing these fine men are thinking about is a half dozen bottles of 1982 Chateau Lafitte at $1,200 a bottle at lunch at the Jockey Club which you will be paying for. But to be thinking about  'jobs' for joe six pack, get real, avarage people are a pimple on their backsides.

There is Something else that is going on, and we haven't been able to see what it is, YET.  The big shots know how "we" feel.  Nothing we are witnessing is by accident.  This dog and pony show is buying time for something else.  Can you feel it too?

But to believe that DC or Wall Street is going to do anything to get businesses jump started is a pipe dream.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:45 | 1016511 A Nanny Moose
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People must build/maintain the computers, network gear, and networks over which those computers communicate. Power plants must be built, maintained and fueled to support all this infrastructure. I would argue that most of the computing power now ends up being used to comply with the regulatory Gordian Knot, and predicting the unpredictable, rather than actually producing things.

Is it really possible to create an AI supported world in which humans become irrelevant? What happens when they BSOD?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:06 | 1015587 Cognitive Dissonance
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Please note the question at hand is "what should be done," not "what can be done politically." Politically, everything I propose here is impossible.

Thank you Charles for pointing that out up front. The powers that be have no desire to "fix" these problems. None. Or at least fix them with regard to the plebs. It's all working out pretty good for the top 5% and that's all that counts at this point in the unwinding.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:24 | 1015676 alien-IQ
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The sooner we accept the fact that the US, contrary to popular propaganda, is not a free market democracy but rather a Fascist Kleptocratic Kakistocracy the sooner we'll cease to waste time on brainstorming solutions that will never come to pass.

This is not a "business cycle" problem nor is it a "monetary policy" problem. The real problem is that most Americans either fail to or refuse to see what by now should be obvious: This is not the country we thought it was nor is it run by whom we thought was running it.

The solution? : Accept their ways or fight to regain control of the country. Until this is handled...all else is mere conversation.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:10 | 1015913 Hacksaw
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Fri, 03/04/2011 - 01:14 | 1017647 TorchFire
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Damn straight +++

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:01 | 1015590 Sudden Debt
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Today I've heard something so funny :)


"The reason why businesses don't hire is because the can't find good people and stopped trying"!


I kid you not, that was all over the radio today after a survey done by the government.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:15 | 1015654 haskelslocal
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Today I've heard something so funny :)

 "The reason why businesses don't hire is because the can't find good people and stopped trying"!

 I kid you not, that was all over the radio today after a survey done by the government.


... so that means that unemployed are not unemployed if they've given up and stopped trying!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:29 | 1015716 Sudden Debt
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It means that small companies don't hire that much because they stopped trying to look for people because they can't find people.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:02 | 1015843 Capitalist10
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 "The reason why businesses don't hire is because the can't find good people and stopped trying"!

I own a business employing about 50 people and I agree 100% with that statement.  Obviously the survey respondants agree.  The vast majority of prospective employees we see

1) do not have reading, writing and math skills that used to be expected to graduate high school, though the prospective employee may have a college degree

2) consider showing up for work each day to be optional, depending on whether or not the employee feels like it

3) do not have anything resembling a work ethic

4) consider their main challenge at work to be how much time they can spend on facebook, twitter, texting, surfing the web, really anything but productive work.

We are also very cautious about hiring because, should you ever decide to fire one of these slackers, you have to be concerned that the only non-protected class left is Caucasian, US born, straight, Protestant men under 50 who never served in the military and do not have anything that could be considered a disability.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:13 | 1015935 Hacksaw
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Has it ever occured to you that you just might be hiring the wrong people.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:21 | 1015962 Capitalist10
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My comment applies to about 90% of the pool of prospective employees we see whenever we need to hire someone.  We try to hire from the remaining 10%, but that percentage seems to shrink each year.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:23 | 1015983 UGrev
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I agree, but there is also a flip side. I've seen job descriptions that require so many damn skills that just don't fit the salary offered. I'm sorry, but as an out of work web-developer (NOT DESIGNER), I keep finding "web developer" jobs that want you to know C# and be a fucking front end/photoshop guru at the same time... for 60-80k. Uhhh..no. That there is a 150-200k job DOE. Photoshop guru's could pull 70-80+ EASILY just for doing web designs. Then top it off with actually knowing CSS, HTML and the frameworks required for crossbrowser compatibility with your design and you're talking two completely different sets of skills which they want wrapped into one person.. THEN you tack on server side development. For 60-80k..  FUCK THAT SHIT. Tripple that number and we'll talk. 

I took a knock down to contractor from my last job because they wanted to pay me a base salary for 40 hours a week and require me to work 50-60 for 3-4 months out of the year. Personal restrictions didn't allow that so I politely told them that in no uncertain terms would I dilute my salary by ~25%. 

So employers need to stop with the "And other Misc tasks assigned" bullshit as well trying to find someone who is superhuman. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:21 | 1016220 AnAnonymous
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Welcome to a world of jobs scarcity.

Firms do not really require additional workforce but would gladly welcome an exceptional addition that could multitask all the small gaps that exist in a team, plus the main contribution, of course.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 18:09 | 1016590 UGrev
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I actually like contracting/freelance. I get in , I get the job done, I get paid, I go home and I get the benefit of experience a lot of different systems and designs. 

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:53 | 1016113 linrom
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What do you pay-$7hr! I hear this argument all the time and find out that most want their $7/hr employee to take an ownership interest, work overtime for free and be on call 24/7.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:01 | 1016135 Clampit
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You're not alone, my parents operate a similar size small business and I hear the exact same complaints. I've started to theorize as to why; not blame, just understand.

One concept I've concentrated on, along the lines of Matthew Crawford's writings, is the lack of job satisfaction feedback. People are more removed than ever from the tangible benefits of their work, such that it's difficult to find motivation beyond mere financial gain. As has been pointed out here:


This is a terrible motivator. Another corollary to insufficient motivation, especially on the financial side, is the current favoring of capital over labor. It's damn near worthless to actually do something as compared to owning the rights to do the same. I'm really starting to believe state protection of IP rights, where productive men must ask permission from unproductive men before producing, is closer to the root of our problems than most realize. I wish I had more time to elaborate here, but what I do want to caution on is the tendency to read the current labor pool work ethic as "the lazy next generation" without reflecting on the fact that people are a product of their environment. When all the rich and adored people in our society are borderline criminals, and almost never lay a hand on anything they "produce", it's tough to find motivation to get out of bed and be a part of it all.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 17:50 | 1016526 A Nanny Moose
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Kids today can't even count out change without the cash register telling them.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:02 | 1015595 DB Cooper
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Get out of the way! 



Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:42 | 1016063 chopper read
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that was well done, DB.  thanks for posting.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 16:57 | 1016342 DB Cooper
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Thanks Chopper - pass it on!

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 19:08 | 1016822 Don Smith
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Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:04 | 1015600 Fred Hayek
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Amen, Mr. Smith.

I'm going to forward this to my boss at the small business where I work.  I strongly suspect he agrees with all of it.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:05 | 1015604 AnAnonymous
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Problem with that story of fixing imbalances is that the US driven world system is living off imbalances and therefore people seek to increase imbalances rather than fixing them.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:05 | 1015607 Oh regional Indian
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Funny, he said it would never work and yet laid them out in detail.

Small business (as we know them now) will never thrive again. Business as we know it is never going back to the Halcyon day of pre Sep. 08.

Best plan is how do you raise a Phoenix?




Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:08 | 1015617 Cognitive Dissonance
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He said it would never work politically because it would never be implemented. It most certainly can work, but it would require accountability in the political class. And they march to a different set of drums.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:23 | 1015687 Oh regional Indian
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Ergo, non-starters.


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:33 | 1015735 Cognitive Dissonance
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All lies must be immediately refuted, all myths exposed.

ORI, your tone has changed over the last few months. Why so negative? Before you talked about spiritual growth, now you are much more negative. What's up?

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:45 | 1015801 Oh regional Indian
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Interesting you ask CD. Try to be a dispassionate observer and I see, on all accounts, human tendencies worsening, all around me. We are coming to a crescendo. 

And the more I get out, the more I see the terrible suffering in India, glazed over with "India Shining" slogans. Written in dust.

I suppose you are reading frustration.

But hey, they match the tone of Zh headlines nowadays, eh? ;-)


Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:54 | 1015615 Pee Wee
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I know for an absolute fact that small businesses (that are growing) cannot hire the next FTE because of Federal taxes at a rate of 1/10 -- higher if your state has state taxes in addition.

Treat small businesses like corporations and the problem is greatly simplified, but as of now small business pays big business' taxes on income - that is the systemic inequality and it is pervasive (so GE pays zero and gets a refund off the backs of small business owners).

The political tide of the present is total elimination of small businesses, and every single story on the contrary is an outright lie.  Try being a small business owner and you will be disgusted.

There is a war raging against small businesses under 20 employees - let the facts do the talking instead of hip-shot speculators.  The problem is government collusion with big business and taxes, taxes, taxes.

Benefitted FTE's double that rate (2/10 additional FTE's) with the racketeering syndicate known as health care.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:09 | 1015627 NOTW777
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doesnt sound like chris has actually run a small business

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:38 | 1015761 topcallingtroll
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I would tend to agree.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:41 | 1015771 NOTW777
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"2. Raise the cost of borrowing money and incentivize capital formation. If the Million-Price Project pegs inflation at 3%, then savings and checking accounts should pay 7%--a 4% real return--and it should cost 10% to borrow money."

small business already pays through the nose for borrowing

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:48 | 1015816 TonyV
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+1. The author probably never had a business where he had to deal with the lenders.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 15:10 | 1015920 flattrader
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No joke.  So much of this is rank amatuer speculation.

He misses a fundamental problem upfront...

Capitialization (first) and expansion (second) and refinancing/consolidation (third) loans are extremely difficult to get even if SBA guaranteed...let alone dealing with an interest rate at freakin' 10%.

I did SBA lending for a while for a non-bank lender pre-2008.  The majority of applicants had been turned down by large and small community banks.  I had clients that were fully collateralized, credit worthy etc...and STILL had to scream at underwriting to get them funded.  Even at 4.00+ over prime the "home office" was loath to lend.

It was by far the most frustrating experience of my life.

The work-out end if the loan went bad was always the main consideration...even with the guarantee.

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:47 | 1015805 NOTW777
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"Everyone pays cash for all healthcare."  right. this is an advantage for small businesses????

Thu, 03/03/2011 - 14:10 | 1015632 lynnybee
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30 years of malinvestments .......... that is a tall order & will require we get rid of our financial oligarchs ........ remember when our banks were mostly small locals ?   & we actually earned interest on our savings accounts ? ....... i'd love to go back to the way it was before NIXON .    life sure would be simpler.    our lives were small & local, community based.   enjoy your fiat money & credit while you can, it's over.

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